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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 10:18:23 2016 No.49901750 View View Reply Original Report

Find a flaw.

You can't.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:19:23 No.49901757 Report

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>>49901750
Sponsons, for one. I could go on.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:23:37 No.49901784 Report

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>>49901757
>Sponsons, for one. I could go on.
Oh, Do.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:29:18 No.49901839 Report

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>>49901750
Lack of properly sloping side armour to aid with deflections, far too tall, etc etc

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:33:52 No.49901878 Report

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>>49901750
I'm not inside of it.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:36:43 No.49901896 Report

Quoted By: >>49902399 >>49902683

>>49901750
Hitting people with your sword will be needlessly difficult when riding this tank.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:37:14 No.49901901 Report

Quoted By: >>49902044

>>49901750
>Find a flaw.

Cant carry troops.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:38:31 No.49901911 Report

Quoted By: >>49902288 >>49902677

Turret seems really small for the gun, can't have a lot of gun depression if it works like a standard cannon on tanks do.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:43:34 No.49901942 Report

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That's one half assed attempt at camo.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:47:31 No.49901965 Report

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>>49901750
That feeling when your the only person here who is thinking rule wise.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 10:57:40 No.49902044 Report

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>>49901901
>OP image has troops riding on top
2/10 made me reply

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:15:47 No.49902162 Report

Quoted By: >>49903273

>>49901750
It's the second-worst Macharius variant - sure, the Vanquisher cannons are neat, but the Omega and Vulcan are much better.

Other chassis-sharing vehicles are better: the Gorgon transports a fuckload, the Crassus is a well-armoured party bus and the Dominus is a neat triple bombard. The Preator isn't as cool (unlimited ammo though), so I guess it can make a case for only being the 3rd worst vehicle on the chassis

Then there's all the Baneblade variants, which are all better than it, but those are rarer (in fluff anyway)

The other smaller imperial superheavy chassis is worse, at least in the 41st millennium (the ones in the SM legions were cool though), so it has that going for it, though aesthetic choices are subjective - the Malc is a lot more love it or hate it.
Again though, a lot of the variants are cooler and better, especially if you include the Dracosan in those

Overall 5/10, it does the job but there's a lot fo better and cooler stuff in the imperial arsenal of superheavies.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:36:49 No.49902288 Report

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>>49901911
It literally can't aim down in the slightest

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:36:50 No.49902289 Report

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Can't survive gauss fire.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:46:58 No.49902332 Report

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>>49901750
Doesn't have padded seats for the troops

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:47:03 No.49902334 Report

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>>49901750
It's not Stormhammer.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:48:48 No.49902345 Report

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>>49902334
>When it's hard to differenciate between humans and green skins

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:53:09 No.49902365 Report

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>>49902345
When you want to impress the greenskins you better take enough dakka with you.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:53:17 No.49902368 Report

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>>49901750
Oi! Tankhammer thread?
Pfff, have you no churches? You need more basilicae.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:54:21 No.49902375 Report

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>>49902345
DIGGANOBZ!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:54:52 No.49902381 Report

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>>49901839
>far too tall
I wouldn't say 'far', knock the spacekrauts and the searchlight off the turret and it's built like a Tiger. as usual GW have stuck the turret in the wrong place but that's their style.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:57:28 No.49902399 Report

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>>49901896
You just have to ride the canon!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:59:24 No.49902411 Report

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>>49902334
You just glued a bucket of turrets together and painted them didn't you?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 11:59:42 No.49902417 Report

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>>49901750
not enuff dakka

>>49902334
now dat's some propa dakka

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:03:36 No.49902443 Report

Quoted By: >>49902692 >>49902724 >>49909064

>>49902411
You don't remember ye olde Stormhammer, from before FW released the new HH model that makes more sense?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:41:41 No.49902677 Report

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>>49902044
KEK
>>49901911
Its like the VK 45.02 B Ausf.B
Rear mounted turret with no depression.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:43:15 No.49902683 Report

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>>49901896
you gonna need a bigger sword

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:44:38 No.49902692 Report

Quoted By: >>49902722 >>49906089 >>49909064

>>49902443
Classic Stormhammer is superior tbqh

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:48:58 No.49902722 Report

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>>49902692
Never said it wasn't, only that it makes more sense by not having to raise the barrels in order to turn the turret to the other side. Or did both turrets had different enough elevation to be able to aim at both sides each?
>Top turret high fives bottom turret by clanking the barrels

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 12:49:10 No.49902724 Report

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>>49902443
> Nonstop screaming over the vox because no matter what way the driver goes hes putting someone out of a firing arch...

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:05:47 No.49902849 Report

Quoted By: >>49905713 >>49909064

>>49902724
I feel the Stormhammer is so big (is it still cathedral sized?) and has so much crew that it operates more like a (land)battleship rather than as a tank
>Helmsman, set a direct course to our destination. Full speed, ramming of oportunity targets sanctioned.
>Aye!
>Gunners, asign primary targets by threat level, then secondary targets by proximity
>Aye
>Aye
>Roger that
>C o m p l y i n g
>Yessir
>Sí señor
>Aye
>Aye M'lord
>Main turrets, concentrate fire forwards
>Roger that
>Aye sir
>Open a vox channel to those bastards. I want them to piss in fear and concentrate our fire on us
> C o m p l y i n g
>Do they really piss in fear, sir?
>That's not the first time I somebody asks me that question. Just ask the assault brigade when this is over and see for yerself. Now, I hope you alr-
>Already compiled sir, including the fuel requirements
> C h a n e l . o p e n

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:29:54 No.49903083 Report

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>>49901750
>Find a flaw.
Warhammer 40k.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:44:03 No.49903210 Report

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It is glorious Poland artillary and design cannot be bested. Designed to accommodate squatting inside or on top of.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 13:52:11 No.49903273 Report

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>>49902162
>vulcan can't engage heavy armor
>omega's 'gets hot' results strip up to 3 HP
>dominus has no model
>gorgon is open topped and troops inside can't fire out of it
>crassus isn't an assault transport
>Vanquisher can effectively engage any ground target and gets twin linking just because
>third worst macharius
>third worst
>worst

Well, you made me reply. Well done.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:39:34 No.49903644 Report

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>>49901750
Cannon too far back, you'll have an issue whenever foes can strike at your front half without exposing themselves to your turret.

You're a huge target, this issue will come up often

On this matter: Front treads should have armoured cowling starting at the most forward point, you're exposing a lot of tread in a way that doesn't help you move, but makes you very vulnerable to mobility kills from the front.

Which as discussed above: Front can't make up for a lack of defense with offense, because it has no weapon mounts to the front-left or front-right.

You're probably a bit heavy for bridges and roads too, here's to hoping you packed a snorkel

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 14:50:09 No.49903748 Report

Quoted By: >>49909064 >>49916829

>>49902368
Tankhammer brother!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:36:44 No.49904253 Report

Quoted By: >>49904396

>>49901750
I love the Macharius. I wish they were more common than Baneblades on the table.

I'm a fan of the Malcador, too. It's a nice little tank that gets people around "omg Forgeworld" by going "hold up sunshine - it's a slightly bigger Leman Russ with no special titan weapon fuckery that is a reasonable Lord of War choice for small games".

Then you break out a Valdor and laugh.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:36:55 No.49904255 Report

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>>49902345
To be fair, this isn't the official model. It's a scratch-built one.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:40:52 No.49904295 Report

Quoted By: >>49904371

>>49901839
To be fair, sloped armour is largely irrelevant in the age of APFSDS LRP, or in this case, laser guns.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:45:42 No.49904344 Report

Quoted By: >>49907862

>>49901757
>sponsons

They existed IRL for the same reason 40k tanks have them. You will notice things like the LR Vanquisher which fight in a more modern style don't have them usually.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:47:32 No.49904371 Report

Quoted By: >>49904429 >>49906169

>>49904295
Slopes would still help against directed energy, it increases effective thickness.

Why he is complaining about the side not being sloped I don't know, most tanks are flat sided.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:49:55 No.49904393 Report

Quoted By: >>49905211 >>49905498

>>49901750
>Find a flaw.

krieg.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:50:30 No.49904396 Report

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>>49904253
>a Valdor
Chem Infernus is also fun

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 15:53:26 No.49904429 Report

Quoted By: >>49918138

>>49904371
>most tanks are flat sided.

And thanks to the threads and skits, they effectively have spaced armour on them, since shots hitting the sides will have to go through the skirt and the space for the wheels before even reaching the hull itself. And since hulls are low enough and tracks high enough, there's not much hull sticking above this space, so everything's protected there.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:09:02 No.49905211 Report

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>>49904393
The only flaw is a Krieg version of this reaction image not existing.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:25:01 No.49905359 Report

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>>49901750
There could be more armor on the front.

Otherwise 10/10 design of the machine god, no flaw.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 17:39:46 No.49905498 Report

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>>49904393
>Find a flaw in this post
shit taste

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:01:40 No.49905701 Report

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>>49903083
Get out of here /swg/, I just closed you.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:02:45 No.49905713 Report

Quoted By: >>49905780

>>49902849
>>49902849
Capped for posterity

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:03:01 No.49905717 Report

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>>49901750
Polish flag.

What do I win?

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:07:54 No.49905768 Report

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>>49901750
No turret linked stubber? Didn't someone write a book about how this was why the Germans lost the war?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:09:10 No.49905780 Report

Quoted By: >>49905824 >>49907837

>>49905768
How come?
>>49905713
Gee t(h)anks

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:09:15 No.49905782 Report

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>>49905768
>turret linked stubber
You mean co-axial?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:12:52 No.49905824 Report

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>>49905780
No problem anon. Anytime anyone posts a Stormhammer I'll respond.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:13:16 No.49905832 Report

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>>49905717
A couple million peaceful moslem refugees.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:17:35 No.49905880 Report

Quoted By: >>49905919 >>49906046

>>49905832
The funny part is, Poland actually brought some in, like two large families. One tried to jump border to German and the other went back home because "It's actually not so bad there".

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:21:28 No.49905919 Report

Quoted By: >>49906046

>>49905880
Don't know how much that says about Poland.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:32:58 No.49906036 Report

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:33:43 No.49906046 Report

Quoted By: >>49906068 >>49908006

>>49905880
Start shit get hit.
>>49905919
That they don't tolerate bullshit.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:35:16 No.49906068 Report

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>>49906046
More like people would rather go to the Middle East than stay in Poland.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:36:41 No.49906089 Report

Quoted By: >>49906181 >>49906396 >>49908148 >>49908353 >>49910138

>>49902334
>>49902692
>turrets impeding movement of main guns
>at some angles the tank can fire upon itself
>movement of some turrets can injure people emerging from a hatch
>probably needs a dozen crew just to aim all the guns
>looks like it's recently driven through deep mud

An ork would see this vehicle and not scoff at you.

You could probably disguise it as an ork vehicle as part of a surprise attack, to get it in range of high-value targets without much suspicion. Although that does carry a real risk of orks looting it and somehow making it even more orky.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:41:34 No.49906150 Report

Quoted By: >>49906216 >>49907968

>>49906068
Or that there's enough people in Poland that don't want border hopping migrants to become a trend in their country.
>basing your opinion of poland from one unsourced post on 4chin
Also sharia-lovers aren't people.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:43:12 No.49906169 Report

Quoted By: >>49906247 >>49921562

>>49901750
>>49904371
No way this thing could move with weight directly in the treads like that. Even with massive engine power, the friction would be so great that the treads would snap instantly.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:44:17 No.49906181 Report

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>>49906089
>turrets impeding movement of main guns
>at some angles the tank can fire upon itself
>movement of some turrets can injure people emerging from a hatch

Which all features you can find in real life military things.

>probably needs a dozen crew just to aim all the guns

At least early Baneblades (and surely their variants) had remote operated or automated turrets.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:46:38 No.49906216 Report

Quoted By: >>49906555

>>49906150
Found the polefag.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:48:38 No.49906247 Report

Quoted By: >>49906354 >>49907630

>>49906169
You are aware that pic related exists right?

40k's mega-tanks aren't practical at all, but they could work - only the most enormous things like Leviathans and Capitol Imperialis really fall into the "couldn't work" category, and they're big enough to have all sorts of weird shit

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:52:43 No.49906305 Report

Quoted By: >>49915835

Sorry to be unrelated, but why everybody dislikes Poles? Yes, I'm not from Europe.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:56:22 No.49906354 Report

Quoted By: >>49906544 >>49907546 >>49918148

>>49906247
That doesn't really go cross country, it just moves on paved surfaces.

But in all fairness, the Macharius and Baneblade really aren't that big to begin with.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 18:58:47 No.49906396 Report

Quoted By: >>49908197

>>49906089
>>at some angles the tank can fire upon itself
HERESY CAN APPEAR WHERE YOU DON'T EXPECT IT.
Here, have FW's Stormhammer broadside.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:06:55 No.49906527 Report

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Its more practical than this one

>>49905146

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:07:55 No.49906544 Report

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>>49906354
True, but it's got a huge block on top - as you say though, the Macharius, Malcador and Baneblade chassis aren't that big

I was just showing that it wouldn't snap the treads even with today's tech

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:08:52 No.49906555 Report

Quoted By: >>49907626

>>49906216
Found the swede.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:26:32 No.49906758 Report

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>>49906036
tacticute

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 19:53:38 No.49907075 Report

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:06:25 No.49907262 Report

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:14:44 No.49907372 Report

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>>49907262
I know it's not a tractor, but the dozer blade just screams Tractor in my mind
>>49907344
Brother!

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:19:54 No.49907437 Report

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>mfw this thread

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:20:57 No.49907450 Report

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This is still one of my favorite russ conversions.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:27:01 No.49907521 Report

Quoted By: >>49909064

>We have the enemy on our sights, commander
>WHO SAID THAT?!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:29:14 No.49907546 Report

Quoted By: >>49907681 >>49907856

>>49906354
Its not supposed to go cross country dipshit.
In case you didnt realize the filename thats a NASA platform for launching space shuttles, it has no ability to turn, no shocks, and is so incredibly heavy that it would be simply unable to drive on unpaved, unreinforced, and oversaturated Florida soil.
Also consider the fact that its 40k and undead robot space egypt is a thing.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:34:50 No.49907626 Report

Quoted By: >>49907735

>>49906555
>knows poland is a shitty country
>must be a swede

Sad truth, my friend, is that EVERYONE knows Poland is a shitty country, even 3rd world terrorists.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:35:12 No.49907630 Report

Quoted By: >>49907856 >>49918148

>>49906247
Are you aware that that NASA launch vehicle can only stick to very flat, heavily reinforced runways? I shudder to think what it would be like at crossing a ploughed field, any sort of slope, a river or ruined city landscape.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:38:46 No.49907668 Report

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:39:50 No.49907681 Report

Quoted By: >>49907856

>>49907546
>Its not supposed to go cross country dipshit.

You don't say, retard?

In case you didn't realize, anon posted it in response to a post talking about how Imperial tanks wouldn't be physically possible, because they're so big and would just fall apart under their own weight. And my point was that while it's true that the NASA crawler carries all that weight, it's also designed to move on even paved surfaces at low speeds, while Imperial tanks need to go through all sorts of terrains a much faster speeds, and something like a Maus, T-35, or T28 would make a better comparison.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:42:13 No.49907722 Report

Quoted By: >>49907856

I'm just going to leave this here.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:42:42 No.49907731 Report

Quoted By: >>49907885 >>49908230 >>49908305

>>49901750
NOT IN THE 30k MILITIA BOOK

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:43:17 No.49907735 Report

Quoted By: >>49908212 >>49915029

>>49907626
Sweden

Yes

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:47:20 No.49907780 Report

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>>49901839
>deflections
>In any armoured warfare after 1950
With the advent of APDS, HEAT, and later APFSDS sloping for the purposes of deflection became pointless because the shots impact the vehicle at extremely high velocities and as a result effectively dig into the armour as they penetrate. It is still possible but you need an angle like 85-89 degrees from the vertical to actually pull it off. The fact that modern munitions "dig into" armour eventually led to the concept of counter-sloping which is pretty much just actively unsloped armour so that the penetrators increase the effective thickness of the armour they hit due to the fact that they "dig into" the armour.

tl;dr Trap shots and sloping in modern tanks is an overrrated concept, unless you are using extreme angling (like the upper frontal glacis of the Abrams, Leopard 2, or Challenger 2) angling doesn't matter too much really.

Granted technically speaking the Macharius is still a shitty tank due to its suspension system, the number of easy to hit hatches an periscopes on the front, dual main guns, and sponsons. Still, looks bitching and probably my favourite tank in 40k, matches the aesthetic of the Imperial Guard well without being extremely chunky like the Russ.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:49:47 No.49907808 Report

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>>49902334
Commander: Hey Carl crawl up in that pintlemounted heavy stubber!
Carl: no, I would be exposed.
Commander: but we need you Carl.
Carl: why? what am I suppose to shoot at? we've got 8 fucking twinlinked heavybolters tearing up the enemies!
Commander: Do it or I will call the commissar.
Carl: Fine!

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:52:18 No.49907837 Report

Quoted By: >>49907865 >>49908103

>>49905780
I think one of the main German battle tanks didn't have a turret (co-Axial) linked machine gun. This allowed the Russian infantry to swarm it in the forests and slap sticky bombs all over it.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:53:48 No.49907856 Report

Quoted By: >>49907888

>>49907722
Indeed.

>>49907681
>>49907630
>>49907546
My only point was that it wouldn't snap its own treads under its own weight - not that the NASA crawler can go off-road, not that it's a fast or practical machine, because it's neither of those things, just that we have a machine that exists today that's many, many times heavier than the Macharius and can move under its own power without breaking itself.

The sinking thing gives a good reason for 40k tanks lengths, at least, why they go further out than the bulk of the hull (they're likely still too small, but still)

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:54:25 No.49907862 Report

Quoted By: >>49907923 >>49908049 >>49908672 >>49914310

>>49904344
>They existed IRL for the same reason 40k tanks have them
Because they didn't come to the conclusion that it's a retarded-ass design that adds extra unnecessary crewmen to the tank?

It wasn't used on anything but WW1 tanks (the Mk IVs and the 7TV), so eh.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:54:30 No.49907865 Report

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>>49907837
...If you're relying on your co-ax to keep anfantry off you, you're already fucked.

Tanks don't operate without infantry support if they want to live.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:55:35 No.49907879 Report

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>>49902381
Built like a Tiger, ten meters higher than that.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:55:55 No.49907885 Report

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>>49907731
The new LACAL book (might be another book) lets marines take Macharius tanks as generic local variants of tanks as Lord of War choices. I assume this will be added to other army lists, which could lead to a hilarious 7" blast spam by Ordo Reductor

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:56:09 No.49907888 Report

Quoted By: >>49907941 >>49907969 >>49910640

>>49907856
Bloody commies! Comin' over 'ere, stealin' our tank designs!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 20:59:19 No.49907923 Report

Quoted By: >>49907953 >>49907962

>>49907862
>Because they didn't come to the conclusion that it's a retarded-ass design that adds extra unnecessary crewmen to the tank?
More that they were based on warships and battleships of the time used smaller calibre guns in casemate mounts. All things considered having sponsons on your tanks seemed like a logical idea especially before turreted tanks were developed. Besides sponsons are probably nice for clearing out an entire trench line, just park on a trench and have each sponson sweep one side of the trench before moving on.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:01:10 No.49907941 Report

Quoted By: >>49908186

>>49907888
It is such a fucking shame WW2 didn't break out in the late 20s or early 30s. Such glorious tanks.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:01:44 No.49907953 Report

Quoted By: >>49908049

>>49907923
And pray to the heavens above the guy just underneath you doesn't have nerves of steel to realize this is perfect opportunity to slap grenade on your tracks.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:02:43 No.49907962 Report

Quoted By: >>49908000 >>49908049

>>49907923
...you are now aware that trenches were not straight lines.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:03:14 No.49907968 Report

Quoted By: >>49908243

>>49906150
It already is. Most Polacks ARE border hopping migrants. That's why so many Poles live in England.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:03:29 No.49907969 Report

Quoted By: >>49910640

>>49907888
I say, terribly bad form those commies, what!

Definitely a museum worth a visit, I just wish I'd taken more photos

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:05:49 No.49908000 Report

Quoted By: >>49908021

>>49907962
Oh I know, doesn't mean you can't clear out a section of them. Besides you still have infantry support and dozens or hundreds of other tanks. However the trench clearing was just a supposition anyway, my main point was that early tanks were based on warships and warships at the time still used casemate mounts for their secondary guns.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:05:56 No.49908006 Report

Quoted By:

>>49906046
>don't tolerate bullshit
Spent enough time licking it off Soviet boots though...

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:06:56 No.49908021 Report

Quoted By: >>49908686

>>49908000
Please read a history book.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:09:03 No.49908049 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907862
Male tanks had cannon sponsons to reduce their height/because it was easier than a turret, female tanks had MG sponsons to give better protection against infantry attacks in trench attacks/other close situations.

Given the number of enemies in 40k who mob tanks in numbers its pretty obvious why sponsons are so popular there.

>>49907953
Its not like they had anti-tank grenades in WWI, not sure a stick grenade will do much damage to the bottom of the vehicle or its tracks.

>>49907962
Tanks still did the exact thing he mentioned in WWI though.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:12:29 No.49908103 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907837
You're thinking of the Elefant. Which was a tank destroyer. Therefore turretless. And it was a hull-mounted machine gun that it lacked. And the reason they got swamped by Russian infantry at Kursk was that they were too damn stupid to retreat, choosing instead to try and prevent Ivan closing on them by firing their main guns at infantry over open sights.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:22:30 No.49908148 Report

Quoted By: >>49908319 >>49913320

>>49906089
>orks
>HVTs

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:25:55 No.49908186 Report

Quoted By: >>49917743

>>49907941

planes with turrets too

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:26:33 No.49908194 Report

Quoted By: >>49908243

This triggers the Gue'la

Seriously though, those non-jetpacking mechas should had been Tau's superheavy tanks instead.
Hover baneblade would had been sweet

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:26:59 No.49908197 Report

Quoted By:

>>49906396
I can just imagine this rolling up a street, heavy bolters on both sides constantly firing and just obliterating two whole rows of garrisoned heretics.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:29:21 No.49908212 Report

Quoted By: >>49908237

>>49907735
>[maximum damage control]

You can deflect all you want, it won't save your shitty country from being shitty.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:33:07 No.49908230 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907731
Of course not, it was developed in M41 and named after Lord Solar Macharius.

>yet Gorgons, which use the same hull, are in 30k
>lay down
>try not to think about it
>think about it a lot

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:37:44 No.49908237 Report

Quoted By: >>49908699

>>49908212
Shitty ? How ?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:39:24 No.49908243 Report

Quoted By: >>49908309 >>49908339 >>49908369 >>49908506 >>49917790 >>49924437

>>49907968
Again, why do people dislike Poles?
>>49908194
This makes much more sense than
>We are the faction that realizes Titans are a waste of resources
>We now have a Titan better than a Warhound.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:43:39 No.49908305 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907731
You can use it, there's a rule - it represents local tanks or any of the vehicles made by the spread out and disparate 30k mechanicum

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:44:02 No.49908309 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908243
Honestly would've preferred Tau without any special suits. I like their hover tanks, it's just a shame I never see any in place of Riptides etc.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:45:03 No.49908319 Report

Quoted By: >>49910640

>>49908148
>HIII VALU IS DA ENEMY FING WIV DA MOST DAKKA TO LOOT ON IT YA STINKIN' GROT

And seeing as we're talking about 'uge tanks, pic related - only one of these men is not a member of that tank's crew

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:46:21 No.49908339 Report

Quoted By: >>49908742

>>49908243
>Again, why do people dislike Poles?
Poles and slav in general tend to be... uncouth. They are not literally "niggers of the Europe" because that's gypsies, but still to the easiest sort to get along with.

Another side of it is that when slavs get to any First World country they are willing to do manual jobs for cheaper than the locals, because getting paid half the minimum wage is still lot of money when they take it back home. I think The States are in similar predicament with Mexicans.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:47:38 No.49908353 Report

Quoted By:

>>49906089
>at some angles the tank can fire upon itself
You see comrade, when you mount turret like this, gunner will never shoot the inaccurate, because of fear of shooting own vehicle!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:49:16 No.49908369 Report

Quoted By: >>49908466

>>49908243
>>We now have a Titan better than a Warhound
What?

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:51:22 No.49908401 Report

Quoted By: >>49908438 >>49916975

>>49906036
ITTY BITTY BABY!

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:53:38 No.49908438 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908401
that takes me back

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:55:23 No.49908466 Report

Quoted By: >>49908521 >>49908572 >>49909131

>>49908369

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:58:55 No.49908506 Report

Quoted By: >>49908570 >>49908742

>>49908243
>Why do people dislike working class immigrants
It's really just that people hate the working class in general. You meet a native, there's a decent chance he's middle or upper class, but if you meet an immigrant it's like 99.9% chance he's a pleb, and everyone hates plebs.

Also Poles tend to differ pretty strongly on a lot of political and social issues from people in Western Europe, which can make the friction a bit worse.

Great people though, I've been to Poland a few times and aside from getting beaten up twice (my fault) they're swell. Very old fashioned, no nonsense people.

The immigrant worker situation is actually pretty bad for them too, all the young people are leaving to go work in these doomed socialist shitholes instead of doing what Poles are supposed to do and cranking out kids at home. The older Poles all bitch about this incessantly, but they also say that this happens periodically and that the diaspora always ends up coming home eventually.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 21:59:41 No.49908521 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908466
>Designed to counter anything from Imperial Knights to monstrous Tyranid beasts...
May as well just have a bunker. If anything it's the equivalent to a imperial knight suited specifically for defense.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:03:22 No.49908570 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908506
I know this one Polish guy who when he was like 9, ate LSD laces brownies that his older cousin had. Weird place in my opinion.

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:03:50 No.49908572 Report

Quoted By: >>49908590 >>49908642 >>49908796 >>49910560 >>49911298

>>49908466
Remember when Tau were suppose to be beyond stupid big robots with massive guns?
Remember when they were suppose to rely on combined arms and air power, making mockery of slow titans?
Remember when making big mechas for Tau was stupid weeaboos not getting the fluff?

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:05:26 No.49908590 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908572

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:09:38 No.49908642 Report

Quoted By: >>49908674

>>49908572
In fairness, that was mostly just a bullshit excuse to cover for the fact that GW couldn't make mecha any larger than the terrible first run crisis suits - which were basically just, "the kids are really into that Gundam Wing show, we should have one of those," the models.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:12:21 No.49908672 Report

Quoted By: >>49908689

>>49907862
Because tanks didnt start out with reactive armour and in the total war battlefields of WW1 where the tank was popularized you needed a way for the vehicle to protect its own flanks.

Youre a shitty armchair general.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:12:45 No.49908674 Report

Quoted By: >>49908698 >>49908707 >>49915116

>>49908642
They also couldn't make flyers, so how do you explain their air superiority?

Also, dreadnoughts and defilers existed back then, and they're larger than battlesuits of the time. And FW, who made their flyers, also made Warhounds. There was really no reason for Tau to be air superiority and combined arms unless it was their point. But free market decided mechas and that they got. Up the wazoo. And with retarded "it's not a walker, it's a suit of armour" rules.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:14:18 No.49908686 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908021
Troll less learn more

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:14:25 No.49908689 Report

Quoted By: >>49908712 >>49908749

>>49908672
I thought the idea was that you'd drive over a trench and mow down the enemy on both sides of the tank. As well as giving it protection since it wasn't very mobile.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:15:18 No.49908698 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908674
>Also, dreadnoughts and defilers existed back then, and they're larger than battlesuits of the time
But they' are walker vehicles, not Monstrous Creatures Bullshit the Tau get, who can't suffer pens.
If Riptides were Walkers, even Jump Walkers and had dread-like AV much of the bullshit would be toned down.
But no, they're MCs with AP2 guns, invuln saves and FnP.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:15:20 No.49908699 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908237
He doesnt know because his education system is atrocious.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:15:52 No.49908707 Report

Quoted By: >>49908763 >>49908858 >>49915128

>>49908674
Literally what air superiority? Flyers weren't in the game at the time. The first edition of Codex: Tau was fire warriors, battle suits and hammerheads.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:16:21 No.49908712 Report

Quoted By: >>49908841

>>49908689
Thats what was said

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:18:55 No.49908742 Report

Quoted By: >>49908805

>>49908339
>>49908506
Oh. So they're worker-class (plebs) immigrants that are different enough to be singled out among the rest of europeans, I didn't know, thanks.
mfw I'm a mexi. At least I'm not a drugged cholo

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:19:41 No.49908749 Report

Quoted By: >>49909011 >>49909453

>>49908689
No. Trenches were not straight, and there was never just one of them if the guys holding them had been there more than a week. You stop to hose down the first trench, and you will eat a howitzer shell. You stop to hose the second line, and you will also eat a howitzer shell.

The idea was to break through the trenches completely and attack the things behind them. Attacking the trenches themselves is pointless, you don't wan to kill one company in a hole in the ground, you want to get into the rear areas and destroy an entire division, artillery, supplies, airfields, staging areas, railheads etc etc etc.

Read a fucking history book.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:21:01 No.49908763 Report

Quoted By: >>49908850

>>49908707
In the lore mainly, but there were FW's barracuda and tiger sharks - they were big skimmers with extra rules

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:24:53 No.49908796 Report

Quoted By: >>49908847

>>49908572
Someone at 40k realized that if a faction actually utilized combined arms and at the very least modern air power tactics they'd utterly fucking dominate every other faction

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:26:12 No.49908805 Report

Quoted By: >>49915925

>>49908742
Eh, they're the most prominent and distinctive eastern europeans, so they might catch a bit of flakk meant for others, but yeah.

Mainly though it is that they're working class and price the western working class out the market

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:29:50 No.49908841 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908712
I must have missed it somehow, because all I read was:
>you needed a way for the vehicle to protect its own flanks

That doesn't translate very well to "put there as offensive weapons to clean trenches as the tank crossed over them."

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:30:24 No.49908847 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908796
...Tau can easily have a powerful list, and tailor listing is superfucking easy. If anything they don't dominate Eldar with their own Wraith bullshit and witchery, but a Farsight Enclaves list can at leat bring the talisman of Deny the Witch.
My wet dream is getting the Tyranid codex writer to do Eldars

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Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:30:43 No.49908850 Report

Quoted By: >>49908898 >>49908930 >>49909044 >>49928214

>>49908763
Right. The lore which papered over why tau mecha were tiny and lame. And here we are, fifteen years later and Games Workshop can finally do mecha that does the title justice so they no longer need to pretend "MUH AIR SUPERIORITY" is why Tau don't have Titans.

Except most of their robots still look like bipedal abortions because GW's designers still don't understand the mecha aesthetic.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:30:58 No.49908854 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
Supeheavies are completely scale-inappropriate for a 28mm game?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:31:22 No.49908858 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908707
>Literally what air superiority?

The one in the fluff? The one they used to take down titans and shit. In the fluff.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:35:20 No.49908898 Report

Quoted By: >>49908910

>>49908850
>because GW's designers still don't understand the mecha aesthetic.
Thank christ and sanguinius for that, at least tau just about look like they belong

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:36:30 No.49908910 Report

Quoted By: >>49908967

>>49908898
>at least tau just about look like they belong
In what? A garbage can?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:38:22 No.49908930 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908850
This thing would look so much better as a tank, hull mounted cannon and those rocket pods on a spoiler like in Skyray

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:43:00 No.49908967 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908910
Like they belong somewhere better than a mecha anime.

Well, most of them, that Sormsurge seems like it'd fit on /m/ what with how shitty it is

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:46:39 No.49909011 Report

Quoted By: >>49909083

>>49908749
Tanks were made to break the stalemate of the trench warfare, right? They enabled you to advance over the no-man's-land and reach the enemy trenches, did they not? But all your troops could not be in tanks, now could they? Some had to advance on foot behind the tanks. And even if the tanks get over the trenches with relative ease, people do not. They'll have to get down into the trenches and fight with the enemy infantry there, or else they'd get shot in the back while the tanks continue on without infantry support, right? So why is it utter bullshit for a tank with guns on the sides to drive up to the trench and fire some shots into it, distracting and suppressing the enemies there enough for the infantry coming up behind the tank to get into the trench?

>"The guns themselves offered only limited side-to-side traversal and elevation for they were intended to engage targets below the tank in a trench or at equal level with the tank."
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=234

Pretty weird for them to make guns that can shoot down into trenches and not use them for that purpose.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:49:05 No.49909044 Report

Quoted By: >>49909118 >>49926521

>>49908850
>pretend "MUH AIR SUPERIORITY"
>doesn't know Tau pilots are superior to all the races, including Eldar, Space Marine and Necron ones

Still waiting for stories of Imperial fighters taking out big slow Tau mechas.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:50:55 No.49909064 Report

Quoted By: >>49909254

>>49902334
>>49902443
>>49902692
>>49902722
>>49902849
>>49903748
>>49907521
When even the imperium needs more Dakka!

Gebuz... imagine an Ork conversion of this. How will they fit more guns on it?

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:53:04 No.49909083 Report

Quoted By: >>49909104

>>49909011
>I do not know what the role of artillery was in WWI and am going to shitpost instead of reading a fucking book

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:54:39 No.49909104 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909083
Low quality b8, m8.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:55:58 No.49909118 Report

Quoted By: >>49909218 >>49909479 >>49917821

>>49909044
>Implying any pilot can ever be better than eldar or dark eldar
>mfw

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 22:57:08 No.49909131 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908466
God. What a terrible piece of shit design. You did a bad job, GW. Bad, bad GW. Come back when you give the Tau a battlesuit that makes sense
>comes back with Stormsurge

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:03:06 No.49909212 Report

Quoted By: >>49909235

>>49901750
The guys on top are exposed to small arms fire.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:03:47 No.49909218 Report

Quoted By: >>49909235 >>49910400 >>49915513 >>49927101

>>49909118
>"Most Tau team leaders and fighter aces have more experience than a whole squadron of other races’ pilots"
-Death from the Skies, pg. 20

It's canon, deal with it.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:04:55 No.49909235 Report

Quoted By: >>49909499

>>49909212
More like fervient to engage the heretic and xenos
>>49909218
Even though they live like 60 years tops? WTF

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:06:11 No.49909254 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909064
>How will they fit more guns on it?
It's an ork skill

Actually FW still sell a load of ork guns to stick on things iirc

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:23:39 No.49909453 Report

Quoted By: >>49916694

>>49908749
Perhaps you should, the British plan at one battle specifically called for a tank to stop at each line of trenches to engage the infantry in them.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:26:03 No.49909479 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909118
Not as many as they used to, I can assure you. They needed to make more room for Space Marines vs Space Marines.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:26:36 No.49909485 Report

Quoted By: >>49909581

The sad thing is people will actually defend GW screwing over the fluff to make money with the whole Tau thing. But we also have to blame the stupid fucks who keep buying these giant robots.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:27:22 No.49909499 Report

Quoted By: >>49909649 >>49910506

>>49909235
Well, I guess they ARE the only race that dabbles in VR simulations, even when at rest.

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:33:15 No.49909581 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909485
At least Knights and Titans have a damn unique look, Tau only barely fit and just wish they were mecha

Anonymous Sat 22 Oct 2016 23:38:53 No.49909649 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909499
>the only race that dabbles in VR simulations
>Who are the Iron Hands
Even M3 humans do VR anon.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:19:45 No.49910138 Report

Quoted By: >>49911206

>>49906089
>at some angles the tank can fire upon itself
Feature, not bug.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:39:32 No.49910400 Report

Quoted By: >>49911263 >>49915959 >>49917269

>>49909218

Having more experience =/= being better.
There are biological limitations, also more experience than someone flying a ship for 300 years when your life spawn hardly reaches 70 is a tad silly.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:47:37 No.49910506 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909499
According to BL imperial pilots also use VR for training.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:51:46 No.49910560 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908572
in fairness the supremacy armor is pretty reasonable by titan standards

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 00:58:02 No.49910640 Report

Quoted By: >>49923862 >>49927569

>>49908319
>>49907969
>>49907888
I find it ironic that a modernized version of these 'archaic and stupid' infantry tank designs would cost about as much as a second hand T-55 to produce in large numbers and would be amazingly effective in places like Syria.

A MK 1, Mk2, Char-B or BT-5 made with modern engines and transmissions would still only go about 10-15 MPH but would have around 150 tons of armor.

Imagine a modern BT-5:

It has 8-12 inches of composite armor. It has spaced armor made of scrap sheet metal, chain link fences and a foot of sand bags on everything else. The Assad regime replaced the useless AT gun with a breech loading mortar. It has a dozer blade and the rear has a 12 man squad of combat engineers. A half dozen of them are advancing on you.

Sure, they just have a fuckton of machine guns, a half dozen mortars, a companies worth of combat engineers and are only moving at 10 mph.

But since rebels don't have airforces good luck stopping them outside of a lucky massive IED.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:02:54 No.49910708 Report

Quoted By: >>49910727 >>49910847 >>49911056

>>49901750
>Dat -3 degree gun depression. Hope the orbital bombardment knocked out every hill around you. Or your armour is.... oh.
>Barely angled, if at all angled armour.
>Using the frame of a leman, an already sluggish tank for a body with almost twice the mass. (Good luck with even going up hills.)
>Having a cover directly over the treads, not to mention the engine block with no room for mud tracked on, so it would build up and jam up the treads in a matter of minutes.
>With the side plating so low to the ground your suspension would be non-existant.
>Giant gun, with a turret that doesn't have enough room for much of any recoil compensation, so you will have to reset your sights after every shot like the old starships.
>Turret so far back, that you would have to overexpose yourself to get a shot in.
>Giant ass silhouette so you will quickly be spotted and shot.

Try again.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:03:59 No.49910727 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910708
Also, with as large as the loading breach would have to be for those cannons, I doubt you have much gun elevation either.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:12:38 No.49910847 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910708
shit, didint mean to say russ. Point still stands though, The tread's proportions are all kinds of fucked up.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:21:46 No.49910992 Report

Quoted By: >>49916947 >>49922852

>>49907668
>2 man chibi IG las-cannon tank destroyer/Stug III

Fast Attack choice:
Hyena Tank destroyer squadron
Cost: 40
Unit size: 1 Hyena Tank Destroyer
AV: 12/11/10 2 HP
Weapons: Lascannon
Special rules: Fast, tank, Measured Shot

Options:
Up to five additional Hyenas: +40 each
Each Hyena may take:
Smoke launcher for +5 points
Heavy Stubber for +5 points
Camo netting for +5 points
Targeter for +5 points

Special rule: Measured Shot: If the Hyena has not moved on it's previous turn it may fire it's las-cannon as if it was twin linked and may reroll failed armor penetration rolls. If it chooses this option it may not move in it's next turn.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:26:38 No.49911056 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910708
The turret is physically impossible even if it was unmanned, stop trying to justify it.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:26:45 No.49911058 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
The same flaw tons of imperial vehicles have. It's ground clearance is zero because it has no suspension.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:37:35 No.49911206 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910138
Underrated post

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:41:03 No.49911263 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910400
Unless it's some sort of future hypnosis/advanced VR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 01:43:40 No.49911298 Report

Quoted By: >>49915699

>>49908572
>Remember when Tau were suppose to be beyond stupid big robots with massive guns?
>Remember when they were suppose to rely on combined arms and air power, making mockery of slow titans?
>Remember when making big mechas for Tau was stupid weeaboos not getting the fluff?

Yeah then they got their asses handed to them by the titan legions and barely stalemated with mass manta deployment.

You cannot stop the mecha curse.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 02:13:52 No.49911712 Report

Quoted By: >>49911873

>>49901750

Why does it have an aircraft searchlight when it's clearly designed to fight ground targets.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 02:26:55 No.49911873 Report

Quoted By:

>>49911712
Death Korps are scared of the dark.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 02:43:03 No.49912061 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907075

tabul o' contentz Sun 23 Oct 2016 02:51:18 No.49912164 Report

Quoted By: >>49912690

Ey, baws deez humies want to know a flaw in dey tin can. Iz sees a flaw;

NOT. ENUFF. DAKKA.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 03:27:37 No.49912690 Report

Quoted By: >>49916343 >>49917175 >>49919584 >>49926099

>>49912164
Are the Baneblade novels any good? I'm looking for RAW TANK SEKZ

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 03:35:33 No.49912787 Report

Quoted By: >>49912871 >>49919173 >>49926595

While we're on the topic of tanks, does this look trustworthy?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LEGION-SICARAN-BATTLE-TANK-/282190827069?hash=item41b3e24e3d:g:epUAAOSwaB5Xv9xD

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 03:41:53 No.49912871 Report

Quoted By: >>49912914

>>49912787
Only one way to find out!

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 03:45:42 No.49912914 Report

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>>49912871
I have an hour to decide shiieeeet

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 04:17:51 No.49913320 Report

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>>49908148
>orks
>HVTs

I'm just another armchair general anon with no experience, but I imagine a "da boss" figure whose sudden death would be harmful to the orks morale, whose tactical ability / cunning is important, or might result in infighting as the remaining orks scramble to succeed him. An attack might even be made as a "false flag" attempt to convince the orks' leading faction that a rival group of orks was attempting a coup, making them succumb to infighting at a bad time. It could also be a large unit or group that is important to the orks' plans and capabilities.

Then the Imperium's forces could take advantage of the relative disarray, fighting a group of orks that is either weakened, lacking in clear leadership (can't be quite as cunning without a boss), or in the midst of internal conflict (their guns are pointed at each other instead of at da humies).

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:33:23 No.49914077 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
Lots of shot-traps in the armor.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:42:19 No.49914168 Report

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I want to get a TOG model and replace its turret with a Kv 2 turret.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:48:47 No.49914228 Report

Quoted By: >>49914260

You guys remember when the artists for koyfish forgot that certain baneblade chassis had a fixed hull mounted gun platform and accidentally made a baneblade/t110 hybrid? I want one of these soo bad.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:52:49 No.49914260 Report

Quoted By: >>49914435

>>49914228

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:56:27 No.49914291 Report

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>>49901750
>Flaw
It is a plastic/part resin scale model. It would get completely ignored or kicked aside by regular infantry. That or ceremonially crushed under actual tank tracks. It is worse than useless, it takes the defenders time to paint that could have been used to improve defensive bastions. ..... Oh wait, I'm not on /k/, carry on then.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 05:58:50 No.49914310 Report

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>>49907862

What are automated guns for 500 Alex.

Combined with servitor skulls and compact reactors, they're extra shooty bits with virtually no extra cost. Only the Lemon Rust uses manned sponsons.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 06:01:38 No.49914333 Report

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>>49901750
I don't care for the color. Maybe if those guadsmen were kitted out for the desert like their tank is painted for.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 06:06:59 No.49914361 Report

Quoted By: >>49916951

>>49907668

Why is this not a thing?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 06:15:39 No.49914435 Report

Quoted By:

>>49914260
Mont'Ka was such a clusterfuck of art, with some good pieces and others irredeemable terrible.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 06:17:16 No.49914446 Report

Quoted By: >>49914903

>>49901750
A number of real life tanks could literally drive circles around it.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:06:47 No.49914895 Report

Quoted By: >>49915258

>>49902044
Orks should have this as an option

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:07:56 No.49914903 Report

Quoted By:

>>49914446
Well yeah, it's a model.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:14:27 No.49914955 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
Big, flat sides.

>ATGM love you long time.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:25:00 No.49915029 Report

Quoted By:

>>49907735
Good to see the Christ lovers are still up to their old tricks.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:28:29 No.49915058 Report

Quoted By:

>>49902334
Looks like something the Soviets would have built in the early days.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:36:50 No.49915116 Report

Quoted By: >>49915488

>>49908674
Taufag here. While I like the Riptide, broadside, stealth and crisis suits and don't particularly mind the ghostkeel, that mobile weapons platform and the Tau'anar or whatever its called. I wish they had gone in a different direction like Auxilleries or other vehicle types instead of the last three..

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:37:43 No.49915126 Report

Quoted By:

post more glorious tank model kits
are there any good armoured recovery kits, i am canadian army mechanic and can never find ARV or TLAV kits. leopard and m113 recovery variants

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 07:37:56 No.49915128 Report

Quoted By:

>>49908707
And Kroot.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 08:01:30 No.49915258 Report

Quoted By:

>>49914895
I think they do strap gretchin to their stuff for protection

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 08:37:56 No.49915488 Report

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>>49915116
I would have killed for a big ass drone with a big ass railgun like the Peace Walker's Chrysalis.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 08:42:06 No.49915513 Report

Quoted By:

>>49909218

My combat database begs to differ.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:09:27 No.49915699 Report

Quoted By: >>49915779

>>49911298
Because Mantas were not designed for that sort of work. Then they developed anti-titan flyers. Or just shot them with hammerheads. Their whole doctrine has been flexibility and not holding onto ground, but now they do hold onto ground and make big rowboats to do so.

So when can my Guard get their super-heavy sentinels?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:22:31 No.49915779 Report

Quoted By: >>49915848

>>49915699
What do you think a Warhound is?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:31:25 No.49915835 Report

Quoted By:

>>49906305
And neither are poles

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:33:56 No.49915848 Report

Quoted By: >>49915898

>>49915779
Not part of Imperial Guard.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:35:34 No.49915854 Report

Quoted By: >>49915865 >>49915882 >>49916036 >>49918053 >>49922796 >>49927609

>>49901750
A lot of dudes are on the OUTSIDE of that armor for some stupid fucking reason, how's that?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:37:33 No.49915865 Report

Quoted By:

>>49915854
There are lot's of things you can strap to a tank to increase protection, spare treads, logs, reactive plates, people.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:40:56 No.49915882 Report

Quoted By:

>>49915854
>"What is tank desant?" for 300 thrones.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:43:33 No.49915898 Report

Quoted By: >>49915918

>>49915848
So? They're still super-heavy sentinels.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:47:17 No.49915918 Report

Quoted By:

>>49915898
It's not a unit in IG codex. If every faction needs to be the same with big rowboats, lets have some IG super-heavy walkers then. And Marines ones. Super-heavy walkers for all!

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:49:21 No.49915925 Report

Quoted By: >>49918963

>>49908805
Also they complain about discrimination but are worse themselves - e.g. They took over an agency and put an advert for workers stating no British, they open shops with no English writing, they have killed lots of children due to drink driving etc oh and they moved into the white areas of the country

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 09:54:45 No.49915959 Report

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>>49910400
Tau mature quickly so the pilot is likely flying at age 8-10 and by age 40 is still top peak physical
Compare with human who starts at 16 and by 40 is on the decline
Space marines are not the majority of humans

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 10:06:33 No.49916036 Report

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>>49915854
Those are what are commonly referred to being as the PBI or the poor bloody infantry.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 10:56:42 No.49916343 Report

Quoted By: >>49916635 >>49917681 >>49922705

>>49912690
Literally every single anime gif/webm I have seen posted on /tg/ just makes me dislike it more. How can people actually watch this crap and then have aunerisms defending it is beyond me

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 11:45:40 No.49916635 Report

Quoted By:

>>49916343
Nobody can help it, if you hate fun.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 11:55:12 No.49916694 Report

Quoted By: >>49917188

>>49909453
So, cleanup crew.

Fuck off idiot.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:17:34 No.49916829 Report

Quoted By:

>>49903748
>4x TLMM
>5x TLHB
>PMSB
>and that's just the
>secondary armaments

Muh dick.

It's great to see weathering done by someone who may actually have seen weather-beaten machinery IRL, too. Nicely done.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:37:13 No.49916947 Report

Quoted By: >>49916990

>>49910992
It's known as the Destroyer tank hunter. Mounts a laser destroyer instead of a straight lascannon.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:38:19 No.49916951 Report

Quoted By: >>49916990

>>49914361
It actually is.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:40:45 No.49916969 Report

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>>49901839
So why aren't all tanks made like pills if you want sloped armor?

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:41:01 No.49916975 Report

Quoted By: >>49916998 >>49926517

>>49908401
TWINKIE HOUSE

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:43:20 No.49916990 Report

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>>49916947
>>49916951
Thatos no at all like >>49907668, which is smaller than a chimera and mounts a regular lascannon instead of a bit laser destroyer. It was made as a lascannon sentinel conversion a long time ago.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:44:44 No.49916998 Report

Quoted By:

>>49916975
>not at all
>looks exactly the same
Pick only one.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:45:20 No.49917004 Report

Quoted By: >>49917094

>>49907668
>just a hull lascannon
it feels like it needs something with a tiny bit more oomph, otherwise it feels like a heavy weapons team on roller blades.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:56:44 No.49917094 Report

Quoted By:

>>49917004
It's an old conversion to counts-as a sentinel (or armoured sentinel now I guess)

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 12:58:19 No.49917106 Report

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Since the genestealers have bought back the great big killy prow rule, how long until GW wises up and gives us a mine-flail tank, primariily designed to flail infantry. Take a land raider, stick a rotating drum with 24 thunder hammers attached it it on the front, call it a day.,

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 13:07:47 No.49917175 Report

Quoted By: >>49917681 >>49917712

>>49912690
>Wehraboo shit + anime girls
Disgusting

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 13:09:12 No.49917188 Report

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>>49916694
In what possible sense is committing a third of every tank in each squad to each of the three trench lines as the main point of the assault a 'cleanup crew'. The whole point is indeed to attack the trench so your own infantry can capture it with as few casualties as possible. Battle of Cambrai, go look it up.

And next time don't insult people when you yourself are being ignorant you child.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 13:16:54 No.49917269 Report

Quoted By:

>>49910400
>It's another 'let's take one paragraph of lore and desperately cling to it despite disagreements with the rest of the lore, while also making assumptions to keep the sentence as undeniable as possible'

And a single Tactical Marine would paste Farsight, Lelith or a Bloodthirster in a fight any day of the week because Space Marines are the best warriors in the galaxy.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 13:18:15 No.49917283 Report

Quoted By:

GW really needs to put the Salamander back into production.

Also does anybody make a good autocannon turret for the Chimera other than Forge World?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 13:20:58 No.49917311 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
GW has some of the shittiest tank designs of all time but this one does look pretty nice.
The dkok lemun russ look pretty good as well.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:06:27 No.49917681 Report

Quoted By:

>>49916343
>>49917175
>literally being too stupid to appreciate a good panzerfechten

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:09:48 No.49917712 Report

Quoted By: >>49917854

>>49917175
It's a webm where they are doing gunkata with tanks, I havent's seen the Lolis & Tanks anime, and I find it strange how a single webm can irritate your hemorroids so much. In any case, since nobody responded I already got myself Baneblade, Iron Harvest and that other one, Stormlord or something. Maybe I'll get the new one later, I don't know, and I won't know because people are more concerned about an asian cartoon of girls driving tanks than talking about a Baneblade's tank porn.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:13:58 No.49917743 Report

Quoted By: >>49917903

>>49908186
>Implying there were no planes with turrets in WW2
>What is the Bristol Beaufighter?
>What is the Wellington, The Lancaster, The B17 etc, etc, etc?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:18:35 No.49917790 Report

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>>49908243
I don't mind Poles, worked with a few of them, get drunk and bullshit regularly with a couple. I was just accurately responding to his comment about 'migrants', Poster seems to think that only brown-skinned migrants count as migrants, when Poland's main export happens to actually be migrant Poles.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:22:19 No.49917821 Report

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>>49909118
>eldar/dark eldar pilots.
ZOGGIN GITS! DEFF SKWADREN REPRESENT! ORKS IS BEST!

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:25:38 No.49917854 Report

Quoted By: >>49917891 >>49918053 >>49918763 >>49919121 >>49924989

>>49917712
>endless possibilities for what to do with tanks, especially if it's animated
>nah lets just have little girls drive the tanks and make it look like they are fighting, got to lure in the pathetic weebs and chink manchildren

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:30:07 No.49917891 Report

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>>49917854
>Japan
>Expecting them to do with tanks different than they did with Shipsluts and AirplaneJanes
Hope is the first step down the road to dissapointment, anon.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:31:25 No.49917903 Report

Quoted By: >>49918436

>>49917743
i think he meant something like pic related. it had no forward facing guns, only the turret

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:45:16 No.49918053 Report

Quoted By: >>49919239 >>49919267

>>49915854
I hope you are trolling.

>>49917854
How underage do you have to be to be butthurt by a generic anime doing generic anime things?
It's like being surprised by a bird flying, or a dog barking.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:52:36 No.49918118 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901839
Irrelevant against laser guns and other weird shit

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:55:28 No.49918138 Report

Quoted By:

>>49904429
Both of you need to fuck off to tanknet and learn about tank armor before blabbing

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 14:57:00 No.49918148 Report

Quoted By: >>49919565

>>49906354
>>49907630
It doesn't travel on paved roads because it would destroy them. It actually travels over gravel.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 15:33:35 No.49918436 Report

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>>49917903
Yeah, the Bolton Paul Defiant is what I actually meant when I wrote Beaufighter, not sure how I got the two muddled up in my head, but my point was that the anon I replied to seemed to think that there were no planes with turrets in WW2.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:13:46 No.49918763 Report

Quoted By: >>49919267

>>49917854
whatever

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:34:08 No.49918963 Report

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>>49915925

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:51:30 No.49919121 Report

Quoted By: >>49919148 >>49919267

>>49917854
take a fucking shot of bleach you retarded fudge packing manchild

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:53:57 No.49919148 Report

Quoted By: >>49919200 >>49920398

>>49919121
>manchild

You just defended that stupid anime and think you can call him that? Its moronic, they keep wasting good concepts by stuffing little girls in.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:57:11 No.49919168 Report

Quoted By: >>49919357

>>49901750
how small must those guns be if they're being fitted on a turret ring that small? Also, does it not have a commander's cupola weapon? Or a coaxial?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 16:58:00 No.49919173 Report

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>>49912787
>Item Location
>China

Yeah... no. It looks like a pretty bloody good cast though.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:00:34 No.49919200 Report

Quoted By: >>49919267 >>49919530 >>49920398

>>49919148
>i'm completely triggered by little girls and refuse to look past them
>even though the show avoids pretty much all the tropes that are associated with the genre
>But you lack the mental capacity to do even the slightest amount of research before you drop your pants and shit out your opinion
>waah waahh where's my super grim dark tank combat anime

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:05:05 No.49919239 Report

Quoted By:

>>49918053
>infantry protection.jpg

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:07:41 No.49919267 Report

Quoted By: >>49921627

>>49918053
>>49918763
>>49919121
>being so butthurt that I don't like your animays

>>49919200
>strawmanning this hard

>>49918763
Also what a great video. It has like 4 completely different artstyles smashed together and it actually looks fucking stupid

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:18:35 No.49919357 Report

Quoted By:

>>49919168
It does have a coax. It's the other gun silly.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:37:02 No.49919530 Report

Quoted By:

>>49919200
>i'm completely triggered by little girls and refuse to look past them

But everything past the little girls is just as shit as the little girls. There's not a single redeeming feature in the whole thing.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:40:49 No.49919565 Report

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>>49918148
Gravel is one form of pavement.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 17:42:21 No.49919584 Report

Quoted By: >>49920398

>>49912690

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 18:55:46 No.49920398 Report

Quoted By:

>>49919148
>, they keep wasting good concepts by stuffing little girls in.
Ugh, who the fuck wants to watch a tank anime with regular men? That's what real doccumentaries and movies are for, man. Like Fury, I absolutely loved it as a movie (even if what happens is pretty obvious), but I wouldn't give a fuck about it if it was an anime with regular accurate grown male protagonists, unless it was REEEEEEEALLLY well made.
Maybe with some boobs.
Boobs or little girls let you know it's not something to slave over.
>>49919200
>>waah waahh where's my super grim dark tank combat anime
...is there one? I don't really watch anime, but I'd definitely watch that.
>>49919584
HNNNNNNNNGGG TANK PORN!
Have this, the birth of a Baneblade

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 20:17:06 No.49921562 Report

Quoted By:

>>49906169
Lol, that tank exists. Go read up on some tanks before you start mouthing shit like you know anything

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 20:22:09 No.49921627 Report

Quoted By: >>49923103

>>49919267
lol, [triggered]

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 20:23:32 No.49921649 Report

Quoted By: >>49924727

>>49902044

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 20:46:10 No.49921968 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
Two flaws. First off, there's charge type ablative armour piled on top. Those are Kriegers, they'll charge the enemy. Second off, that's not a Macharius Vulcan.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 21:38:31 No.49922705 Report

Quoted By: >>49923103

>>49916343
The depicted events actually happened once in the Korean War. Obv not as dramatic, but it did happen a single time out of the history of armoured warfare. Cut the weebs some slack.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 21:45:34 No.49922796 Report

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>>49915854
>he's never heard of desantniki
Tanks carrying infantry on their backs, who then typically dismount when battle is joined (unless the crew compartment gives a nice lip to take cover behind, see pic related) is a good cheap way to make up for the fact that not every infantry formation is going to come with IFVs/APCs.

The tactic was most commonly used in WW2 when the idea of an IFV was still taking form, and in modern times it's (mostly) outdated; some very brave Middle Eastern fighters use it because IFVs are a luxury many of them do not have.

I imagine that in the 41st Millenium, where war is more constant and not every infantry formation can have their own supporting armor, it's a more commonly used tactic. The picture of that Macharius is actually likely to have one of the regiments who do it most; Kriegers don't have a great deal of infantry carriers, but they sure do have a lot of infantry and a lot of tanks.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 21:49:07 No.49922852 Report

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>>49910992
That's a neat idea, and I hate to be that guy, but is this really a necessary unit when Sentinels can carry lascannon?

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 22:08:38 No.49923103 Report

Quoted By: >>49923971 >>49924875

>>49921627
>share my opinion on two clips
>get like 10 replies bitching at me without a single argument
Yeah mate, I'm the one triggered.

>>49922705
A chink tank rammed an American tank in hopes of turning it over. Their cannons happened to collide because they were aiming at each other a second ago.
It's nothing like the clip, where they are fucking fencing while doing sick 360 donuts

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 22:32:43 No.49923436 Report

Quoted By:

Love the Macharius so much. Building my Vulcan one at the moment.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 23:00:01 No.49923862 Report

Quoted By: >>49924841 >>49926613

>>49910640
Problem is the "moderate rebels" in Syria have an unlimited supply of American made TOW missiles, there's videos of ISIS sitting on crates of them with hundreds of more crates in the background. They use them for everything now, even shooting at jeeps or at bunkers where they're very ineffective but it's not like they paid for the things. There's even a video of them using 30 of them to demolish a building and chop down trees. Not a military objective, just a bunch of bored men with "free" missiles who decided to use them up before the next shipment arrives.

WW1 tanks would not last long in Syria.

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Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 23:07:52 No.49923971 Report

Quoted By: >>49924767

>>49923103
>they are fucking fencing while doing sick 360 donuts
That only means they were unprepared.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 23:25:45 No.49924240 Report

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>>49901750

Treads are exposed to the heaviest incoming fire. Easy immobilization.

>Find a flaw
>You can't.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel anon. These are tanks designed by liberal arts majors.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 23:37:49 No.49924437 Report

Quoted By: >>49924821 >>49924827

>>49908243
>Again, why do people dislike Poles?

I'm Texan, and have literally heard nothing about Polish hate until I met a British exchange student who did nothing but shit-talk the polish girl in our band who I happened to be dating, and honestly don't really get it other than the, "foreigners aren't people," attitude that tends to simmer under the surface of all of Europe.

We hate Europeans more than anything else here in Texas. The ship that carried our fear of Mexicans sailed a long time ago - they're already overrunning the Valley and the urban areas.

Anonymous Sun 23 Oct 2016 23:58:21 No.49924727 Report

Quoted By:

>>49921649
Why does this is image zoom in on infantry protection as if it isn't a joke.
No the russians didnt use men to stop rounds hitting their tanks.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:01:41 No.49924767 Report

Quoted By: >>49924838 >>49924859

>>49923971
I see your sword than and raise you a fail tank.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:05:31 No.49924821 Report

Quoted By:

>>49924437
most of us in the UK don't hate all poles, we just hate the benefit scrounging, vodka drinking (24/7) do nothing sit on their arse all day poles.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:05:48 No.49924827 Report

Quoted By:

>>49924437
>"foreigners aren't people," attitude that tends to simmer under the surface of all of Europe.
Basically, we spent centuries battling and hating people just over the border, it's only after ww2 that we started acting all buddy buds with each other. And old habits die hard.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:06:15 No.49924838 Report

Quoted By: >>49924900

>>49924767
An Imperial Deffrolla, meant for killing minefields, used for wrecking plebz. Say, where are 4chan's tank threads? /k/? I mostly keep to /tg/

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:06:28 No.49924841 Report

Quoted By: >>49926529

>>49923862
>I payed for this.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:07:30 No.49924859 Report

Quoted By: >>49924908 >>49926067

>>49924767
I always wondered what would happen if they used those on a crowd of people.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:08:26 No.49924875 Report

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>>49923103
>Their cannons happened to collide because they were aiming at each other a second ago.

Not so. They jousted for a bit before the American tank backed off, reloaded, and shot them.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:11:21 No.49924900 Report

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>>49924838
Treadhead threads on /k/ are for armor.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:11:37 No.49924908 Report

Quoted By: >>49924929

>>49924859
Somewhere in Geneva, department of international treaties, a folder would spontaneously combust.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:12:50 No.49924929 Report

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>>49924908
Nah, Hillary would just delete it.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:16:23 No.49924989 Report

Quoted By: >>49925314 >>49926547

>>49917854
>>endless possibilities for what to do with tanks, especially if it's animated
Like what, move around and shoot each other?

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 00:43:10 No.49925314 Report

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>>49924989
I still like the bit where they took out the Maus.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:05:40 No.49925637 Report

Quoted By: >>49925758

Not enough dakka

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:15:23 No.49925758 Report

Quoted By: >>49925882

>>49925637
You're only stating the obvious, anon. I'm parking the Stormlord, we gotta make up for lost dakka.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:24:29 No.49925882 Report

Quoted By: >>49926053

>>49925758
You know, I might not be a Magos Artisian or anything, but there's technically room for another Vulkan Mega-Bolter on that design.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:36:51 No.49926053 Report

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>>49925882
Cogs and bolts, anon, it's fine the way it is.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:37:23 No.49926067 Report

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>>49924859
You can use them as anti-infantry in company of heroes.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:39:44 No.49926099 Report

Quoted By: >>49926151 >>49926201 >>49926324 >>49926336

>>49912690
The level of retard you have to be to watch Girls Und Panzer is incomprehensible to the normal human.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:44:22 No.49926151 Report

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>>49926099
But I don't watch it you double nigger! I snatched that up from the filename thread and posted it in the tank thread to get some tank porn.
And nobody answered my request, so I went and got the baneblade novels.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:48:08 No.49926201 Report

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>>49926099
>opinions
Eat shit and die normal slime

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:56:52 No.49926324 Report

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>>49926099
Why is it /tg/ keeps taking the goddamn bait

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 01:57:52 No.49926336 Report

Quoted By: >>49926384

>>49926099
this desu.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:01:55 No.49926384 Report

Quoted By: >>49926399

>>49926336
t. Shitlord

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:03:12 No.49926399 Report

Quoted By:

>>49926384
Baiting successful!
Not that anon

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:12:25 No.49926517 Report

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>>49916975
orktmus prime

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:12:48 No.49926521 Report

Quoted By: >>49927101

>>49909044
>Anyone better than eldar pilots.
You can have your opinion, but I must point out that it is retarded.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:13:32 No.49926529 Report

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>>49924841
Help us, God Emperor....

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:14:50 No.49926547 Report

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>>49924989
It's like rocket jumping for tanks.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:16:16 No.49926559 Report

Quoted By: >>49927595

>>49901750

The turret is on the wrong end of the tank.

It hurts my autism so bad. For some reason artists, game designers and modellers keep sticking the turret on the ass end of tanks.

It doesn't belong there. Its just not right.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:20:00 No.49926595 Report

Quoted By:

>>49912787
>China
No.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:21:32 No.49926613 Report

Quoted By: >>49926628 >>49926641

>>49923862

You do know that Iran makes an EXACT COPY of the TOW missile, along with several other American weapons... right?

http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=451

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:22:51 No.49926628 Report

Quoted By: >>49926641 >>49926686

>>49926613
>exact copy
>Iran
Fucking thing is probably a glorified bottle rocket.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:24:15 No.49926641 Report

Quoted By:

>>49926613
I E D s
>>49926628
I wouldn't like it if they were actual bottle rockets and they worked

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 02:28:31 No.49926686 Report

Quoted By:

>>49926628

The TOW is from the later neolithic (also known as the 60s) which helps.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 03:16:29 No.49927101 Report

Quoted By:

>>49926521
>calls canon fluff an "opinion"
>doesn't know of >>49909218

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 03:59:10 No.49927569 Report

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>>49910640
Your stupid, outdated tanks would get eaten alive by RPGs and TOW missiles.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 04:01:14 No.49927595 Report

Quoted By: >>49927801 >>49929213

>>49926559

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 04:02:29 No.49927609 Report

Quoted By:

>>49915854
They call it infantry protection for a reason

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 04:11:54 No.49927719 Report

Quoted By:

>>49901750
First of all "perfect tank is perfect" and OP knows this.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 04:17:35 No.49927801 Report

Quoted By: >>49929213

>>49927595
I too thought about the Merkava, but refrained from posting when I saw more than 1 google result.

Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 04:51:56 No.49928214 Report

Quoted By: >>49928415

>>49908850
I always wanted to see a quadrupedal version of this. I reckon it'd look slightly better

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 05:11:40 No.49928415 Report

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>>49928214
Quad tanks are nice

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Anonymous Mon 24 Oct 2016 06:38:17 No.49929213 Report

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>>49927595
>>49927801
This may or may not be an accurate comparison. The reason the Merkava and other front-engined tanks work is because the extra bulk of the engine at the front helps protect the crew from penetrating shots from the front. The Macharius may or may not be front-engined, I cannot tell. If it is, then per pic related and other reference shots, its exhaust pipes are funneled pointlessly all the way to the rear of the tank.

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