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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 21:31:06 2017 No.52470557 View View Reply Original Report

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Shitpost or be shiposted it all serves /pol edition

previous thread
>>52467297

>Daily Duncan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZf8ULSydw [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!z4wmmJyR!jTfwLczhdFjV0q6nowtGag!qgZhmAhK

>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:33:04 No.52470608 Report

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Shadow war rules here

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:33:48 No.52470629 Report

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Anyone happen to have the new White Dwarf?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:34:46 No.52470655 Report

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>>52470608
But we are still missing the general rules.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:35:39 No.52470681 Report

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>>52470608
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

Thanks man you legend!

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:35:47 No.52470682 Report

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>>52470557
Hows this for a 1500 point game against Necrons?

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:37:55 No.52470732 Report

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>>52470655

I think White Dwarf has a bit and the fact it's called Killteams it must have a similar core rule set to Killteam.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:41:52 No.52470804 Report

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>>52470681
>You legend

It's on the GW site.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:42:13 No.52470814 Report

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How's my list?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:42:36 No.52470820 Report

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>>52470682
Honest question, do you have the codex? Because unless you cocked up with listbuilder, it's quite illegal.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:42:47 No.52470822 Report

Quoted By: >>52470977 >>52471506

>>52470557
There already is a general made, and it doesn't have this faggy header.
>>52466832
>>52466832
>>52466832

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:43:14 No.52470833 Report

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>>52470608

no imperial guard

meh

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:46:50 No.52470900 Report

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>>52470758
>Orks are so terrible at shooting they're more likely to kill themselves in shame than to actually hit their target

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:47:04 No.52470904 Report

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>>52470833
No guard, no sisters, no buy.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:48:24 No.52470924 Report

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>>52470557
Stop splitting people up with your diversion threads
The real general has more people already and its older.

>>52466832
>>52466832

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:50:15 No.52470948 Report

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>>52470833

I think you can only the find it in base rules.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:51:13 No.52470971 Report

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>>52470924
>Last thread: >>52467297
>This thread created to as continuation of last
> This thread: >>52466832 was made for a thread before last
>It's literally a diversion/split

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:51:30 No.52470977 Report

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>>52470924
>>52470822
Fuck off, stop desperately spamming your shitty thread.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:52:31 No.52470992 Report

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>>52470820
Not just yet. I've always played fantasy/AoS but my cousin gave me his Dark Angel army. Just used what the listbuilder said I could use, what needs to change?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:55:24 No.52471042 Report

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>>52470820
>>52470992
Just realised, missed off my assault squad. Changing that Ravenwing squad to plain bikes and landspeeder, figured I could use the upgraded better models but it doesnt say I can.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:57:52 No.52471078 Report

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>>52471042
>>52470992
>>52470820
>>52470682

How about now?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:00:54 No.52471125 Report

Quoted By: >>52471160 >>52471164 >>52471177 >>52471226

>>52470608
>marks of chaos
So let me get this right, all models in the chaos team have this rule and you just pick one?

There is no difference in points between +1 toughness and shitty, barely used +1 initiative from Slaanesh?
>tfw when emperors children

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:01:17 No.52471131 Report

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>>52470924
If you want people to post in your thread, get the fucking title right. You fucked up, it doesn't get filtered properly in the catalogue. Nobody can be bothered dealing with manually hunting down your abortion of a thread. Just let it sink to the bottom and stop reminding people what a failure you are.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:03:51 No.52471160 Report

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>>52471125
not the cultists, and you need I for several things in SWA.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:04:05 No.52471164 Report

Quoted By: >>52471209 >>52471244 >>52471276

>>52471125
>So let me get this right, all models in the chaos team have this rule and you just pick one?
No, only the special operators get it. But yes, you can choose a good one or a bad one.

Note that Initiative does different stuff in this ruleset: it determines things like not falling off buildings and spotting hidden enemies rather than who goes first in close combat. Also extra attacks are basically useless, because they give you more chances to reduce your combat score with fumbles.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:05:01 No.52471177 Report

Quoted By: >>52471219

>>52471125
Not only that, but dudes with MoN can all take Blight Grenades as well.

The only other thing I could see someone doing would be taking MoT for Inferno bolts for an anti-armor potential.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:06:31 No.52471196 Report

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>>52470557
Im looking for hero of the imperium pdf, anyone has one?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:07:09 No.52471209 Report

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>>52471164
>because they give you more chances to reduce your combat score with fumbles.
But an equal chance to increase it with criticals.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:07:48 No.52471219 Report

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>>52471177
MoK on your leader with 2 CCW could give you al lot of attacks.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:08:11 No.52471226 Report

Quoted By: >>52471239 >>52472377

>>52471125

I think Slaanesh should give more attacks personally.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:08:24 No.52471230 Report

Quoted By: >>52471252 >>52471306

So the rules for tactical marines are in the core game I guess?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:09:00 No.52471239 Report

Quoted By: >>52471386

>>52471226
I think for this game mode, +1 movement would have been pretty nice.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:09:05 No.52471244 Report

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>>52471164
>No, only the special operators get it.
Wait, so my regular dudes dont get to show how dedicated they are to Slaanesh at all?

That's awful!

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:09:34 No.52471252 Report

Quoted By: >>52471293 >>52471306

>>52471230
Scouts only. Regual marines are operatives.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:11:07 No.52471276 Report

Quoted By: >>52471312 >>52471320

>>52471164
>only the special operators get it

Wait, I'm confused. So only like...a Raptor, can take a Mark of Chaos, but a Raptor also can't take stuff from the wargear lists that require you to have specific marks?

Did they proofread this at all?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:11:59 No.52471293 Report

Quoted By: >>52471341

>>52471252
How do Operatives work?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:12:34 No.52471302 Report

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>>52470608
>Preternatural Agility: Purestrain Genestealers may triple their movement rate when they run or charge
>18" charge range
Holy shit

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:12:41 No.52471306 Report

Quoted By: >>52471398

>>52471252
>>52471230
Seems like Space Marines are getting the shit end of the stick to me. Scouts aren't compariable to Necron Warriors, Chaos Space Marines, Dire Avenger etc.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:13:14 No.52471312 Report

Quoted By: >>52471398

>>52471276
>The following special rule applies to all members of a Chaos Space Marines kill team, other than Chaos Cultists.

Its quiet clear that ever CSM gets a mark.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:13:36 No.52471320 Report

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>>52471276
Prehaps your normal dudes earn their marks during the campaign?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:15:01 No.52471341 Report

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>>52471293
You earn oil barrels each game. You can either spend them on more regular troops, or take one operative for one game.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:15:06 No.52471343 Report

Quoted By: >>52471384 >>52471388 >>52471463 >>52471491 >>52471527

I need help deciding something. I want to get into the tabletop 40k but I can't decide which army to play. I know for sure I'm going to go with Chaos Space Marines, but I'm not sure which legion I want to play. I'm torn between
>Alpha Legion
>Iron Warriors
>World Eaters
>Emperor's Children
>Thousand Sons
What would you guys recommend, based on your experiences with the game?
I don't really care about winning, so much as building, painting and fielding a more fluffy army. Help me out, Anons

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:15:10 No.52471345 Report

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The Imperishables

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:16:26 No.52471358 Report

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>>52471341
Are Deathwatch kill teams in?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:16:57 No.52471368 Report

Quoted By: >>52471430

Do you guys base your models that don't need a base to stand up?

For instance an Onager dunecrawler. It's got moveable legs and transforming feet, so I'm probably just gotta let it do its thing without a base.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:18:25 No.52471384 Report

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>>52471343
I've always like Thousand Sons. Look great, fun to paint, can destroy half an army on just the physkic phase but cost an arm and a leg for a handful of units.

I second Emperor children though, but they are getting a rough hand at the minute. I have a feeling they will be the next big release however after the Death Guard.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:18:31 No.52471386 Report

Quoted By: >>52471412

>>52471239

Yeah, Slaanesh seems to enhance awareness and speed. Maybe, adding poison or having an AoE nerf effect.

Plus +1 initiative is pretty underwhelming to me.

Like Noise Marines should have a special grenade like the Plague Marines.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:18:47 No.52471388 Report

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>>52471343
Well, I personally play EC's, though in my experience it takes some doing to get around the fact that Noise Marines are their main fluffy unit and they only have an old resin upgrade kit for them.

I would say World Eaters would be the most fun to do. Khornate marines have a lot of variety in units that they can take while still being fluffy, as well as having quite a bit of variance that can be done with color schemes.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:18:54 No.52471391 Report

Quoted By: >>52471524 >>52471602

What is canonically the MOST angry and wrathful faction in 40k?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:19:19 No.52471398 Report

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>>52471312

That does seem to be the correct interpretation, but it raises the question of why they felt the need to specify that Terminators and Spawn get a Mark of Chaos...

>>52471306
There is a points system. From the look of things, scouts are relatively good value.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:19:56 No.52471412 Report

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>>52471386
I think they could have just added a Sonic Blaster under the list of weapon options, similarly to how the Rubric's inferno bolts are on the list.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:20:01 No.52471416 Report

Quoted By: >>52471429 >>52471461

>>52471358
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

Seeing how xenos infested Armageddon seems to be, they should, but they have a warzone exchange programm with the Grey Knights, so they are probaly killing deamons.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:21:11 No.52471429 Report

Quoted By: >>52471442 >>52471452 >>52471472

>>52471416
>but they have a warzone exchange programm with the Grey Knights

There's a ton of demons left in Armageddon after Angron wrecked the planet.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:21:15 No.52471430 Report

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>>52471368

I base my walkers, because bases can be important for rules stuff and I like making little scenic pieces for them.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:21:54 No.52471442 Report

Quoted By: >>52471472

>>52471429
And yet no daemon teams... not even as special Ops for chaos.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:22:27 No.52471452 Report

Quoted By: >>52471472

>>52471429
In the Underhive?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:23:19 No.52471461 Report

Quoted By: >>52471468

>>52471416
>>52470608
Wait a minute, where are the Loyalist and Orks rules?

Are they being collected somewhere else?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:23:33 No.52471463 Report

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>>52471343

Alpha Legion look really fun to play desu.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:24:09 No.52471468 Report

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>>52471461
They're probably in the core game, what with being Scouts v Orks and all

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:24:24 No.52471472 Report

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>>52471429
>>52471452
>>52471442

Its suppose to be set during the second battle of Armageddon. I don't know the fluff very well but could this be why?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:25:03 No.52471486 Report

Quoted By: >>52471945

>>52470833
guard is in the base rules
also you can choose between steel legion, cadians or catachans . there is no diffrence equipment wise but it changes the specilisations you can get

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:25:30 No.52471491 Report

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>>52471343
Alpha Legion's really fun, lots of infiltration shenanigans, and The Mindveil artifact might be one of the best in the game.

Cultists aren't really worth using; it's all about Chosen specialist units; all flamer, all melta, all plasma, etc. The idea is to put your opponent on the defensive from the start, and to split them up and take out their important units.

The Forge World scheme for them is one of the most visually appealing imo, but it does require an airbrush.

I'd also recommend Iron Warriors, their rules are fairly mediocre, Fleshmetal Exoskeleton is another good relic, and they're simple to paint but the hazard stripes really bring it all together.

A Decurion for infantry and a CAD for Forge World vehicles works well.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:25:52 No.52471498 Report

Quoted By: >>52471536

>>52471472
>Its suppose to be set during the second battle of Armageddon.
>Tau, dark eldar, necrons and nids in open warfare with each other
??????

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:26:18 No.52471501 Report

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>>52471358
deathwatch veterans are operatives for space marines

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:26:29 No.52471506 Report

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>>52470822
>>52470924
>grognardfag wasn't permabanned and now he's being a fag again
Why have the MODS abandoned us?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:27:32 No.52471524 Report

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>>52471391
Khorne daemonkin

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:27:34 No.52471527 Report

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>>52471343
DG player reporting.

i have seen Alpha Legion and Iron Warriors. The AL are very interesting and you can tarpit way better with infiltraiting respawining cultists.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:27:57 No.52471536 Report

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>>52471498
Dont ask me, just read it in the rules book in the games workshop store today.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:28:20 No.52471548 Report

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>>52471506
>Why have the MODS abandoned us again?
fixed 4 u.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:29:58 No.52471572 Report

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>>52471548

If only Tau where this interesting

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:32:05 No.52471602 Report

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>>52471391

Pretty much this.

>>52471524

Though I think Da Ork Ladz are pretty killa

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:34:23 No.52471634 Report

Quoted By: >>52471646

>>52471602
Orkz do it for fun, khorne daemons because they're August and know no better.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:35:32 No.52471646 Report

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>>52471634
>August
Autists

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:37:56 No.52471678 Report

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>>52470557
Anyone got the Cultist-chan one?
Did drawfag made any more qts? Maybe Lolicron?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:38:25 No.52471684 Report

Quoted By: >>52471849

>>52471491
>Cultists aren't really worth using
you dumb. cultist are honestly great you just have to use them right
taking overwatch instead of you actual killy shit, esp true when assultung DA or flamers
camping back field objecives
sneakly getting line breaker via out flank
stealing poorly defended enemy objectives
providing coversaves for your valuable units
fun

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:38:56 No.52471695 Report

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>>52471678

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:41:00 No.52471715 Report

Quoted By: >>52471913

>>52470557
Shadow wars rules
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:46:13 No.52471788 Report

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>4 generals simultaneously
what the fuck is happening.exe

So because I think this is the main timeline, I'll repostan my heresy here:

Rate my heresy, /40kg/

I'm thinking of making a rogue psyker ignorant of her powers to Dark Heresy (Once we cycle into playing it again). Where things get heretical is that she's a sister of Adepta Sororitas.

The idea is that her unyielding faith is suppressing her psyker powers, and only if in the game things go to absolute shit do they actually show.

Mostly making this character for maximum drama, second plan is to make a force-staff wielding Melee Psyker / Repentia. Optimum would be to actually become a full-fledged sister of battle before the revelation, meaning the powers would probably be pretty strong already at that point. This is of course, only a plan, one would never know what would actually happen when the game itself starts.

So, how bad? And yeah, of course I would ask permission from the GM, I've just been toying with the idea.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:47:39 No.52471811 Report

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>>52471678
1/3

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:48:58 No.52471825 Report

Quoted By: >>52471854

>>52471572
>>52471548
Makes me think it actually would be nice if they openly became allies in the next edition

>Tau Empire signs a galaxy-wide non-agression pact with the Empire of Mankind
>Farsight enclaves grow, and still duck it out against humans sometimes, justifying Empire vs Tau tabletop matches
>Tau are sometimes acting as allies, in joint empire/tau campaigns
>at first they can't stand each other
>but then, after some months of fighting toghether, you would see Fire warriors smoking lho sticks, guardsmen drinking Tau booze, and some of them playing card games and football together
>cultural exchange galore
>Commissars and Ethereals can't really stop it all from happening

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:49:05 No.52471827 Report

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>>52471678
2/3

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:50:21 No.52471849 Report

Quoted By: >>52472020 >>52472031

>>52471684
I've used them a ton; and I've explained on here before why they're point for point maybe the worst unit in the CSM codex.

They don't camp very well, they'll die and fall back to almost anything, they can't tarpit for shit, they have no options to make them worthwhile.

It doesn't matter if they come back on a 4+ or 3+, they're garbage.

When TL first came out I played a game in TTS with a friend where I had a maxed out LatD formation (we interpreted the rule as two rolls to get a new cultist unit when they're wiped).

He couldn't table me, but I did fuck all to his army with the cultists, it was 555 points of dead weight.

I get told Chosen are a waste, but ususually they make their points back and more.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:50:29 No.52471854 Report

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>>52471825
Oh yeah lets rape the fluff some more!.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:50:39 No.52471856 Report

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>>52471678
3/3

Thats all I got.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:51:27 No.52471865 Report

Quoted By: >>52471916

Is this the closest we've got to a hive city?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:53:38 No.52471888 Report

Quoted By: >>52471904

>>52471695
>>52471811
>>52471827
>>52471856
That was fast, thanks anon!

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:54:39 No.52471904 Report

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>>52471888

I have a huge folder of this stuff.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:54:44 No.52471905 Report

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STUPID

DUMB

ELDAR SCUM

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:55:08 No.52471913 Report

Quoted By: >>52471981

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>52471715
>>52470608
-Syren 235
Splinter pistol, Agoniser, mirrorhelm
-Wych 110
Hydra Gauntlets
-Wych 110
Razirflails
-Wych 115
Shardnet and impaler
-Wych 100
pistol, knife
-Wych 100
pistol, knife
-Wych 120
pistol, chainhook, blade venom
-Wych 110
Pistol, chainhook

Rolling for drugs...
Ok, so, what now?
How do you think this list would match up to others?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:55:13 No.52471916 Report

Quoted By: >>52471946

>>52471865
Kowloon?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:56:36 No.52471936 Report

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>>52471904
Oh yeah, keep it comming!

>>52471827
>bottom right
Is that an eldar? Don't you dare hold your eldars!!!

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:56:44 No.52471938 Report

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>>52471854
/tg/ asked for it.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:56:47 No.52471939 Report

Quoted By: >>52471962 >>52471997 >>52474252

I read that the Imperial Guard executes a lot of soldiers. But does executing really improve morale?

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:56:56 No.52471943 Report

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>>52471905

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:57:01 No.52471945 Report

Quoted By: >>52472191 >>52474240

>>52471486

But I play Mordians reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:57:04 No.52471946 Report

Quoted By: >>52471974

>>52471916
yeh

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:57:14 No.52471949 Report

Quoted By: >>52471984

>>52470557
Wait, did people notice new episode of TTS is out? Or more like new special, but you know what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-ydhg10UE&ab_channel=BruvaAlfabusa

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:57:47 No.52471956 Report

Quoted By: >>52472017 >>52472108

>>52471856
>>52471811
>>52471827
>>52471678
Thats just lazy and ugly.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:58:01 No.52471962 Report

Quoted By: >>52472396

>>52471939
Worked for Russia/ Soviet Union

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:58:49 No.52471974 Report

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>>52471946
my battlebrother

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:59:33 No.52471981 Report

Quoted By: >>52472024

>>52471913

Poisoned chain hooks are cheaper and more effective than both Razorflails and Hydras in addition, they can be given pistols as well. A wych with Poisoned chains and a pistol is 120pts

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 22:59:40 No.52471984 Report

Quoted By: >>52472007

>>52471949
Yup, there's even a thread about it >>52463574

>flick flick flick

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:00:43 No.52471997 Report

Quoted By: >>52476020 >>52476356

>>52471939
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_the_gauntlet

It did to some degree.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:01:12 No.52472007 Report

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>>52471984
Shame YuGiOh is such a trashy game

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:01:59 No.52472017 Report

Quoted By: >>52472284

>>52471956
No, that's cute.
(you) are lazy and ugly.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:02:16 No.52472020 Report

Quoted By:

>>52471849
My list, BTW

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:02:27 No.52472024 Report

Quoted By: >>52472097

>>52471981
If I wanted to be cheap, why not just keep them at 100 points with poisoned chain + knife?
Or does knife not give 2ccw bonus?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:02:49 No.52472027 Report

Quoted By: >>52472065 >>52472070 >>52472077 >>52472105

Got an interview to work at a GW store

wish me luck

or not

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:02:59 No.52472031 Report

Quoted By: >>52472073

>>52471849
What are you fighting anon?

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:04:50 No.52472054 Report

Quoted By:

is CHAOS confirmed to be the BEST faction EVER?

YOU'LL BE SHOCKED WHAT THE SURVEY SAYS -- 5 HOTTEST PLACES TO VISIT IN THE WARP
>>>>[CLICK HERE]<<<<

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:05:14 No.52472057 Report

Quoted By: >>52472299

So I played againat my friebds new Ynnari army yesterday and managed to stomp all over it with my Imperial Guard due to the fact that he thought soulburst had unlimited range (and the fact that his wraithknight isn't built yet), we spent 20 minutes argueing over it before I had to go find my gathering storm 2 to prove myself right.

He got pretty salty afterwards and told me he was gonna learn all the cheesiest buold he could to stomp me on Sunday, so my question is what are the powerful build for Ynnari I need to look out for? I run guard and BA and have a modified Baneblade where I can run any of it's variations. Anything I can do to hold out againat it or should I take up my 3rd friends offer and just use his Tau to make the Ynnari guy lose his shit?
Pic barely related, what I wanna do if I ever try to make a cortus-contemptor

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:06:02 No.52472065 Report

Quoted By: >>52472121

>>52472027
>working at GW

Good luck indeed.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:06:43 No.52472070 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472027
Good luck anon, what store?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:06:58 No.52472073 Report

Quoted By: >>52472124

>>52472031
Tau, and sometimes he plays Slaanesh Daemons.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:07:14 No.52472077 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472027

Goodluck man, you gotta be our insider man.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:08:24 No.52472097 Report

Quoted By: >>52472135

>>52472024

Depends on how much you want that pistol shot. I'd imagine the knife gives an extra attack. Also, shard nets are really useful for dealing with stupid melee weapons because it forces them to use a knife.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:08:46 No.52472105 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472027

>working for the big yellow-red schlong

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:09:00 No.52472108 Report

Quoted By:

>>52471956
Eh, I like It.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:10:05 No.52472121 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472065
tfw, I played a game of LoTR mini game and, lost my entire unit of riders of Rohan in one tiny little river. I lost but was funny.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:10:30 No.52472124 Report

Quoted By: >>52472138

>>52472073
Does your opponent use Diaz's daemonettes ?
This is a very important question.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:11:42 No.52472135 Report

Quoted By: >>52472414

>>52472097
yeah, but I only have one net, the list is based on what I have.

No idea why you wouldn't pay the extra 10 points for a wytch over a rookie, no idea why you would pay an extra 20 points for blood brides extra attack and leadership when you can swarm them with wytches equipped with chain hooks.

I tried to make a chaos list as well but I could barely afford three marines and 5 cultists, I assume a list like that would just get swarmed by wytches, their power armour means nothing with -3 rend.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:11:56 No.52472138 Report

Quoted By: >>52472165

>>52472124
Nah, we play in Tabletop Sim

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:14:20 No.52472165 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472138
Ah, I see. Can't judge.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:16:02 No.52472191 Report

Quoted By:

>>52471945
i play valhallans anon , but i'm getting some steel legion just to make a kill team for the campaign our store is going to run

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:23:54 No.52472283 Report

Quoted By:

WAAAGH!

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:23:55 No.52472284 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472017
Drawfag?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:24:58 No.52472299 Report

Quoted By: >>52473798

>>52472057
Archon with wraithguard, no scatter deepstrike D templates.

Don't take any big models that would dislike being deleted in one turn of shooting.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:27:00 No.52472327 Report

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:28:27 No.52472345 Report

Quoted By: >>52472350

>>52470608
Orks, Guard, and SM are in the Main Shadow Wars Rulebook.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:28:53 No.52472350 Report

Quoted By: >>52472383

>>52472345
Is that book leaked yet?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:30:18 No.52472377 Report

Quoted By:

>>52471226
>Slaanesh give more attacks
>the one thing the Khorne stuff does
No

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:30:52 No.52472383 Report

Quoted By: >>52472405

>>52472350
They have bits in Aprils White Dwarf. But next week is when we should start getting the actual game in stores.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:32:06 No.52472396 Report

Quoted By:

>>52471962
Enemy at the gates isn't historically accurate.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:32:41 No.52472405 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472383
My store has it in tomorrow and they're doing a public showing of it.

I'll take shitty phone pictures of some of the rules.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:33:21 No.52472414 Report

Quoted By: >>52472438 >>52472488 >>52472531

>>52472135
>tfw ordered a pile of chains, nets, and flails for my 40k wyches
>a week later shadow wars rules happen
>nets and chains are where its at
>mfw

But yea, wyches are clearly the better choice in every way. Fuck, I'd take Brides if they had higher WS, but even the fucking Siren only has WS4 because fucking reasons. The fact that a Dire Avenger exarch has not only has BS 5 but ALSO WE 5 offends me.

Brides might look better depending on how specialists work.

100pt wyches with poisoned Chainblades is going to be sweet IF they get to melee.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:35:14 No.52472438 Report

Quoted By: >>52472947

>>52472414
>The fact that a Dire Avenger exarch has not only has BS 5 but ALSO WE 5 offends me.
Don't forget the second wound...

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:37:14 No.52472464 Report

Quoted By:

Are you supposed to run Detachment D-99 as a standard CAD, or is there a special mix of units you need to use? I'm looking at the IA for it but I'm not seeing a mention either way.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:37:38 No.52472473 Report

Quoted By: >>52472784

Which 40k army lets me experience sexual pleasure

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:38:41 No.52472488 Report

Quoted By: >>52472549 >>52472947

>>52472414
Just scimming though 2 chainhooks and poison cost as much as a razor flail and work better than the flails with the chain hooks having better ap. Unless specialized Eq is single use or non-persistent in a campaign.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:42:07 No.52472531 Report

Quoted By: >>52472947

>>52472414
>100pt wyches with poisoned Chainblades is going to be sweet IF they get to melee.
Looks like running gives anyone shooting at them a -1 hit modifer and moving gives another -1 before any other modifers.

Using their superior movement stat you could run them forward and sit them 12" away from what they want to shoot. They can stand and shoot with a -1 modifier or move out of your charge range and shoot with a -2. They can try avoiding you but they're going to be racking up some pretty serious penalties to their shooting if they do.

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:42:26 No.52472535 Report

Quoted By: >>52472687

r8 please

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:43:09 No.52472549 Report

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>>52472488
they come with a knife, you dont need to buy a second hook so they're even cheaper!

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:48:09 No.52472623 Report

Quoted By:

R8 my Iron Warriors list

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:48:54 No.52472632 Report

Quoted By: >>52473346

How do Terminators usually fair in a Deathwatch army? I'd like to take a few and see how they do in a mixed killteam unit.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:52:49 No.52472687 Report

Quoted By: >>52474311

>>52472535
Where's your Command Squad going to go?

And who's escorting your Chapter Master?

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Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:53:40 No.52472696 Report

Quoted By: >>52472720 >>52472746 >>52472751 >>52472757

Are assassins supposed to be better than spehs muhreens in the fluff?

If you dropped one of each into an arena with a boltgun each, who'd win?

I know their statlines are miles apart in the crunch, but the fluff on them seems to vary wildly.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:54:59 No.52472720 Report

Quoted By: >>52472849

>>52472696
100 Eversors took down 4 chapters, iirc.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:56:15 No.52472746 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472696
Generally? The average assassin will beat the average space marine.

If it's someone of at least Captain status with a name? More of a tossup.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:56:18 No.52472747 Report

Quoted By: >>52472991

So SWA is average 1,000 points right?
Okay my Knights get to ride again. You slow ass fucks. Let's see here....
Justicar (250) 400
-Demon Hammer 100
- Frag Gernades 25
-Storm Bolter Reload 25

Grey Knight Gunner (200) 343
-Incinerator 75
-Falchions 30
-Incinerator reload 38

Grey Knight (175) 260
-Flacions 30
-Storm bolter reload 25
-PsyBolt Ammo 30

total 1003....Fuck...And there are no cheap upgrades to remove. Anyone have an idea?

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:56:29 No.52472751 Report

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>>52472696
They are way better then the average marine.

An eversor is the true gladiator. The callidus is speed and evasion/hiding. The vindicare is pure marksman and will put a round through something a mile away in a heartbeat. Culexus? Your brain is liquid now.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:56:44 No.52472757 Report

Quoted By: >>52473508

>>52472696
They're more skilled than space marines, but not as tough.

The Eversor is the one that's best at straight up killing; all those drugs make them move insanely fast.

Anonymous Fri 31 Mar 2017 23:58:06 No.52472784 Report

Quoted By: >>52472823 >>52473312

>>52472473
None of them will stop you. Imperium wants bodies, so go get married and bang out some kids.

Slaanesh isn't going to stop you from getting freeky.

Greater Goods aren't going to care so long as you don't try to cross breed with Tau.

Okay Maybe the Necro will stop you...
Or the Nids. Everyone else is fine with sex.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:00:28 No.52472823 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472784
>Nids
>Not liking sex

Genestealer cultists and the living baby-making tanks would like a word

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:02:09 No.52472845 Report

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>>52470608
Odd, I would have expected CSM to be able to take chainaxes. You can give them blight grenades as long as they have the mark of nurgle, though.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:02:13 No.52472849 Report

Quoted By: >>52477354

>>52472720
>Deploying 100 Eversors against anything

Overkill.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:02:22 No.52472850 Report

Quoted By: >>52472887 >>52472917 >>52473286

>>52470608
>Daemons get zero representation, not even a summon
Fucking bullshit. Are there any other factions that get literally nothing?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:02:48 No.52472861 Report

Quoted By: >>52472895 >>52472917 >>52473996

how do i paint the science vials ontop of a techpriest dominus if I don't have green and am also a total scrub?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:03:06 No.52472866 Report

Quoted By:

Can you guys recommend any readers with a printing function that can clearly read GW epubs? Redium can't print as far as I can tell and using a phone to read them gets tedious during a game

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:04:42 No.52472887 Report

Quoted By: >>52472917 >>52472923 >>52472930 >>52472989

>>52472850
Imperial Guard

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:05:10 No.52472895 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472861
Blue could make a good liquid. If you are a total scrub maybe just paint the whole jar blue as though its full? If you can manage some little bubbles it should look alright. Admech sounds like hell for a bad painter.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:06:21 No.52472917 Report

Quoted By: >>52472986

>>52472850
Imperial Agents. But that's an ally codex, so it makes sense.

>>52472861
Check Duncan's video and substitute colors as needed.

>>52472887
Main rulebook alongside Orks and SM. Choose from Cadians, Steel Legion, and Catachans, iirc.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:06:43 No.52472923 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472887
They are in the main rulebook with space marines and orks. Its bullshit Daemons don't get to play when fucking tyranids, necrons, harlequins etc do. Why cant i just forge the narrative?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:07:01 No.52472930 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472887
They're included in the main book with loyalist scouts and Orks.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:08:07 No.52472947 Report

Quoted By: >>52473005

>>52472438

What the actual shit GW?

>>52472531

If that's the case, then maybe they'll actually get there. However, the opponent can declare overwatch too, which I'm sure will just let them shoot anything within x range.

>>52472488

You don't have to buy 2 Chainblades because they come with Knives, so it's a flat 100pts for Wych + Poison + CB. Then, it's 20ppm for the pistols.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:10:25 No.52472986 Report

Quoted By: >>52473005 >>52473007 >>52473996

>>52472917
duncan didn't do a dominus, or at least he didnt on the youtube channel

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:10:41 No.52472989 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472887
>killing other imperial guard
lol, its like squating an already squated, but barely alive fly.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:10:43 No.52472991 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472747

Trade one set of falchions for a warding staff, which is 5pts cheaper

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:11:36 No.52473005 Report

Quoted By: >>52473219

>>52472947
Overwatch costs your whole turn, though.

>>52472986
It was a daily video from last year.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:11:42 No.52473007 Report

Quoted By: >>52473010

>>52472986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-BWaF1M5ps

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:11:52 No.52473009 Report

Quoted By: >>52473074 >>52473093

>>52470608
Damn no Custodes in Shadow War.

They could've fluffed it in as Custodes doing the Blood Games, but I guess there baseline is too high.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:12:06 No.52473010 Report

Quoted By:

>>52473007
ooh, ty

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:15:31 No.52473066 Report

Quoted By: >>52474449

I will continue my work.

This one was hard and the result was pretty bad.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:15:54 No.52473074 Report

Quoted By:

>>52473009
More like they would be too expensive.
a 14 point marine is 215 out of your 1000 points with the same equipment in shadow war.

Can you image how many points a custodes would have to cost?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:17:15 No.52473093 Report

Quoted By: >>52473202 >>52474148

>>52473009
They stuck a Solitaire in there, no reason a custard couldn't be added.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:21:55 No.52473164 Report

Quoted By: >>52473245 >>52473375

Can defilers be good? I feel like if there was a way for them to deep strike they would be a lot better.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:24:40 No.52473202 Report

Quoted By: >>52473345 >>52474148

>>52473093
He's also an expensive single use so who gives your opponent more vps if he's downed.

So yeah, there's room for big gold man.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:25:56 No.52473219 Report

Quoted By:

>>52473005

Also, CWE move AFTER shooting because of fucking battle focus, so Wyches will never be able to reach them.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:28:02 No.52473245 Report

Quoted By: >>52473303

>>52473164
If they were a bit less expensive, I think they'd be better. The problem is it's trying to do too many things at once and pays too many points for all of it. If you want an assault defiler, a lot of the cost is wrapped up in that Battle Cannon that won't be getting much use. If you want a shooty one, you have 2 powerfists by default that you can't ditch.

If it was possible to kit out the Defiler better for a single role by sacrificing from the other side, it'd be better. Like if you could ditch the battle cannon for improved front armor, or ditch the power claws for stabilizers to allow another gun to be shot alongside the battle cannon.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:31:25 No.52473286 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472850
Sisters of Battle?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:32:40 No.52473303 Report

Quoted By: >>52473367

>>52473245
I wouldn't mind it trying to do everything if it at least had a way to do everything. Like if it could fire the battle cannon, autocannon, extra weapons, etc, and then assault on top of that

But even the assault portion would be mostly a defensive option because you aren't going to have your battle crab scurry across the table

The skittarii battlecrab is much better designed. The melee weapons are an option able upgrade and it doesn't have points sunk into an awkward battle cannon.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:33:03 No.52473312 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472784
>Greater Goods aren't going to care so long as you don't try to cross breed with Tau.
Wait, what?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:35:20 No.52473345 Report

Quoted By: >>52473542

>>52473202

That's true.

Maybe they release expansions or w/e that include some of the other factions that aren't included.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:35:27 No.52473346 Report

Quoted By:

>>52472632
Solo units with special weapons is where its at
Killteams are kind of awkard but termie ones are the least awkward

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:35:34 No.52473349 Report

Quoted By:

Just started reading the Horus Heresy, finished the first three books and then learned there's fifty bajillion of them.

Don't most of these books cover the same time periods? The blurb for the fifth book, Fulgrim, seems to imply it takes place concurrently with the first book.

I guess what I'm asking is are there books that are integral to the storyline, and are there books that just flesh out certain chapters that aren't important to the overall story arc, or is it a case of you have to read everything.

I just wanted to read about Isstvan III and V, and then Terra and people kicking the shit out of each other

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:36:50 No.52473367 Report

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>>52473303
Yeah. Really, I think if the Battle Cannon on it wasn't Ordnance, it'd be a lot better. Granted, that's because I run a pretty gun-heavy version of it myself, so I may be somewhat biased in wanting to avoid extra snapshots.

I do think an assault version should be possible though. Perhaps they could give it the weird 3 inches of extra move/run/charge range some models have, and give it some other survivability options.

It basically boils down to why you'd take a Defiler when you could run a Maulerfiend to kill things in melee or just spend the points on Havocs or other Tanks to kill from a range. Specializing is generally more efficient.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:37:17 No.52473375 Report

Quoted By:

>>52473164
Ordance weapons dont cause everything else to snapfire would be what makes them great again

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:37:57 No.52473383 Report

Quoted By: >>52473424

DUDE ORCS WITH GUNS LMAO

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:39:28 No.52473399 Report

Quoted By: >>52473424

DUDE WHAT IF NERDS WERE IN SPACE HAHAHAHH OH OH BUT WHAT IF THEY LOVED BEEING NERDS SO MUCH THEY FUSED WITH THEIR COMPUTERS HAHAH AND BECAME CRAZY COMPUTER PEOPLE WHO WORSHIPPED CALCULATORS BROOOO HOLY SHIT LOLLLL

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:41:20 No.52473423 Report

Quoted By: >>52473656 >>52473670

Quick question how much worth is Cawl money wise.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:41:37 No.52473424 Report

Quoted By:

>>52473399
>>52473383
thanks for the bump

please don't do any summaries anymore, because they are unfunny

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:46:55 No.52473478 Report

Quoted By: >>52473583 >>52473826

>check tau SWA
>cheap as shit
>15pt marker lights that give army wide ignore cover on target
>50pt drone that reduces charge distance
>mfw

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:49:45 No.52473508 Report

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>>52472757
The combat stims their bodies are filled with are ridiculously potent shit that helps to make them super killy but it comes at the expense of longevity. That stuff is just too potent for even heavily augmented human bodies to handle for extended periods of time. Luckily for the Eversors, when they get defrosted they don't waste time doing anything other than RIP AND TEAR, so the fact that the stims are killing them really is never an issue.

The "average" assassin will murder the shit out of an "average" SM, unless the marine can find a way of prolonging the fight to the point that his vastly superior durability/healing etc. decide the outcome. Or if the SM is a named character/badass Captain then they might just straight up be able to murder the assassin, though I can't imagine every captain being able to pull something like that off.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:53:44 No.52473542 Report

Quoted By: >>52473613

>>52473345
give it time. With the way these rules are we'll quickly see an HoR style expansion project going. I'm hoping for Arbite rules

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 00:59:00 No.52473583 Report

Quoted By: >>52474062

>>52473478
The only really weird thing I saw with the Tau entry was that they had an entry for newbie pathfinders, but the only difference was not being able to take pistols for saving 10 points.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:02:08 No.52473613 Report

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>>52473542
That's fair.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:06:50 No.52473656 Report

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>>52473423
One third of the price of the triumvirate :^)

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:07:46 No.52473670 Report

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>>52473423
Go look up on eBay what the scalpers are charging. Probably gonna be around 40 bucks

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:20:45 No.52473795 Report

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>>52470904
They are in the main rules

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:20:48 No.52473798 Report

Quoted By: >>52473862

>>52472299
Emperor's balls that doesn't sound fun... Guess I'll have to bubblewrap my tanks.

Are the triumvirate scary when used correctly? They all went down quickly to concentrated Leman Russ fire in my game but again thats because he didn't have them close enough to soulburst off each other. The formations don't look crazy strong from what I've seen but since normally Guard vs Eldar is supposed to be a slaughter I'm not sure if I'm just woefully underestimating them...

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:23:57 No.52473826 Report

Quoted By: >>52474146

>>52473478
I can see the logic in some of those choices the more I look at it. A Pathfinder is effectively a shitty guardsman, down to the armor, so it makes a degree of sense to have them be 60 points by default. That's what you'd expect for a dude in flak armor with no meaningful weapons.

However, I think the problem starts to come in with the upgrades. A Boltgun is 35 points for a chaos marine. While it will be more accurate thanks to the bonus at short range, a Pulse Carbine gets an extra point of strength and armor reduction for no real reason while only being 30 points.

A Markerlight, similarly, has a lot of potential, but compared to the standard game it is a lot less flexible. Sure, it'll be easy to benefit since everyone is going to be hiding in cover all the time, but you won't get the ridiculousness of BS 5 Ignores cover shooting. Even if they ignore the penalty for cover, they're still only shooting you at BS 3.

If you add up the price, it does work out to being 115 points, which factors out to being just over shy of the 11 points Pathfinders usually cost for those guns and a Photon Grenade.

Personally though, I'd say that still isn't too fair, since A Chaos marine would be paying out the nose for his grenades and basic guns as well.

I'd say the Pulse Carbine could stand to be 40 points, and the Markerlight 30. That brings it to a 140 total per model, which while still cheaper than a Chaos marine, at least gives more fair price for what's essentially a guardsman with fancy guns.

That said, I doubt you'll see multiple markerlights in an army anyway. Odds are people would prefer to take one or two and try and focus down single targets.

The drone also isn't that big of a deal. If you're within 6" of the drone, you're probably within 6" of the squad, so a -1 to your charge distance won't matter that much, especially considering some units can pull off charges from much further than that.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:26:40 No.52473862 Report

Quoted By: >>52474042

>>52473798
I think it pretty much is a mater of him not being grouped closely enough, but all that really does is give him extra shooting.

I think the key there is to pick your targets well. Either finish off units that won't be able to benefit (kill a squad near a unit with short-range shooting), or try and spread out your fire a lot. If you fire at a squad until there's one or two models left, and do that for his entire army, he'll be left with nothing too threatening. Then in the last turns he'll get a few piddly spurts of soulburst as his one-model squads avenge their one-model bretheren.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:28:10 No.52473880 Report

Quoted By: >>52473891 >>52473921 >>52473931

Does Shadowmunda Wars: Necrogeddon have rules for space marines, or is it just scoots and CSM?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:28:59 No.52473891 Report

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>>52473880
It almost certainly will. There's no way they'll leave out standard marines.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:32:05 No.52473921 Report

Quoted By: >>52474250

>>52473880
It's Scouts for Space Marines, CSM and Cultists for Chaos.

I like this, since it makes sense, fluff-wise. Scouts are used for scouting and small scale operations, whereas Tacs are shock troopers. CSM don't have Scouts, and work in hugely different sizes. From 1 dude and a bunch of cultists, to several thousand CSM on a crusade.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:32:54 No.52473927 Report

Quoted By: >>52473932 >>52473936

>>52470681
>>52470804
How on earth do you find these on the site?

like when gw does pdfs they fucking love to hide them

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:33:33 No.52473931 Report

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>>52473880
Normal sm's are so's for a scout army, including the termie I believe.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:33:48 No.52473932 Report

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>>52473927
They're on the NZ site for the Shadow Wars box and bundles.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:33:58 No.52473934 Report

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GUILLIMAN IS AN AGENT OF CHAOS
GUILLIMAN MUST BE STOPPED

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:34:18 No.52473936 Report

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>>52473927
>like when gw does pdfs they fucking love to hide them

Its on the shadow war product page, just because YOU cant find it doesnt mean its hidden.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:36:16 No.52473950 Report

Quoted By: >>52473963 >>52474002 >>52474045 >>52474140

>>52470557

Would Rogue Traders pilot Knights if they had one? Say they salvaged one?

In my fluff my marines are renegade and hang out with a RT fleet. I wanted the RT himself to pop onto the field at some point as maybe a knight (or using inquisitor rules, or straight up use the inquisimunda rules)

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:38:34 No.52473963 Report

Quoted By: >>52474139

>>52473950
Not unless they were already a knight pilot before becoming a trader, or got extensive training and were made a member of a knight house.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:39:22 No.52473976 Report

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>>52470608
>Mark of Chaos Undivided

IT RETURNS

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:41:03 No.52473996 Report

Quoted By: >>52474034

>>52472986
No but he painted cawl and he is pretty much the same thing, vials and all.

>>52472861
Let me know if you need the official admech painting .pdf

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:41:23 No.52474002 Report

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>>52473950
Only if the RT himself was also Nobility from a Knight world.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:43:17 No.52474034 Report

Quoted By: >>52474154

>>52473996
cawl doesn't have vials, as far as I'm aware. An anon linked the vial video in this thread anyways. And yeah if you'd like to share that pdf I'd appreciate it.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:43:42 No.52474042 Report

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>>52473862
That makes a lot of sense, sweet thanks guys, I think I can build a list out of that now.
Feel like a good way to counter the D-scythe webway bullshit is to bring out my valkyries and keep the high cost in them till they arrive. I don't think he has fliers or dark reapers

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:44:01 No.52474045 Report

Quoted By: >>52474067

>>52473950
>Implying there's something a rogue trader wouldn't do.
>Especially when they're told not to.

I'm pretty sure any knight they own was taken from a family over some petty faux pas specifically to drive the previous owners insane. Then they'll get bored with it and pay some freebooter Mek to upgrade it before returning it to it's previous owners via orbital drop on their mansion.

I had some players who made all their decisions based on what seemed most amusing at the time.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:44:56 No.52474062 Report

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>>52473583

That also can't get any skills until they upgrade to Trooper. That's how all faction ranks work: Newbies can't get any skills until they've leveled to Trooper level.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:45:21 No.52474067 Report

Quoted By: >>52474160

>>52474045
Knights have strong enough machine spirits to kill the pilot if they don't bond correctly, iirc. You have to be chosen, pretty much.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:47:25 No.52474092 Report

Quoted By:

For people wondering as to the Shadow Wars core rules, they are a 1:1 copy of Necromunda. I have found one difference however:
>ammo rolls are on 2d6
That's it. Except for a massive number of equipment tweaks you could sit down with the pdfs and a Necromunda book from the 90s and play it out.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:49:15 No.52474119 Report

Quoted By: >>52474146 >>52474164 >>52474181

>>52470608
>No Inquisition rules
Oh come on!

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:49:32 No.52474122 Report

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>>52470608
>Holo-suit give 4++.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:51:09 No.52474139 Report

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>>52473963

Probs gonna make him a knight then as well lol.

In my fluff he killed his brother (idk why sibling rivalry) so I guess his brother owned said knight while the other inherited the RT dynasty

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:51:13 No.52474140 Report

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>>52473950
in a RT game we found a knight world. I tried (unsuccessfully) to set up the captain with a local lord, so that they'd have kids that could inherit the ship AND pilot a knight.

I've also heard of a RT crew finding a lost titan and swapping it to the AdMech for a fresh new Knight.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:51:53 No.52474146 Report

Quoted By: >>52474370

>>52473826

It's actually -2 to charge distance because it's a -1 to their move stat, so Marines are only charge 6", which is considerable, especially if there are a few friends around to shoot you then kill you on the overwatch with their S5 -2 shots. I can see tau sticking to 3 man squads with 3" coherency so if you charge one, you eat two shots.

>>52474119

I was really looking forward to playing my sisters as a small band of shrine guardians. Instead, I'll be playing wyches, which I'm totally ok with. They're all primed and ready for paint.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:52:05 No.52474148 Report

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>>52473093
>>52473202
>The Path of Damnation:
If you expend a promethium cache to hire a Solitaire, he is the only model you can use for the duration of that mission! The Solitaire counts as your kill team’s leader for all rules purposes when playing the mission.

1 vs 10 does not look very promising.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:52:37 No.52474154 Report

Quoted By: >>52474291

>>52474034
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vs8ij2upcoi48ba/Warhammer%2B40%252C000%2B-%2BCrusaders%2Bof%2Bthe%2BMachine%2BGod%2B-%2BCult%2BMechanicus%2BPainting%2BGuide.pdf?dl=0

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:53:00 No.52474160 Report

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>>52474067
That gives me a cool idea for a Knight backstory, or at least one I think is cool.

So this Knight's pilot is killed, but the Knight is still fully operational, and the guy tries to pilot it, but the Knight's Machine Spirit isn't compatible with him. But his willpower to win the battle/save the Knight Titan inspires the Machine Spirit to properly synchronize with him and he manages to become the new Knight pilot and becomes a Freeblade. He can't leave the Knight anymore or the residual mental damage from forcibly connecting to the Knight will kill him and the Knight's house will surely disconnect him if he returned the machine to them. The Knight's Machine Spirit is cool with letting him be the pilot for now.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:53:18 No.52474164 Report

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>>52474119
I mean, =][= and Sisters have always been designed to be used as an allied force, so it makes some sense for them to not be supported as a full army in the main game. But here is where I thought they'd be okay.

I'm fine with this though.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:55:23 No.52474181 Report

Quoted By: >>52474270

>>52474119
the inquisition don't got model kits, man

I'm more disappointed grey knights got a full team, while deathwatch is stuck with sidekick duty.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 01:59:26 No.52474240 Report

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>>52471945
>But I play Mordians

Just have your guys stand in a line and look pissed the fuck off about everything, problem solved.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:00:17 No.52474250 Report

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>>52473921
Power Armour and Terminator Armour will be Special Operatives.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:00:28 No.52474252 Report

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>>52471939
Depends on why you execute them and the man who does the execution.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:01:44 No.52474270 Report

Quoted By: >>52474314

>>52474181
>gw shitting on deathwatch
Why am i not fucking surprised

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:03:08 No.52474291 Report

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>>52474154
thanks anon

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:04:24 No.52474311 Report

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>>52472687
It's all a bike squad

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:04:29 No.52474314 Report

Quoted By: >>52474349

>>52474270
Well, infiltrating an alien-controlled hive city is definitely not a job for the deathwatch.

we need to call the daemon hunting grey knights

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:05:18 No.52474323 Report

Quoted By: >>52474335

What is the best loadout for scouts in SW:A that won't be useless in a 40k army?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:06:21 No.52474335 Report

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>>52474323
Back camping objective holders while your wolf cav murders everything. So sniper rifles and camo cloaks

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:07:29 No.52474349 Report

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>>52474314
Fucks sake

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:09:23 No.52474370 Report

Quoted By: >>52474432 >>52474474

>>52474146
Yeah, Tau have some nice anti-assault options, though I think overall they're more balanced than the normal game. They aren't durable in the slightest, so now they're actually relying on ranged firepower, except their main guns are only 18 inches, so they have to get pretty close and stay mobile.

I do think their guns should have stayed at a -1 though. Making them a -2 is silly when they're already at +1 strength.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:10:47 No.52474390 Report

Quoted By: >>52474411 >>52474416 >>52474422

Which faction rapes more: Dark Eldar or Chaos aligned Slaanesh?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:12:13 No.52474411 Report

Quoted By: >>52474556

>>52474390
About the same, since DE need to keep up with Slaanesh to stop their souls from being eaten.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:12:42 No.52474416 Report

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>>52474390

They're about equal. DE also do a lot of torture and murder alongside the rape, whereas Slaanesh doesn't need to be 100% rape and does plenty of other hedonistic acts or consensual sex with seduced victims.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:13:20 No.52474422 Report

Quoted By: >>52474447 >>52474470 >>52474501 >>52475157

>>52474390
Imperial Guard

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:14:01 No.52474432 Report

Quoted By: >>52474716

>>52474370
They can give their guns range by taking the plasma boost drone...but they can only have up to three drones and they have to pick between 3" further shot drone, dakka drone, or slow 1" drone.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:14:16 No.52474436 Report

Quoted By: >>52474457 >>52474461 >>52474538 >>52474854

>>52471678
Cool! I made only Lolicron, Cultist-chan and the SoB. Would you like anything in particular? As long as It is easy.

If you are still there, that is.
Here, have schoolgirls from modern weaboo Holy Terra, in these trying times.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:14:45 No.52474447 Report

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>>52474422
It's not rape if it's an Eldar.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:14:48 No.52474449 Report

Quoted By: >>52474542

>>52473066
Ay, can you post that blank template for us other homebrewers to use?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:15:31 No.52474457 Report

Quoted By: >>52474533 >>52475016 >>52475251

>>52474436
macha or greyfax

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:15:47 No.52474461 Report

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>>52474436
>That's not how you hold a pizza you dumb heretic!

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:16:48 No.52474470 Report

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>>52474422
>implying those guardsmen aren't helping the lady secure her modesty

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:16:58 No.52474474 Report

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>>52474370
They can take a drone to give them +6" to their pulse weapons, which bumps them to 24" long range. Also, they can take 3 Scout Drones, 6 Pulse Carbines, 2 Markerlights, and 2 Photon grenades, which still sounds like pure aids. I don't feel like possibly eating overwatch from 2 drones with S5 -2 2d6 sustained guns.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:17:10 No.52474478 Report

Quoted By: >>52474509 >>52474529

Are jump pack assmarines any good these days?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:19:48 No.52474501 Report

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>>52474422
Top kek.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:20:28 No.52474509 Report

Quoted By: >>52474528

>>52474478
No, in fact you COULD say they're ass.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:22:10 No.52474528 Report

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>>52474509
I see, what could I fill this list out with other than assmarines then?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:22:11 No.52474529 Report

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>>52474478
Only when used in a skyhammer formation, otherwise useless.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:22:21 No.52474533 Report

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>>52474457
Good choices, anon.
Will start working on it soon.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:23:23 No.52474538 Report

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>>52474436
>Could she be retard... I mean, heretic?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:23:52 No.52474542 Report

Quoted By: >>52475025

>>52474449
There isn't one, I just edited existing BL PDFs.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:24:41 No.52474556 Report

Quoted By: >>52474564 >>52474566 >>52474577 >>52474579 >>52474585 >>52474603

>>52474411
I have been thinking: why don't the DE set up people's farms? This would be easier than having to keep attacking military forces to get their necessary souls.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:25:54 No.52474564 Report

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>>52474556
They probably do, but the fun of brutal murder is just as important as pounding every orifice.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:25:59 No.52474566 Report

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>>52474556

Because that's boring. There's no suffering for being who never knew freedom, so it's far more satisfying to steal them away from everything they loved.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:26:48 No.52474577 Report

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>>52474556
>why didn't the people of Rome just setup kill factories instead of watching gladiator matches

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:27:15 No.52474579 Report

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>>52474556
>why don't the DE set up people's farms

Because thats boring and doesnt fill their need to hunt and cause pain, they NEED to live on the edge!.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:27:37 No.52474585 Report

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>>52474556
They do, I don't remember specifically where, but they do have them. They're called pain farms. Imagine how we do chickens that are going to slaughter, but they never die and just get taken out of their cage to suffer. DE probably charge a fee of some sort to let whoever needs their daily dose to walk through it while they torture.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:29:07 No.52474603 Report

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>>52474556
Because they harvest pain agony and despair, any people coming from a people farm in Cormorragh would come out accustomed to a lifetime of depravation and abuse...just like most deldar - who are spat out of the haemonculus' deldar farm.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:31:32 No.52474628 Report

Quoted By: >>52474640 >>52474654 >>52474666 >>52477103

rate my chapter

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:32:40 No.52474640 Report

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>>52474628
nice

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:33:39 No.52474654 Report

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>>52474628
deus vult

the shoulder looks kinda out of place though

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:34:50 No.52474666 Report

Quoted By: >>52474679

>>52474628
Boring/10
That's not a bad thing if this is your first time painting since you'll get the best results with a simple scheme, but if you've already had experience with mini painting you can do better.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:36:00 No.52474679 Report

Quoted By: >>52474701 >>52474749

>>52474666
It's not my first time painting. Why do you think it's boring? Just because it's monochromatic?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:38:27 No.52474701 Report

Quoted By: >>52474717

>>52474679
There's not much contrast between anything.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:39:04 No.52474707 Report

Quoted By: >>52474753 >>52474823 >>52474880

>Every single time the Scions are mentioned in Gathering Storm, it's either them dying or fleeing
>Barely any good fluff
>Really mediocre army

thanks gw

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:39:49 No.52474716 Report

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>>52474432
Yeah, but even the range drone just puts their guns on par with marine range. Still good, but it'll get shot first in any firefight and leave them in a weird spot.

I'm not saying they're weak or anything, just that this might require a Tau player to actually be a bit careful for once.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:39:53 No.52474717 Report

Quoted By: >>52474825

>>52474701
How would you suggest adding contrast, if I might ask?
Also, I will be using a metallic base, like grey knights.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:43:23 No.52474749 Report

Quoted By: >>52474863

>>52474679
Yes, I'm not fond of the monochromatic, but that's a preference thing on my part. You have more room to work on the knee pads and can add more definition between the armor and the tabard. There is little contrast between the details.

But the scheme maker can't show what you can do with layering, highlighting, and shading as well as brightening and darkening surfaces. If you can do these things you can make an interesting monochrome scheme.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:43:33 No.52474753 Report

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>>52474707
>ywn "it ain't me" your way through hostile alien jungle with space SEALs

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:49:09 No.52474823 Report

Quoted By: >>52475182

>>52474707
all that matters is they look the best, and completely embarrass any T3 infantry they come across

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:49:16 No.52474825 Report

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>>52474717
Not the other anon, but if you were to shade and highlight the model you will get more contrast with those colors. The white and silver armor look pretty similar in the image, but when you paint it up, there will be a bit more contrast due to how the metallic paints look in person versus the templates and computer color options. I would recommend painting a test model and then working from there.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:49:45 No.52474835 Report

Quoted By: >>52474906 >>52474926 >>52474984

俺の求めるwarhammer40000と違う

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:51:04 No.52474854 Report

Quoted By: >>52475065

>>52474436
That is hilarious

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:51:44 No.52474863 Report

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>>52474749
You're definitely right. I only added what was necessary to the basic scheme in the editor, I usually do a lot more details in general but I just wanted opinions on the colors. I'm going for a kind of ancient knight sort of look anyway, so a lot of color on the armor plates is out. I hope it will look interesting. I plan on painting a marine in it soon, and I'll post it here when I do.
Though, I still haven't come up with a name. They're supposed to be Teutonic in theme, they are to the Teutonic Knights as the Black Templars are to the Knights Hospitaller

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:53:10 No.52474880 Report

Quoted By: >>52474936 >>52474977 >>52475870

>>52474707
IS there an effective way to incorporate Scions into an army?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:53:32 No.52474887 Report

Quoted By: >>52475208

>double check the Wych selections
>only Bloodbrides can take gladiatorial weapons

HOLY FUCK

GW dropped the ball here. Not only are BB paying 20 points for an extra attack (which can be bought for 5pts via knife), they're also expected to buy gladiator weapons, which are both worse AND more expensive than Chainblades w/poison.

Good job, GW!

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:53:36 No.52474889 Report

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>>52470629

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:55:09 No.52474906 Report

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>>52474835
>moonrunes

wat

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:56:21 No.52474926 Report

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>>52474835
>tfw no Plastic Farsight

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:56:24 No.52474927 Report

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>t-those units listed are only examples of models you can take!

Shadow War confirmed for DOA

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 02:57:16 No.52474936 Report

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>>52474880
As an elites choice.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:01:12 No.52474977 Report

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>>52474880
They're decent as troops in a Castellan. Respawning, deep-striking, meltagun teams.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:01:39 No.52474984 Report

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>>52474835
>what's the deal with S6 plasma guns?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:04:03 No.52475016 Report

Quoted By: >>52475214

>>52474457
Progress

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:04:29 No.52475025 Report

Quoted By: >>52475054

>>52474542
...Can you make one?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:06:04 No.52475051 Report

Quoted By: >>52475058 >>52475167

I'm in dilemma here. Errant or Crusader ?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:06:08 No.52475054 Report

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>>52475025
Not really! I'm not very competent.

And by that I mean yes I absoloutely could, but due to my total lack of experience at desktop publishing it would take me an inordinate amount of time and you could just do it yourself.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:06:34 No.52475058 Report

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>>52475051
crusader for the most dakka, of course

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:07:04 No.52475065 Report

Quoted By: >>52475152

>>52474854
The fact that anon can't draw for shit?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:14:19 No.52475152 Report

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>>52475065
You should probably consider killing yourself

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:14:53 No.52475157 Report

Quoted By: >>52475194

>>52474422
someone spent days making this

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:15:41 No.52475167 Report

Quoted By: >>52475232

>>52475051
Atrapos ;^)

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:16:23 No.52475182 Report

Quoted By: >>52475243 >>52475271

>>52474823
>completely embarrass any T3 infantry they come across
You trying to start something here, bub? I got some Rangers to wipe you off the board with S4 AP4 from 30" if you'd rather deal with them.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:17:06 No.52475194 Report

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>>52475157
>counts as Chimera

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:17:12 No.52475197 Report

Quoted By: >>52475538

is it bad

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:18:23 No.52475208 Report

Quoted By: >>52475364

>>52474887
Make sense, considered only the Special (gladiatorial) weapon have +1 str (which make them rend -3), all the normal CC weapon have 3 str, which mean you need 5+ to wound a T4 model, pretty tough, even with re-roll

I thought Venom blade give +4 poisoned at first, nope just re-roll.

Of course we also have the RNG combat drug and the skill table (which i assume will had some skill that make them wound better)

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:19:13 No.52475214 Report

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>>52475016
I like where this is going.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:20:23 No.52475232 Report

Quoted By: >>52475248

>>52475167

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:21:25 No.52475243 Report

Quoted By: >>52475284

>>52475182
>Doesn't even post Rangers

Not him, I play Skitarii

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:22:03 No.52475248 Report

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>>52475232
Sumting wong dante?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:22:32 No.52475250 Report

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what is a lost zygote?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:22:35 No.52475251 Report

Quoted By: >>52475272

>>52474457
I really don't know what to do with Macha... Or what she should wear. Any ideas?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:23:52 No.52475271 Report

Quoted By: >>52475308 >>52475498

>>52475182
>from 30"
>implying
DEEP STRIKE ALL DAY ERRY DAY

HOPE YOU LIKE COVER SAVES BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU'LL BE GETTING PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW
ALSO HOPE YOU HAVE NO INTERCEPTOR BECAUSE FFFFUCK INTERCEPTOR

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:23:54 No.52475272 Report

Quoted By: >>52475317 >>52475619

>>52475251
something like this

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:24:52 No.52475284 Report

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>>52475243
I did say "if you'd rather deal with them" in regards to the Rangers. I just think both Skitarii variants would mop up Scions.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:26:26 No.52475308 Report

Quoted By: >>52475333 >>52475353

>>52475271
[Icarus Array Intensifies]

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:27:11 No.52475317 Report

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>>52475272
Cool

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:28:05 No.52475333 Report

Quoted By: >>52477870

>>52475308
How many Dunecrawlers should I have equipped with Icarus Arrays if I have 3 total?

Assuming moderate air presence (the people I normally play against don't have air units).

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:29:15 No.52475353 Report

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>>52475308
clearly the only answer is to

DEEP STRIKE MORE UNITS

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:30:03 No.52475364 Report

Quoted By: >>52475458

>>52475208

The gauntlets have an advantage against people who can't parry because S4 shred, though they're still 30pts, but the Razorflails are 10pts more expensive than Venom+Hooks and don't get shred on their knife. The fact that they can only be taken on Brides makes them even worse. The Shardnet is the only gladiator weapon worth taking.

Here's the list I've settled on:

Siren
Mirrorhelm, Chainhook, Blade Venom

Bloodbride
Shardnet and Impailer, Mirrorhelm

Bloodbride
Shardnet and Impailer, Mirrorhelm

Wych with CH+BV
Wych with CH+BV
Wych with CH+BV
Wych with CH+BV
Wych with CH+BV

The Brides aim to neuter melee threats since they can parry and force them to use knives with an I6 initiative test, while the rest of the crew go and murder shit.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:35:18 No.52475420 Report

Quoted By: >>52475483 >>52475486

>Read the Shadow War info
>No sonic weapons for chaos
>No guardsmen or scions
>No daemons
>No Kabalite Warrios
>Not even space marine tacticals

Why? I'm excited for the game but seriously?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:39:17 No.52475458 Report

Quoted By: >>52475626

>>52475364
Razorflail are pretty shit.

Also are you really go with full mele team? No pistol? No grenade? that's gonna be tough. Take some of the new recruit along because i heard they will grow to be better in the long campaign.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:41:41 No.52475483 Report

Quoted By: >>52475536 >>52475670

>>52475420
>No guardsmen
>Not even space marine
base rules have those

>No sonic weapons
are you actually surprised they didn't include cult gear?

Lack of unit variety for some factions is questionable but I can sort of understand it. Hopefully they have their ears to the ground and make more warbands down the line. (kabalite warband, deathwatch warband, etc)

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:41:50 No.52475485 Report

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What should I add to this Alpha Legion list to make it work? Should I add The Lost and The Damned formation and a fire raptor gunship?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:41:55 No.52475486 Report

Quoted By: >>52475670

>>52475420
Guardsmen are in the Core rulebook.

Lrn2read.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:42:57 No.52475498 Report

Quoted By: >>52475558 >>52476684

>>52475271
Doing some quick mathhammer, if you Deep Strike all your lads within Rapid Fire Range, then you have 19 S3 AP3 shots at BS4. Against Skitarii Rangers, assuming they're not in cover, you'd get an average of 12.67 hits and 6.33 wounds. While this ignores their armor, they do get a 6+ FnP, bringing this down to 5.25 wounds.

Now, in retaliation fire, the remaining Skitarii are most certainly in Rapid Fire range. Now, they can fire at you with BS4, or use a Doctrina Imperative to crank themselves to BS5, 6 or even 7. Now, assuming you killed 5 or 6 in your initial shooting, that leaves us with 8 to 10 S4 AP4 shots coming at you. From the variables (number of shots and the BS used to shoot them), you get somewhere between 5.33 and just slightly under 10 hits. Now, at S4 AP4 , this leaves us with around 3.56 and 6.67 wounds, no armor saves allowed.

Even Deep Striking right next to them and unloading on 'em, the *survivors* can still kill more models than you can with no casualties. And they're 10 points cheaper for a squad of 10 then Scions are to boot.

>HOPE YOU LIKE COVER SAVES BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU'LL BE GETTING
I do like cover saves since I have Move Through Cover allowing me to get them easily. I hope you like having yours reduced by 1 however due to my 10 point Omnispex :^D

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:46:00 No.52475536 Report

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>>52475483
>are you actually surprised they didn't include cult gear?

But they did though. They included Blight Grenades and Inferno bolts from Plague and Rubric marines. Would it have been so hard to stat up Chain Axes and Sonic Blasters? All it needs to be is a Sustained Fire bolter that ignores the BS penalty for cover

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:46:11 No.52475538 Report

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>>52475197
henlo

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:47:35 No.52475558 Report

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>>52475498
>the *survivors* can still kill more models
*if* they burn a one-shot doctrine.

Though it's questionable they'd have it available depending on when this unit arrives from reserves.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:52:12 No.52475611 Report

Quoted By: >>52475666

>>52475558
Chances are if you're entering from Deep Strike, you're going to be doing it from turn two or beyond. Most times Skit players will burn the +3BS/-2WS doctrine first turn, then the +2BS/-1WS, then the +1BS, then the +1WS, and so on. So while their BS gets worse turn by turn, they're also blasting out bigger and bigger chunks of your army while your unit is still chilling in reserves.
By the time their BS is shit enough for you to take 'em without too much trouble, you might not really have an army left to back up.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:52:41 No.52475619 Report

Quoted By: >>52475818

>>52475272
Like this?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:53:17 No.52475626 Report

Quoted By: >>52476635

>>52475458

Why would I waste 20 points on pistols when I'm going to be running all the time? I'm at a disadvantage with shooting because T3 with 6+, so that means I need to run to maximize my opponent's hit modifier. Otherwise my dudes are dead. Every 5 pistols is a wych I could have, and grenades are even more expensive. Pistols also have a 12" range, and with a 6" move and I6, that's charge range.

If I wanted to run ALL THE BODIES with cheap dudes, I could run a Siren with 9 new recruits with CH+BV, which is ok, but then they're only WS3 with no way to trap scary melee units.

Like, I could drop a few wyches for recruits with pistols and venom, but I don't know if it's worth it.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:56:49 No.52475666 Report

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>>52475611
Right, but it's still a part of the comparison that's not quite accurate if viewed in a vacuum. Especially if, for example, the skit player went first and had the chance to blow his +3BS and +2BS doctrines before the hotshots even arrive.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 03:57:11 No.52475670 Report

Quoted By: >>52475816 >>52475828

>>52475486
>>52475483
I don't have the core rules and haven't seen a pdf or a leak of anything but the close combat stuff.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:08:07 No.52475816 Report

Quoted By: >>52475828 >>52475884

>>52475670
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf
All rules outside of the main ones and SM + Orks

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:08:17 No.52475818 Report

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>>52475619
Will finish tomorow

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:09:08 No.52475828 Report

Quoted By: >>52475884

>>52475670
>>52475816
Woops, wrong one. Just a sec, sorry.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:12:19 No.52475870 Report

Quoted By: >>52475956

>>52474880

Run them as an allied detachment for Thousand Sons :^)

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:13:17 No.52475884 Report

Quoted By: >>52475993

>>52475816
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/ShadowWar/SWA_Killteams_ENG.pdf
I saw the first post, that's not what I was talking about. I was requesting the SM, IG, Orks, and actual gameplay that everyone is saying has already been posted when all I saw were 4 blurry photos of the melee combat rules.

>>52475828
Ok.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:17:36 No.52475956 Report

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>>52475870
>going outside of the imperial bubble
deathwatch all armed with power swords

AP3 shooting
AP3 combat
the perfect unit

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:19:04 No.52475972 Report

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alright, I know you guys hate tau and everything, but I just want to know one thing. Is crisis suit spam viable? I last played in 4th ed, and all I have left intact is a bunch of magnetized crisis suits and some pathfinders with a devilfish, I understand crisis can be troops now?

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:20:21 No.52475993 Report

Quoted By: >>52476009 >>52476081

>>52475884
Couldn't find the link I had for the main rules leaked but I can just post the individual pictures for you since I luckily had them saved.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:21:23 No.52476009 Report

Quoted By: >>52476030 >>52476081

>>52475993

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:21:50 No.52476020 Report

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>>52471997
>corporal punishment
Guess the USMC got the Corporal part confused

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:22:26 No.52476030 Report

Quoted By: >>52476081

>>52476009

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:25:57 No.52476081 Report

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>>52475993
>>52476009
>>52476030
Oh, was that actually all there was?

I was wondering how things like specialists and warband composition worked outside of "Make a list using 1000 points". Especially over campaigns and things.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:43:00 No.52476351 Report

Quoted By: >>52476412

so what would happen if the emperor somehow healed and got off his chair like gulliman?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:43:13 No.52476356 Report

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>>52471997
>Elsewhere, he was sent back through the gauntlet until death.

What a bunch of fucking dicks.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:46:57 No.52476412 Report

Quoted By: >>52476515 >>52477506

>>52476351
Guilliman still has that thing keeping him alive and the Emperor will need a much bigger one to keep him alive too.
Ever played... basically any shooter game's campaign that involved dozens of hostiles around bigtoughdude with a flamethrower and you shoot the tank on his back?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 04:53:49 No.52476515 Report

Quoted By: >>52476640

>>52476412
well what if, by some magic, he didnt need one , lets say he was back at full health. what would happen?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:03:04 No.52476635 Report

Quoted By: >>52476800

>>52475626
Imo having some kind of range weapons is always good, also I think the pistol can be used to shoot in CC, but you need to roll another to hit.

I think the Syren is very good candidate with a pistol because there're a skill n the Stealth table that allow hide and overwatch (i assume they keep this table the same).

Also you can only bring 10 guys in a battle and you can collect more income and recruit more member, you just can only have 1k at the start. The new recruit was supposed to be taken and babysit along with other ganger so they can become better later, they're also nice when you're out of money and guys.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:03:12 No.52476640 Report

Quoted By: >>52476681

>>52476515
What the fuck do you think will happen, idiot? Just look at the Great Crusade.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:07:04 No.52476681 Report

Quoted By: >>52476698 >>52476699 >>52476720

>>52476640
>All of Terra mus bend the knee and renounce religion accepting the Imperial Truth or be put to the blade.
>Major religion is that the Emperor is a god.
>Pilgrims, Sisters, and most Marines would die before renouncing their faith.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:07:21 No.52476684 Report

Quoted By: >>52476802

>>52475498
Sounds to me that scions need some buffs pretty bad

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:08:09 No.52476698 Report

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>>52476681
>and most Marines

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:08:17 No.52476699 Report

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>>52476681
>Most marines
Literally only the Black Templars. There's a reason they're seen as an oddity and scorned.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:09:56 No.52476720 Report

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>>52476681
im guessing hed just roll with it and phase it out over time like he did with the tech priests

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:15:32 No.52476800 Report

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>>52476635

If I drop a wych, I get 5 pistols for the others, then, and that's IF I can actually use it in melee. I just hope 7 starting dudes is enough.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:15:32 No.52476802 Report

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>>52476684
it was obvious from the start that they were gonna be a weak book

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 05:39:28 No.52477103 Report

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>>52474628
i give it a black templar outta grey knight
a little boring tbqh

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:02:54 No.52477354 Report

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>>52472849
> 10/10 would fuck her brains out until we both explode, literally and figuratively

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:17:25 No.52477506 Report

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>>52476412

It's possible he is a perpetual like Vulkan and the Chair is actually weakening him though.

Either that or he just gets re-spawned or whatever.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:20:03 No.52477533 Report

Quoted By: >>52477558

I am taking a fun list, and a WAAC list to my LGS next week, and I wondering what are the flags of cheese for each race?

For example, I know if I see 2 riptides (this is 1000 points), then I am busting out my gravcent/gravbike list.

What are similar things to check for low point cheese?

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:23:04 No.52477558 Report

Quoted By: >>52477589

>>52477533
>Eldar

ScatBikes, Wraithguard, Warp Spiders, Wraithknight

>Necrons

Decurion

>Daemons

Tzeentch

>Chaos Marines

Deathguard Bikers

>Marines

Gravspam

>Nids

Flyrants

>Orks

Allies in one of the above

Also, superheavies of any kind

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:26:13 No.52477589 Report

Quoted By: >>52477601

>>52477558
Thanks friend.

Does anyone know if you can use prescience to re-roll "gets hot" on plasma cannons?

This is from the BRB:
>If a model has the ability to re-roll its rolls To Hit and chooses to do so after firing a Blast weapon, the player must re-roll both the scatter dice and the 2D6.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:27:22 No.52477601 Report

Quoted By: >>52477616

>>52477589
I believe they do, but I think there was a recent FAQ on it as well.

Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:28:40 No.52477616 Report

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>>52477601
You are correct, I didn't think to look there
>Q: Do plasma cannons and other Gets Hot Blast weapons benefit from rules that allow them to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1? For example, a Clan Raukaan character wearing the Tempered Helm nominates a unit of friendly Devastators to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1 in this Shooting phase. These Devastators are all equipped with plasma cannons. Do they get to re-roll the Gets Hot roll if it comes up as 1?
>A: Yes.

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Anonymous Sat 01 Apr 2017 06:39:12 No.52477715 Report

Quoted By: >>52477722

This is the fun list

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