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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 10:26:33 2017 No.51217728 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>51217746 >>51217801 >>51217841 >>51218810 >>51220004

New Eldar toys soon edition

Old thread: >>51213277

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:29:02 No.51217746 Report

Quoted By: >>51217755 >>51217760

>>51217728
Lelith is cute!
CUTE!

too bad she's very shy in bed and always needs her partner to take the lead...

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:30:26 No.51217755 Report

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>>51217746
2nd for most loyal marines.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:30:54 No.51217757 Report

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2nd for fall of cadia download when?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:30:58 No.51217760 Report

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>>51217746
She escorts for Vect. There's absolutely no way this is true.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:32:12 No.51217763 Report

Quoted By: >>51217771

I really want to start 40k using Dark Eldar.

Terrible idea or terrible idea?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:32:12 No.51217764 Report

Quoted By: >>51219759

>>51217760
that's only because the Kabal of the Black Heart has assassinated everyone who divulgates that information, in order to maintain Lelith's public image.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:32:21 No.51217766 Report

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>>51217755
sorry you didnt post us.
on a side note anyone know an easy way to do that design on the cape it looks amazing

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:32:55 No.51217767 Report

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>>51217766
who dat?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:33:01 No.51217768 Report

Quoted By: >>51217778 >>51217794 >>51217800 >>51217866 >>51218877

How do we make dark eldar good?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:33:10 No.51217770 Report

Quoted By: >>51217947 >>51218070 >>51218130 >>51218846 >>51219555

This squatting position is retarded. Why are their legs so far apart? How can anyone play Space Marines when they all look like they are about to take a shit?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:33:14 No.51217771 Report

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>>51217763
terrible idea

play inquisimunda

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:34:17 No.51217778 Report

Quoted By: >>51217911

>>51217768
Make fear good?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:34:20 No.51217779 Report

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Fall of Cadia epub yet?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:34:47 No.51217783 Report

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>>51217766
>on a side note anyone know an easy way to do that design on the cape it looks amazing
Those are converted from DE sea dragon cloaks.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Elf-Black-Ark-Corsairs

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:37:27 No.51217794 Report

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>>51217768

>Dark Eldar can fire at full BS while travelling flat out.

Done. There's no justification for why they can't, and buffs their specialist skill (being the fastest army).

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:38:12 No.51217800 Report

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>>51217768
Make their offense scary again. It would also be nice if PfP went back to rewarding Alpha Strikes(DE are good at this) rather than attrition(DE are terrible at this). Both of these things were true in 5th ed., and despite still being a fragile army they were very good.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:38:27 No.51217801 Report

Quoted By: >>51217838 >>51217877 >>51217879 >>51217890 >>51219228 >>51219986

>>51217728

>New Eldar toys soon edition

If the red armoured Eldar dude really is Arhra, I hope it paves the way for more PL models and they do away with the conventional PL statline. Demi-gods of battle with 10k years of experience and the combined skills and strengths of thousands of Aspect Warriors really ought to have better BS/WS than a generic Archon. Hell, if Illic and Lelith can net BS9/WS9 you'd reckon even older gestalts would be a clean 10, right?

Then again, with Belsarious Cawl out dueling dedicated melee heroes I'm not holding out much hope.

What are some other examples of fluff/crunch dissonance that grind your gears?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:44:29 No.51217838 Report

Quoted By: >>51217981

>>51217801
>whole CSM book
>whole DE book
>whole Nids book

Should I go on?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:44:49 No.51217841 Report

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>>51217728
Fall of Cadia epub when?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:47:23 No.51217866 Report

Quoted By: >>51217891 >>51217913 >>51219564

>>51217768
>Kabalites get Plasma Grenades. Trueborn also come with a Rifle, Pistol, and CCW standard.
>Wyches can make their 4+ invulnerable save against Overwatch and gain a new special rule: "Dances of the Hekatarii": Each round of combat they choose between +1WS, +1St, or +1 to their Inv save. Can't choose the same bonus in two rounds simultaneously, stacks with combat drugs.
>Lelith counts as being under the effect of all three at once. In addition, enemy models must re-roll successful attempts to hit her in CC.
>Scourges gain Relentless and can make a Thrust move in the assault phase just like Jet Infantry.
>New army-wide Special rule: "Unmatched Agility"; auto-pass dangerous terrain tests, no penalties for moving or charging through difficult terrain.
>Disintegrator Cannons increased to St6, Dark Lances up to AP1.
>Wracks are FNP (4+).
>Talos and Cronos Engines gain Scout.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:48:15 No.51217874 Report

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Ok I have several questions to ask about dfts
What exactly is an air superiority detachment:

Is any squadron-able aircraft available to be a flyer wing?

Asking specifically for Remora drones: can be taken in squadrons of 1-5, can I take them in a flyer wing with a wing leader? Can they use attack formations? Can they be taken in an air superiority detachment?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:48:33 No.51217877 Report

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>>51217801
PA meaning jackshit nowadays.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:48:51 No.51217879 Report

Quoted By: >>51217907 >>51218039

>>51217801
>Belsarious Cawl out dueling dedicated melee heroes

No one out-duels Sigismund!

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:50:47 No.51217890 Report

Quoted By: >>51217981 >>51218022

>>51217801
Always bugged me that Bikes are the better option for durability compared to Terminator armor in most cases. It's lame to see Nurgle lords that should be trudging around in the heaviest armor possible doing wheelies instead.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:50:54 No.51217891 Report

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>>51217866
>Trueborn also come with a Rifle, Pistol, and CCW standard
stormtroopers getting their pistols back when

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:53:31 No.51217907 Report

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>>51217879
Scoria, any of the Primarchs.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:53:51 No.51217911 Report

Quoted By: >>51218002 >>51218085 >>51218889

>>51217778

As an Ork player, let me tell you, Fear IS good. It's an absolutely devastating rule against melee focused armies, and even against shooty units its decent if you can close the distance, since it makes for a more devastating charge and less chance of injury.

The problem is half the armies in the game are immune to it, and most of the rest either have high leadership or are just so good that they don't care (looking at you Eldar and Tau).

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:54:13 No.51217913 Report

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>>51217866

>Talos and Cronos Engines gain Scout.

Everything in the army should get Scout. DEldar attacks come from nowhere, that's their whole MO. So everything in the army should be already moving by the time the battle starts.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:57:02 No.51217935 Report

Quoted By: >>51218013

I decided to sell all my Tyranids and play AdMech instead. Good or bad idea?

And ally them with sisters when they get an update

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 10:58:33 No.51217947 Report

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>>51217770
The Adeptus Astartes is entirely made up of space Slavs

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:02:56 No.51217981 Report

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>>51217838

>Deldar losing their fluffy and cool drive by slashing rule on reavers in favour of generic HoW
>Chosen and VoTW suck
>Synapse is a curse more than a blessing

It burns.

>>51217890

The +1 toughness on bikes has got to be the most annoying universal thing in the rules.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:06:21 No.51218002 Report

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>>51217911
Hmm maybe implied what i meant wrong. I meant to make fear useful again as in make it where it actually has an effect in games

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:07:08 No.51218013 Report

Quoted By: >>51218134

>>51217935
>allying AdMech with the one Imperial organization they hate most and vice-versa

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:08:20 No.51218022 Report

Quoted By: >>51218087 >>51218126

>>51217890
>Always bugged me that Bikes are the better option for durability compared to Terminator armor in most cases.
How much am I putting myself on the back foot by going Termies for my Death Guard rather than bikes? Termies look far cooler, like Typhus is probably my favourite single model around.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:09:43 No.51218031 Report

Quoted By: >>51218112

>I field 1 sternguard of 4 combi-grav as the only grav weapons in my entire army
>opponents pull out their WAAC lists

Should I just give in to the dark side? Its not like I'm finding any other hygienic players who want to play fluffy battles.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:11:06 No.51218039 Report

Quoted By: >>51218109

>>51217879
It would make more sense that he would have a high ballistic skill, low weapon skill, high strength, but low initiative.

What is this fucking statline?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:15:45 No.51218070 Report

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>>51217770

Myself and many others agree with you and wonder the same thing. It isn't because of the design of the models, because old assault marines had running legs, and new assault marines/other kits have two part legs to remove the squat. Forge World also includes 2 running legs and 3 squatters for every 5 man marine kit.

Personally my army is almost entirely made of running leg from FW or assault marines.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:17:32 No.51218085 Report

Quoted By: >>51218120

>>51217911
>Fear IS good. It's an absolutely devastating rule against melee focused armies, and even against shooty units its decent if you can close the distance, since it makes for a more devastating charge and less chance of injury.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:17:53 No.51218087 Report

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>>51218022
Bikes are better for a number of reasons, but DG Termies are still quite solid.. FNP adds a lot to their survivability vs. both AP2 and massed fire.

Keep in mind that since they're I3 you want to go Power Axes for any power weapon you aren't upgrading. Personally I like three man squads with combi-melta and one chainfist.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:20:21 No.51218109 Report

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>>51218039
The master of duelling with swords should have low WS? Kys

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:20:30 No.51218112 Report

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>>51218031
The general rule of 40k is you should match your list to your local environment. If your playgroup does fun, narrative lists, do likewise. If everyone plays all out competitive, do the same.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:21:01 No.51218114 Report

Quoted By: >>51218149 >>51218172

What's the difference between a Feudal World and a Feral World? I've heard of both having up to black-powder weapons, while Feral Worlds have been described as Mad Max like.
Is the difference the lack of central government? Or the lack of fiefdom?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:21:58 No.51218120 Report

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>>51218085
can i run carchadons as count-as World Eaters?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:23:15 No.51218126 Report

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>>51218022

Loyalist terminators = unplayable
Loyalist bikes = everywhere

DG terminators = loyalist bikes, but slower and no jink
DG bikes = ???

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:24:01 No.51218130 Report

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>>51217770
It's because of pic related.

I think the sculptors were trying to imitate the low/wide stance, not necessarily knowing what they were looking at.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:24:35 No.51218134 Report

Quoted By: >>51219040

>>51218013
Yeah I know (certain) AdMech would probably shoot the Missionaria before shooting Eldar but they're my favourite Imperial factions so they'll have to deal with it.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:25:31 No.51218136 Report

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fall of cadia epub yet?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:26:51 No.51218149 Report

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>>51218114
Feral Worlds are hunter-gatherer-tier societies, while fuedal ones are medieval-tier. That's the main difference. In a Feral World the planetary governor likely rules from an orbital station and has very little to do with the planet itself beyond rounding up the most dangerous tribes to be conscripted into the Guard and controlling psykers, while a Feudal world is likely to be ruled in a more conventional fashion.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:27:12 No.51218151 Report

Quoted By: >>51218162 >>51218164 >>51218169 >>51218171 >>51218182 >>51218205 >>51218751

Why did they change crons from scary spooky skeletons to "give our souls back" robots?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:28:18 No.51218162 Report

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>>51218151
But they didnt Anon, thats just your autism flaring up again.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:28:39 No.51218164 Report

Quoted By: >>51218186 >>51218194 >>51218226

>>51218151
Oldcron lore was fucking obnoxious with the way it tried to shoehorn the C'tan into every unexplained mystery and oddity in the 40k setting. Andy Chambers has a lot to answer for that particular blight. The Newcron fluff isn't great either, but at least it's easier to ignore.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:29:16 No.51218169 Report

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>>51218151
I actually prefer the new necron law. It's the whole reason I started collecting them.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:29:18 No.51218171 Report

Quoted By: >>51218194

>>51218151
They didnt, they simply added the opportunity for the race to have more character. You can have your spooky skellies and your crazy space pharaohs instead of JUST spooky skellies.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:29:19 No.51218172 Report

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>>51218114
>while Feral Worlds have been described as Mad Max like.
While there may be worlds like this, it's not typical. Stone/bronze age tribes are more common.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:30:22 No.51218182 Report

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>>51218151
Because they're more relatable now.

It also makes modifications to your army more sensible fluff-wise.

I don't really like it

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:30:35 No.51218186 Report

Quoted By: >>51218228

>>51218164
>Andy Chambers has a lot to answer for that particular blight

Change C'tan to Xel'Naga and you have SC2.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:30:47 No.51218189 Report

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>>51217755
wrong picture

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:31:21 No.51218194 Report

Quoted By: >>51218242 >>51218800

Not the guy you both replied to.

>>51218164
Where does it say that in the old codex?

>>51218171
Where does it say you can do that in the new codex?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:32:22 No.51218205 Report

Quoted By: >>51218218 >>51218431

>>51218151
Oldcrons were effective Tyranids 2: Electric Boogaloo as far as the setting is concerned. Just another faceless existential threat.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:32:52 No.51218213 Report

Quoted By: >>51218227 >>51218338

So I picked up Dark Vengeance and the starter paint set, with a friend today, as our first entry into 40k.
I got the Dark Angels side.

What do I need from here? I know I want the dark green paint, what else?
Where would I go for building a decent army with em, to play outside the DV scenarios?
Anything else I should pay attention to, or pick up?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:33:28 No.51218218 Report

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>>51218205

Shut your flesh hole, jive turkey.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:34:25 No.51218226 Report

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>>51218164
Dont mess with Chambers ¬_¬

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:34:30 No.51218227 Report

Quoted By: >>51218250

>>51218213

Didn't get enough responses yesterday?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:34:31 No.51218228 Report

Quoted By: >>51219594 >>51219604 >>51221780

>>51218186
Pretty much. I've been playing since 3rd edition and while it's true that Chambers did a lot for the game, he doesn't deserve to be viewed with the sort of nostalgia which people regard him. He was obsessed with forcing the setting down a path of his choosing, and left in a tantrum when the higher ups told him he couldn't.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:34:40 No.51218229 Report

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Any army builders that have added the Castellans of The Imperium yet or am I stuck going through every book for all the possible points costs and options?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:35:28 No.51218234 Report

Quoted By: >>51218248

Anons, is Red Tithe in epub yet?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:36:41 No.51218242 Report

Quoted By: >>51218256 >>51218634

>>51218194
>Where does it say that in the old codex?
In the fluff section? C'tan went from the name of the Callidus's sword to the Deceiver being responsible for almost everything. It was annoying.

>Where does it say you can do that in the new codex?
Rank and file Necrons are still mindless skellies, You now just have differentiated leaders rather than them being completely faceless as well. And if you want your armies leader to be a stoic doom of worlds, you can do that.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:38:04 No.51218248 Report

Quoted By: >>51218343

>>51218234
Er you go.
http://www3.zippyshare.com/v/QBKuaKeU/file.html
Fall of Cadia epub when?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:38:46 No.51218250 Report

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>>51218227
Nope, I got one, and it answered just the one question.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:39:32 No.51218256 Report

Quoted By: >>51218277 >>51218287 >>51218634

>>51218242

>In the fluff section? C'tan went from the name of the Callidus's sword to the Deceiver being responsible for almost everything. It was annoying.

Can you be more specific please? Thanks.

>And if you want your armies leader to be a stoic doom of worlds, you can do that.
Are there any examples of this in the codex, or other currently canon material, or is it more a case of building your own fluff?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:42:38 No.51218277 Report

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>>51218256
>Are there any examples of this in the codex, or other currently canon material

Maynarkh Dynasty in the Fall of the Orpheus book is pretty much oldcron dynasty.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:44:55 No.51218287 Report

Quoted By: >>51218325 >>51218332 >>51218391 >>51218634

>>51218256
>Can you be more specific please? Thanks.

>The Deceiver created untouchables in humanity, so they could be harvested and turned into Pariahs (back when they were a thing) when the Necrons woke up again
>The Nightbringer is why every species in the galaxy is afraid of death
>The C'tan were behind the disappearance of the Old Ones
>The then-mythical War in Heaven was due to the Necrons and C'tan
>The Void Dragon is buried on mars and gave rise to the Adeptus Mechanicus
>The Outsider was implied to be influencing the Tyranids in some way

And that's just what I can remember off the top of my head. There could well be more that I've forgotten.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:50:19 No.51218325 Report

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>>51218287
I liked the idea how Deceiver lurded Abaddon into Gothic War to get rid of Blackstonefortress.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:51:00 No.51218332 Report

Quoted By: >>51218363 >>51218391 >>51218635

>>51218287

>The Nightbringer is why every species in the galaxy is afraid of death

It was even more obnoxious than that. Chambers tried to spin it as the reason the Eldar empire fell even though that makes no fucking sense for a reincarnating race. Their entire problem was they were complacent and feared nothing.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:51:35 No.51218338 Report

Quoted By: >>51218389 >>51219492

>>51218213
>What do I need from here?
More models. The DA armored assault box would be a good deal (https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Angels-Gauntlet-Tactical-Squad). Rhinos are good. But as for what else to buy exactly, that's up to you and what you want to play. When you're just starting out I'd pick a few things from each slot you like the look of. So in your case grab some Heavy Support. Maybe a Devastator squad, or Devastator Centurions.

>I know I want the dark green paint, what else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfToNrfoDh4&list=PLEaPE4sLDA7vfhJu7igpMVEuwJzrMU5TK

The above videos will show you how to paint your dudes to a basic tabletop standard. Look at the other tutorials in the channel for ideas of where to go with advanced techniques to improve the shading and highlighting from there.

>Where would I go for building a decent army with em, to play outside the DV scenarios?
Most of this is just experience, but you may want to look at other peoples armies posted to forums like Dakkadakka or Bolter and Chainsword.

>Anything else I should pay attention to, or pick up?
Please learn the rules of the game and your army well.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:52:26 No.51218343 Report

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>>51218248
thank you anon!

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:54:57 No.51218358 Report

Quoted By: >>51218375 >>51218394 >>51218403

What is the conventional wisdom regarding Death Guard Aspiring Champion weapon load-outs? You're already hitting after MEQs, so is it better to go accept your fate and take a power axe? And if you're taking a power axe, should you just go for broke and take a power fist instead?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:55:30 No.51218363 Report

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>>51218332
Christ, I forgot about that. Then again, with all this Time of Ending/Gathering Storm bollocks GW is forcing down our throats these days, maybe Chambers had the last laugh after all.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:57:30 No.51218375 Report

Quoted By: >>51218405 >>51218407 >>51218604

>>51218358

Fist.

You're I3, basically everyone is striking before you, there's no reason not to.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:57:36 No.51218377 Report

Quoted By: >>51218398 >>51218402 >>51218410 >>51218422 >>51218428 >>51218436 >>51218449

Who/what are Exodites? People were talking about them in that thread about the gyrinx model and all I could pick up was 'dinosaur-riding wood elves in space.'.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:13 No.51218389 Report

Quoted By: >>51219492

>>51218338
Champion, thanks.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:15 No.51218391 Report

Quoted By: >>51218437

>>51218287
>>The Outsider was implied to be influencing the Tyranids in some way

Nope. don't lie.

>>51218332
Eldar legend which are often said that are not based on historical fact.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:30 No.51218394 Report

Quoted By: >>51218604

>>51218358
Naked or just Melta Bombs.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:36 No.51218398 Report

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>>51218377
Wood elves in space.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:56 No.51218402 Report

Quoted By: >>51218432

>>51218377

That's basically it. They're Eldar who left the craftworlds after the Fall, but never went to Commoragh. They went to Maiden Worlds instead, and became hippies. They're 40k's Wood Elves.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 11:59:58 No.51218403 Report

Quoted By: >>51218604

>>51218358
Axe is just the budget fist, it all depends on what else you could spend those 10pts on.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:00:13 No.51218405 Report

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>>51218375
>Bayonets Intensify.gif

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:00:20 No.51218407 Report

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>>51218375

>I3

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:00:55 No.51218410 Report

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>>51218377
>'dinosaur-riding wood elves in space.'

Yeah thats it, they're Eldar living in Maiden Worlds which are basically virgin planets.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:02:07 No.51218421 Report

Quoted By: >>51218434 >>51218435

Posted this in another thread before, bit did Forge World stop selling Imperial Armor One? I can't find it on their site anywhere.

Also which book is the renegade guard in? Someone said IA 8, but isn't there some in Vraks as well?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:02:22 No.51218422 Report

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>>51218377
You are correct.
They are eldars that leave empire long before the fall. They live on exodite worlds sometimes they help craftworlds, and basically are wood elves in space that rides dinosaurs.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:02:48 No.51218428 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218377
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exodite

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:03:16 No.51218431 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218205
The C'tan were the face of the Oldcrons.

But anyways people said that Newcrons diversified the Necrons so cite me a single example of a Newcron dynasty working for or worshiping the C'tan. Where is this option?

Notice that the people who like the Newcrons are either Eldarfags who are total cunts or Nidfags who are total hypocrites because they rage at every new fluff that pops up.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:03:18 No.51218432 Report

Quoted By: >>51221547

>>51218402

>hippies

Dammit. I was hoping for badasses, not pot-smoking, patchouli-wearing, unwashed fops to stoned to get out of their van to put up a fight.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:03:44 No.51218434 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218421
>but isn't there some in Vraks as well

The Vraks one is a variation of the generic list in IA8. Get Vraks if you want to use The Purge detachment otherwise just get the IA8 one.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:03:49 No.51218435 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218421
>Also which book is the renegade guard in?
IA13

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:03:51 No.51218436 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218377
When the Eldar culture first began to slide into degeneracy, long before the Craftworlds were launched, a number of Eldar grew disgusted with the path their society was taking. They abandoned their home systems and went to found isolated colonies throughout the galaxy, keeping themselves pure through hard, honest work. Those are the Exodites - after the Fall they developed a symbiotic relationship with their worlds, weaving Wraithbone through the planet and creating a 'world soul', basically a sort of gestalt sapience spread across the ecosystem. They trade with other Eldar, exchanging goods that can't be grown or manufactured on the Craftworlders in exchage for soulstones and protection when invaded, and are well known for raising and training large lizards for both food and war-mounts.

Basically, they're Amish/hippy Eldar that ride dinosaurs.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:04:02 No.51218437 Report

Quoted By: >>51218467

>>51218391

>Eldar legend which are often said that are not based on historical fact.

No one is saying it's hard canon, just that it's a stupidly contrived way to play up Crons as a big threat and shoe horn them into a setting that existed fine without them.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:05:15 No.51218449 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218377
>Who/what are Space Marines? People were talking about them in that thread about the marine-inside-marine model and all I could pick up was 'SPESS MAHREEEN.'.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:08:27 No.51218467 Report

Quoted By: >>51218477

>>51218437
It's stupid to take it as fact in-verse because the harlequins stories are like water. They change with every telling adding details or removing to make the story more appealing to the crowd. They are not historical records they are shows and the entertainment is ore important than facts.

That story is just meant to show that the C'tan were there during the WiH and were a serous threat. Anything else is just space clown being showmen.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:10:38 No.51218477 Report

Quoted By: >>51218518

>>51218467

I feel like you didn't even read the post. I specifically said no one took it as hard canon. The fact it was trying so hard to make crons seem a serious threat in ways that didn't make sense was the exact thing I criticised.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:11:25 No.51218483 Report

Quoted By: >>51218503 >>51218524

>Been running Green Tide lists on and off
>Just realized that if I roll on Strategic Traits and get Master of Ambush I can Infiltrate the entire Tide.
>Orks also get a relic that gives a free roll on Strategic Traits
>2 chances with rerolls to get this

Sure it's not certain but if that goes off it'll be fun.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:15:05 No.51218503 Report

Quoted By: >>51218590

>>51218483
Still gotta be a fair distance away, especially if they can see you, and they definitely CAN see at least some of your horde no matter how dense your terrain is.

Also all it takes to fuck that over is an Inquisitor with skulls or Greyfax with her 24" 'no infiltrating pls' bubble.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:17:24 No.51218518 Report

Quoted By: >>51218535 >>51218578

>>51218477
>new faction being introduced in the WD
>they hype it up in the issue

DUUUUUUUH.

And you lie. You took it as fact that the Nightbringer was responsible for the fall of the Eldar.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:18:02 No.51218524 Report

Quoted By: >>51218882

>>51218483
>I can Infiltrate the entire Tide.
At that point you should just give up and play GSC.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:19:03 No.51218535 Report

Quoted By: >>51218550

>>51218518
Oldcron fluff was universally reviled when it came out anon.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:20:01 No.51218543 Report

Quoted By: >>51218559

>Gathering of the Storm confirms that the Necron Pylons are the only things keeping reality afloat from being dragged into the Warp and consumed

Does this confirm that all other galaxies have been drowned in the Warp? So that's why the Tyranids are running. They fleeing galaxy after galaxy as the galaxies collapse into the Warp.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:21:19 No.51218550 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218535
Not by the guys who played the Oldcrons and DOW 1 games.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:22:05 No.51218559 Report

Quoted By: >>51218565

>>51218543
no

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:22:57 No.51218565 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218559
Yes.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:24:18 No.51218577 Report

Quoted By:

Does anyone ever get into arguments with people who have little knowledge of the rules?
Some guy I played kept asking why his AP3 bolters only wounded on 3s, and I explained twice that AP only effects armour.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:24:19 No.51218578 Report

Quoted By: >>51218635

>>51218518

You're still not actually addressing any point being made. No one is saying you can't hype up the new faction. They're saying you can't hype up the new faction in a way that makes no sense and pretends they've always been there whilst creating plot holes and necessitating retcons.

>You took it as fact that the Nightbringer was responsible for the fall of the Eldar.

I literally said the complete opposite. Twice. No one takes it as hard canon. It's a legend, but what the legend tries to suggest by saying, "the seed of the Eldar's downfall was sown, and ultimately, the way of reincarnation was closed to them forever", makes no sense and tries to fill a niche that never needed filling.

If the only response you can give to a legend is that it's probably wrong then it's worthless fluff isn't it?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:24:48 No.51218582 Report

Quoted By: >>51218602 >>51219589

Looking at Celestines blessings I've had an idea.

Take an Exalted Court of Imperial Knights, then take a barebones detachment that you can smack Celestine in. The wording of the LoW blessing is unique in that it lasts for the rest of the game. So start Celestine within 12" of the entire court and they all get IWND for the rest of the game.

Then just chuck Celestine at the nearest enemy I guess.

Never get a game ever/10?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:25:39 No.51218590 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218503

At worst it gets you 6 inches closer. And an added bonus is freeing up more of your deployment zone. Generally when I deploy with a Green Tide list it's quite difficult to find room to put down my other units.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:26:41 No.51218602 Report

Quoted By: >>51218621

>>51218582
>Never get a game ever/10?

You're taking an Exalted Court. Anyone willing to actually play against that isn't going to be phased by IWND showing up.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:26:53 No.51218604 Report

Quoted By: >>51218618 >>51218641

>>51218375
>>51218394
>>51218403

Cheers for that.

So with Traitor Legions, is it ever worth taking Plague Marines over MoN squads?

Also, if you intend to footslog would it be better to take a heavy weapon rather than doubling up on special? Mechanised squads I would go double plasma/melta, but I sort of love the idea of an infantry horde slowly marching across the board to take advantage of relentless /FnP/maybe stealth.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:29:08 No.51218618 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218604
>is it ever worth taking Plague Marines over MoN squads?
Only if you're trying to do some weird strat with Plague Colony,

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:29:14 No.51218621 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218602
I don't know, people tend to get especially salty about wounds/hullpoints coming back.

Just look at the reaction to Cawl, half his rules involved avoiding damage or repairing himself and he's talked about in the same tones as Riptides.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:31:29 No.51218634 Report

Quoted By: >>51218643 >>51218674

>>51218256
>>51218287
>>51218242

since it appears there are old cron lore folks here I have a question that's been bothering me for ages.

The Necrotyr developed their hate for life because they are stuck on a radiation blasted armpit of a rock correct?

My question is how the necron because such a widespread threat if the grand total of necrons were a single planet's population that was converted by the C'tan.

I don't asume post transformed necrons had any way of reproduction, so the whole war in the heavens should have been on a very limited scale since the necrons were a finite force right?

If they could get off world and escape their planetary shitbed, and build vast empires, why go the full "fuck life, let's go to war with the eldar and Old ones!" if they were busy cultivating life through empire building?

I'm honestly curious about this, the newcron atleast give an half arsed political angle to work with if nothing else.

pic unrelated.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:31:44 No.51218635 Report

Quoted By: >>51218685

>>51218578
>I literally said the complete opposite. Twice. No one takes it as hard canon.
See >>51218332

How can you say one thing and mean something else. Double think here people. The WD and Tau codex that introduced the Tau has an Eldrad quote that basically says that the Tau will take over the galaxy. Are you going believe that as well?

How can you lie like that? The first post shows your intention. You cannot change it

Anyways, they can hype a faction in whatever way they want. All factions get hyped up like the best thing ever. And ACTING?PRETENDING to be bothered by plotholes and retcons in a setting so rife with them because the author simply don't care is stupidity itself. You have no leg to stand upon. Oldcrons weren't the first or the last retcon. Certainly weren't the most sweping setting retcons out there. You have the HH series for that.

>then it's worthless fluff isn't it

Worthless in anything but the gist of it. C'tan are old. They are a threat.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:32:43 No.51218641 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218604
>Also, if you intend to footslog would it be better to take a heavy weapon rather than doubling up on special?
Probably yes. Assuming you don't want to MSU.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:33:10 No.51218643 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218634
>the necron because such a widespread threat

Correction, became.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:38:37 No.51218674 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218634
God the English in your post.

You can download and read the goddamn Oldcron codex, you degenerate.

Suffice to say that Old-Necrontyr, who wretched and short lived, after meeting the Old Ones, who were immortal and magnificent, flew in a rage over the injustice of fate and started a war of genocide against the Old Ones.

The war went sour and then the Necrontyr found the C'tan Gods noming the stars. A few deals later, the Necrons were created. The trillions upon trillions of Necrontyr were transformed Necrons. The Necrons vastly outnumbered the Old Ones and their allied races and so the war went. The Old Ones drew more on the Warp to fight back but exploded. The Necron seeing their ancient enemies destroyed by their very own magics that granted them immortality felt vindicated that their cold science was superior.

The C'tan ordered everyone to sleep since the warp horrors were cleansing the galaxy of sentient life. The rest is history.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:38:46 No.51218675 Report

Quoted By: >>51218711

>Don't lie
>You're lying
>Lies
>G-guys, stop l-lying!

I see the Necron Internet Defense Force has arrived, right on schedule.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:39:45 No.51218685 Report

Quoted By: >>51218701

>>51218635

This is either a whole new level of shitty reading comprehension or you're just baiting. What exactly am I "lying" about?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:40:21 No.51218690 Report

Quoted By: >>51218722

I guess you could call them retcrons.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:41:10 No.51218701 Report

Quoted By: >>51218717

>>51218685
>Nobody cares it as hard canon
>right after he took it as hard canon

Please just stop.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:42:37 No.51218711 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218675
Why won't they just lie? The other guy said that Outsider was responsible for the Tyranids in some way when it's never stated anywhere.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:43:26 No.51218715 Report

Quoted By: >>51218729

how many reees would I get if I painted by salamanders to look like they are of European decent?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:43:41 No.51218717 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218701

Where did I take it as hard canon? I said 4 times it wasn't.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:44:12 No.51218722 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218690
You've made your last pun, Mexico

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:46:02 No.51218729 Report

Quoted By: >>51218750

>>51218715
None. Their geneseed changes their skin and eyes, not their facial features.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:48:11 No.51218742 Report

Quoted By: >>51220175

Speaking about lies.

Anon keep saying that the War in Heaven is what screwed the Warp and filled it with daemons and warp monsters. This is false.

The Old Ones constructed the Webway to circumvent the Warp which they viewed as dangerous (Talon of Horus). The Old Ones also built massive planet sized warp prisons to imprison and contain trillions of daemons and warp entities way before the War in Heaven happened (Traitor's Hate/Angel's Blade).

This shows that the Warp wasn't a cheerful and peaceful place as anons claim. But anons will keep saying that bullshit because it fits their C'tan/Necrons did it narrative.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:49:12 No.51218749 Report

Quoted By: >>51218794

hey guys i started watching gameplay videos of eisenhorn xenos (i know the game sucks i just wanted to see how they portrayed the characters etc. as I read the book). now there is an eerie chanting around the cockpit area in the cutter right before they took off for the sun dome. where does it come from? it is not explained in the novel

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:49:17 No.51218750 Report

Quoted By: >>51218986

>>51218729
well I meant paint them white

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:49:32 No.51218751 Report

Quoted By: >>51218759

>>51218151

Because another faceless NPC faction was boring, that's the Tyranids thing

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:50:35 No.51218759 Report

Quoted By: >>51218778

>>51218751
So you are saying that the tyranids are boring?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:53:21 No.51218778 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218759

Tyranids always had recognisable creatures assigned names which is different from having personalities, agendas, goals and subverting the entire factions ethos

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:56:04 No.51218794 Report

Quoted By: >>51218867

>>51218749
Can I just take a moment to lose my fucking shit over the fact that they had a chance to make a good Eisenhorn game with Mark Strong as Eisenhorn and how Colossals they managed to fuck it up?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:56:39 No.51218800 Report

Quoted By: >>51218851

>>51218194
>Where does it say you can do that in the new codex?
Destroyer Lords and most lower rank Crons are effectively the old unthinking kill-bots. There's also no reason why you have to adhere solely to GW precedent, you can fluff your Dynasty/Tomb World as being under control of a C'tan shard and having the upper echelons filled with Destroyers if you want to recreate Oldcrons as closely as possible within the new lore.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 12:57:53 No.51218810 Report

Quoted By:

>>51217728
Lelith is such a fridge

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:00:07 No.51218834 Report

Quoted By: >>51218863 >>51218880

Why does everyone hate finecast?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:01:07 No.51218846 Report

Quoted By: >>51218891

>>51217770

They're wearing power armour. That's the comfortable way to stand with four inches of ceramite between your thighs.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:01:35 No.51218851 Report

Quoted By: >>51218910

>>51218800
>Destroyer Lords and most lower rank Crons are effectively the old unthinking kill-bots.

The fuck? The Destroyer Lords and basically all destroyers are sentient and they can talk. In fact, they coo and laugh as they kill the living. A destroyer character was humming as he was flaying the living. They are lunatics.

Also the most important part of the Destroyers is that they don't acknowledge no authority save their desire to purge all life in the galaxy. They bend their knees to no one partly because they gave no knees!! This what I why you guys lie. You intetionally try to make the Newcrons something that they are not.

And I can can fluff my space marines as girl marines and fill them with ratling shotas and it would be as canon as a C'tan following dynasty.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:02:33 No.51218863 Report

Quoted By: >>51218896 >>51218902

>>51218834
Because resin's fragile, toxic, and easily warps it can often be a pain to prepare.

Finecast in particular because GW had plenty of problems with their resin casts in the early days while they were still figuring it out. There were plenty of horror stories of bubbles, flash, and miscasts floating about online. I guess the reputation has stuck.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:03:17 No.51218867 Report

Quoted By: >>51218890 >>51218952

>>51218794
Was it just gameplay they fucked or is the dialogue horrible as well?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:03:53 No.51218877 Report

Quoted By:

>>51217768

Give them their 5th ed codex back, but change Webway Portal to the current iteration.

Holy shit the new Webway Portal is so good. Venom of blasterborn with one is hilarious.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:04:09 No.51218880 Report

Quoted By: >>51218900

>>51218834
Because it always comes warped, with huge chunks missing from bubbling or missing parts. Assuming it doesn't come with any or all of the above, it will warp if your country has any sort of decent heat during summer. It's soft and easy to break and it gets marked up in price for no fucking reason. Yes I know this is b8.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:04:28 No.51218882 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218524
> New army can do the best things that the orks could do better
> In a flexible way
> MSU enough to not just get wiped out
> Rending
> Did I say rending
> Have Better deffrollas than orks
> Not I2.jpeg
> First turn assault
> Still better at shooting (with their at guns at least)
I just want to die, it's like I'm fighting a war against GW and they keep trying to sell me models that I don't want

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:05:11 No.51218889 Report

Quoted By:

>>51217911
>melee focused armies
>Orks
>Ld7
>I2
LOL

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:05:13 No.51218890 Report

Quoted By: >>51218903 >>51218930

>>51218867
They fucked up the gameplay. It was literally a mobile game they ported so it was one button combat. You can't fuck up dialogue when you're copy and pasting word for word the Eisenhorn books.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:05:14 No.51218891 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218846

So marines have a permanent ceramite wedgie?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:05:38 No.51218896 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218863
First and only resin model I bought was a finecast Castellan Crowe, and his entire hand and the pommel of his sword were bubbly as fuck.
We're talking beyond my ability to repair. I ended up sawing off said hand and pommel, threw the model away two months later because I got so sick of the sword breaking off all the time.

Finecast a shit.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:06:09 No.51218900 Report

Quoted By: >>51218905 >>51218929 >>51218933

>>51218880
Not, just asked because I was looking into getting Coteaz and saw the he was finecast. Wasn't sure what the huge problems were.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:06:34 No.51218902 Report

Quoted By: >>51218945

>>51218863
>toxic
Finecast is non-toxic. My guess is GW doing a non-toxic formulation is one of the major reasons it's so much more fragile.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:06:51 No.51218903 Report

Quoted By: >>51218929

>>51218890
Does it sound convincing, though? Or did people give overly flamboyant performances that make it cringy to listen to?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:07:06 No.51218905 Report

Quoted By: >>51218929 >>51218931

>>51218900
Coteaz's metal.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:07:38 No.51218910 Report

Quoted By: >>51218928

>>51218851
>And I can can fluff my space marines as girl marines and fill them with ratling shotas and it would be as canon as a C'tan following dynasty.
Sure you can anon, they're your dudes.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:08:15 No.51218917 Report

Quoted By:

do warlord traits stack ?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:08:17 No.51218919 Report

Quoted By:

Can unbound and formations be used in the same list? E.g. unbound chaos plus a helbrute mayhem pack?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:09:22 No.51218928 Report

Quoted By: >>51221718

>>51218910
Yep, but the point is what is canon-wise. You cannot write C'tan worshipping Necrons and claim it's fluffy.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:09:32 No.51218929 Report

Quoted By: >>51218940

>>51218905
Not anymore Famalamadingdong. >>51218900
You're better off tracking down a second hand metal version. If a model can be found in metal and it's the same sculpt, just do it. Save yourself the hassle of dealing with Realistic Battle Damage (TM).
>>51218903
From what I saw of it Mark Strong did an ok job at it but that's just his voice in general. Apparently the rest of the cast is hit and miss

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:09:33 No.51218930 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218890
this.
plus they somehow managed to make the character models and animations as bland as possible.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:09:35 No.51218931 Report

Quoted By: >>51218939

>>51218905
No, I have him myself, bought him in October and he's Finecast.

Mine came out fine though.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:10:23 No.51218933 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218900
They've worked out most of the kinks in finecast these days. The major downside with it is that it's extremely fragile, more so than normal resin.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:10:54 No.51218939 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218931
I have him in my hand it's resin.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Grey-Knights-Inquisitor-Coteaz

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:10:58 No.51218940 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218929
I may take a look at the cutscenes then, if anyone's bothered to sit through the entire game and compile them on youtube.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:11:40 No.51218945 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218902

The most toxic material I've worked with has to be Milliput. I touched my eye whilst handling it and my eyelid swole almost completely shut for three days.

Use Kneadatite kids.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:13:07 No.51218952 Report

Quoted By: >>51218977

>>51218867
its also the environments. everything looked the same. for example the Sun Dome in Hubris is described to be almost too bright ot even open your eyes with a plasma ball imitating sunlight. however, in the game it looks like a street lamp

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:14:54 No.51218965 Report

Quoted By:

Hi guys, need ideas here, kitbashing my friend a deathwatch libby out of grey knight, black templar(this is on purpose) and sternguard bits, he's getting a staff but I don't know what to give him in his other hand, at first I thought shotgun but then I saw libs can't take em, any other ideas? He's in power armour not termie if that helps.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:16:36 No.51218975 Report

Quoted By: >>51218996 >>51219003

Can unbound and formations be used in the same list? E.g. unbound chaos plus a helbrute mayhem pack?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:16:41 No.51218976 Report

Quoted By: >>51218993

xth for what I wouldnt give for a movie adaptation of Eisenhorn with Hugo Weaving as Eisenhorn

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:16:57 No.51218977 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218952
Wish the people who had made Space Marine took on Eisenhorn instead. Fuck, I'd be immensely happy to see an Eisenhorn movie trilogy, but that's hoping for a bit much.

Maybe in the future we'll get the Eisenhorn game we deserve.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:16:58 No.51218978 Report

Quoted By: >>51219010

Fall of Cadia epub when?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:18:17 No.51218986 Report

Quoted By: >>51219034

>>51218750
then they're not salamanders.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:18:33 No.51218987 Report

Quoted By: >>51219018 >>51219050

What models i can use to convert in Maiev?
Maybe DE incubis?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:19:23 No.51218993 Report

Quoted By: >>51219105

>>51218976
Weaving's getting a little old now.

I'd prefer Cumberbach as Eisenhorn, Keira Knightley as Bequin, Mark Hamill as Aemos and Tom Hiddleston as Ravenor.
Not sure who'd play Fischig, but Cherubael would definitely have to be played by Andy Serkis.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:19:30 No.51218996 Report

Quoted By: >>51219004

>>51218975
Yes, but you can't have unbound and Detachments.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:20:12 No.51219003 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218975
What do the rules say?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:20:15 No.51219004 Report

Quoted By: >>51219033

>>51218996
Formations ARE detachments.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:20:44 No.51219010 Report

Quoted By: >>51219020 >>51219021 >>51219023 >>51220024 >>51220063

>>51218978
Now if somebody tells me what's the thing in Cawl's ship that got Abaddon so worked up that he stopped drinking wine from clone Horus's skull and broke a table in two before ordering the Black Fleet to sail after them with haste.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:21:43 No.51219018 Report

Quoted By: >>51219025

>>51218987
Kneadatite and a loaded gun

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:21:53 No.51219020 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219010
Living Sigismund :P.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:21:59 No.51219021 Report

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>>51219010
Nobody knows.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:22:27 No.51219023 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219010
His arms

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:22:35 No.51219025 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219018
Dont understand this joke

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:23:07 No.51219033 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219004
You can't have the command benefits of the detachment. Rendering most such non-formation detachments pointless.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:23:14 No.51219034 Report

Quoted By: >>51219041

>>51218986
I'm gonna do it anyways

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:24:14 No.51219040 Report

Quoted By: >>51219092

>>51218134
There is a way of thinking where both the Mechanicus and the church should work together.

Can't recall the name

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:24:32 No.51219041 Report

Quoted By: >>51219068

>>51219034
Then why ask about others people opinion on it ?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:24:50 No.51219044 Report

Quoted By: >>51219064 >>51219100

Are DEldar as totally unforgiving to play as 1d4chan makes out?

Because I'm new and really want to play them, but I don't want to spend every single game getting dicked on. I know they're fragile, but that page makes it seem like every single game with them is an uphill battle.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:25:12 No.51219048 Report

Quoted By:

do the people in the adeptus mechanicus actually have sex or are all the people vat-born?
sex seems like the most blasphemic thing to do for them

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:25:27 No.51219050 Report

Quoted By: >>51219088 >>51219093 >>51219129

>>51218987
Celestine or one of the Gemini plus a Kabalite helmet would give you a fairly close match, then all you need it to sculpt a little with greenstuff.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:25:52 No.51219053 Report

Quoted By:

Got word from a GW employee that a new Necromunda is in the works. Can't wait.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:26:53 No.51219064 Report

Quoted By: >>51219085

>>51219044
No they are kinda durable to small arms fire, they will perish against strong weaponry but by the time it can mulch through your stuff you will likely have destroyed it

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:27:12 No.51219068 Report

Quoted By: >>51220001

>>51219041
idk. I really just want to paint them green and care about the common man fluff wise. maybe ill just make my own chapter

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:28:27 No.51219085 Report

Quoted By: >>51219107 >>51219127

>>51219064

>No they are kinda durable to small arms fire

ha ha no

Everything in DEldar can die to bolters. They're probably the army that's most vulnerable to small arms.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:28:41 No.51219088 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219050
Unless he can put 3 wounds relaiblly. In a 1v1 scenario with them just using their data sheets and nothing else.

Celestine wins by attrition.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:29:06 No.51219092 Report

Quoted By: >>51219116

>>51219040
It was the something heresy, which was a civil war that ended up purging any who thought the Ecclisiarchy and AdMech should become one, iirc.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:29:19 No.51219093 Report

Quoted By: >>51219109 >>51219129

>>51219050
> Don't understand this joke.jpeg

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:30:26 No.51219100 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219044
So long as you keep your units cheap (as much as they can be without compromising their usefulness), small and mobile you'll have no problems.

Remember to always target artillery and markerlights first. Anything that removes your cover is a big issue to every flavour of Elf, but you especially.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:31:28 No.51219105 Report

Quoted By: >>51219120 >>51219767

>>51218993
I disagree with Cumberbach simply because I hate his face. Something feels alien about him.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:31:33 No.51219107 Report

Quoted By: >>51219117

>>51219085
After playing against my friends DE army since 5th I tend to find the thing that screws over DE the most/easiest is flamers, any kind.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:31:47 No.51219109 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219093
I thought your post was asking how you'd convert a model of Maiev, and that was my suggestion.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:32:45 No.51219116 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219092
I recall there still some left. You can fluff the AM, S and AS working together using that.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:32:48 No.51219117 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219107

They're even more vulnerable now. If a flamer even touches a gunboat, D6 hits.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:32:54 No.51219120 Report

Quoted By: >>51219146

>>51219105
Genestealer, then?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:33:09 No.51219127 Report

Quoted By: >>51219140

>>51219085
*ahem*
Oh yeah its not like all other armies have units that can easily die to bolters
> Guardsmen
> All orks
> Cultists
> All little 'nids
> Grots
> Scouts
> Rangers
> Howling banshees
> Guardians
> Storm guardians
> actually all eldar units that aren't used in comp lists
> Trukks
> Most (unused) walkers
Oh whats that? Most of these units are unused since they die to bolters
Woah

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:33:13 No.51219129 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219050
Old celestine? This can be good idea. And i didnt write this >>51219093

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:34:43 No.51219140 Report

Quoted By: >>51219164 >>51219416

>>51219127

Want to play that game with Dark Eldar?

>Literally
>Every
>Single
>Unit
>They
>Have

Oh no, your cultists will die to bolters! That must be terrifying for your T6 bikers.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:35:10 No.51219146 Report

Quoted By: >>51219157 >>51219161

>>51219120
Cumberbach would work amazingly as an Eldar. Distinctly humanoid but something is different about the face that makes him kinda alien.
Didn't Ravenor work with an Eldar?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:36:41 No.51219157 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219146
Ravenor sucks ass (both the series and the character).

Only the first two Eisenhorn books are good.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:37:03 No.51219161 Report

Quoted By: >>51219239

>>51219146

Cumberbatch and Tilda Swinton would both be perfect as Eldar.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:37:33 No.51219164 Report

Quoted By: >>51219182 >>51219203

>>51219140
The point was that a lot of those units you'll find are quite viable.

Dying to bolters doesn't mean shit if you can blast from longer than they can or faster than they can retaliate.

The point is that units aren't bad because they die easily.
Have you seen an eldar CAD without storm guardians

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:38:56 No.51219175 Report

Quoted By: >>51219189 >>51219255

im really new to the 40k universe. why are people hating on the recent fall of cadia storyline? is not as good as the ones before?
how often does such a development occur?
is this now considered the 8th edition?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:39:24 No.51219181 Report

Quoted By: >>51221859

I think what pisses me off most about the new Thousand Sons rules, is that they do absolutely fuck all for regular Mark of Tzeentch Chaos Space Marines. +1 Invuln when Blessed does fuck all when only a tiny fraction of your army will ever be blessed.

So, what do you do for Thousand Sons legion rules that help Rubric Marines and Sorcerers but are also worthwhile for other Tzeentch CSM? I think giving everything with VotLW a 6+ Invulnerable would help, since that way all the power armor CSM would have at least a 5++, but that doesn't really help that much.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:39:25 No.51219182 Report

Quoted By: >>51219198

>>51219164
I use Storm Guardians as discount melta/flamer delivery regularly
They're actually pretty effective, and actually decent in melee if you give them power swords. The Stormhost makes them a fairly viable choice imo

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:39:58 No.51219189 Report

Quoted By: >>51219945

>>51219175
Only loyalist scum hate it

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:40:33 No.51219198 Report

Quoted By: >>51219213

>>51219182
I was saying that they were good

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:40:44 No.51219203 Report

Quoted By: >>51219210

>>51219164

>Dying to bolters doesn't mean shit if you can blast from longer than they can

That's the problem. Now Dark Lances are garbage, DEldar now have to get within their opponent's range for that famous alpha strike. Except it means the alpha strike is garbage because they open themselves up to retaliation.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:42:16 No.51219210 Report

Quoted By: >>51219251 >>51219295

>>51219203
> web way portal
> Venom with double splinter cannons and blasterborn
> Opponent survives

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:42:27 No.51219213 Report

Quoted By: >>51219236

>>51219198
They are good but nobody thinks they are, they get memed on as the worst unit in the codex all the time
Sorry for the misunderstanding friendo

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:44:14 No.51219228 Report

Quoted By: >>51219287

>>51217801

New DE book soon? with buffs and good again?

Shit, there goes my savings, all into minis and whores, because gotta have some orgies to celebrate that.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:45:08 No.51219236 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219213
> Worst unit in the codex
> but guardians exist
> also 2 5 point special weapons at an 8 sized squad with ability for an excellent transport
It actually annoys me how good the eldar codex is when these guys are considered bad

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:45:16 No.51219239 Report

Quoted By: >>51219266

>>51219161
As long as we can't clone Bowie.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:47:13 No.51219251 Report

Quoted By: >>51219288

>>51219210

Alright, let's add this up.

>Archon with WWP
>5-man Trueborn, 4 blasters
>Venom

265 points. For one unit to be killed, before the DEldar unit gets wiped out turn 2 because you've put yourself in range. And the archon is probably warlord too, so even more benefit to shooting at the unit ASAP.

Oh boy, I sure do love paying more than a land raider to help the opponent win the game.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:47:39 No.51219255 Report

Quoted By: >>51219299

>>51219175
>im really new to the 40k universe. why are people hating on the recent fall of cadia storyline?
Certain people like different stuff hate different stuff. Some people wanted Abaddon to be more badass/successful/personally responsible for the fall, some people wanted the storyline to be more logical as a military campaign, some people wanted Cadians Shock Troopers to be a bigger part, some people don't like women in their 40k. There's no one reason. Almost all fluff will have people who don't like it for one reason or another.

>is not as good as the ones before?
It's pretty typical writing wise. The events seem like they will matter more long term though.

>how often does such a development occur?
Campaigns have been occuring every year recently. But the past ones have mostly just been "Imperium wins at the last minute things go back to normal". A more advancing plot with lasting consequences is a new thing.

>is this now considered the 8th edition?
No. Editions are denoted by a new main rulebook release.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:48:25 No.51219266 Report

Quoted By: >>51219342

>>51219239
TFW we will never see Bowie as Eldrad

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:50:31 No.51219287 Report

Quoted By: >>51219303

>>51219228
>New DE book soon? with buffs and good again?
No, the next Gathering Storm campaign book has a bunch of Eldar special characters and presumably eldar detachments. Still a good new detachment could help out DE a lot.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:50:43 No.51219288 Report

Quoted By: >>51219319 >>51219333

>>51219251
> 2+ invuln when you disembark
> delete a squad per turn
> delete a vehicle per turn
> implying that this is the only unit you have on the board when you could have three of these squads, all eliminating high threat targets
> 265 points is too much for a unit that can do stuff
> This is just the codex creep talking here, the unit is fine if it weren't for new waac shit appearing

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:51:50 No.51219295 Report

Quoted By: >>51219323

>>51219210
Aren't Venoms only 5 man capacity?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:52:15 No.51219299 Report

Quoted By: >>51219318

>>51219255
>Abaddon to be more badass/successful/personally responsible for the fall,

Abaddon is responsible for the Fall. He crashed the the moon sized remnants of the Blackstone Fortress in Cadia. Destroying the planet and ruining the Pylon plan.

That's why Abaddon tells Creed that the planets fate is sealed regardless of what happens on the ground.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:52:46 No.51219303 Report

Quoted By: >>51219964

>>51219287
>mfw Eldar Gathering Storm revives Vect's Wraith Raider Rental
>mfw Banshees in Venoms
>mfw nobody will care if it's cheese because Eldar was already top cheese

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:54:57 No.51219318 Report

Quoted By: >>51219467

>>51219299

Yeah. I think both sides got a decent showing in it.

The Imperials pulled out trick after trick and showed some real skill. Abbaddon actually won though by flipping the table over when he didn't like how it was going.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:55:00 No.51219319 Report

Quoted By: >>51219333 >>51219334

>>51219288

Again: You get literally one turn if your opponent isn't suffering from a massive head injury. Because they'll realize "Hey if I so much as look at that unit with S7 weaponry, which every army is dripping with now, it'll disappear".

You get one turn to work, which is one unit deleted, before they get deleted themselves.

Yes, it's a unit that can do stuff. For one turn.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:55:28 No.51219323 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219295
You can deep strike the venoms regardless and you can still pull the same tricks with one of jabbas lost barges a raider

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:56:12 No.51219333 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219288
>>51219319

Also, you can have one of these units. Because the WWP is necessary to pull it off, and those are unique.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:56:18 No.51219334 Report

Quoted By: >>51219341

>>51219319
Don't worry, bro, I'll gladly have cripple fights against you with my Thousand Sons.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:58:00 No.51219341 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219334

I'm coming to steal your shiny golden goodies!

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 13:58:01 No.51219342 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219266

>No Ziggy Starbane and the Warp Spiders from Altansar

Stop making me sad...

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:00:25 No.51219357 Report

Quoted By: >>51219374 >>51219376

Strange question,
Should storm bolters be buffed?
I know a lot of units have the option for them but they seem to be really crap to the point where no unit outside a rhino uses them.

Its really a shame because terminators with storm bolters are so cool

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:03:03 No.51219369 Report

Quoted By:

I wanted to pick 40K but now I am not so sure...

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:03:37 No.51219374 Report

Quoted By: >>51219387 >>51219395

>>51219357
Sure, bump them up to Salvo 2/4. Makes them worthwhile as an upgrade for dakka Sergeants, gives Terminators an offensive output more commensurate with their cost, makes the Stormbolters strapped onto all Imperial vehicles less of a joke.

Then, just give Grey Knights their own special boltguns, like BA with the Angelus.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:04:08 No.51219376 Report

Quoted By: >>51219387

>>51219357
I think Heavy Bolters and Storm Bolters could use a buff.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:05:36 No.51219387 Report

Quoted By: >>51219404 >>51219410

>>51219374
>>51219376

And Heavy Bolters should be Salvo 3/5.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:07:02 No.51219395 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219374
Between psybolts and force weapons being canon, you'd think Grey Knights would have some way of buffing their own weapons through psychic powers of some kind.
That would probably require a new psychic discipline but hey, space marines already have like 4

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:08:05 No.51219404 Report

Quoted By: >>51219544 >>51222006

>>51219387
I think Heavy Bolters should be heavy but devs should be able to salvo them.

Maybe if they had some kind of explosive ammunition or pinning or something cool like that?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:08:53 No.51219410 Report

Quoted By: >>51219422

>>51219387
Pretty much all of the Space Marine heavy weapons should be Salvo. Make all the single shot ones just Salvo 1/1, and make the Heavy Bolter Salvo 3/5.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:09:25 No.51219416 Report

Quoted By: >>51219433

>>51219140
Talos/chronos dieing to bolters?
Burn your dice mate.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:10:35 No.51219422 Report

Quoted By: >>51219432 >>51219452 >>51219502

>>51219410

>Salvo 1/1

wat

that's just Assault 1

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:11:41 No.51219432 Report

Quoted By: >>51219452 >>51219463

>>51219422
You can't charge after firing a Salvo weapon. It's a huge, pointless nerf that makes bolt pistols pure garbage.

And I say this as a xenos player who's only ever been on the receiving end of them.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:11:43 No.51219433 Report

Quoted By: >>51219465 >>51219752

>>51219416
S4 Vs T7
Will blend on 6s.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:14:26 No.51219452 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219422
Can't charge, and it gives the weapons a variable range based on whether you moved or not.

>>51219432
Nice reading comprehension.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:15:16 No.51219463 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219432
> heavy weapon
> bolt pistol
He was talking about devastators and the ilk

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:15:28 No.51219465 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219433
Death Guard bikers will also be wounded on 6's.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:15:37 No.51219467 Report

Quoted By: >>51219493 >>51219513

>>51219318
I think it was more like Armless the Harmless pussed out like a bitch. It was only the Imperials overreaching that caused their own loss.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:18:42 No.51219492 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218338
>>51218389
Don't buy centurions, dark angels can't field them. What you have to do is simply visiting gws website, clicking on warhammer 40k and checking the dark angels box on the left. Then pick the stuff you want and buy it somewhere else where you'll get %.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:18:54 No.51219493 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219467
Abaddon was defeated by an old man missing an arm and a wounded, powerless and weakened woman.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:19:51 No.51219502 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219422
Can't charge after salvo, also half range if move.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:20:42 No.51219513 Report

Quoted By: >>51219569 >>51219591

>>51219467
Don't be a jackass. The Imperium had nothing to do with them losing. Abaddon crashed the Blackstone on their heads.

The guys who reported the pylon was the thing that caused Cadia to expolde were wrong. The Pylons didn't overload. The destruction of the planey caused the pylon network to shattered and the black beam that kept the Eye away to cease. The Eye surged worth and consumed Cadia.

Abaddon won but he couldn't break Cadia's spirit so he resolved into breaking its back into two literally.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:24:20 No.51219544 Report

Quoted By: >>51219610

>>51219404
>power creep has left X behind so let's buff X up to new extremes
This mindset is what's killing 40k, nerf the relentless, ignores cover, ap2.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:25:27 No.51219555 Report

Quoted By:

>>51217770
its called horse stance. little known fact, but space marines also practice kung fu

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:26:43 No.51219564 Report

Quoted By: >>51219609

>>51217866
>give infantry shoot'n'scoot rule from Eldar, sicne DE should be faster anyways

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:27:19 No.51219569 Report

Quoted By: >>51219798

>>51219513
Don't be a retard. Abby the armless ended up jobbing again so the Imperium could scrape another non!defeat.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:28:57 No.51219589 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218582
Don't forget the ecclesiarchy relic that gives 4+ invul and no deepstrike bubble

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:29:06 No.51219591 Report

Quoted By: >>51219620 >>51219798

>>51219513
Cadia Broke before the Guard.

That makes Abaddon an even bigger failure.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:29:38 No.51219594 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218228
Care to elaborate?
I met him last month and he seemed like a nice fellow.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:30:33 No.51219604 Report

Quoted By:

>>51218228
Can you elaborate on Chambers' path that he wanted to force 40k down?
I started playing in 3rd edition, so I don't have an idea of how Chambers changed things.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:30:50 No.51219609 Report

Quoted By: >>51219654

>>51219564
If DE are dismounted they're probably in enough trouble that d6" of movement won't help them.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:30:50 No.51219610 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219544
I think heavy bolter devs have always been left behind autocannons and lascannons.

I was just proposing a way to actually internally (within the squad) balance the weapon.

Its the same reason no one takes termies because storm bolters are bad. The units need to actually be able to compete with eachother to be playable, and that can be achieved through buffs and nerfs, but I think TH/SS termies are fine right now so the other termies should be able to compete with them in a meaningful way.

Yes I completely agree with you that ignores cover and ap2 is way too prevalent, but heavy bolters and storm bolters don't bear relation to this and have never actually been equivocal to their other weapon choices.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:32:32 No.51219620 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219591

>Abaddon's aim is to destroy Cadia
>Cadian's job is to defend it
>Cadia blows up
>'LOOKS LIKE ABADDON FAILED AGAIN'

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:34:17 No.51219643 Report

Quoted By: >>51219726

>>51217771

This desu, would at least work better for Deldar. Also Inquisimunda needs to be more popular.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:35:10 No.51219647 Report

Quoted By: >>51219659 >>51219661 >>51219663 >>51219664 >>51219672

What's the easiest faction to paint

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:35:47 No.51219654 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219609
Might help them get into some cover and not get chopped to haggis.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:36:17 No.51219658 Report

Quoted By: >>51219671 >>51219688 >>51219699 >>51219709 >>51219809

Ok, if Khorne has a great brass scorpion, what do the other three have?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:36:18 No.51219659 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219647
necron

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:36:52 No.51219661 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219647
Space Marines. Specifically metallic schemed ones like Silver Skulls.

Necrons.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:36:55 No.51219663 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219647

Necrons.

>Prime
>Spray silver
>Wash Nuln Oil

Done.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:37:02 No.51219664 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219647
Space Marines. Plenty of large, flat surfaces and most of their details are pretty big.

Or Tyranids, since you can just prime with white and paint everything in washes and still achieve a nice look.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:38:02 No.51219671 Report

Quoted By: >>51219694

>>51219658
Silver Tower
Castigator(?)
Plague Hulk

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:38:12 No.51219672 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219647
space marines

but not Space Wolves or Blood Angels or Dark Angels

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:40:46 No.51219688 Report

Quoted By: >>51219699 >>51219709

>>51219658

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:41:16 No.51219694 Report

Quoted By: >>51219706

>>51219671

None of those seem to be animal-themed superheavy daemon engines.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:41:47 No.51219699 Report

Quoted By: >>51219709 >>51219719

>>51219658
>>51219688

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:42:41 No.51219706 Report

Quoted By: >>51219727

>>51219694
Why said anything about animal-themed?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:42:50 No.51219709 Report

Quoted By: >>51219732 >>51219746

>>51219658
>>51219688
>>51219699

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:44:07 No.51219719 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219699

>Fire lord

>Gigantic Phoenix-plane with flamethrower wings

That's more like it!

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:45:21 No.51219726 Report

Quoted By: >>51219741

>>51219643

Reminds me, what is 40kg's thoughts on Inquisimunda?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:45:22 No.51219727 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219706

I thought that was implied in specifying Brass Scorpion, but I can see how it could have been interpreted wider than that so won't call you an idiot.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:45:45 No.51219732 Report

Quoted By: >>51219800

>>51219709
>nurgle tzeench and khorne get cool things

>slaanesh just gets knights

o-ok

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:46:47 No.51219741 Report

Quoted By: >>51219770

>>51219726
it's shit, inquisitor was never good, the FFG 40k RPGs are better

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:47:19 No.51219746 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219709

>Hell Knights are the Doom Flamingo of Slaanesh

I think I'm in love.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:47:47 No.51219752 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219433
What I meant is if your loosing talos/chronos to bolters your failing your 3+/5(4)+++ so much you should burn your dice and start again.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:48:35 No.51219759 Report

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>>51217764
so you fuck lelith, then die. a reasonable trade.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:49:40 No.51219767 Report

Quoted By: >>51222014

>>51219105
Maybe not Cumberbach, but then who? And you're forbidden from nominating Hugo Weaving purely because of the cover art.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:49:59 No.51219770 Report

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>>51219741
>you will never get to play a D10 skirmish 40k game based on FFG RPG rules

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:52:40 No.51219798 Report

Quoted By: >>51220362

>>51219569
The Imperium was defeated, you cunt. HE blew up Cadia.

>>51219591
Except we have NUMEROUS examples in the book of Cadians breaking and fleeing for their lives. It was only Celestine's powers that kept them afloat.

Only the 8th regiment stood its ground to the last because they had faith in Creed more than anything.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:52:54 No.51219800 Report

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>>51219732
>plague tower
>cauldron of blood
>cool

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:53:29 No.51219809 Report

Quoted By: >>51219816 >>51219823

>>51219658
Why does Khorne like scorpions anyway, poisoning (venom-ing?) people doesn't seem like his thing.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:54:30 No.51219814 Report

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Someone phone forge world and tell them to put literally everything on hold so their entire staff can work round the clock to bring us slaaneshi daemon engine flamingoes in imperial knight scale.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:54:42 No.51219816 Report

Quoted By: >>51219835 >>51219850 >>51219872

>>51219809
Yeah he should really like crabs, they even have 8 legs

:^)

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:55:55 No.51219823 Report

Quoted By: >>51219872

>>51219809

Scorpions have 8 legs, and unlike spiders also have huge fuck-off claws and a stinger.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:57:26 No.51219835 Report

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>>51219816

Shells for the shell throne

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 14:59:45 No.51219850 Report

Quoted By: >>51219867 >>51219872

>>51219816

No no, crabs have 10 legs, two of which are specialised as claws.

Scorpions on the other hand have 8 legs, but their claws are actually overdeveloped mouthparts.

Khorne can appreciate how metal it is that Scorpions have evolved a mouth that can punch, stab and crush you all at once.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:00:24 No.51219854 Report

Quoted By: >>51220024

>Fall of Cadia released yesterday
>nowhere to fucking find
how can it be?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:01:35 No.51219867 Report

Quoted By: >>51219901

>>51219850

Also, if you put a drop of alcohol on a Scorpion's back, it will stab itself to death with it's own stinger.

That is how much Scorpions distain slaaneshi decadence like drug abuse.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:02:20 No.51219872 Report

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>>51219850
>>51219823
>>51219816
nah nah nah. you're getting it all wrong. long ago, khorne watched the first animals fight. the scorpion won, so khorne adopted him. simple.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:03:53 No.51219886 Report

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Which fuckface made the "newest" DEldar codex again?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:05:57 No.51219901 Report

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>>51219867

Observe this decadent slaaneshi fuck.

Pointless ornamentation. Wallowing in trinkets whilst being a fat smug fuck who eats fish all day.

I bet he does not even lift. Disgraceful.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:07:08 No.51219916 Report

Quoted By: >>51219917 >>51219921 >>51219943 >>51219944

How is GW doing financially recently?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:07:20 No.51219917 Report

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>>51219916
good

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:07:55 No.51219921 Report

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>>51219916
they've managed to convince a horde of sweaty nerds to pay exorbitant amounts of cash for plastic models. how the fuck do you think they're doing.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:08:53 No.51219932 Report

Quoted By: >>51220094

Would this help Dark Eldar?

>All units recieve a One-Use Combat Drug
>Wyches increase charge distance and gives +1 WS
>Warriors get +1 BS and Precision Shots
>Incubi get Feel No Pain(5+) and +1 Attack
>Other units get one of the above, or slight variations

The idea is that Dark Eldar become THE alpha striking army. If units get into position, pop their combat drugs and choose the right target near the beginning of the game, then they can cripple the enemy enough to coast the rest of the game. If they muck up though, then you'll be struggling to scratch out a win.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:09:22 No.51219942 Report

Quoted By: >>51219957

"Now look at this Iron Cage, that I just found, when I say brap, be ready to trap!"

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:09:25 No.51219943 Report

Quoted By: >>51220067

>>51219916
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/01/10/profits-soar-games-workshop-fantasy-model-retailer-battles-back/

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:09:27 No.51219944 Report

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>>51219916

They've upticked under new management.

Turns out the dumbass everyone said was running the company into the ground was in fact running the company into the ground.

Who knew?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:09:48 No.51219945 Report

Quoted By: >>51219956

>>51219189

I'm a IG-player and I really enjoyed reading the book. And here is the problem, I read the book. Most people who hate it did not.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:10:10 No.51219948 Report

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So I had my first game against Genecults yesterday, allied to another Admech player (Who was a dick) who brought Cawl.
Cawl is good, toasted a Chimera, two Sentinels and really didn't care about anything.

Genecults got both of my Skitarii units, my Inquisitor and half my Kataphrons by turn 2, I spent a lot of time walking around the store while the other guy shot stuff or genecults threw ineffective autopistol fire at the Breachers and Kastelans. Had to end it at the start of T3, just after all my units had finally got in a position to do stuff. I spent most of the time talking to the Nids player allied to the genecults, who was cool while the GSC summoned about 45 Genestealers for free. Not the best game ever, I will say.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:10:45 No.51219956 Report

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>>51219945
I said scum, not normal peoples

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:10:53 No.51219957 Report

Quoted By: >>51219962 >>51219968

>>51219942

>Doesn't fit the pacing of the song
>Referencing a successful villain plot with those guys
>Not an Alpharius reference

0/10.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:11:50 No.51219962 Report

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>>51219957
read the filename dude. it's b8

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:12:12 No.51219964 Report

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>>51219303
I just hope I get a powerful formation that I can run with just DE/Harlies. I'd like to avoid Craftworld Eldar as much as I can.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:12:51 No.51219968 Report

Quoted By: >>51219993

>>51219957
Let's hear your's then, fag

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:14:17 No.51219986 Report

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>>51217801
The thumbnail made it look like a HUE face.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:15:39 No.51219993 Report

Quoted By: >>51220640

>>51219968
>Implying that a critic has to be good at what they're critiquing.

It helps, but it's unnecessary.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:16:42 No.51220001 Report

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>>51219068
Psst...Lamenters or Crimson fists

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:16:50 No.51220004 Report

Quoted By: >>51220018 >>51220038

>>51217728
Have a 750pt game coming up and need help filling in the last 100pts of my list, can anyone help?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:18:31 No.51220018 Report

Quoted By: >>51220072

>>51220004
33 Brimstone Horrors.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:19:10 No.51220024 Report

Quoted By: >>51220048

>>51219854
see >>51219010

What's inside the box?!

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:20:44 No.51220038 Report

Quoted By: >>51220072

>>51220004
Sorcerer ML2 mark of tzeentch

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:22:21 No.51220048 Report

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>>51220024
Plot Armor
THEY HAVE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR IN THE BOX.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:23:44 No.51220063 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219010
Pics of when Abaddon was in a 30k frat doing weird shit.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:24:36 No.51220067 Report

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>>51219943
i dont play fantasy but arent those knights from bretonnia, an army that is currently not being sold anymore?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:25:12 No.51220072 Report

Quoted By: >>51220127 >>51220190

>>51220018
>>51220038
How does this look?

Worried about the Sorcerer though, most guys at my club don't know how to deal with psykers and i'd feel a bit cheaty to have him there.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:28:15 No.51220094 Report

Quoted By: >>51220105

>>51219932
>3+ hour long game
>at most 10% of matters
Sounds like loads of fun.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:29:12 No.51220105 Report

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>>51220094
>implying most games aren't decided turn 2, 3 at most
>implying this isn't doubly true with DE

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:29:20 No.51220108 Report

Quoted By: >>51220117 >>51220157

Where's a good place to get servitors? I need some for my Baneblade's Autokrator crew, some to man the artillery and some to work with the Enginseers, and that adds up to about 15.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:30:13 No.51220116 Report

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I want Creed to return soon (hopefully with a new mini)

:(

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:30:22 No.51220117 Report

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>>51220108
Bits sites and/or someone breaking down Techmarine boxes on Ebay.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:31:17 No.51220127 Report

Quoted By: >>51220130 >>51220138 >>51220139

>>51220072
So taking Magnus is fine, but a ML2 Psyker is over the line for Psychic powers?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:31:39 No.51220130 Report

Quoted By:

>>51220127
baited

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:32:53 No.51220138 Report

Quoted By: >>51220185

>>51220127
Wow, easy troll!

I guess it's true /tg/ is the easiest board to troll.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:32:59 No.51220139 Report

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>>51220127
>taking bait this obvious
To what standard has /tg/ fallen that shit like that actually gets (You)s?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:34:25 No.51220157 Report

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>>51220108
You can get the FW servitors, but that would cost a fair bit.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Mechanicum-Magos-Macrotek-Enginseer-Servo-automata

REAAAAL expensive.

Look sexy as fuck tho. Same with their Tech Priest.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:35:41 No.51220169 Report

Quoted By:

New thread
>>51220159
I10
>>51220159
Leave bait at the door
>>51220159
>hurr we aren't even on page 10
Thread has slowed down, time for a new one

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:35:50 No.51220171 Report

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Fall of Cadia epub yet?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:36:16 No.51220175 Report

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>>51218742
So, what you're saying is that the Old Ones fixed everything, and then the Necrontyr ruined it all?

Thanks for clarifying the situation.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:37:09 No.51220185 Report

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>>51220138
Surely I would have to be mad for that to work, I was just puzzled at the logic behind it. It's not like there aren't people that ignorant.

Now i see it was designed that way.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:37:37 No.51220190 Report

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>>51220072
Looks good.
Don't worry, they will learn or they will lose.
Have a nice game.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 15:56:04 No.51220362 Report

Quoted By: >>51221965 >>51222909

>>51219798
That didn't happen because it was fucking stupid.

Chaos forces fueled by chaos lose their chaos power. Are now stronger than the dude that do not use chaos... The fuck?

Can we just agree the FoC was retarded as fuck. Not because Cadia exploded but how everything that happen there was so mentally retarded it hurt to read.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 16:25:18 No.51220640 Report

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>>51219993
So, you can't come up with a better one?
Then shut up and take my bad parody in your ass.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 16:59:29 No.51220988 Report

Quoted By: >>51221051

only loyalist scum chapters worth playing are marines malevolent and space sharks

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 17:04:14 No.51221051 Report

Quoted By: >>51221221

>>51220988
>look everyone, I'm edgy

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 17:17:44 No.51221221 Report

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>>51221051
>liik ivryin, I'm idgy

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 17:40:57 No.51221547 Report

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>>51218432
well warhammer wood elves are pretty badass, so wood elves in spehss may be too

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 17:51:52 No.51221718 Report

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>>51218928
why not ? just say it's a shard that mind-control the space-skellies. I mean, there is nothing saying it can't be in the new lore.
The whole point of the newcron is that you can make your dudes, why limiting yourself ?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 17:55:11 No.51221780 Report

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>>51218228
>e was obsessed with forcing the setting down a path of his choosing, and left in a tantrum when the higher ups told him he couldn't.
Why haven't they told Crud and Ward the same thing?

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 18:01:00 No.51221859 Report

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>>51219181
Just give everyone an aura of daek glory? And let them upgrade their sargent to a psyker for 25 points.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 18:09:35 No.51221965 Report

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>>51220362
Well it really shows the degeneracy of the imperium and how desperate they are. To even out the fight they have to rely on the powers of the chaos gods more than the black legion has to. Similar to the Rowboat/Alpharius incident

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 18:12:34 No.51222006 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219404
Poison or random ap might help.

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 18:13:01 No.51222014 Report

Quoted By:

>>51219767
Litreally Mark Strong

Anonymous Sun 15 Jan 2017 19:27:01 No.51222909 Report

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>>51220362
Even without their warp bullshit, Chaos Space Marines are still Space Marines, and they were fighting a bunch of normal humans (with a relative handful of mildly superhuman cyborgs thrown in).

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