>>27051799>Do women really not know that men get this shit too?
Some women definitely don't even think about it.
I do try to be mindful of the fact that it happens, but I wouldn't assume it happens in the same way for men as women. I tend to feel like there's a collective understanding between women of the specific way in which it happens to us/how it lands with us, shared experiences like "oh, did your school also have a creep who hung out waiting to watch the girls as you walked home? How old were you when cars started honking at you?" etc. Where not only the experience is standard, but our reaction to it is informed by the fact that we're women (not that it makes it better or worse, just that the nature/nurture aspects of our sex will inform our reaction).
It's sort of like growing up watching pokemon vs digimon, like they're basically the same thing and I wouldn't deny that a digimon fan experienced a dogfighting style anime fandom growing up, but I can't 100% say I relate to or share their experience.
Personally, I'd love it if men piped up more and shared their experiences in these conversations, because I don't exactly want to just ask something like that directly lol. But obviously there are a lot of roadblocks for men being comfortable to do that, including my own inability to invite them to share.
It's also pretty standard for various groups to not understand the other's experience, because they're just not exposed to it.
All that said, the most egregious "lol men don't get abused" shit I ever hear is from other men, and I just have no fucking idea what to even say to that shit. Grown men hearing a story of eg a 13 year old boy being raped by a female and unashamedly saying "sounds like the luckiest boy in the world" and even expressing shame in him if it sounds like he's complaining. Disgusting.