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Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 22:07:19 2015 No.2852604 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2852749 >>2852773 >>2852779

When will flash and /f/ be kill?

>everyone hates flash
>only used to ad in 99%
>video players alternatives are now mainstream
>mobile will outnumber PC
>mobile don't play swf

http://www.zdnet.com/article/flash-is-dying-here-is-how-to-kill-it/

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:16:56 No.2852616 Report

Quoted By: >>2852618 >>2852692 >>2852783

It took about a decade before flash was a thing on the internet.

It took another decade to reach the peak of its development and usage.

And this decade, we've seen the development of its eventual successor: HTML5 and JavaScript. We're about half of the way through the decade, so I suspect flash will be almost completely irrelevant by 2020.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:20:10 No.2852618 Report

Quoted By: >>2852621 >>2852645

>>2852616
>irrelevant by 2020
So will you

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:25:18 No.2852621 Report

Quoted By: >>2852680

>>2852618
Not that anon your replying to but uh
>Implying I'm not irrelevant right now

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:50:42 No.2852645 Report

Quoted By: >>2852652

>>2852618
>more edge than Nippon samurai sword

Billy Mays Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:55:37 No.2852652 Report

Quoted By: >>2852655 >>2852656 >>2852662

>>2852645
Well, a typical samurai katana only have an edge. No more, no less

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:58:12 No.2852655 Report

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>>2852652
aren't you a cheeky little faggot

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 22:58:44 No.2852656 Report

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>>2852652
but its the edgiest edge is what hes saying.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:02:14 No.2852661 Report

Quoted By: >>2852665 >>2852670 >>2852674

/f/ Is basically /youtube/ by now, won't be long before /f/ is kill and /youtube/ becomes a board.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:04:06 No.2852662 Report

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>>2852652

But the edge is a curved along the length of the sword, which has infinite points with implies they have exceeded infinite edge.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:05:14 No.2852664 Report

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Part of me feels like /f/ could evolve and begin supporting whatever the direct successor to flash may be.

Another part of me feels like there are like ~10 members on /f/ and that no one is going to give enough shits to make a large-scale change.

Billy Mays Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:05:16 No.2852665 Report

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>>2852661
Are you a prophet? Because stahp

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:09:46 No.2852670 Report

Quoted By: >>2852681 >>2852697 >>2852752

>>2852661

In this moment, 0 out of 30 flashes in this board are interactive or vectorized.

So I got your point. They should create a /webm/ board and dump /f/ already.

Squares are my friends Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:11:25 No.2852674 Report

Quoted By: >>2852686

>>2852661
/wsg/ has sound webms and exists mostly of webm threads.
Unfortunately people here do not seem to know or do not seem to care and still post youtube rips.

I do not go to youtube or /wsg/ myself so I do not usually mind this sort of content but there is a limit.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:17:49 No.2852680 Report

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>>2852621
>mfw I became irrelevant like 7 years ago and now I'm seeing all my peers become relevant

Such a shitty feeling.

Billy Mays Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:18:09 No.2852681 Report

Quoted By: >>2852734

>>2852670
Someone post a new Nimin game a few hours ago. Its pretty interactive. One hand clicking the mouse and the other fap fap fap. That proves that we still need this subreddit

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:20:43 No.2852686 Report

Quoted By: >>2852696 >>2852710

>>2852674

I think part of it is wsg is also slower than /f/ due to the additional volume of threads and content and so its just more gratifying for people to post their shit here. It probably won't change.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:25:17 No.2852692 Report

Quoted By: >>2852698 >>2852700

>>2852616
so, does that mean /f/ will be replaced by /html5/?
I would be sort of okay with that, even though I don't know how to develop for it at all.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:25:55 No.2852696 Report

Quoted By: >>2852700

>>2852686

Maybe if moot wasn't a dumb cuckold and allowed sound since the beginning(you still have to change a option to allow sound), this wouldn't have happened.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:26:33 No.2852697 Report

Quoted By: >>2852699 >>2852703 >>2852708

>>2852670
but then where will we post illegally stolen Zone-archive flashes?

Billy Mays Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:27:19 No.2852698 Report

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>>2852692
Adobe will not happy if that happen. Thats why the admins keep /f/ open. Its business thing, you wont understand

Billy Mays Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:28:44 No.2852699 Report

Quoted By: >>2852752

>>2852697
Rule34. They support webm, gif and swf

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:30:02 No.2852700 Report

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>>2852692

Hard to say. I'm not sure how you'd submit anything in html5 to the site in a reasonable fashion. Probably something packaged in a zip file. It probably won't happen.

>>2852696

Agreed.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:30:02 No.2852701 Report

Quoted By: >>2852747 >>2852755

Except HTML5 is slow as shit and can barely keep up with the things flash can do. It's hard to develop for HTML5, and no amount of javascript libraries can hold up to the power of a dedicated editing platform.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:31:14 No.2852703 Report

Quoted By: >>2852713 >>2852752

>>2852697
Zone will probably eventually start releasing his content as video, like JibJab, Weebl and all of the other major animators did.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:34:47 No.2852708 Report

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>>2852697
Where and how do you stole the original Zone vids?

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:35:01 No.2852710 Report

Quoted By: >>2852711

>>2852686

I think it's the filesize limit. You can't fit anything in 4 MB.

Plus lack of sound. Blame moot/admin and his dumb faggotry of "webms are gifs, imageboards are for images".

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:36:31 No.2852711 Report

Quoted By: >>2852714

>>2852710
/wsg/ had sound webms for half a year now

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:38:00 No.2852713 Report

Quoted By: >>2852723

>>2852703
>games
>webm

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:38:27 No.2852714 Report

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>>2852711
"Lack of sound" and "no sound at all" are two vastly different terms.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:44:15 No.2852723 Report

Quoted By: >>2852724 >>2852735

>>2852713
>game
>press F to forward

Press P to potato Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:46:01 No.2852724 Report

Quoted By: >>2852727

>>2852723
>press F
The game ends

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:48:24 No.2852727 Report

Quoted By: >>2852736

>>2852724
>didn't get the joke

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:57:34 No.2852734 Report

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>>2852681
>we still need this subreddit
your b8 is bad and you should feel bad.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:57:47 No.2852735 Report

Quoted By: >>2852743

>>2852723
I'm not talking about just zone games, but flash games in general.

Anonymous Tue 21 Jul 2015 23:57:54 No.2852736 Report

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>>2852727
your face is a joke

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:14:24 No.2852743 Report

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>>2852735
>imblying people do games anymore
>click to forward is gameplay

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:21:57 No.2852747 Report

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>>2852701
Fucking THIS.
Flash may be proprietary, but fuck JavaScript and anyone who uses it even more.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:26:58 No.2852749 Report

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>>2852604
That website hurts my brain what the fuck am I reading

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:28:11 No.2852752 Report

Quoted By: >>2852753 >>2852754 >>2852755

Fuck HTML5.
I love it to death, but it just doesn't have the same functionality as Flash.
There's no way you're gonna tell me that something like JSKs stuff is gonna be able to work on that platform.
Can you even loop in HTML5? I'm sure you can, but can you?

>>2852703
Have you even seen any of Zone's shit?

>>2852699
> Rule34
are you even trying

>>2852670
> /wsg/ isn't a de-facto /webm/ board

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:30:23 No.2852753 Report

Quoted By: >>2852772

>>2852752
>Can you even loop in HTML5? I'm sure you can, but can you?
while (1) { }

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:31:00 No.2852754 Report

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>>2852752
I don't think html5 gapless playback is a thing
Unless you use mediasrouce, maybe.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:31:14 No.2852755 Report

Quoted By: >>2852756 >>2852763

>>2852701
>>2852752
>implying
http://www.cross-code.com/en/start

Entirely on HTML5.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:34:11 No.2852756 Report

Quoted By: >>2852767

>>2852755
And how much effort do you think it took to make something like that in comparison to flash?

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:40:11 No.2852763 Report

Quoted By: >>2852768

>>2852755
> can't even right-click
> can't even resize it to look for sauce
I'm not wrong with thinking the content in the middle is all there is, right?
Can you even effective vector graphics in HTML5?

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:45:18 No.2852767 Report

Quoted By: >>2852776 >>2852781

>>2852756

Less.
Flash is not made for games, savestate is stored randomly, hard to import bmp or anything at all, hard to do visual effects other than vector graphics under vector graphics, audio issues.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:45:27 No.2852768 Report

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HTML/javascript will never be safe until a good browser-side sandbox is made to run these kinds of "apps".
Enjoy letting anyone read your cookies if you think otherwise.

>>2852763
You can override the context menu with javascript, like youtube does it.

You can have either a sprite based canvas, or a dynamically generated svg.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:47:42 No.2852772 Report

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>>2852753
kek

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:48:19 No.2852773 Report

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>>2852604
I really like flash, when I was younger, browsing the internet everything cool was flash and now /f/ takes me to a happy place, I don't want it to go

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:51:57 No.2852776 Report

Quoted By: >>2852785 >>2852796

>>2852767
Flash is made for games among other things.
Savestates can be stored however you like.
It's not difficult to import anything.
There are many libraries that include or revolve around bitmap effects.
The only audio issues I know of is the 8ms gap at the beginning of mp3's that makes seamless looping a hassle, but that isn't flash's fautl.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:53:50 No.2852779 Report

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>>2852604
how else will I play porn games then?

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:56:39 No.2852781 Report

Quoted By: >>2852785

>>2852767
> Flash is not made for games,
Then why are whole websites dedicated to Flash games?
> savestate is stored randomly,
You kidding? For me, all my saves are automatically saved in ~/.macromedia/Flash_Player/ on Xubuntu.
> hard to import bmp or anything at all,
What?
> hard to do visual effects other than vector graphics under vector graphics,
No.
> audio issues.
Use a fucking lossless format instead of shitty .mp3s and maybe you'll get good results.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:58:48 No.2852782 Report

Quoted By: >>2852796

This subject is really sad to me because I've just started to make flashes within the last couple months, and I feel like I've finally found my internet calling. I'm getting better at it and I'm learning and I'm having so much fun. I feel like a painter who is just starting out but in a few years they're going to stop making canvasses and paints. I really should have started this ten years ago. When this does happen I hope I can make a smooth transition to whatever medium replaces it (HTML5 I guess).

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:59:00 No.2852783 Report

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>>2852616
>HTML5
yeah I don't get that, I looked up HTML5 games and they were completely not interactive, they basically came down to "type stuff and the "game" will parse whether or not it's right"
not like real interactive flash games
why can't HTML5 do what flash games can? if it can't then it can't really replace flash

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 00:59:31 No.2852785 Report

Quoted By: >>2852791 >>2852796

>>2852781
Well to normies, having their save files being placed in a temp folder and having all your progress erased just by clearing your browser cache is pretty annoying, so that's probably what he means about random saves.
But like I said here >>2852776 you can easily save data wherever you want in a proper desktop flash game that isn't reliant on a browser plugin.

Also even if you import lossless wav or ogg, flash still exports all audio as mp3, just fyi.

source: I'm a dev

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 01:03:20 No.2852791 Report

Quoted By: >>2852792

>>2852785
>flash still exports all audio as mp3
I bet it always exports it as 64kbps too.
http://a.uguu.se/eytoov.png

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 01:04:34 No.2852792 Report

Quoted By: >>2852798 >>2852800

>>2852791
160kbps is the max, as you can see in your own screenshot.
RAW is close to lossless but I have no idea what codec that uses.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 01:05:46 No.2852796 Report

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>>2852785
> Also even if you import lossless wav or ogg, flash still exports all audio as mp3, just fyi.
Yeah, but what I meant was what you were saying in >>2852776 about the audio issues about the seamless looping.

>>2852782
I feel ya.

I just don't think HTML5 is the way to go.
It still relies on JavaScript in order to have the same functionality as Flash.
If something had the same functionality as Flash, was audited, and was free as in freedom, then I think I'd get behind it.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 01:06:54 No.2852798 Report

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>>2852792
I thought RAW was for pictures and shit.

Anonymous Wed 22 Jul 2015 01:08:43 No.2852800 Report

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>>2852792
I thought ADPCM was lossless, but it seems it reduces the quality.
RAW on the other hand is uncompressed.

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