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>>50364782
Asked this in WIP, but no dice so far.
How tall is a Nurgling model? (Or compared to Space Marine)

Was originally thinking of using Brimstone Horrors as a Tzeentican Count-As for Nurglings, but I think that they'll be too short conpared to the Nurgling towers.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:15:21 No.50364833 Report

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>>50364806
Too slow and disappointing........like your legion

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:15:24 No.50364834 Report

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>>50364809
>Can get better than re-rolls on 1s by being Tsons.
Sweating Guardsmen.jpeg

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:15:50 No.50364841 Report

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>>50364809
>77777
>not a single 9

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:16:30 No.50364845 Report

Quoted By: >>50364861 >>50364876 >>50364886

>>50364809
>Hes goING to have 7 wounds at T7 with a 3++ that rerolls ones
>He's probably going to harness warp charges on a 2+

please tell me this isn't real

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:18:03 No.50364861 Report

Quoted By: >>50364878

>>50364845
It is
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:18:42 No.50364865 Report

Quoted By: >>50364912

>>50364841
Well if you add all the stats together, you get a multiple of 9. Tzeentch is being a sneaky fucker.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:19:16 No.50364869 Report

Quoted By: >>50364949 >>50364972

So are militarum tempestus any good? I barely if ever see them mentioned on here. And pretty much the only thing i've heard is that apparantly their main transport, the... Taurox? Has armor of consistency and durabillity suspiciously remniscient of that of papier mache.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:19:23 No.50364871 Report

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>>50364809
>15 powers
O-Okay

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:19:44 No.50364875 Report

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>>50364809
You could just post a link, faggot.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:19:45 No.50364876 Report

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>>50364845
It quite clearly says a 4++ that re-rolls 1s.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:19:58 No.50364878 Report

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>>50364861
>big-guy

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:20:44 No.50364886 Report

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Q: Can Psykers embarked in vehicles or buildings only cast witchfire powers? Does this include Psykers who are riders of a Chariot?
A: Psykers embarked in Transports or buildings can only cast witchfire powers. Psykers who are riders of Chariots can attempt to manifest any type of psychic power.

welp guess it's time to try that t.herald on burning chariot i've always wanted to try. lv3, couple of rows on tzeentch table, prescience, impossible robe and warlord to maybe get +1 invul or lv4.

>>50364845
might be, Nagash in whfb 8th was monstrously powerful like that. better bring the anti psychic assassin because those sisters of silence aren't gonna be enough

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:21:04 No.50364892 Report

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>>50364809
H-How many points is he going to be?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:21:16 No.50364895 Report

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>>50364871
>15 Powers
>Unless he's Psychic Mastery (15) he won't be able to cast all of them
>tfw he'll be PM4, PM5 tops.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:21:59 No.50364906 Report

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>>50364876
that gets better

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:22:23 No.50364910 Report

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>>50364892
Judging by his profile...
777
>Tzeentch's lucky number.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:22:31 No.50364912 Report

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>>50364865
>(7+7+8+7+7+7+6+10+4)/9=7

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:22:44 No.50364915 Report

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>>50364886
Well the Sisters fuck his chances of manifesting and nullify his warp charges, the only benefit of the Assassin is shooting his brain bullets back at him.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:23:04 No.50364921 Report

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>>50364910
WRONGGGGGGGG
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tzeentch

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:23:25 No.50364923 Report

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>>50364906
Fatweaver + Grimore of True Names
2++

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:23:54 No.50364930 Report

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>>50364910
Damn, that's lower than a Lord of Skulls.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:24:31 No.50364937 Report

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>>50364878
TELL ME ABOUT MAGNUS
WHY DOES HE CAST THE SPELLS

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:25:45 No.50364949 Report

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>>50364869
They look cool, that 's good right?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:25:55 No.50364952 Report

Quoted By: >>50364967 >>50364990 >>50365006 >>50365012

>>50364809
>Stomped by a stormsurge

Amazing.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:26:20 No.50364957 Report

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>>50364915
-1 warp charge isn't that scary and getting tzeentch daemon allies in addition to his own FOC means he'll have at least 16+d6 warp charges. good luck getting close enough to turn off his blessings though

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:26:25 No.50364960 Report

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>>50364930
It's why Khornes so mad.
All his dudes cost 8× too much.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:27:13 No.50364967 Report

Quoted By: >>50364980 >>50364981 >>50364990

>>50364952
Pretty sure he'll have EW.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:27:47 No.50364972 Report

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>>50364869
They're very tough to use solo. Best when they have some beefy allies to provide distraction.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:28:23 No.50364980 Report

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>>50364967
EW doesn't stop a six on the stomp table.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:28:24 No.50364981 Report

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>>50364967
So?

That doesn't mean shit on a 6

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:28:32 No.50364984 Report

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>>50364937
>50364937
4 uuuuuu

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:29:05 No.50364990 Report

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>>50364952
>implying the stormsurge will survive long enough in close combat to attempt a stomp
>>50364967
EW doesn't work against sixes on the stomp table

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:29:11 No.50364996 Report

Quoted By: >>50365056

What Leman Russes would you guys recommend as the Core choice for a Cadian Battlegroup?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:07 No.50365006 Report

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>>50364952
>stormsurge
>tankshocked by a rhino
Amazing

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:16 No.50365007 Report

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>>50364980
>>50364981
Oh right, fuck I'm dumb.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:20 No.50365009 Report

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>>50364949
It's a definite point in their favor.

>>50364972
So slowly getting four "start collecting" boxes + an extra box of scions to create an army consisting of a command squad with a commisar attatched and three ten man scion squads all loaded in Taruoxs is basically "bad idea" incarnate?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:27 No.50365012 Report

Quoted By: >>50365043 >>50365499

>>50364952
But there is another way.
>has access to all the new tzeentch spells
>one allows you to determine the outcome of a single dice roll
>one is a strength D beam
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:30:29 No.50365013 Report

Quoted By: >>50365023 >>50365032 >>50366421 >>50366442

>>50364809
Does he lose to smashfucker in single combat?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:31:30 No.50365023 Report

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>>50365013
Depends if he has the D in melee

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:32:22 No.50365032 Report

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>>50365013
Unless he has a strength D weapon, then yes.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:33:30 No.50365039 Report

Quoted By: >>50365080 >>50365103

>>50364809
>This can be bolstered further when included as part of a dedicated Thousand Sons Detachment
Thousand sons are gonna get bonuses to their invul arent they. Thousand sons are gonna have a 3+ invul on all their dudes, emperor preserve us

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:33:51 No.50365043 Report

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>>50365012
Auto six D table.

Can't wait for that.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:34:21 No.50365051 Report

Quoted By: >>50365132

>>50365009
Could be worse.

>4 Hell-It's-Raining-Men Brigades
- 4 Suicide Scions with Meltas that respawn
- 4 Special Weapon×4 Command Squads, also Deep Striking, also dying, but not coming back.
- 4 Tauroxes armed with Missile Launchers and Autocannons
- Commissars "inspiring" their men inside the Tauroxes.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:34:41 No.50365056 Report

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>>50364996
Commander punisher, buddy exterminator
exterminator
executioner
battle tank

move the commander's squad and the exterminator together and fuck up literally everything, use exectioner and battle tank as needed

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:35:54 No.50365063 Report

Quoted By: >>50365094

>tfw being a Space Wolves player who is going to start a Thousand Sons army with the new releases

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:37:54 No.50365075 Report

Quoted By: >>50365089 >>50365104

Is leman Russ going to come back for the final battle on fenris?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:38:10 No.50365080 Report

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>>50365039
Meh. Nothing more than a stormshield, only difference is they can reroll 1s. And it's going to be a slow as fuck army, seeing as it's 1k sons, so they need that extra survivability to have any chance to win.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:38:43 No.50365089 Report

Quoted By: >>50365147

>>50365075
Nah Lion is tho.
Hell he's already there. Just napping.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:39:03 No.50365094 Report

Quoted By: >>50365102 >>50365130

>>50365063

You can run a campaign or intro scenario to get people into 40k, if you own both armies.

Are you going to get the Magnus model, btw? He's a big guy.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:39:41 No.50365102 Report

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>>50365094

UUUU

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:39:41 No.50365103 Report

Quoted By: >>50365134 >>50365719

>>50365039
MFW when TSons becomes top tier and the rest of Chaos is left to nourish ourselves with whatever tears they didn't drink.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:39:41 No.50365104 Report

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>>50365075
No. It'll either be girlyman or the lion.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:40:27 No.50365115 Report

Quoted By: >>50366259

>>50364782
>mfw the fell handed guy from BoP is going to be Bjorn anew when he returns full body and kicks Magnus so hard it comes back screaming to the warp.
I can see it as clear as day

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:40:53 No.50365120 Report

Quoted By: >>50365175 >>50365195

>>50364809
It is my goal to kill him with either The Imperial Space Marine or one of my Culexeus assassins.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:41:30 No.50365130 Report

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>>50365094
likely not, I dont field any lords of war with my current army, I wish they went with the smaller dreadknight sized version instead

I do love me some terminators though and the rubric termies look great, wonder how many I can take

Ahriman seemed to be pretty good prior to this update, wonder how his rules are going to change for better or worse

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:41:44 No.50365132 Report

Quoted By: >>50365162

>>50365051
Once played match with 2x Hellrains and a bit... wonky reading of rules: Tauroxes also respawned. One of the funniest matches I've played in years. Opponents deathstar was killing squad after squad of Scions but they just kept coming back, deepstriking in with new truck. I started the game with 4 tauroxes. Battle ended with 11 taurox hulls on the battlefield.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:42:22 No.50365134 Report

Quoted By: >>50365377

>>50365103
>MFW when
>my face when when

> TSons becomes top tier
High mid tier is more likely. Something around the same level as crons or ad mech. They sure as hell aren't beating any of the top three, unless they get some extremely bullshit formations.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:43:43 No.50365147 Report

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>>50365089
My buddy that plays space wolves is getting a little salty about this.
>mfw I'm trying not to laugh at his furry army getting their home world wrecked
>mfw russ isn't coming back
>mfw but it's the wolf time QQ

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:45:26 No.50365162 Report

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>>50365132
>Guard winning by drowning their enemies in bodies.

I like it!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:46:32 No.50365175 Report

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>>50365120
Culexus, you can bet your ass he's going to have EW.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:48:52 No.50365195 Report

Quoted By: >>50365300 >>50365328

>>50365120
Can you throw Psyk-out Grenades?
They're listed as Defensive grenades.

If so his invulnerable means nothing vs Perils.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:48:54 No.50365196 Report

Quoted By: >>50365232 >>50365237 >>50365340

If they're bringing back the Primarchs in big number then I'm going to feel really bad for NL and IH players.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:52:36 No.50365231 Report

Quoted By: >>50365245 >>50365295 >>50366984

WHAT THE FUCKING FLIPPING MOTHER OF GOD DAMN FUCK GW

>on Canadian website
>fucking thing isn't loading and wondering why
>check right now
>THEY INCREASED THE PRICES TO EVERYTHING
>Deldar Scourges, went from 30 bux to 41
>Deldar warriors 30 - 48

Im sure the rest of the armies are bad as well but what the fuck GW way to fuck over Canada

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:52:42 No.50365232 Report

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>>50365196

It's kind of pathetic how they try and make fenrrus manus revelant to the HH despite dying in its opening stages

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:52:54 No.50365237 Report

Quoted By: >>50365248 >>50365258 >>50365264

>>50365196

Black Legion and Blood Angels lost their primarchs too

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:54:08 No.50365245 Report

Quoted By: >>50365265 >>50365289 >>50365295

>>50365231

They increased the prices to all start collecting boxes to 140$

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:54:17 No.50365248 Report

Quoted By: >>50365321 >>50365454

>>50365237

At least they lost theirs in dramatic circumstances. Manus just gets ended by Fulgrim, and Kurze just gets...killed.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:55:06 No.50365258 Report

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>>50365237
Alpha Legion too, apparently.

Dorn plays for keeps.

And so did the Imperial Fists

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:55:56 No.50365264 Report

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>>50365237
i still dont want to admit that sanguinius is dead.....

maybe the sanguinor will make him return.....

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:55:57 No.50365265 Report

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>>50365245

Not in Canada

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:56:19 No.50365270 Report

Quoted By: >>50365312 >>50365382 >>50365852

Magnus looks a lot better in a straight up red scheme

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:57:48 No.50365289 Report

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>>50365245
I just checked and they're 100 for me. Pics?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:58:01 No.50365295 Report

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>>50365231
>>50365245
What the fuck are you talking about, just went on the store page and set it to canada. Start collecting box 100 bucks, warriors 34.75 bucks, Scourges 30 bucks.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:58:34 No.50365300 Report

Quoted By: >>50367223

>>50365195
he probably ignores perils, gonna have to try harder to kill him loyalist

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 18:59:26 No.50365312 Report

Quoted By: >>50365323 >>50365330 >>50365331 >>50365345

>>50365270
You know, being an all power psycher and Daemon Primarch of Tzeentch I'd think he could chose what he looks like. Why would he want to look like goofy daemon man and not like himself?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:00:26 No.50365321 Report

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>>50365248
sanguinius just Gets ended by Horus, and Horus just gets...obliterated

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:00:43 No.50365323 Report

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>>50365312
Because gee dubs have a currently ongoing mega-hardon for Xbawks hueg models.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:01:05 No.50365328 Report

Quoted By: >>50365517

>>50365195
looks like that's the play. -3 Ld on a perils is pretty spooky

He'd also get wrecked by a shadowseer with Mirror of Minds and a -2Ld provided he fails the DtW

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:01:23 No.50365330 Report

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>>50365312
Well he was already red, so why not give himself wings?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:01:23 No.50365331 Report

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>>50365312
Because he's a geek

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:01:37 No.50365335 Report

Quoted By: >>50365354 >>50365369 >>50365387 >>50367371 >>50368443

The fact that a 300 points Wraithknight can oneshot Magnus in close combat is proof that GW needs to fix superheavies.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:02:09 No.50365340 Report

Quoted By: >>50365469

>>50365196

Because the British have so much respect for the significance of a character's death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6k5Qc1Qb4I

> 2 years later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MExPjyXTrBk

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:02:42 No.50365345 Report

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>>50365312
>himself
>Implying there's a difference

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:03:44 No.50365354 Report

Quoted By: >>50365376

>>50365335
Maybe in 8th they'll make it so in order to play 40k you have to melt down your Superheavies into a fine molten plastic goo and slather it all over your remaining models.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:04:55 No.50365366 Report

Quoted By: >>50365434 >>50365445

considering the post on the community site mentions the detatchment improving on magnus 4++ or reroll saves of 1's:

what if the detatchment grants everyone a +1 on the invulnerable save? that would make a whole TS army running around with 3++

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:05:16 No.50365369 Report

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>>50365335
Holding things to the standard of the wraithknight is a bad idea.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:05:52 No.50365376 Report

Quoted By: >>50365393

>>50365354
I'd settle for Lord of War needing opponent's permission.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:06:12 No.50365377 Report

Quoted By: >>50368224 >>50368529

>>50365134
Crons and AD mech aren't much lower than the top three in rankings in large scale tournaments. It'd closer to a top 7 reality.

Those being Space Marines, Eldar, Chaos Daemons, Necrons, AD mech, Tau, Imperial Knights. Knights being lowest on the totem pole.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:06:31 No.50365382 Report

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>>50365270
Nipple
Horns

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:07:02 No.50365387 Report

Quoted By: >>50365401

>>50365335

superheavies are poorly designed trash and they should've stayed in the poorly designed trash format, apocalypse, they came from

but no, gotta sell those 100+ dollar models

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:07:51 No.50365393 Report

Quoted By: >>50365452 >>50365480

>>50365376
>needing opponent's permission.

Are you five years old?
You choose what to play against.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:08:33 No.50365401 Report

Quoted By: >>50365409 >>50365495

>>50365387
As a DE player I'm envious there are super heavies in other armies while we get left out.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:09:31 No.50365409 Report

Quoted By: >>50365490 >>50365542

>>50365401

Why don't you ally in some Wraithknights, then? they're Battle-Brother armies!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:10:12 No.50365417 Report

Quoted By: >>50365464

How would people feel if for glances they only removed a hull point on a 6 while something like 4 and 5s are shaken and stunned? Keep penetrative hits the same

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:10:17 No.50365420 Report

Quoted By: >>50365435 >>50365440 >>50365447 >>50365472 >>50365506 >>50365569 >>50365734

I'm hoping they do something different with the primarchs for 40k, Instead of the ridiculous machines they are in 30k i'd rather they showed that 10,000 years has changed them somewhat.

If Russ comes back and he's exactly the same as 30k then what's the point?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:11:57 No.50365434 Report

Quoted By: >>50365461 >>50366062 >>50366915 >>50367092

>>50365366

generic thousand sons marine:

>5++ for aura of dark glory
>+1 for mark of tzeentch
>+1 for detachment bonus
>+1 for primaris power

>armywide 2++ invuln save

do you hear that? it's the sound of loyalists and eldar getting btfo

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:12:02 No.50365435 Report

Quoted By: >>50365734

>>50365420
>If Russ comes back and he's exactly the same as 30k then what's the point?

So let him come back as a roided out Wulfen Primarch.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:12:38 No.50365440 Report

Quoted By: >>50365470 >>50365524 >>50365584 >>50365734

>>50365420

Well at this point, Russ is either dead or a literal wolf-monster so at least he should look a bit different.
> His armour upon a Khornate altar

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:12:54 No.50365445 Report

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>>50365366
There was a rumored psychic power posted here yesterday that increased a units invul by 2

>2++ terminators

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:01 No.50365447 Report

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>>50365420
I just want to see Angron. If only the assault tables wouldn't fuck him over at every turn.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:31 No.50365452 Report

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>>50365393
The point is making it "opponents permission" the official stance filters it out of most list building so I don't have to be "that guy" and they just generally show up less. I don't mind the occasional game with them, but I'd rather they be rare and I don't like being a list nazi when I'm trying to get a game at the flgs.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:34 No.50365454 Report

Quoted By: >>50365471 >>50365528

>>50365248
I am still so confused, like, why the FUCK didn't Kurze just pull apart the assassin? He's a friggen primarch.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:50 No.50365459 Report

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STOMP against a FLYING monstrous creature? OK

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:13:53 No.50365461 Report

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>>50365434

> When Thousand Sons are not only usable, but actually OP

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:14:14 No.50365464 Report

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>>50365417

the AV system is shit and makes no sense to begin with

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:14:31 No.50365469 Report

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>>50365340
At least they waited for 2 years instead of 2 minutes.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:14:32 No.50365470 Report

Quoted By: >>50365734

>>50365440
>His armour upon a Khornate altar
Wulfen don't wear as much armour, so Leman probably dropped it when he became Wulfen Russ

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:14:37 No.50365471 Report

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>>50365454
He wanted to die.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:14:38 No.50365472 Report

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>>50365420
meh i don't mind either way
russ is probably gonna be full on furry at this point but i hope the other loyalist ones stay the same
kinda wondering what daemon lorgar and perty will look like though i hope something other than generic daemon prince on roids

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:15:16 No.50365480 Report

Quoted By: >>50365511

>>50365393
That's literally the same thing you autist.

You ask permission to make sure your opponent will still want to play against you if you use a low.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:16:19 No.50365490 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365409
Because I like to keep it a mix of DE and Coven books only. I've seen some really awesome writhe ight conversions for a DE army but, if I'm going to run CWE I might as well quite playing DE as there codex is that good.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:16:42 No.50365495 Report

Quoted By: >>50365529

>>50365401
>tyranids are literally described in the rulebook as being the army full of gargantuan monstrous creatures

>they can't field any gargantuan monstrous creatures

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:17:02 No.50365499 Report

Quoted By: >>50365613

>>50365012

So the rumour trolls were BTFO about Magnus, but you still believe them about the psychic powers?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:17:09 No.50365500 Report

Quoted By: >>50366087

>magnus knows 15 powers
>6 new powers leaves 9 left
>NINE
>ML9 incoming

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:17:21 No.50365506 Report

Quoted By: >>50365734

>>50365420
I really hope he comes back as a giant werewolf monster

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:17:50 No.50365511 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365480
>That's literally the same thing you autist.

That's the point I was making you retard.
You don't need a rule to not play against someone.
If you don't want to play against Magnus then don't play against Magnus.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:18:13 No.50365517 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365328
daemon of tzeentch get +3 ld on the perils table

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:18:51 No.50365524 Report

Quoted By: >>50365734

>>50365440
Russ comes back and is hunted downs for heresy

Lorgar comes back and everyone wants his autograph because they love his book.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:19:15 No.50365528 Report

Quoted By: >>50365577

>>50365454
He wanted to die a hero, instead of living long enough to become the villain

He was the hero this galaxy deserved, but not the one it wanted.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:19:24 No.50365529 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365495
Hopefully they will get at least two I'm their next book or supplement. My brother plays Nids and I would love to see that army get a buff. I started a GSC so I could ally with him for fun in twin linked matches

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:21:23 No.50365542 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365409
Probably because anon would like to have a Lord of war SH/GC unit like any one else, even orkz have them why not a gargantuan flesh construct?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:22:15 No.50365552 Report

Quoted By: >>50365655 >>50365710 >>50365868

>>50364782
Why is the new Imperial Guard decurion-style formation such shit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:22:38 No.50365556 Report

Quoted By: >>50365572 >>50365592

Where are the Black Friday sales, GW

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:23:39 No.50365569 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365420
That's because he traveled to the future, that's also why the SW didn't find him during the great hunts

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:23:57 No.50365572 Report

Quoted By: >>50365576

>>50365556
That's more a burger thing than a bong thing.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:24:22 No.50365576 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365572
They did it last year, although they were pretty shit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:24:26 No.50365577 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365528
no anon he realized he'd become a fucking villain and was leading a legion of the fuckbois that he fought so hard to eradicate on nostramo
him getting killed by the assassin meant that the visions that haunted him were real and he didn't do all that murdering for nothing

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:24:51 No.50365584 Report

Quoted By: >>50365734

>>50365440
>or a literal wolf-monster
I can already see it. Fucking wraithknight sized kaiju-wolf all warped and crazy.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:25:50 No.50365592 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365556

IIRC, last year's black Friday offers were terrible.
You saved about €5 on bundles that were €120.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:27:26 No.50365613 Report

Quoted By: >>50365712

>>50365499
>So the rumour trolls were BTFO about Magnus
What?
You mean the ones saying Magnus was coming to 40?

Yeah, fuck those guys.
They don't know anything!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:28:26 No.50365623 Report

Quoted By: >>50365649 >>50365682 >>50365689 >>50365772 >>50365807 >>50365826

Of all the rules in current 40k, the "morale standards" is the one I hate the most.

See this is because the game comes from a bunch of basement dwellers, playing tight games with deep lore, and they thought everyone else would do the same. And this way of thinking has colored the way of thinking about 40k to this day.

"Its ok to take option A, but not in conjunction with model B or C"

"Well, you could play with that army, but no one would play you, because your then a dick! I'm only telling you this, because I'm such a good sportsman."

"Its ok to follow rules, just not THOSE rules"

"Letting your opponent cheat every once in a while is considered good sportsmanship"

"You can win, but not that many times in a row, therefore you're playing cheesy!"

I could go on, but in the end its just a horrid community. One must abide to the local meta and roll with it I guess.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:30:21 No.50365635 Report

Quoted By:

>>50364782
Does anyone have the raven guard codex supplement or the echoes of war loss book kicking about?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:31:25 No.50365649 Report

Quoted By: >>50365680

>>50365623
What?

I play DE who struck a deal with Khorne Demons to dick over slaanesh
How many rules did I break?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:32:07 No.50365655 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365552
Which formation you talking about?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:32:57 No.50365665 Report

Quoted By:

I'm home for the holiday at my parents' house and found my old metal Witchhunters and Daemonhunters :^), Tyranids, and Eldar. All painted a little splotchy.

Are these worth anything?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:34:23 No.50365680 Report

Quoted By: >>50365701

>>50365649
>dark elder fucking with chaos

What the fuck, no

>dark eldar fucking with chaos to fuck over slaneesh and maybe get turned into daemons of Khorne instead of getting eaten by slaneesh when they die

Iguess.jpg

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:34:28 No.50365682 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365623
The "moral standards" aren't rules of 40k. And just play with what you want, who's stopping you?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:35:09 No.50365689 Report

Quoted By: >>50365702 >>50365725

>>50365623
it's almost like the designers made it casually, didn't bother to balance it against older books, play test it, have a dozen different ideas on balance, and have to make sales

as for morale most armies ignore it or suffer heavily from it. perhaps instead of the unit running they lose X number of members by how much they fail. 4 guardians killed and they lose morale by 2 so only 2 more run

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:36:29 No.50365701 Report

Quoted By: >>50365714 >>50365728

>>50365680

You could combine Harlequins, Dark Eldar and Craftworld Hemlocks for mass Ld reduction.
Then combine them with Slaanesh and spam Psychic Screams.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:36:30 No.50365702 Report

Quoted By: >>50365725

>>50365689
>as for morale most armies ignore it or suffer heavily from it. perhaps instead of the unit running they lose X number of members by how much they fail. 4 guardians killed and they lose morale by 2 so only 2 more run

That's not the kind of morale rules he was talking about, anon

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:37:19 No.50365710 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365552

In the book it was released with, they were jobbing to Tau.
Good formations are:
>Emperor's fist Tank company
>Psykana division
>Emperor's blade Nearly the same as an IG mechanized CAD, with more benefits.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:37:28 No.50365712 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365613

The ones who over the last few days completely invented his statline.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:37:34 No.50365714 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365701
>combine them with slaneesh

H E R E S Y

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:38:19 No.50365719 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365103
Yeah, improving their 4++ to a 3++ will surely catapult them to the top of the shitheap that is the 40k competitive meta. Scatbikes look out!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:38:35 No.50365725 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365689
>>50365702
Moral not morale, as in right and wrong, good and evil, etc.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:38:53 No.50365728 Report

Quoted By: >>50366071

>>50365701
Has anyone seen this freakshow army in play? It seems sorta wonky and tacked together

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:39:40 No.50365734 Report

Quoted By: >>50365816

>>50365584
>>50365524
>>50365506
>>50365470
>>50365440
>>50365435
>>50365420
>people that never bothered to read or heard and audio book making assumptions
The last time he was "saw" was in the audio book when a wolf guard is hunting a wulfen, he had a vision of the primarch were he talk to him, he was full Conan mode, living in some ice cave with the retinue he had when he left Fenris.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:40:33 No.50365746 Report

Quoted By:

So let's see
>Ahriman
>1 squad of Rubrics
>1 squad of Scarab Terms
Apart from that the only things i'm wondering is preordering the limited edition, assuming i can get to it while at work

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:42:29 No.50365772 Report

Quoted By: >>50365838 >>50365866

>>50365623
The problem is that a game WILL be balanced. The only question is whether the attempt will be made by the community or the people actually paid to make the game. Until 40k can be played out of the box this will continue.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:42:32 No.50365773 Report

Quoted By: >>50365793 >>50365813

As a Space Wolves player I'm not too bothered by this entire thing. I have embraced 30k instead which is superior to 40k.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:44:38 No.50365793 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365773

Just waiting on Inferno now.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:45:27 No.50365807 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365623
If you're looking for tight rules that let you freely be cutthroat Warmachine would probably be more to your liking.

GW has never lost their insistence that the make "beer and pretzel" games, even at the times they gives nods to the competitive scene. That basically requires some form of comp to avoid things getting stupid.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:45:57 No.50365813 Report

Quoted By: >>50365895

>>50365773
>switching over from being the good guys to being the bad guys

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:46:02 No.50365816 Report

Quoted By: >>50366194

>>50365734
>vision
Because all visions in 40K are always right.

Ask Farwoopser Eldrad

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:46:34 No.50365826 Report

Quoted By: >>50365848 >>50366120 >>50366262

>>50365623
>"Letting your opponent cheat every once in a while is considered good sportsmanship"

What did he mean by this?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:47:50 No.50365838 Report

Quoted By: >>50365869

>>50365772
40k isn't balanced. If you want people to be able to make choices on what they bring to the field it will never truly be either. Which is fine with me. Let people do the work to research what to build and play or let them play the fluffy lists contain minis they love. If they attempt to normalize all the armies it will make the game dull and boring. Screw "balance" chaos reigns

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:48:30 No.50365848 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365826
I guess he means not being a stickler about peiple fudging movement distances and such.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:48:47 No.50365852 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365270
Needs more horns tbqh f a m

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:49:51 No.50365863 Report

Quoted By: >>50365882

>>50364816
I use older Nurglings that weren't all stacked up. I'm not re-building the fuckers to be taller. I say Brimstone Horrers are plenty tall if you want to count them as Nurglings.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:50:00 No.50365864 Report

Quoted By: >>50365877 >>50365907 >>50365912

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/23/wrath-of-magnus-the-big-guy-himself/

magnus rules

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:50:07 No.50365866 Report

Quoted By: >>50365944

>>50365772
The game could be more balanced, but it will never be fully balanced without being symmetrical. And even then someone gets the first turn.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:50:21 No.50365868 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365552
It wouldn't be so bad if Infantry Platoon version of Emp's Shield and Assault Company were core.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:50:22 No.50365869 Report

Quoted By: >>50366282

>>50365838
>If they attempt to normalize all the armies it will make the game dull and boring

You mean all the 7e codices prior to the "7.5" Necrons that started the Decurison train?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:51:10 No.50365877 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365864
>magnus rules
Nah, he drools

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:51:33 No.50365882 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365863
Thanks for the feedback!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:52:33 No.50365895 Report

Quoted By: >>50365924 >>50365931

>>50365813
There are no good guys in in this setting.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:53:36 No.50365907 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365864
Check the third post

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:54:18 No.50365912 Report

Quoted By: >>50365933

>>50365864

I guess it's safe to assume that it has EW.
Will he be a another Fateweaver or psychic close-combat powerhouse?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:55:57 No.50365924 Report

Quoted By: >>50365942 >>50366009 >>50366078 >>50366091

>>50365895
Eldar (CW and Harlequin) act strictly defensively. Even dark eldar are fighting strictly to keep themselves alive.

All other factions are evil by nature, consuming by nature, or expansionists that want to destroy everything that isn't them.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:56:27 No.50365931 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365895
only good girls

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:56:30 No.50365933 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365912
GW site updates on Saturday right?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:57:38 No.50365942 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365924
Eldar are huge fucking assholes.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:57:58 No.50365944 Report

Quoted By: >>50366322

>>50365866
Exactly. I think calls for balance are players that can't figure out how their faction needs to play and how to build " balanced" lists. Even then the game still has an element of certain lists will counter other lists. Once again 40k was never intended to be balanced.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 19:59:33 No.50365969 Report

Quoted By: >>50365988 >>50366001

hey /tg/ has anyone tried to recreate the survival mode from dawn of war 2 in the tabletop game. Me and my friends are spitballing ideas around and are wondering if a halfway decent system already exists.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:01:38 No.50365988 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365969
use kill team rules except with HQs and one person controls the enemy using normal kill team rules, maybe buff the HQ;s a bit

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:03:50 No.50366001 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365969

Kill team rules, give Heroes It Will Not Die rule.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:04:54 No.50366009 Report

Quoted By: >>50366023 >>50366050

>>50365924
Eldar were so evil that they birthed literal chaos god into existence and now they have to reap what they sowed.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:06:25 No.50366023 Report

Quoted By: >>50366060

>>50366009
They wanted to fix this by birthing another malign entity into existence.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:08:43 No.50366050 Report

Quoted By: >>50366073 >>50366080

>>50366009
Evil? It came from their lax, pleasure-seeking ways, not because they were "evil"

That's like saying modern man is evil because we enjoy such a high quality of life

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:09:43 No.50366060 Report

Quoted By: >>50366108

>>50366023

I honestly can't tell if you're continuing to list reasons why Eldar are the fucking worst things ever, or if you're a blind fanboy.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:09:59 No.50366062 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365434
it could be possible to still have the maximum of 3++ with mark of tzeentch.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:10:38 No.50366071 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365728
I play a freakshow army
It's wonky but it's fun. Every unit has a purpose and has to work in perfect harmony to achieve anything.
It's not *great* but it's fun

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:10:49 No.50366073 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366050

Slaanesh is not lax and pleasure seeking. Chaos Gods are made of equivalent thoughts, so if Slaanesh is THAT FUCKED UP, then the Eldar who made him had to be AT LEAST as fucked up as that.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:11:19 No.50366078 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365924
hahahahahAHAHHAHAHAHA
>average eldar players

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:11:30 No.50366080 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366050
The Eldar didn't birth Slaanesh by sitting around smoking pot and eating tacos dude. You can use all the euphemisms you like, but they were into some twisted shit. Remember Dark Eldar the the remnants of the homeworld survivors.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:11:40 No.50366081 Report

Quoted By:

>>50364809

>Monstrous Creature

Well, well, well

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:12:01 No.50366087 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365500
7 new powers. you forgot about the primaris aswell as his gaze of magnus. thats 7 left. either his is ML 7 and generates 7 powers, which i doubt or:

he also has the 7 tzeentch chaos daemon powers as he is a daemon of tzeentch allready i bet on that.

thats 15 powers in total

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:12:17 No.50366091 Report

Quoted By: >>50366151 >>50366192

>>50365924
The Dark Eldar are cruel and evil not because they need to, but because they like it.

I can understand Chaos evil, it's corruption and anarchy flowing from another dimension, fair enough. But the dark eldar have a whole culture that normalizes violence and cruelty for their own sakes.

I fucking hate the dark eldar

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:13:50 No.50366108 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366060
No, I think Eldar is a blight on the galaxy. At least the Dark Eldar doesn't try to hide this fact.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:15:00 No.50366120 Report

Quoted By: >>50366138

>>50365826
Not him, but playgroups get up to some weird shit. I ruffled a bunch of locals' feathers when I called out my opponent for fudging his dice during a pick-up-game at a store I visited. Turns out pretty much everyone already knew, nobody was willing to confront him about it for fear of causing a scene.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:16:06 No.50366128 Report

Quoted By: >>50366146 >>50366190

Wanna know who is evil? Every damn faction in 40k to some extent. No one faction are goody two shoes

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:16:49 No.50366138 Report

Quoted By: >>50366162

>>50366120
Does that come down to good sportsmanship or does it come down to the fact that half of us are anti social neck beards?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:17:36 No.50366145 Report

Quoted By: >>50366161

No longer a Cyclops. Fuck my fee fees.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:17:51 No.50366146 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366128
Thats Heresy the emperor could never be involved with evil!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:18:10 No.50366151 Report

Quoted By: >>50366264 >>50366395

>>50366091
I love the Dark Eldar. I think they are one of the funniest joke factions in the setting after the Orks.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:18:45 No.50366157 Report

Quoted By: >>50366199 >>50366211 >>50366213 >>50366256

>>50364782

So as an old player who abandoned ship at the end of 5th, I'm curious about rejoining the game. I'm well up to date with all the bullshit formations and death of the FOC. However I'd appreciate some advice about jumping back into the game.

Specifically, which army should I go for?
I'm sufficiently into the fluff that I find all of the factions appealing on some level. I'm more concerned with the playstyle. What I want:

> Melee & close-ranged shooting
> Fucking mental damage output
> High speed / mobility
> Glass cannon approach, just removing fistfuls of models every turn
> 'Hard to play', 'Skilled' etc. All the buzzwords that mean I didn't just drop Riptides on the table.
> Sufficient internal balance that I can write my own lists without cookie-cutter templates
> Minimal reliance on allies or non-fluffy army selection choices

I'm mostly looking at Harlequins, Genestealers or Daemons/Renegades at present. These seem to be about where I am aiming.
- Are these sufficiently powerful that I can play tourneys with them?
- Can I play against Riptides, ScatterKnights, Decurions etc.?
- Any general comments about the armies and fun bits

Any help is very much appreciated.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:19:16 No.50366161 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366145
he comes with 3 head options. cyclops, with a mask and the one you see on the picture.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:19:18 No.50366162 Report

Quoted By: >>50366241

>>50366138
Eh, I think a lot of people end up with this really twisted idea that sportsmanship means letting shit slide. Whether its being a couple points over or playing fast and loose with measurements or fudging the dice a bit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:21:30 No.50366190 Report

Quoted By: >>50366210 >>50366245

>>50366128

There was an IG vet sergeant in the 5th edition codex who, in fluff, seemed like an 80s action hero. Bastionne was his name, I think?
That's the closest I can think of regarding "good guys".

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:21:43 No.50366192 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366091
they need to harvest souls to live. How pleasant of a culture does that lend itself to?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:21:49 No.50366194 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365816
>Because all visions in 40K are always right.
Only if you aren't xenos

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:22:00 No.50366199 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366157
Harlies are super cookie cutter. They're also just too flimsy/elite to really compete at the upper levels.

Genestealers are top tier.

Daemons and Renegades and Heretics are both competitive, but fairly limited in what builds are actually viable at upper levels of play. Daemons pretty much need to use mass FMC and Summoning, while Renegades need to spam super cheap respawning bodies coupled with stupid cheap artillery.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:22:35 No.50366207 Report

Quoted By:

So im just returning to the hobby and I am looking to build Astra Militarum. Anyone got any tips before I start?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:23:06 No.50366210 Report

Quoted By: >>50366222 >>50366245

>>50366190
you're thinking of Sly Marbo who was literally just a rip off of Rambo.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:23:09 No.50366211 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366157
Consider Eldar

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:23:17 No.50366213 Report

Quoted By: >>50366227 >>50366231

>>50366157
Maybe DEldar? They're hard to play, made of glass, can fuck up Riptides, and are the fastest army in the game.

I've never actually played against a DEldar army (They're pretty rare), but they're pretty cool and looked upon favorably by most players. I know you said you don't want allies, but you could have the Harlequins with them (Harlequins aren't really playable without allies anyways IMO).

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:23:41 No.50366216 Report

Quoted By: >>50366238 >>50366239 >>50366257

So now that CSM are getting fixed, who is next?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:24:37 No.50366222 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366210
He is so on the nose that I consider him a homage.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:24:51 No.50366227 Report

Quoted By: >>50366298

>>50366213
>and looked upon favorably by most players
Because they're weak

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:25:10 No.50366231 Report

Quoted By: >>50366298 >>50366303

>>50366213
Damn. I was actually thinking about going Dark Eldar. They look cool as fuck. Would harlequins benefit them a lot?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:25:53 No.50366238 Report

Quoted By: >>50366280 >>50366300

>>50366216
Nids, Orks, or IG. The first two because they're CSM levels of bad and IG because they're still in 6th.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:25:54 No.50366239 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366216
I expect Orks soon after 8th. They usually get updated early in the cycle.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:26:09 No.50366241 Report

Quoted By: >>50366278

>>50366162
See i can understand letting the like 5 points over slide but any more is outrageous. I wouldnt call that good sportsmanship tho i'd chalk that up to number crunching getting a bit hard at higher points. Now the other two are blatant cheating and should probably be called out.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:26:26 No.50366245 Report

Quoted By: >>50366283

>>50366190
>>50366210
No, Bastionne was correct. He was an upgrade for a squad and had a rule name along the lines of "By Any Means"
Dude had a massive scar and was originally highborn

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:27:29 No.50366256 Report

Quoted By: >>50366340

>>50366157

>High damage output
>High speed
>Glass cannon

Looks like you need to take a trip to Commoragh, senpai.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:27:33 No.50366257 Report

Quoted By: >>50366273

>>50366216
>t CSM are getting fixed
This is the fourth supplement for CSM this year, and every single previous supplement has been a rehashed pile of mediocrity that failed to substantially improve CSM or give us meaningful options. What makes you think this book will be any different?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:27:38 No.50366259 Report

Quoted By: >>50366348

>>50365115
As another SW anon, don't be so fucking retarded.
We're lucky Bjorn's not getting destroyed by having Logan thrown into him.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:28:00 No.50366262 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365826
Sounds like his local group is dominated by a couple of losers with big fish in a small pond syndrome.

They don't like powerful armies as theirs are currently a bit more powerful than other peoples.
They don't like it when people point out that they're cheating.
Etc.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:28:08 No.50366264 Report

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>>50366151
There's a really great short story about an old Archon trying to win over a powerful elf lady and how clueless he is.

I think it's in that Fear the Alien book

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:28:51 No.50366273 Report

Quoted By: >>50366315 >>50366371

>>50366257
>What makes you think this book will be any different?
This >>50364809

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:29:23 No.50366278 Report

Quoted By: >>50366320

>>50366241
I'd probably let a couple points slide because it's not worth the hassle although you bet your ass I'm going full dickmode with power generation and playstyle, but there's no reason not to just drop an upgrade and drop below the point limit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:29:32 No.50366280 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366238
>IG because they're still in 6th.
A couple weeks doesn't really count.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:29:45 No.50366282 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365869
No because you'll still get idiots that take armies that have no way to deal with high AV, armies without good objective grabbers, etc.

Then they bitch that the game is unfair.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:29:55 No.50366283 Report

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>>50366245
but bastonne isn't really an 80's an action hero maybe he was thinking of straken.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:30:13 No.50366287 Report

Quoted By: >>50366312 >>50366363

Where can I find the Deathwatch Codex in pdf?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:31:40 No.50366298 Report

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>>50366227
I'd say they're mid tier. They won't beat a Reclamation Legion or double Demi-Companies in a straight up fight, but they'll do fine against most armies if played well.

>>50366231

Harlequins themselves are fairly similar to DEldar, but generally speaking stronger and more costly. If you find your enemy has a strong central unit you need to take down Harlequins have a better chance of killing it well your DEldar pick off the weaker guys.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:31:49 No.50366300 Report

Quoted By: >>50366332

>>50366238
Arent nids still in 6th also?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:32:03 No.50366303 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366231
Yes, they're pretty good allies.

Dark eldar bring some long range firepower to blow away chaff and vehicles while harlies strike at the elite units DE can't crack.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:32:22 No.50366312 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366287
>pdf

Get with the times, grandpa!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:32:40 No.50366315 Report

Quoted By: >>50366364 >>50366397 >>50366470

>>50366273
That tells us next to nothing, other than that he matches up hilariously poorly against other mega-models since he's vulnerable to Stomps and other "remove from play" effects.

>muh 15 powers
Means nothing without knowing what those powers actually are.
>muh best psyker ever
Means nothing until we see what that means. If he's not at least a 3+ with rerolls, he's extremely unlikely to be worth the massive price tag he's going to come with from a psychic standpoint.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:33:14 No.50366320 Report

Quoted By: >>50366344

>>50366278
Yea i get where your coming from but then you got people with really intricate lists and you gotta keep a marker somewhere that tells you what guy lost what upgrade.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:33:16 No.50366321 Report

Quoted By: >>50366329 >>50366333

What is the ideal list for Dark Eldar? is the starting box good?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:33:21 No.50366322 Report

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>>50365944
What the fuck are you talking about? If that were true, the game WOULD be balanced. as it stands there are factions that are objectively superior to others, regardless of lists.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:34:14 No.50366329 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366321

Most people get 2 starter boxes and some combination of scourges and Venoms.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:34:33 No.50366332 Report

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>>50366300
Yeah. I have a friend who loves his Nids and we normally have good fun battles because I run CSM so we're both pretty shit. I'm hopeful that if Traitor Legions fixes CSM then Nids will be next if only so we remain on an even playing field.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:34:39 No.50366333 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366321
venoms and trueborn, reaver jetbikes are also fun (esp with allied eldar autarch)

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:34:53 No.50366337 Report

Quoted By:

Tyranid update fucking when ?

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:35:01 No.50366340 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366256
Except the Dark Eldar are none of these

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:35:21 No.50366344 Report

Quoted By: >>50366359

>>50366320
Nah, they're never over because of a melta bomb or something - if that was the case they'd just ditch it.

They're over because of shit they need like the last tac squad that gets them ten free razorbacks.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:35:47 No.50366348 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366259
Anon logic is long gone, just like how Krom got rules, not Bjorn might get them, just look at his wolf claw and tell me it's not like dread Bjorn claw.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:36:33 No.50366359 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366344
I wish i could get ten free razorbacks.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:36:43 No.50366363 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366287
On the internet
https://youtu.be/voc9TrSVVOA?t=1m48s";

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:36:55 No.50366364 Report

Quoted By: >>50366427

>>50366315
Isn't every basically every model vulnerable to S the D?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:37:42 No.50366371 Report

Quoted By: >>50366397

>>50366273

Throwing bullshit toys into the mix is exactly the problem.
We don't need a Win-Button that has no business appearing outside the 1, tiny faction that he is a part of. We need the fucking foundations rebuilt in a way that all of the Legions can take part with actual Legionaires, with the toys to go with their rules.

Giving a CSM Fear doesn't make him a Night Lord. He needs 30k equipment, modern-era corruption and all the toys he dropped along the way.

We need a total rethinking of how the Codex works, what the army is supposed to do, and an actual plan for the faction.
What we will get is another ~20 formations that bolt USRs onto the Legion stereotypes and cement that "Lol why are you taking Black Legion Possessed? Run them in a Word Bearers detachment!".

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:38:50 No.50366386 Report

Quoted By: >>50366461

Any good epub readers that do not require chrome?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:39:48 No.50366395 Report

Quoted By: >>50366478

>>50366151
Sounds to me like your trying to hard to justify your preferences, the DE are fucked up, cruel, sadistic and are horrible creatures, that's what makes them fun. Not funny.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:39:58 No.50366397 Report

Quoted By: >>50366459

>>50366315
You're just a faggot. >>50366371 actually put effort into their post.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:40:23 No.50366402 Report

Quoted By: >>50366423 >>50366477

>T7, 7 Wound Flying 2++ re-rollable
Seriously, GW? Is this a joke?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:41:35 No.50366413 Report

Quoted By: >>50366426

Looks like I'm doing Dark Eldar and harlequins, haha. I think I'll get 2 starter boxes, 2 venoms, and one unit of scourges. My friend told me he will go halfers on death masque with me so I get Eldick Ulthran to boot with my harlequins I'll be getting.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:42:12 No.50366421 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365013
Nope, since he probably has Force which negates FnP

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:42:26 No.50366423 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366402
Eh. He's probably 1000 points or something.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:42:32 No.50366426 Report

Quoted By: >>50366443

>>50366413

Cool dude. Now just don't spam pics of DE from the GW store in this thread like that SoB faggot.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:42:38 No.50366427 Report

Quoted By: >>50366494

>>50366364
Super-Heavies/Gargantuans are a lot less vulnerable.

It's just really odd that a model the size of Magnus and with his presumed point cost won't be a Gargantuan. Especially when he's only a 4++ base.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:44:18 No.50366442 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365013
He will ruin smashfuckers day because he's going to laugh off any psychic powers you try to buff him with and ignore FnP.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:44:19 No.50366443 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366426
I wasn't planning on it, lol. I've only ever met one Deldar player so this should be fun.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:45:57 No.50366459 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366397
Nice refutation, qualityposter. Keep up the good work.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:46:12 No.50366461 Report

Quoted By: >>50366622

>>50366386
calibre

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:46:40 No.50366470 Report

Quoted By: >>50366486 >>50366499 >>50366543

>>50366315
>since he's vulnerable to Stomps and other "remove from play" effects.
How are you going to stomp a flying MC that you can never charge?

Yeah, D weapons will fuck him up, but good luck hitting him on 6's.

He's like if you fused a Flyrant with Smashfucker and then made it the most powerful psyker in the game that can mindbullet all goddamn day.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:47:19 No.50366477 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366402
>not 432 points

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:47:19 No.50366478 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366395
No. I just view them as a comedy element.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:47:59 No.50366486 Report

Quoted By: >>50366579

>>50366470
how the fuck are you gonna hit a flying monstrous creature with blasts ?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:48:32 No.50366494 Report

Quoted By: >>50366532

>>50366427

Hopefully they realized that SH/GMC were a mistake.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:48:48 No.50366499 Report

Quoted By: >>50366558 >>50366579 >>50367172

>>50366470
>he keeps his FMC's in the air 100% of the time
Wew lad.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:51:33 No.50366532 Report

Quoted By: >>50366580 >>50366586

>>50366494
I'm skeptical that they'll have the stones to tell Imperial Knight players to fuck off back to Apocalypse where they belong, and, as long as you've got some super-heavies in the game, it's silly to throttle some faction's access to them.

Why not just make him a Gargantuan for now and then FAQ it when 8e hits? It just smacks of GW's usual half-assed, myopic stupidity with edition/design paradigm shifts.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:52:21 No.50366543 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366470
He's Fateweaver 2.0
>Higher Toughness
>More Wounds
>More Powers
>Easier to Manifest

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:53:34 No.50366558 Report

Quoted By: >>50366589 >>50366684

>>50366499
I know I keep Fatweaver up.
Granted he's WS1, I1, A1, and only T5 so there's some justification to never land.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:55:16 No.50366579 Report

Quoted By: >>50366653 >>50366657

>>50366486
That's what I just said retard.

>>50366499
>he doesn't know how to play an FMC
A good player will never glide when there are D/SH/GMC threats in range, and there's no reason you need to land Magnus to make him effective since he's a witchfire platform.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:55:17 No.50366580 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366532
they're making money, they don't give a fuck.

I don't know why anybody thinks GW makes the rules to make the game fun. They've proven time and time again the rules are there to make them money

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:55:48 No.50366586 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366532

They could nerf Stomp attacks(remove the chance of an automatic unavoidable one hit kill) and allow knights to be crew shaken/stunned/immobilized/weapon destroyed like everyone else, and things would be a lot more fair.

You could even say "the first immobilize on a superheavy makes it move 6" instead of 12" like it used to be, and it would be fine. But as-is, superheavies basically ignore all the rules that the rest of the game is balanced around while also wielding arbitrarily powerful superweapons and having lots of armor and hull points.

Gargantuan Creatures are arguably even worse.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:56:04 No.50366589 Report

Quoted By: >>50366609

>>50366558
Fateweaver is the exception. Every other daemon FMC pays a bunch of points for CC potential that's wasted staying in the air.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:57:14 No.50366609 Report

Quoted By: >>50366631 >>50366653

>>50366589
It's almost like Magnus doesn't fit the same niche as those and acts like a better Fateweaver??????????????????????

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:58:19 No.50366622 Report

Quoted By: >>50366656 >>50366710

>>50366461
calibre fucks up codex formatting

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:59:05 No.50366631 Report

Quoted By: >>50366816

>>50366609

Just swoop Magnus and chuck strength D psychic powers if you see a super-heavy, otherwise glide him and beat people up in melee, ffs this isn't rocket science

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 20:59:55 No.50366642 Report

Quoted By: >>50366662 >>50366666 >>50366701 >>50366870 >>50367055

>Rerollable 2++ with EW

Loyalists are about to get so btfo

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:00:47 No.50366653 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366609
>WS7
>S8
>I7
>A6
Yeah, he definitely doesn't want to get into a tussle. No points spent on CC ability there.

>>50366579
Daemons are extremely reliant on melee with FMC's for dealing with opposing SH's/GC's.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:01:01 No.50366656 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366622
i dont know any better sadly. if you got one. care to share :)

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:01:01 No.50366657 Report

Quoted By: >>50366714

>>50366579
>Yeah, D weapons will fuck him up, but good luck hitting him on 6's.
how common are D weapons without blasts is what i meant

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:01:22 No.50366662 Report

Quoted By: >>50366672

>>50366642

I love this meme. You want it to be true just to see absolute buttmadness.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:01:47 No.50366666 Report

Quoted By: >>50366693 >>50366712

>>50366642

Magnus' revenge on the Sons of Russ is not just on the fluff level, it's also on the meta level.

Chaos is about to have its revenge, for almost a decade of being given hot garbage that doesn't match the fluff and is worse than everything loyalists have access to.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:02:09 No.50366672 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366662
Thats why I voted trump

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:02:53 No.50366684 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366558

I even keep my LoC grounded anymore because of the easy access to a Staff of Change for the +2S, but DPs especially want to be able to get into melee and destroy shit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:03:16 No.50366693 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366666
Those numbers...I say goddamn..must be true right?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:03:43 No.50366701 Report

Quoted By: >>50366932

>>50366642

It's fine.
CSM will just get nuked into the floor come 8th Edition. Magnus will be removed along with Obliterators and all of their Formations will be edited to include 2+ Warp Talons.
Non-CSM players will celebrate this as a win for the game and claim that all those filthy Legion players deserved it for associating themselves with an OP Codex.
Corax will then be released with an identical profile but with the addition of charging from DS and a lower cost.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:04:27 No.50366710 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366622
Best I've found is Google Play Books, but that's just on Android.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:04:35 No.50366712 Report

Quoted By: >>50366719

>>50366666
I wish I had your optimism. Black Legion reprint followed by Traitor's hate killed my ability to get hype for 40k.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:04:42 No.50366714 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366657
>how common are D weapons without blasts is what i meant

Eldar got a bunch with Wraithguard and knights. Necrons got the big gun pylon thing.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:05:23 No.50366719 Report

Quoted By: >>50366735 >>50366751 >>50366753

>>50366712

If the rumors are all true, we're talking army-wide 2++, and that's before magnus even comes into the picture.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:07:00 No.50366735 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366719
>If the rumors are all true
The ones that are literally being made up by random anons for fun?
>we're talking army-wide 2++
That's not even true with this ridiculous "rumors."

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:08:37 No.50366751 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366719
Why would you think that's true? You think even GW would give widespread 2++?

Magnus will probably have a rerollable 4++ or a 3++ that rerolls 1s, maybe with a power for +1 to that

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:08:45 No.50366753 Report

Quoted By: >>50367351

>>50366719
if mark of tzeentch keeps the "max 3++" its completely okay

i wonder if the detatchment increases the invulnerable save by 1. which is a bit hinted in the magnus leak.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:09:52 No.50366768 Report

Quoted By:

Speaking of nasty demons, Magnus reminds me of the insane Daemon Princes in the back of the 2nd ed. Chaos Codex. I particularly remember the Nurgle one which was a huge incredibly tough meat pile that didn't actually attack but would just kill things that it rolled over in the movement phase.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:12:23 No.50366784 Report

Quoted By: >>50366805 >>50366850

Why are people freaking out about magnus when tzeentch already had 2++ rerollable psychic death stars for the longest time? In fact it is entirely possible that he may be ignored in that retrospect as tons of points are put towards his toughness and close combat ability which are unnecessary.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:14:06 No.50366805 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366784

because eldar cheeselords and tau babbies can't handle a Chaos Space Marine, even a special character who will probably cost 999 points, being scary again

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:15:42 No.50366816 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366631
That's what I'm saying dude, follow the chain.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:19:12 No.50366850 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366784
he's probably going to function similarly to nagash, in that outside of absolutely massive games you'd be an asshole to use him

because it turns the game into "avoid big spellcaster man and if he doesn't blow up all your units before the game ends and you win!"

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:20:59 No.50366870 Report

Quoted By: >>50366912 >>50366952 >>50366988

>>50366642
Did someone say psychic powers?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:25:35 No.50366912 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366870
Hi T3 3+
Meet the inferno boltgun

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:25:57 No.50366915 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365434
oh ho ho no that wont happen, a 4++ armywide with maybe 3++ on chars, and reroll 1`s

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:25:58 No.50366916 Report

Quoted By: >>50366949 >>50366965 >>50366979 >>50367230

So if all the Primarchs are coming back what will the other armies get as an equivalent?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:28:30 No.50366927 Report

Quoted By: >>50366944

fateweaver, magnus, and lord of change with grimnoire of true names and a herald with endless grimnoire, making lord of change warlord. 3 FMC with D shooting. If by some chance magnus doesn't have to be warlord.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:29:01 No.50366932 Report

Quoted By: >>50367158

>>50366701
>he thinks obliterators are good

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:30:12 No.50366944 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366927
Time to put the fear of chaos back in loyalists. Heresy ho!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:30:20 No.50366945 Report

Quoted By: >>50366951

Are incubi worth it?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:31:17 No.50366949 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366916
Wraith Knights.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:31:29 No.50366950 Report

Quoted By: >>50367721 >>50367839

hey guys not sure if this is the place to ask but it's driving me crazy and I need to know.
What is the background music this guy uses. is it from a 40K game? It can be heard clearly at 3:10 in the clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0XcfC220A

PLEASE i NEED TO KNOW! IT'S SO GOOD

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:31:36 No.50366951 Report

Quoted By: >>50366976

>>50366945

Incubi with a Succubus and Venom is a pretty deadly CC unit

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:31:37 No.50366952 Report

Quoted By: >>50367116

>>50366870
>Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment? >A: No.

have fun getting where magnus is. droppods are no option for you.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:32:41 No.50366965 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366916
Eldar
>Avatar of Ynead

Tyranids
>Bigger Bugs

Tau
>Bigger Suits

Daemons
>Giant Greater Daemons

Dark Eldar
>Power From Pain (Their Own)

Orks
>(More) Depression

Necrons
>C'tans
Or
>Robo-alzheimers

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:33:54 No.50366976 Report

Quoted By: >>50367038

>>50366951
plastic incubi when

The reverse harem is great, but metal/resin incubi are a pain in the ass to transport.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:34:08 No.50366979 Report

Quoted By: >>50367001 >>50367016 >>50367028 >>50367061 >>50367131 >>50367607

>>50366916
When will IG get something impressive?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:34:50 No.50366984 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365231
>webstore is switched to another country
>anon isn't paying attention
>flips out over prices
>rushes to /tg/ to unleash his rage
>gets called out on being a dumbass
every damn time

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:35:18 No.50366988 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366870

>T3 3+ and no transports
>vs army of S4Ap3
>mfw

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:36:19 No.50367001 Report

Quoted By: >>50367037

>>50366979
baen blaehd

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:37:48 No.50367016 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366979
Solar Macharius resurrected Saint style.

Maximum tactical supremacy, make Creed look like a chump.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:39:36 No.50367028 Report

Quoted By: >>50367041

>>50366979
Implying that anything can stand up to the might of a baneblade!

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:41:05 No.50367037 Report

Quoted By: >>50367065 >>50367101

>>50367001
Nigga we've had baneblades Space Marine and been people have made them in 40k since with official models as soon as Forgeworld started. Call me when we have a Leviathan that can issue unlimited auto passing orders and transport Leman Russ companies.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:41:13 No.50367038 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366976

Yea, I'm a little turned off by the failcast. There's probably a decent conversion popular using the right Kabalite bodies and fantasy weapons.

I wish Deldar got half the love that CSM get. This is their 4th supplement with the 5th right behind with Wulfen 2: Magnus Boogaloo.

I mean, at least the Covens book is decent, but I just want a supplement for Wych Cults and shit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:41:22 No.50367041 Report

Quoted By: >>50367073

>>50367028
If they gave Baneblades the full 11 barrels of fury and upped the survivability and dropped the price, then they would be a good choice.

Otherwise it's only Stormlords for the invincible barrel of monkeys build.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:42:52 No.50367055 Report

Quoted By: >>50367075 >>50367342 >>50367551

>>50366642
>>50366642
>Leman Russ released
>against Magnus all attacks are S D and re roll on the destroyer table
>Leman Russ always denies the witch on 2+ even if he's not the target
>he have a 3++ when fighting against Magnus and every D attack he receives suffers a -1 on the D table after every other modifiers
>Leman russ have all the warlord traits on the SW codex and champions of Fenris supplement.
Look into your heart, know this to be truth

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:43:11 No.50367061 Report

Quoted By: >>50367076

>>50366979
Bigger Deathstrike.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:43:36 No.50367065 Report

Quoted By: >>50367101

>>50367037
you know, rather than any new stupid oversized-lord-of-war-will-only-use-once model, just give vox casters the ability to receive orders from any distance

That's all i want for my guard.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:44:31 No.50367073 Report

Quoted By: >>50367122

>>50367041
>they just need to make it better in every way and cheaper
/tg/ balancing, everybody.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:44:51 No.50367075 Report

Quoted By: >>50367097

>>50367055
but anon the lion is the one to fight magnus

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:44:55 No.50367076 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367061
They already did that with the vortex payload for the Apocalypse formation. It was hilarious but they've since nerfed vortex.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:46:09 No.50367092 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365434
Nah, I don't think the detachment gives army-wide +1 to invuls, it might just give it to characters or give Magnus a Mark of Tzeentch.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:46:32 No.50367097 Report

Quoted By: >>50367121

>>50367075
Why is chaos fighting chaos?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:46:43 No.50367101 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367037
a leviathan would be the fluffy next step
but they're just so fucking ugly
>>50367065
add twin linking barrage weapons within 18 inch of a vox caster and you have yourself a deal

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:48:04 No.50367116 Report

Quoted By: >>50367156

>>50366952

since imperial agents will be a codex on its own would they be able to use the vehicles from like GK or inq?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:48:27 No.50367121 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367097
ask the wulfen

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:48:27 No.50367122 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367073
The current state of the baneblade is shit. No-one takes them because it's a SHV with terrible rear armour in the edition with the most reliable forms of accurate deep-striking. I'm not saying it needs radical changes in all of those categories but it needs something.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:49:21 No.50367131 Report

Quoted By: >>50367164 >>50367207

>>50366979
Another Baneblade variant but with a bigger version of Stormshard Mortars.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:51:26 No.50367156 Report

Quoted By: >>50367185

>>50367116
I didn't think of that. If they put SoS in that codex then they could use any of the transports included.Even if you put them in their special formation, as it says that models can use transports from different detachments, as long as they come from the same codex.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:51:38 No.50367158 Report

Quoted By: >>50367202

>>50366932
Compared to the other Heavy Supports? Hell yeah they are.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:52:03 No.50367164 Report

Quoted By: >>50367200

>>50367131

As long as it looks like this.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:52:31 No.50367172 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366499

My flyrants don't land until anything that can kill them is gone.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:53:38 No.50367185 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367156

Throw them in a valkyrie from inq and drop em off to shut down psychic abilities. You might lose a girl or two from the drop but who cares.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:55:09 No.50367200 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367164
Now we're talking

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:55:22 No.50367202 Report

Quoted By: >>50367229

>>50367158
Havocs put out more firepower for cheaper as long as you put in a little forethought as to what kind of shooting you want them for. Forgefiends are comparablish in firepower, around the same price, and much more durable.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:55:36 No.50367207 Report

Quoted By: >>50367334

>>50367131
Or
>shatterstorm formation
>2-5 wyvern units
>gains large blast, fleshbane, rending and living inferno
>living inferno: for every unsaved wound cause that same number of wounds on the enemy units

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:56:06 No.50367210 Report

Quoted By: >>50367219 >>50367236 >>50367262

Confirmed by the usual sources: The first loyalist Primarch to be released will be Corax. Same basic statline as Magnus, minus the FMC bit.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:57:22 No.50367219 Report

Quoted By: >>50367228 >>50367388

>>50367210
Where?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:57:50 No.50367223 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365300
>ignores perils
>when comparable psykers, such as karios, don't.
Reroll on the chart? Maybe. Ignore? Highly unlikely

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:58:17 No.50367228 Report

Quoted By: >>50367314 >>50367388

>>50367219

/tg/

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:58:22 No.50367229 Report

Quoted By: >>50367255 >>50367367

>>50367202
2+, DS, and being able to do anti-tank and anti-tank in one game makes them better.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:58:23 No.50367230 Report

Quoted By: >>50367272

>>50366916
Primorks would've been awesome but shitty writers completely fucked

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 21:59:44 No.50367236 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367210

Confirmed by the usual sources: The first loyalist Primarch is Draigo, who is Horus penitent under a false name.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:02:20 No.50367252 Report

Quoted By: >>50367310

>>50364782
what is the best ereader to read the epubs in the mega?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:02:32 No.50367255 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367229
Anti-tank AND anti-tank?

Gee Bill...

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:02:54 No.50367262 Report

Quoted By: >>50367279 >>50367280

>>50367210
>Primarch with the same statline as a daenon prince primarch

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:03:57 No.50367272 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367230
Hopefully when ghazzy gets a new model his rules will reflect his fluff more

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:04:35 No.50367279 Report

Quoted By: >>50367531

>>50367262
In what other case has adding Daemon shit to loyalist stuff made them better?

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:04:37 No.50367280 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367262
>daenon

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:06:33 No.50367300 Report

Quoted By: >>50367333 >>50367417 >>50367970

Kroot are fucking ugly. Using Warzone Imperial Militia as proxy figures. Kroot are visually basic when compared to the Tau, so I figured this is the same but with humans in place of birdmen. Rate this aesthetic.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:06:58 No.50367307 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw we'll never get rules for Alicia and her crew because it happened well after HH, but before 40k

Feels bad with primarchs coming back.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:07:23 No.50367310 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367252
Readium. It's a chrome add-on.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:07:44 No.50367314 Report

Quoted By: >>50367366 >>50368428

>>50367228
I guess you're one of those idiots that believed when I told them Belacuck was going to usurp slaneesh as an shadow God and all the slaneesh range would be renamed into shadow daemons.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:09:48 No.50367333 Report

Quoted By: >>50367344

>>50367300

>thinks Kroot are ugly
>replaces them with ugly looking human models

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:09:53 No.50367334 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367207
Absolutely disgusting, I'd take two full formations for a 2k point game just for pie plate madness.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:10:31 No.50367342 Report

Quoted By: >>50367573

>>50367055
nice bait

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:10:33 No.50367344 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367333
Kroot are fugly. Militia a cute.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:10:42 No.50367351 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366753
If the detachment was a raw +1 invuln that'd be ridiculous. Every unit having a 4++ minimum before marks would be brutal. I imagine it'll probably extend the reroll 1s that daemons get to tzeentch units.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:11:38 No.50367361 Report

Quoted By: >>50367385

Vect on Dais of Destruction LoW when?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:12:01 No.50367366 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367314

It was believable because that's what's happening with the shitty AoS

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:12:01 No.50367367 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367229
2+ is kind of irrelevent when plasma is fucking everywhere. Not to mention FFs have a similar sort of protection because of the relationship between high strength and low AP.

>Deepstriking your primary ranged support
>3 lascannon shots a turn being effective anti-tank

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:12:29 No.50367371 Report

Quoted By: >>50367389

>>50365335
I can't be the only one that refuses to play against superheavies

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:13:49 No.50367385 Report

Quoted By: >>50367400

>>50367361
Never, he's too much of a coward to go on realspace raids these days, he just hides in his fortress literally all the time.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:14:00 No.50367388 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367219
>>50367228
It's an asspull based on the order Primarchs have appeared in TTS.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:14:02 No.50367389 Report

Quoted By: >>50367414

>>50367371
Newfag here, define superheavies?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:15:05 No.50367400 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367385

LIAR he's just really bummed out and having trouble with his ex girlfriend atm he'll be back on it with the lads pronto

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:16:33 No.50367414 Report

Quoted By: >>50367435

>>50367389

It's a rule anon, the rule of super heavy, a heavy that is super. Baneblades and such with 5+ HP and ignoring the vehicle damage table and firing weapons individually @ different targets.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:16:52 No.50367417 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367300
It's decent enough, but I'm a fan of low-tech next to high-tech

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:18:52 No.50367435 Report

Quoted By: >>50367463 >>50367464

>>50367414
OOOOh. kek. What if like, a 40k arms race started with super heavies, and every edition gave a race some new shiny toy that was near impossible to kill.

Also, do you other 40k anons play annihilate or mission objective stuff mostly?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:21:44 No.50367463 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367435

I'm still getting used to 7th, but I fucking love Maelstrom of War missions. Tac objectives are baller.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:21:51 No.50367464 Report

Quoted By: >>50367509

>>50367435

The Arms race is long underway anon, my group of friends often reference it when we're all getting salty at someone bringing the newest forge world. I'm currently on top with an Eldar Revenant Titan (I play deldar) which I bought when everyone else escalated to forge world stuff.

As it stands the only races getting new and shiny tech are the imperium and tau.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:23:03 No.50367478 Report

Quoted By: >>50368218

>>50364809
>Slice a Wraithknight in half

But he's only 6 feet tall! How is he-

>Flying Monstrous Creature

Oh god no!

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:25:03 No.50367509 Report

Quoted By: >>50367544

>>50367464
>tfw all the cool small IG stuff is slowly disappearing from FW
>tfw no laser destroyers anymore either

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:27:14 No.50367531 Report

Quoted By: >>50367557

>>50367279
Aren't Daemon Knights pretty good when compared to Imperial Knights?

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:28:17 No.50367544 Report

Quoted By: >>50367617

>>50367509
>tfw the one FW unit you had has been gone for ages

Hopefully that's just because they're making it an official plastic kit. I'm optimistic because it would be the best way for old players who already have 5+ immolators to buy more.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:28:28 No.50367551 Report

Quoted By: >>50367573 >>50368496

>>50367055
>Marine players literally shaking because chaos finally got something nice

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:29:07 No.50367557 Report

Quoted By: >>50367624

>>50367531
You're thinking in RENEGADE knights

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:30:20 No.50367573 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367551
>Magnus
>nice
>taking the bait
Be like>>50367342 anon

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:32:51 No.50367607 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366979
Lord Solar pls
I just bought his model and I want to use it already

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:34:05 No.50367617 Report

Quoted By: >>50367633

>>50367544
according to 1dchan the pieces for the immolator are included with the exorcist now

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:34:43 No.50367624 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367557
Daemon knights are arguably better than both

Less versatile sure, but they're the hardest knights to kill by far and dominate MCs/GCs

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:35:22 No.50367633 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367617

>FW
>Immolator

While that's true, I'm talking about Repressors, man.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:36:26 No.50367645 Report

Quoted By:

>>50364782

Magnus
>>50367623
VS
>>50367623
The Lion
>>50367623

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:44:21 No.50367721 Report

Quoted By:

>>50366950
please anyone!!!

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 22:53:38 No.50367839 Report

Quoted By: >>50367993

>>50366950
Look at video description

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:02:30 No.50367932 Report

Quoted By: >>50368261

Does anyone have 'The Unburdened' novel?

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Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:05:37 No.50367970 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367300
>kroot
>ugly

How does it feel to have no taste?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:07:05 No.50367993 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367839
yeha I did but I still can't find the goddamn track on this shit. it's driving me crazy. why did they not just put a link to the song on youtube
http://billynunez.com/

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:24:06 No.50368218 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367478
Not sure of trolling, but..
You've Seen the Model right?
Should've been gargantuan

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:24:58 No.50368224 Report

Quoted By: >>50368515

>>50365377
GSC?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:28:02 No.50368261 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367932
I don't
Is it cool?

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:43:29 No.50368428 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367314
Fuck you man that really disturbed my jimmies

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:45:05 No.50368443 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365335
Except that Wraithknight will never make it into close combat, it will just get shot with Magnus Strength D psychic gaze attack while he zooms around in the sky being fucking untouchable.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:50:28 No.50368496 Report

Quoted By:

>>50367551
>"nice"
I think you mean, so OP no one will ever play against you if you field him outside of apocalypse.

Enjoy your shelf display model.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:51:54 No.50368515 Report

Quoted By:

>>50368224
Not out long enough for anyone to make a judgement with hard tourney data.

Anonymous Wed 23 Nov 2016 23:52:56 No.50368529 Report

Quoted By:

>>50365377
Ad Mech aren't top 7, you're thinking Dark Angels. Ad Mech are solidly middle tier.

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