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Anonymous Thu 11 May 01:52:08 2017 No.53173437 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53173494 >>53173500 >>53173576 >>53174784

Delusional heretics edition

Previous confused leman russes
>>53169581

>Daily Dunc
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>8th edition FAQ:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf2

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:55:30 No.53173490 Report

Quoted By: >>53174425

EIGHT FOR THE EIGHT

LET TERROR REIGN

AVE DOMINOUS NOX

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:56:01 No.53173494 Report

Quoted By: >>53173521 >>53173533 >>53173539 >>53173703

>>53173437
Please, mighty Vanquisher! Vanquish this stupid battle cannon randomness by becoming the best variant!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:56:12 No.53173495 Report

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nth for 8th
Wait shit

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:56:38 No.53173500 Report

Quoted By: >>53173563 >>53173575 >>53173625 >>53173972

>>53173437
Will they ever be worth it?

I want to do a Termagant themed army with Tervigons, Tyrannofexes with Fleshborer Hives to act as my giant Termagants, and a whole lotta Termagants.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:57:11 No.53173505 Report

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my dudes > your dudes

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:57:16 No.53173506 Report

Quoted By: >>53173543

>mfw Rapid-firing twin-linked Splinter Rifles from my Raider onto the filthy mon-keighs

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:58:17 No.53173518 Report

Quoted By: >>53174680

Nth for best legion, primarch, named characters and special unit.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:58:22 No.53173521 Report

Quoted By: >>53173548

>>53173494
Vanquisher cannon will most likely do just one hit, but way more damage.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:59:19 No.53173533 Report

Quoted By: >>53173593

>>53173494
I feel it'll suffer if it can't give itself a way to re-roll to hit like with co-axials. Hoping for S8 AP-3 DMG3+D3 or better.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:59:46 No.53173539 Report

Quoted By: >>53173656

>>53173494
>S 8
>AP -3
>Damage 2d6 take highest

Search your heart, you know it to be true

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 01:59:59 No.53173543 Report

Quoted By: >>53175140

>>53173506
>44 splinter shots per raider

My body is ready

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:00:11 No.53173548 Report

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>>53173521
Tbh at this point I just expect it to get a bonus to hitting enemy vehicles. So more reliable damage over flat more damage.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:01:24 No.53173563 Report

Quoted By: >>53173623 >>53173949

>>53173500
Tervigons are not worth it for 8th. They would be worth it if:

-You could choose between allocating towards new Termagant units (minimum 10 models), or replenishing lost Termagants (restoring Devgants).
-Instant Death was just "d3 extra wounds"
-They were ML 2/automatically got a choice of Catalyst or Onslaught. (Could be a WC battery if nothing else).
-Non-flyrant Thorax Weapons had Torrent (aka, Torrent Haywire).

As is, nope. They worked in some 5e builds, but that was before Psykerhammer, and when Hive Guard were BS 4.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:01:31 No.53173565 Report

Quoted By: >>53173587 >>53173633 >>53174182 >>53174288 >>53174318 >>53174691 >>53175171 >>53175479 >>53176166

What are you lads doing? Just finished 20 Mordians.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:02:30 No.53173575 Report

Quoted By: >>53173600

>>53173500
Man I'm hyped for swarm nids to be good. I just want Tervigons shitting out babies, Hormagaunts tearing tau and eldar to shreds, maybe backed up by trygons, raveners and mawlocs to disrupt the enemy lines.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:02:35 No.53173576 Report

Quoted By: >>53173599 >>53173637 >>53173653 >>53175035

>>53173437
So, according to that guy who wrote the article about the Imperial Guard, Russes are great and lasguns still can't do diddly.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:03:09 No.53173587 Report

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>>53173565
any more pics?
I'm finishing a squad of Death Korps atm

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:03:27 No.53173593 Report

Quoted By: >>53173749

>>53173533
Probably just a long range meltagun just like the current vanquisher: 96" Heavy 1 S:8 AP:-3 D:d6 reroll.

AP-4 or S9 would be nice, though.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:04:02 No.53173599 Report

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>>53173576
Confirms roll for shot number too.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:04:04 No.53173600 Report

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>>53173575
Also hype for TLD with Brainleech becoming 12 shots each with the twin link change

Go go dakkafex!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:05:50 No.53173623 Report

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>>53173563
Wow, you already know the Tervigon's stats, all its rules for 8th, and its point cost ?! Please tell us !

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:06:02 No.53173625 Report

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>>53173500
Tervigons were pretty solid in that blissful period where the FAQ made it clear that they could summon gants that had obsec if it was in a CAD, but before the final FAQ decied to shit all over MCs getting a cover save.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:06:13 No.53173627 Report

Quoted By: >>53173690 >>53175532

why doesn't the Leman Russ kit come with a Vanquisher cannon? I see it comes with a battle cannon, but slightly longer, but every piece of work I see that involves the Vanquisher has it at like 3x that length.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:06:29 No.53173633 Report

Quoted By: >>53174044

>>53173565
About to start working through the 3rd out of 4 highlight layers on my Reavers in a minute after I take a shower.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:06:37 No.53173637 Report

Quoted By: >>53173658

>>53173576
>Powerful just like the Battle Cannon Should Be

THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU! WE KNOW HOW TO DO MATH AND YOUR RELEASED INFORMATION IS NOT! PROMISING!

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:07:38 No.53173648 Report

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> When you didn't think combi-weapon veterans could get any better.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:07:56 No.53173653 Report

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>>53173576
>Guy doesn't even work for GW
>Can explain how the new battlecannon works better than GW employees

Top kek.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:08:05 No.53173656 Report

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>>53173539
The problem with the neo-meltagun vanquisher cannon was never its damage or to-wound mechanic. It was getting it to hit. If we can give it a reroll to hit or BS5 or something to that effect, I'll call it a win.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:08:09 No.53173657 Report

Quoted By: >>53173686 >>53174174

Phobos are love, Phobos are life!.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:08:12 No.53173658 Report

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>>53173637
Unless there's some special rule on the unit that makes it way better. But I doubt anyone that playtested 8th ed is going to say anything negative about it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:10:25 No.53173686 Report

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>>53173657
>Now with twice the Dakka !

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:10:38 No.53173690 Report

Quoted By: >>53173703

>>53173627
Anon that is the Vanquisher cannon.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:11:29 No.53173703 Report

Quoted By: >>53173720

>>53173690
ok I thought as much, but it doesn't look nearly as long as >>53173494

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:12:25 No.53173720 Report

Quoted By: >>53173805

>>53173703
That's because the one in that pic is from FW I think.

FW is great at providing ... 'compensation' models :^)

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:13:34 No.53173736 Report

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I really want to see the changes to the Assassins, if any.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:14:12 No.53173749 Report

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>>53173593
Absolute suffering, if its just a long meltagun. I would just bring Vendettas and Lascannon HWTs if I needed ranged anti-tank/MC instead.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:14:33 No.53173754 Report

Quoted By: >>53173781 >>53173791 >>53173796 >>53173842

Personally I like the new battlecannon, now it has a real role as opposed to be the generalist cannon. It opens up the possibility for the Punisher to be the real anti-infantry gun while the battle cannon is a cheaper anti-tank/multi wound model.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:16:24 No.53173781 Report

Quoted By: >>53173803

>>53173754
The entire point of the battle cannon is to be a generalist cannon though.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:16:48 No.53173791 Report

Quoted By: >>53173839

>>53173754
Agreed, as long as the price is right it will be good. Though I still think the cannon is a generalist weapon. The Vanquisher should be better at anti tank

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:17:18 No.53173796 Report

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>>53173754
Yeah, if they make the "Classic" LR dirt cheap, then I'll be fine with these stats.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:17:37 No.53173803 Report

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>>53173781
It still is. It's kinda ok against anything, but great at nothing ... unless you get that lucky 18 wounds on a single model unit.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:17:46 No.53173805 Report

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>>53173720
top kek anon

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:18:23 No.53173812 Report

Quoted By: >>53173826 >>53173831

Almost 0 xenos stats so far
Lets speculate gun/units/rules

Necrons players?
Maybe you get gauss -1 rend on 6 to wound?
Dunno what might need a buff or dramatic change

Tau players?
Pulse stats as bolter +1 str
Railsides buffed please

Eldar?
Broken but how broken

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:19:44 No.53173826 Report

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>>53173812
Railsides are finally buffed to 2 shots.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:20:01 No.53173831 Report

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>>53173812
>Broken but how broken

Gonna take the longshot and say not broken at all.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:20:27 No.53173839 Report

Quoted By: >>53173863 >>53173885 >>53173964 >>53174137 >>53179288

>>53173791
Yeah, the BC is still generalist. For the explodey cannons it goes

> Anti-Infantry: Nova Cannon
> Multi-purpose: Battle Cannon
> Anti-Tank: Vanquisher

Now all I can hope for is that the Imperial Guard realizes that they can put Twin Lascannons in the LR turret.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:20:31 No.53173842 Report

Quoted By: >>53174829 >>53176437

>>53173754
A role against what?
It sucks against Vehicles>>53172828
It sucks against Light Infantry (6 kills maximum)
It sucks against Medium infantry (Average 1.75 hits before to-wound rolls, and Space Marines get a 5+ save against it)
It sucks against terminators (see above, but with a further 33% chance that the wound you do make won't kill the terminator, and a better save)
So what's left? Medium vehicles? At this point we're waiting to hear what special rules might save this crap gun.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:22:10 No.53173863 Report

Quoted By: >>53173906 >>53173995 >>53174137

>>53173839
>Now all I can hope for is that the Imperial Guard realizes that they can put Twin Lascannons in the LR turret.
The Leman Russ Annihilator is already a thing

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:23:29 No.53173885 Report

Quoted By: >>53173995 >>53174088

>>53173839
>Double lascannons

You rang?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:24:39 No.53173906 Report

Quoted By: >>53173932 >>53173954

>>53173863
>Having to buy forgeworld or convert a fuckload of Lascannons to use a viable unit

The new games workshop™ looks like the same shit then.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:26:01 No.53173932 Report

Quoted By: >>53175665

>>53173906
You haven't even seen the full rules yet, calm the fuck down.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:27:06 No.53173949 Report

Quoted By: >>53173983

>>53173563
Instant death isn't a thing in 8th.

WC batteries don't exist. We don't generate warp charges anymore.

We've heard there will be one psychic discipline for each faction

We don't know if Torrent even exists in 8th

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:27:13 No.53173954 Report

Quoted By: >>53173966 >>53173969 >>53174243

>>53173906
At least it's a variant not in the core book. The lack of Vendetta kits from GW is even more of an insult considering it's a unit in the goddamn codex.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:27:35 No.53173964 Report

Quoted By: >>53174015

>>53173839
Oh that makes me wonder, will the Nova cannon be Heavy 2d6 with no cover? Likely AP -1 or 0 and only damage 1

There there's the Plasma Cannon, my favorite looking, Heavy 3d3?

FUCK I JUST WANT 8TH ALREADY!!!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:28:09 No.53173966 Report

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>>53173954
Rough. Riders.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:28:19 No.53173969 Report

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>>53173954
Just grab them off your spare HWS packs. Well, maybe not if your not an Autocannon man.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:28:29 No.53173972 Report

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>>53173500
That's a tyrannofex. And they BETTER be useful in the new edition. Fleshborer hives assault 20 twin linked for 40 bolter shots? Yes please.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:29:03 No.53173983 Report

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>>53173949
>We don't know if Torrent even exists in 8th

That's easy, now you just give flamer type weapons whatever range you want

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:29:25 No.53173995 Report

Quoted By: >>53174019 >>53174068

>>53173863
>>53173885

I mean without having to go to forgeworld.

But if the rules are all consolidated, does that mean all the Russ Variants will be in one place?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:30:42 No.53174015 Report

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>>53173964
I could see Novas being Heavy 2d6, or getting a bonus number of hits based on unit size.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:30:44 No.53174016 Report

Quoted By: >>53174042 >>53174049 >>53174065 >>53174075 >>53174130 >>53174656 >>53175265

Selling my 6 riptides, 8th edition is a fucking joke. Why is any Tau player going to keep playing this bullshit? FUCK GW, FUCK NERFS, muh babies

please, message GW and tell them you are upset too and want the lore and feel of riptides to remain good in 8th

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:30:51 No.53174019 Report

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>>53173995
Maybe, they might still have it broken up into two parts so people can choose to shun FW if they are lame.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:31:28 No.53174032 Report

Quoted By: >>53174060 >>53175676

So, what's the best army to start on a 100 dollar budget in Kill Team?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:32:25 No.53174042 Report

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>>53174016
Alright. I'll message them to tell them that I would like the rare prototype centerpiece battlesuits to remain as such, and have a point cost to reflect how strong they are.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:32:46 No.53174044 Report

Quoted By: >>53174139

>>53173633
I'm planning on starting a deldar force in 8th, and just looking at all the highlighting terrifies me.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:33:04 No.53174049 Report

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>>53174016
1/10
see me after class

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:33:41 No.53174060 Report

Quoted By: >>53174430

>>53174032
It's kind of a poor question really, you should just play whatever you like the most. but if money is an issue then don't go for a horde army.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:33:57 No.53174065 Report

Quoted By: >>53174082

>>53174016
Sure, I'll tell them how delicous your tears are.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:34:13 No.53174068 Report

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>>53173995
The rules might be in the same place but you can be sure they won't update the kit and the best variants will still be items to buy separately.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:34:30 No.53174075 Report

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>>53174016
obvious troll, but really I think the way to balance rapetides is to not update them. Keep them 6 wound models with a 2+, that's not really good in 8th from what we have seen.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:35:02 No.53174082 Report

Quoted By: >>53174100 >>53174141

>>53174065
Why would you punish a paying fan who buys your products? Tau should be powerful mecha force it's in the fucking lore.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:35:34 No.53174088 Report

Quoted By: >>53174187

>>53173885
kind of regret not picking imperial guard as my army but those cadian models just look terrible.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:36:05 No.53174093 Report

Quoted By: >>53175710 >>53175730

>tfw you start a game and the other guy has 4 Icarus Lascannons
> Fliers aren't a thing, so neither is skyfire
> All tanks die turn 1

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:36:09 No.53174095 Report

Quoted By: >>53174098

do we have any idea on when 8th edition will release?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:36:44 No.53174098 Report

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>>53174095
Last week of May for rules pre-release, first weekend in June for full release.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:36:45 No.53174100 Report

Quoted By: >>53175710

>>53174082
>Why would you punish a paying fan who buys your products?

Same question (insert other faction who had to play against Riptide spam) players have been asking

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:36:48 No.53174102 Report

Quoted By: >>53174116 >>53174134 >>53174267

would it be possible to play warhammer in roll20 with free tokens?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:38:04 No.53174116 Report

Quoted By: >>53174128

>>53174102
Don't be a cheap cunt and get the tabletop simulator.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:38:44 No.53174128 Report

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>>53174116
tabletop simulator?
Shit man can you blame a poorfag for being poor?

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:38:49 No.53174130 Report

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>>53174016
Nice meme dude.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:38:57 No.53174131 Report

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>mfw triple land raider black templar list is viable

I can already see min-maxers using 5 man las plas squads in land raiders.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:39:13 No.53174134 Report

Quoted By: >>53174150

>>53174102
dark heresy? yes.
the wargame? stupid question

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:39:18 No.53174137 Report

Quoted By: >>53174174 >>53174979

>>53173863
>>53173839

This anon is right. We're getting the FW rules for it. Just put one together. Annihilator Russ is great fun.

Don't forget other russ variants. I suspect this is what we will see this edition in rule-set if they are releasing ALL of FW

General Purpose / Hard Hitting
> Battle Cannon - this we know
> Exterminator Twin Autocannon - know what to expect

Anti Infantry
> Eradicator - Curious
> Punisher - We know what to expect kind of
> Conqueror - lol who uses them???

Anti Vehicle / Big Shit
> Vanquisher - probably 2D6 BC with better AP and special rules
> Annihilator Twin Las - we know what to expect here
> Destroyer - Probably 1 shot with like 3D6 damage

Jack of All Trades
> Demolisher - expect it to be 2D6 BC with better wounds, should be lethal as fuck
> Thunderer - Above
> Executioner - Plasma spam is plasma spam, now damage of D3 probably
I suspect the main build for the LR will become:
>Hull LC
>HBolter sponsons
>Stormbolter
>Gun of choice for purpose

How I will be running my LR...

>Hull flamer
>Sponson flamer
>Punisher or Demolisher

I'll let my lascannon teams kill big shit. My flammen-russ will storm the table in a whirlwind of wounds. 3 heavy flamers on a leman russ in this edition, independently targeting what-ever, while main guns do their thing.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:39:23 No.53174139 Report

Quoted By: >>53174325

>>53174044
Turn that fear into drive, anon. If you don't know how to highlight Dark Eldar will make sure you learn. I was terrified, too.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:39:38 No.53174141 Report

Quoted By: >>53174194

>>53174082
No it's in their lore that they overwhelmingly use a combined arms style doctrine backed up by a handful of elites in mechs. Do you actually know their lore?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:40:15 No.53174150 Report

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>>53174134
It should be theoretically as long as you are clear on what stands for what.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:41:11 No.53174162 Report

Quoted By: >>53174167 >>53174188 >>53174251 >>53175756

How are chimeras going to be in 8th edition?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:41:21 No.53174163 Report

Quoted By: >>53174181 >>53174324

Hey I have a question. Is GW ever going to release female cadian troops? Im one of those fags that gets a stick up my ass if i cant make my armies lore approved so this is vital info for me.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:41:37 No.53174167 Report

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>>53174162
t7, 4+

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:41:58 No.53174174 Report

Quoted By: >>53175039

>>53173657
> Dat feel when my LR-Crusader gets 24 bolter shots, 8 Assault Cannon Shots, Multi-melta, AND a storm bolter
> Dat feel when my Deredeo now has 8 shots at strength 8 instead of 4, as well as 6 heavy bolter shots.
> My Deoderant Tank now gets 4 missiles a turn, with 6 missiles on the first. GOODBYE TANKS.

>>53174137
Javelins are going to be fucking amazing. They were already okay-ish in 7th ed, especially for harassing tanks from outflank. But literally doubling the number of missiles they get is going to make them just god-tier.

I only have one rogue-trader era javelin(The one you make by hand out of spare bits and a deoderant stick), but I should splurge for more bits to make like 2 more. Get like a whole squadron of Deoderant Tanks.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:42:19 No.53174181 Report

Quoted By: >>53174268

>>53174163
They already did. Half of all Cadian models are female.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:42:24 No.53174182 Report

Quoted By: >>53174192

>>53173565
Wip battlewagon, cannon is from an old zaku toy I had as a kid and lost 90% of.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:42:43 No.53174187 Report

Quoted By: >>53177568

>>53174088

Both IG and ork I love the idea of, but just don't like the models enough to play (outside some of the FW, but I'm not made of money).
And Catachans are even worse than Cadian, imo.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:42:45 No.53174188 Report

Quoted By: >>53174216

>>53174162
I just hope tanks are usable at all.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:43:15 No.53174192 Report

Quoted By: >>53174205 >>53174345

>>53174182
T H I N

H

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YOUR GODDAMN PAINTS.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:43:24 No.53174194 Report

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>>53174141
Well with the bigger and bigger suits they're making it seems that even GW doesn't know Tau fluff

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:43:55 No.53174205 Report

Quoted By: >>53174223 >>53174230 >>53174241 >>53174345

>>53174192
Don't ever tell an ork player to thin his paints.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:44:37 No.53174216 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174188
Hopefully

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:45:04 No.53174223 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174205
Oi but ya can tell 'im to SOD OFF

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:45:37 No.53174230 Report

Quoted By: >>53174274

>>53174205
I am in my right to tell someone to thin their paints. Orks can be made to look amazing. Just not with thick paints.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:46:15 No.53174241 Report

Quoted By: >>53174274

>>53174205
Thin them, you goddamn green space nigger.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:46:18 No.53174243 Report

Quoted By: >>53174306

>>53173954
Shrikes and sky slashers havent had legit models ever, since their inception. Yet they are somehow still in the book. Even worse; when they finally decided to make an updated warrior kit, there were no wing options.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:46:44 No.53174251 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174162
They'll be fine. I finally have an excuse to field the HB turret, which I think looks way better.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:47:37 No.53174267 Report

Quoted By: >>53174296

>>53174102
Big problem I see would be sorting out LoS.
Horizontally would be fine, vertically I don't know how you'd do it.

Actually, verticality in general.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:47:50 No.53174268 Report

Quoted By: >>53174285

>>53174181
No they arent. They are visibly all male.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:48:14 No.53174274 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174241
>>53174230
I know, I've just encountered so many poorly painted Ork armies.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:48:55 No.53174285 Report

Quoted By: >>53174309

>>53174268
With the exception of Mira, all female Cadians look like men.

An army of cunt-boys.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:49:10 No.53174288 Report

Quoted By:

>>53173565
I'm deciding wheter to drill this elysian head off the gunner seat in the Tauros Venator or just leaving it as is. I've got a Kasrkin head handy, but it looks like the Elysian is screaming in terror when i grab the drill

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:49:53 No.53174296 Report

Quoted By: >>53174401 >>53176737

>>53174267
i want to know if i'd like the game before i invest any sort of cash into it.

By the way, what do you need to get started?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:50:48 No.53174306 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174243
But Anon look at all the other kits with wings! Just buy one of those and have fun converting :^)

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:51:12 No.53174309 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174285
Mate not even 40k lore is that stupid. Sigh... anyone experienced with the arcadian then? How well do they fit with cadian troops. They are pretty close i think but id like other opinions before i drop money on troops that cost twice as much.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:51:45 No.53174318 Report

Quoted By:

>>53173565
Watching a movie since it's late and I got off work a few hours ago. I'll try to finish up my CSM squad tomorrow and then go on a bitz buying spree because I'm getting some bikers pretty soon off an order and I want them to use spears along with the next squad I paint.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:52:02 No.53174324 Report

Quoted By: >>53174347 >>53174354

>>53174163
Female Guard regiments are extremely rare, and mixed regiments are even rarer.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:52:04 No.53174325 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174139
I've got time to learn.
I've ordered some wyches which I can hopefully use for more than just SW:A, but my billing cycle is just starting, so wont be getting the Start Collecting box for a little.

I've got some Ravenwing from Dark Vengeance that really seem to benefit from it, though, so I'll practice on those while I save up.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:53:58 No.53174345 Report

Quoted By: >>53174377 >>53174380 >>53174403

>>53174192
>>53174205
I've never been able to find a good balance for watering down without being too thick or getting so runny it fills in the cracks.
Also might be the army painter paints. I recently started buying citadel and it feels like the pigment is much stronger.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:54:08 No.53174347 Report

Quoted By: >>53174370 >>53174409

>>53174324
The cadian regiments are all mixed, the cadian regiments are alsi the most common. The former because idk, the latter because GW is lazy and will only shelf cadians. Regardless the lore puts cadians squarely in the camp of recruiting every man woman and child they can get their hands on. I will field them as such if i can.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:54:26 No.53174354 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174324
They're probably also only ever formed after all the men have died.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:55:46 No.53174370 Report

Quoted By: >>53174393 >>53174465

>>53174347
You should be able to find at least some headswaps no problem. Cadians wear baggy enough fatigues to not need a full body swap and if you seriously need a modeled female body then there are plenty of third-party minis that look close enough while being cheaper than GW could offer you.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:56:20 No.53174377 Report

Quoted By: >>53174403 >>53174435

>>53174345
Well the next advice is that you do the following
> Paint on palette
> Add like 25% water
> Put brush in it.
> 'dip' your brush into a paper towel
> Now paint the model.

Other than that, it's just pure practice on getting the ratios right. Alternatively you can just get a wet palette, and allow it to automagically thin your paints for you. It costs like 3$ to make a wet palette that will last forever.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:56:39 No.53174380 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174345
Exposed for the phone poster I am

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:57:20 No.53174389 Report

Quoted By: >>53174470

> When you realise Cadia died because GW couldn't copyright it.

SAD

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:57:38 No.53174393 Report

Quoted By: >>53174500

>>53174370
Eh, the only ones that arent shitty are the victoria arcadia models. But those are expensive. What would be a good place spare heads?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:58:31 No.53174401 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174296
I bought Dark Vengeance and split it with a mate.
$85 dollarydoos, including some basic paint supplies, rulebook etc. Bought a can of primer and a few other paints, too, but outside the primer not strictly necessary.
They'll be doing an updated one with 8th.

Haven't played many games yet and it's still been worth the money, just due to the time spent painting.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:58:39 No.53174403 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174345
>>53174377
Or if you want to be a pig about it
Thin your fucking paints like a mad man
Do several layers

Then finish it with drybush to highlight details.
Not all models will look good with this, usually the ones who have tons of crevices look tabletop ready with this alone though.
BE FUCKING CAREFUL when you drybush it.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:58:58 No.53174409 Report

Quoted By: >>53175565

>>53174347
Cadia basically puts every single born child into boot camp for most of their life before joining the white shields, then either kasrkin or fully fledge Cadian guardsmen

Pic related is the best cadian rendition, though I prefer if the shoulder pads weren't so huge, and there was more gear webbing

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 02:59:49 No.53174425 Report

Quoted By:

>>53173490
>"If you kill me and my Legion, I win."
d.Night Haunter

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:00:08 No.53174430 Report

Quoted By: >>53174439

>>53174060
Problem is I'm just a lorefag with a lot of likes. IG, Daemons, and Eldar are probably the top of the list.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:00:40 No.53174435 Report

Quoted By: >>53174447 >>53174497

>>53174377
Different anon, but care to give a brief overview of how to wet pallet?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:00:52 No.53174439 Report

Quoted By: >>53174583

>>53174430
do SA or IMaWC with Daemon allies.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:01:32 No.53174447 Report

Quoted By: >>53174497

>>53174435
Wet a paper towel, place a piece of wax paper over it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:02:30 No.53174465 Report

Quoted By: >>53174509 >>53174562 >>53174671

>>53174370
Personally I see why games workshop doesn't do female cadians. A woman in a cadian uniform would be also indistinguishable from a man unless you were standing close to her. I have a feeling that no matter how they sculpted the figure people would complain about it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:02:43 No.53174470 Report

Quoted By: >>53174488

>>53174389
Cadia isnt dead mate. The cadians never left. There are entire regiments stil planet side sitting in the trenches in their cardboard boxes shooting their flashlights at the endless hoards of deamons.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:04:03 No.53174488 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174470
daemons don't exist anon, the commissar might want to hear why you think Chaos has anything besides foolish cultists.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:04:07 No.53174489 Report

Quoted By:

So the council of nikea was because everyone was jealous of magnus not losing any of the thousand sons while bringing planets into the imperium?

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:04:23 No.53174495 Report

Quoted By: >>53174533 >>53176572

How do I best kitbash MANz to look like this?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:04:38 No.53174497 Report

Quoted By: >>53174648

>>53174447
Wax paper isn't right, water can't seep through it so it doesn't thin your paints or keep them fully wet.

>>53174435
My phone just up and fucking died permanently yesterday, otherwise I would show pictures of my wet palette, but here's the gist of it:

> Buy a small-ish tupperware bin.
> Paper Towels
> Parchment Paper(NOT WAX PAPER.)
All comes to roughly 3$

Preparing:
> Put a paper towel in the tupperware bin
> put water in until there is a 1/4 inch thick flow on top of the towel.
> Put parchment on top of it.
> Add paint.
> Go ahead and use it. Just replace the parchment after every day of painting.

To thin your paints down, merely spread them across the palette further than you would normally. The wider you spread the paint, the more water it sucks up from underneath the parchment. Doing this lets you extremely precisely control the amount of water in your paint.

It also keeps your paint wet for longer. A freshly made palette can keep paint wet for up to 10 hours.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:04:43 No.53174500 Report

Quoted By: >>53174553

>>53174393
Statuesque seems to make some good ones, though I don't shop for female head swaps so look around some more yourself.

http://www.statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/p/9233474/sma351-heroic-scale-female-heads-narrow.html

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:05:04 No.53174509 Report

Quoted By: >>53174524

>>53174465
I mean people are going to bitch regardless. Because GW never makes enough fucking models.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:06:37 No.53174524 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174509
>GW never makes enough models that aren't space Marines

Fixed.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:07:04 No.53174533 Report

Quoted By: >>53174570

>>53174495
Your best starting point would probably be an Orruk model since AOS Orkz have much better proportions than 40k ones. From there you should just need to do some weapon swaps and cut up some plasticard to make the typical ramshackle as fuck Ork armor.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:08:49 No.53174553 Report

Quoted By: >>53174567 >>53174576

>>53174500
I like these. Two more questions. Do they have a bald variety? And does GW sell bits? Because i only have like 3 helmet bits.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:09:24 No.53174562 Report

Quoted By: >>53174788 >>53174858

>>53174465
It doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal to make them have just enough to be noticeable curves and a womans face with a pony tail or whatever.
But this is the internet we are talking about here and it is gw we are dealing with.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:09:36 No.53174567 Report

Quoted By: >>53174629

>>53174553
>wanting female guardsmen
For what purpose?

But nah, GW dinnae sell bits.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:09:52 No.53174570 Report

Quoted By: >>53174620

>>53174533
Thanks boss. Sounds good to me. Do you happen to know by chance if the skull there has anything under it/is removable?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:10:15 No.53174576 Report

Quoted By: >>53174629

>>53174553
>Do they have a bald variety?
Couldn't tell ya.
>And does GW sell bits?
They don't but plenty of websites out there strip down GW kits to sell the individual parts.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:11:18 No.53174583 Report

Quoted By: >>53174619 >>53174663

>>53174439
I'm retarded, what are those short for, anon? Google's giving me nothing. I'm guessing IMaWC are a specific warband.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:13:35 No.53174611 Report

Quoted By: >>53174675 >>53174807 >>53175318

So are IG wyverns shit now?

With combi weapons no longer being single shot are vehicles in general shit now?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:14:07 No.53174619 Report

Quoted By: >>53174663 >>53174702

>>53174583
Solar Auxilia and Imperial Militia and Warp Cults, which are 30k armies.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:14:09 No.53174620 Report

Quoted By: >>53174662

>>53174570
According to this video it looks like one half of the big skull is attached to the shoulder plating but it should be easy enough to cut off and greenstuff whatever gap is there. I can't tell you much more than that, I don't play AoS or Orkz/Orruks, I just knew that their warboss has good proportions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqYnWa0VaZI

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:14:31 No.53174629 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174567
I field cadians, they are a mixed regiment. I like their lore so i want to be accurate with it because i am a lore fag.
>>53174576
I did actually find a bald variety after searching a bit so thats nice. I will search for those bits then.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:16:41 No.53174648 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174497
Champion, sounds super straight forward.
I've been using a spare tile, and feel like I've been wasting a ton of paint to it.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:17:12 No.53174656 Report

Quoted By: >>53174720

>>53174016
...riptides

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:17:38 No.53174662 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174620
Appreciate the help

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:17:44 No.53174663 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174619
>>53174583
Shit, sorry, I thought this was hhg.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:18:29 No.53174671 Report

Quoted By: >>53174724

>>53174465
The main problem is that it's already a stretch to say the plastic cadians resemble humans at all.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:18:39 No.53174675 Report

Quoted By: >>53174749

>>53174611
>t. only knows how to netlist

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:18:51 No.53174680 Report

Quoted By: >>53174787

>>53173518
I didn't knew Ultramarines had purple colors and guitars, must be unorthodox Guilliman's tactics.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:19:20 No.53174691 Report

Quoted By: >>53174768

>>53173565

Well, I'm at work, but when I get home, I'm probably going to finish magnetizing the wych squad and kill 2 birds with one stone. That'll give me another 40k squad AND a SWA team.

Pic related

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:20:18 No.53174702 Report

Quoted By: >>53174763

>>53174619
Holy shit these look amazing, anon.

Are HH armies supported with Kill Team rules?

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:21:50 No.53174720 Report

Quoted By: >>53175357

>>53174656
You just reminded me of a guy who "converted" all of his 8 riptides out of 1:144 scale gundam models. That is to say he stuck them on bases and didn't put a single tau bit on them.

Needless to say I never played with him.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:21:58 No.53174724 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174671
If they updated the models i would start collecting imp guard immediately. I went for tau because i like battletech and giant robots and animes and their basic troops didn't look like mongoloids

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:24:38 No.53174749 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174675
Nah dawg just bought a couple a long time ago along with a vendetta cause they look sweet

I don't get how the template changes were implemented so Im not sure if they're null

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:25:23 No.53174763 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174702
No, they're not meant for use in small point games.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:25:59 No.53174768 Report

Quoted By: >>53174831 >>53174852

>>53174691
How hard were they to magnetize?
I've ordered my magnets, and should be getting the wyches tomorrow, but I'm worried about how thin the plastic will be.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:27:23 No.53174784 Report

Quoted By:

>>53173437
You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not Emperor of Man, you're a chicken, Boo.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:27:52 No.53174787 Report

Quoted By: >>53174877

>>53174680
>Rawbooty

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:28:14 No.53174788 Report

Quoted By: >>53176054

>>53174562
The thing is because they are tiny plastic army men you need to design them with over the top features to make them pop. I don't think games work are very good at doing women anyway but I guess they are getting better?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:29:40 No.53174807 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174611
I think Wyverns will be alright, I can see their quad twin-linked blasts turning into a huge volume of fire. I imagine each twin Stormshard Mortar will be something similar to 48" Heavy 4d3 S4 AP0 D1 Re-roll failed to wound and/or ignore cover bonus.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:31:36 No.53174829 Report

Quoted By: >>53174921

>>53173842
I am worried about this. I have to think that I am missing something because most people seem to be loving the new battlecannon stats, but they are absolutely terrible. Add to this the fact that things we didn't care about like heavy bolters are now going to frontally wound a Leman Russ on a 5+ makes me think that our tanks are going to be useless.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:31:51 No.53174831 Report

Quoted By: >>53174852 >>53174895

>>53174768

Not very. All the attached weapons on the wyches have 2x1mm magnets in them and the torso drilled with a 5/32 bit, which is perfectly snug. Just be careful, though because the arm itself isn't much wider than the magnet, but you should have more than enough depth to drill.

I use a pin vise and a $7 pack of dremel bits from Walmart, and I've regretted nothing so far. The pack goes as thin as 1/32 I think and goes up from there.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:33:28 No.53174852 Report

Quoted By: >>53175008

>>53174831
>>53174768

Also, be careful with the curved razor flail if you use it. I nearly snapped it getting to the socket because it wraps back around the top.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:34:13 No.53174858 Report

Quoted By: >>53175393 >>53176054

>>53174562
Unless you want them to look full waifu instead of soldiers who happen to be women, good luck. These are tiny models that people paint, the details wouldn't be noticeable enough to make it worth it. Unless you want SoB boobplate there's not much to do with a helmet and generic human face while people are wearing body armor.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:35:50 No.53174877 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174787
>Fagrim

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:36:03 No.53174880 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw I might actually use TLHB on my immolators for the first time since forever

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:36:43 No.53174895 Report

Quoted By: >>53175415

>>53174831
Sweet, thanks.

I'm getting these, so should work out the same (and given the drill bit comes with it, it should fit them pretty nicely).
http://www.thecombatcompany.com/rare-earth-magnets/modifx-magnets-mini-starter-2-00mm-x-50pcs-drill/

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:39:08 No.53174921 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174829
They are still 12w with a cover improvable 3+ save so they are pretty durable. But yeah new battle cannon is shit.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:43:28 No.53174979 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174137
I wonder if the nova cannon will ignore bonuses to save rolls.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:45:20 No.53175008 Report

Quoted By: >>53175415

>>53174852
>razor flail
That just makes me think of how I don't envy Dark Eldar players. Painting all the thin spikey bits, chains, hooks, and everything else about them would have my ass clenched tight enough to open a pickle jar.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:46:34 No.53175020 Report

Quoted By: >>53175049 >>53175051 >>53175084 >>53175344

So there's no way they're nerfing Eldar now, right? Everyone with twin-linked is getting a HUGE buff, Eldar rarely benefits from it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:47:29 No.53175035 Report

Quoted By:

>>53173576
Lasguns have been great since forever. FRFSRF has been amazing since 5th.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:47:54 No.53175039 Report

Quoted By: >>53175099

>>53174174
>Deoderant Tank
TASTE

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:48:45 No.53175049 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175020
I hope knife eared fucks get nerfed into the ground as payment for all the past bullshit. The butthurt would be tremendous.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:48:51 No.53175051 Report

Quoted By: >>53175071

>>53175020
I hope Eldar get blown the fuck out.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:50:03 No.53175070 Report

Quoted By:

space jews

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:50:10 No.53175071 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175051
I hope all the waacfags flocks to your army when they ditch elfs :)

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:51:34 No.53175084 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175020
Nobody likes eldar, not even eldar players

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:52:39 No.53175097 Report

Quoted By:

I am still amazed gw didn't just make 8th compatible with AoS ala wm/hordes

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:52:40 No.53175099 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175039
It's fucking stupid how good that actually looks. It could probably do with some plasticard in a few areas to break up the profile but as-is deodorant tank is surprisingly passable.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:53:42 No.53175112 Report

Quoted By: >>53175124 >>53175156 >>53175262

Have chaosfags stopped crying about combibolters now?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:54:53 No.53175124 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175112
Nurgle terminators are going to be huge

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:55:58 No.53175138 Report

Quoted By:

> tfw when Eldar gets revealed last, is super OP
> battletomes do nothing
It'll be glorious!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:56:11 No.53175140 Report

Quoted By: >>53175423

>>53173543
Well get your body unready, buddy. Because they have taken shooting from inside a vehicle away.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:57:48 No.53175156 Report

Quoted By: >>53175216

>>53175112
>crying

Who was crying? It's better in every way now from the twin-linked changes

Unless you mean the thought that it might be a combi-weapon and have a -1 BS to get the full effect, but honestly 4 shots at close range might just be worth it anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 03:58:28 No.53175171 Report

Quoted By: >>53175459

>>53173565

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:02:24 No.53175216 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175156
I think the complaint was that combi-bolters will still be less versatile as a combi-weapon. Not sure, it was a strange complaint and Chaosfags have been crying for so long it's hard to pay attention to what they're saying.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:06:35 No.53175262 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175112
Combi bolters were already better tho?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:06:48 No.53175265 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174016
0/10, apply yourself.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:13:20 No.53175317 Report

Quoted By: >>53175346 >>53175385 >>53175401

>>53171484
>>53172012
what is this secret club bullshit? why make people dig through 1d4ddit posts to get the info?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:13:24 No.53175318 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174611
If by "shit" you mean fairly priced points wise, we can only pray.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:14:16 No.53175325 Report

Quoted By: >>53175401 >>53175421

Are there any place to download 3d models of 40k weapons or other bitz? 8th edition has got me interested to start my orks again. It looks like 3d printers would be a good idea to help with scratch building/kitbashing.

It doesn't look like 3d printing is good enough for models but printing out a few heavy bolters or flamers would make things easier.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:15:03 No.53175333 Report

Quoted By: >>53175396

What would Thunder Warriors with butchers nails be like?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:15:59 No.53175344 Report

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>>53175020
I would be so happy if eldar were trash tier, nothing can make up for MULTIPLE editions of cheese.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:16:13 No.53175346 Report

Quoted By: >>53175511

>>53175317
Because it is well known geedubs trawls sites like this to find easy info that they can crack down on. When it's obfuscated like that it goes in the too hard basket for them.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:18:02 No.53175357 Report

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>>53174720
best answer to that is to make an entire counts-as army based on forgeworld models

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:20:30 No.53175385 Report

Quoted By: >>53175511

>>53175317

I specifically want to make you search because I had to.
Also keeps retards from abusing the service.
And the main one is slow as all hell and gives shit customer service already so I don't want to give him any more business.
People say it keeps them from getting sued- I think that's bullshit, it's hard for a British company to sue anyone in China, the Chinese hate brits.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:21:22 No.53175393 Report

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>>53174858
Not that i dont mind some waifu shit once in awhile

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:21:33 No.53175396 Report

Quoted By: >>53175412

>>53175333
Extremely crappy warriors. The Thunder Warriors were already inferior, the World Eaters with the nails became extremely reckless and unstable in battle. Giving them to the already unstable superhumans is a bad idea.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:22:19 No.53175401 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175325
>>53175317

Ah looks like my question got partially answered while i was typing the question. Ill probably work on improving my blendr skills while im at it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:23:01 No.53175412 Report

Quoted By: >>53175490

>>53175396
Last I checked Thunder Warriors were far superior to Astartes, they were just horribly unstable.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:23:08 No.53175415 Report

Quoted By: >>53175494

>>53174895

If that didn't come with a bit, I'd say you were way overpaying, but I might say that anyway. I get mine for ~$10 per 200 magnets, and info felt like waiting a month, I could get them for under $2 from china. This is on ebay, mind you.

Also, below reminded me: I usually use the back of my exact I knife to press it into place because it's hard and flat. However, I get the polarity right by using the magnetized torso to set the arm magnet.

For your first model, drill a hole in the torso and set your magnet. The polarity doesn't matter. Then, put another magnet on that magnet, drill a hole in your arm piece, and set the magnet into place using the torso (I use my knife end to make sure the magnet is flush). Now, you shouldn't ever have to worry about polarity. Doing a torso? Use an arm. Doing an arm? Use a torso. I did a whole skew of Calth Marines this way, too, and it was wonderful. Everything Pic related is magnetized.

>>53175008

You're not wrong, though assembly is worse. My raider made me bleed. The worst is removing sprue chunks because of how small everything is, but mold lines are arguably worse because they have a tendency to run straight through all the spikes.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:23:36 No.53175421 Report

Quoted By: >>53175482 >>53175520 >>53175523 >>53175740

>>53175325
Nah even for weapons, 3d printing is shit. It has a looking way to go before it's usable.

That said, the day that an affordable home 3d printer that makes good models is released, geedubs is going to seriously have to think about their business model. Heck even once a good enough printer is cheap enough for a club/friend group to split costs will be the doom of their current business model.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:23:41 No.53175423 Report

Quoted By: >>53175496

>>53175140
>[Citation Needed]

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:27:44 No.53175459 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175171
>.
I assume you sold your good camera to buy all those models ?

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:29:44 No.53175479 Report

Quoted By: >>53175510 >>53175529

>>53173565
workin on boyz pls no bully these are my first minis

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:29:55 No.53175482 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175421
I would imagine they'll just sell the IP at that point.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:30:21 No.53175490 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175412
That's only in a single BL novel. The same novel in which a single, somewhat slower custodes (due to ork spores overwhelming his immume system ... right) gets BTFO by a naked, unarmed World Eater.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:30:27 No.53175494 Report

Quoted By: >>53175588

>>53175415
I pay dollarydoos, there's no avoiding over paying.
It may be worth looking into China via ebay in future, but I do like to buy locally. I wouldn't even have bought from them if I could find an actual local store, but best I could do was 1 magnet left at $1.50.

As for setting them in place, I assume that's just an easy way to make sure you don't fuck up the polarity? I'll keep it in mind, cheers.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:30:57 No.53175496 Report

Quoted By: >>53175527 >>53175551

>>53175423
Read through the fucking WH community posts. Don't expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter when you aren't keeping up.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:32:20 No.53175510 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175479
I like them. Who say otherwise is a runty git

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:32:38 No.53175511 Report

Quoted By: >>53176096

>>53175346
>get C&D
>ignore it
>change name/email
>repeat
Autistic as fuck is the 40k community. I'm surprised that players don't demand to dunk your models in Simple Green and chemtest the resin of your models for authenticity.

>>53175385
Okay that's understandable.
The two I found charge so much for shipping it's better to give Goy's Forgeworldshop the money direct. Pray4goodmolds.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:33:38 No.53175520 Report

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>>53175421
I imagine when a 3d printer becomes good enough they'll start making their models that way, and before long (hopefully) lower their prices to entice people to use their legit ones still.
They'll then probably focus on paint/books/IP licensing.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:33:47 No.53175523 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175421
I see. Not even for something like Ork Torsos? I got a few boxes of boyz way back in 4th when they were 16 to a box. So my bitz box is swimming with extra arms, heads and weapons. I was thinking that torsos, since any detail they have is obscured by the arms and head would look alright at a distance especially when intermixed with a unit of bona-fide troops.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:34:21 No.53175527 Report

Quoted By: >>53175540

>>53175496
None of the community posts have said infantry cannot fire out of transports anymore. The only one to even mention transports as far as I'm aware is the IG overview and even that just implies that vets can leave their transport and do more than fire once and then die.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:34:28 No.53175529 Report

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>>53175479
After some practice you'll get your wash technique down and the shading will fit a little better. That's the main critique. I'd just google come color combinations that fit the shade you want and experiment with them. It's a pretty good start, I'm sure you've seen some "my first space sergeant" that look like a melted popsicle that was one vaguely human-shaped.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:34:49 No.53175532 Report

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>>53173627
there's, 3? I think vanquisher turrets, the normal one, a gryphonne IV one, and a ryza one

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:35:25 No.53175540 Report

Quoted By: >>53175590

>>53175527
Units inside of vehicles count as not being on the table, same as IC and psykers

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:36:14 No.53175551 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175496
You should probably read the community posts if you don't even know what's in them.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:38:04 No.53175565 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174409
Webbing gets in the way of the quartermaster stripping your mangled corpse after the battle is over, trooper.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:41:09 No.53175588 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175494

Ah, well shit then. China might be the best option, but I get wanting to buy locally.

As for the setting, yea. Everyone always seems to have a horror story about how they fucked up the polarity of the magnets, but I've yet to have a single fuck up because of polarity. The only time I had to dig out magnets was because I drilled too shallow/deep and had to fix it.

If I ever had to set a weird magnet that needed an extension, I just used more magnets to make sure the polarity is right, use my knife to separate the end magnet, and then I press it in that way, or at least enough so I can apply real pressure.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:41:28 No.53175590 Report

Quoted By: >>53175596 >>53175597

>>53175540
What does it say this? I can't find a single community post that has talked about how transports work.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:42:36 No.53175596 Report

Quoted By: >>53175690

>>53175590

Because there isn't one and he's talking out his ass based on a faeit/nafka rumors.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:42:46 No.53175597 Report

Quoted By: >>53175603

>>53175590

People are just making assumptions based on how they work in age of smeg.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:43:26 No.53175603 Report

Quoted By: >>53175625 >>53175677 >>53175714

>>53175597
Just like how multiple wounds work exactly the same in 8th as they do in AoS?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:45:16 No.53175625 Report

Quoted By: >>53175638 >>53175677

>>53175603
Just like how Strength vs Toughness works the same was as it does in AoS?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:45:36 No.53175628 Report

Quoted By:

Are there any bitz makers that make horns that will fit on MKIII helmets?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:46:02 No.53175634 Report

Quoted By: >>53175721

Goodnight, /40kg/. Here's something to watch that I find helps me relax. I hope you will enjoy it too, and maybe even find inspiration from it.

https://youtu.be/oh5p5f5_-7A

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:46:17 No.53175638 Report

Quoted By: >>53175677

>>53175625

Don't forget moral works exactly the same too!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:49:29 No.53175665 Report

Quoted By: >>53175666

>>53173932
>GW drones trying to defend this shit
This place was better before gw infiltrated our lines

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:49:57 No.53175666 Report

Quoted By: >>53175734

>>53175665
So it was always like this?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:50:31 No.53175676 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174032
Skitarii

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:50:39 No.53175677 Report

Quoted By: >>53175689 >>53175693

>>53175603
>>53175625
>>53175638
So it's assumptions and not actual released info?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:52:24 No.53175689 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175677
Pretty much.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:52:26 No.53175690 Report

Quoted By: >>53175704 >>53175706 >>53175709 >>53175779

>>53175596
I read it on a FAQs page linked on facebook
You can't do anything with anyone while inside of a transport, you're forced to disembark.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:52:34 No.53175691 Report

Quoted By: >>53175803 >>53176080 >>53177115

For some reason I made a shoddy space marine in ms paint. Anyone want to put meme text on it?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:52:37 No.53175693 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175677

Exactly. He's talking out his ass and will get btfo when you can still fire from vehicles.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:53:20 No.53175704 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175690
>i-it totally h-happened!

Yet you have no proof.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:53:39 No.53175706 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175690
What FAQ page. Put up or shut up.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:53:56 No.53175709 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175690
If you're so sure you've seen it why not link it?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:53:58 No.53175710 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174093
>This kills Guilliman
>This kills the riptides
>This kills the wraithknights
>This kills the knights
>This kills literally any non mass infantry unit>>53174100

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:54:31 No.53175714 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175603

Didn't say it wasn't likely, but we have no information as of yet.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:54:46 No.53175720 Report

Quoted By: >>53175773 >>53175788 >>53178467

> Interested in getting into 40k
> Waiting for 8th to drop and judging armies by lore/looks
> Each army has a unit that I hate but I am pretty sure they are critical

Can you get by with a Grey Knight army lacking DreadKnights?

I cant ever look at one without thinking of pic related.

Should probably just forget about it and wait to hear how things are after 8th.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:54:58 No.53175721 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175634
>doesn't thin his paints

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:55:37 No.53175730 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174093
>Fliers aren't a thing
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:56:07 No.53175734 Report

Quoted By: >>53175746 >>53175779

>>53175666
It was better Satan, way better, you wouldn't understand the old golden age.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:56:40 No.53175740 Report

Quoted By: >>53175791 >>53175986

>>53175421
Don't know what you're talking about m80, I can 3d print just fine with a SLA printer.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:57:15 No.53175746 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175734
Was everyone you didn't like a shill back then too?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:57:51 No.53175756 Report

Quoted By:

>>53174162
Those points are better spent on HWT with lascanons or heavy bolters

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 04:59:51 No.53175773 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175720
You sure can, but it's a lot more unforgiving to play.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:00:24 No.53175779 Report

Quoted By: >>53175964

>>53175690
Nope, not mentioned in anything released by GW. It was mentioned in rumors, but nothing official.
>>53175734
I don't remember people needing a boogeyman to yell at when someone disagreed with them. That shit skyrocketed when people decided that everyone on /tg/ shares their opinions and dissenters are from reddit and just trying to fuck things up.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:01:33 No.53175788 Report

Quoted By: >>53175838 >>53176931

>>53175720
>Aquire Dreadknight
>learn to greenstuff
>make something like pic related
On a related note, would a Dreadknights sword fit for a Contemptor Dreadnought? As in, could you put it into his hand and make it look okay, or would it be too big?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:01:44 No.53175791 Report

Quoted By: >>53175869

>>53175740
Hey that's pretty good. how'd you scan it?

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:02:39 No.53175803 Report

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>>53175691

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:04:49 No.53175838 Report

Quoted By: >>53175875

>>53175788

I honestly wouldn't even bother putting that much effort in.

GW stuff is already a bit overpriced, when you have to work that hard to make it even look passable you should just call it a write off and get one of these (but paint it better).

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:05:35 No.53175844 Report

Quoted By: >>53175859 >>53175861

newb here, what is the benefit of having two sets of identical melee weapons? Like for instance the swarmlord has two pairs of swords. Does he get an extra attack? Anything else?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:06:38 No.53175859 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175844
There usually isn't a benefit outside of the extra attack from two melee weapons.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:06:48 No.53175861 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175844
Under the current rules, yes they generally get an extra attack. But there's new rules coming out in a month and nobody knows exactly how it will work.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:07:11 No.53175869 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175791
I didn't, some bugger made .STL files and put them up on thingiverse, they got taken down but I've posted a mega link here before so you should find it in the archives.
Keep in mind it's all of a dunecrawler except the guns.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:07:15 No.53175870 Report

Quoted By: >>53176041 >>53176880

How is Miranda Irene

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:07:40 No.53175875 Report

Quoted By: >>53175902

>>53175838
Well, you'd have to if you play at a GW and don't want to play the derpy looking dreadknight, third party wouldn't be allowed. In your LGS it would be okay, but not everyone has that option.
Also, nothing better than a really good conversion, they're your dudes after all.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:09:41 No.53175902 Report

Quoted By: >>53175921 >>53175981 >>53176043 >>53176354

>>53175875

> Playing in a GW.

There's your problem.

That conversion looks pretty bad though? It's a bit of a mess and the concept itself isn't great.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:10:06 No.53175907 Report

Quoted By: >>53175929

which imperial guard regiment has the purest girls?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:10:55 No.53175921 Report

Quoted By: >>53175935 >>53175943 >>53175981 >>53176188 >>53176387

>>53175902
Why is everyone so against playing in a GW?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:11:33 No.53175929 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175907
Krieg, is there even any question?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:12:35 No.53175935 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175921
Cause no 3rd party anything for the most part.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:12:57 No.53175943 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175921

Kek, it's better than nothing if it's all you have but I find the people who go there are WAAC faggots and I can't stand the cunts who work there, although there are exceptions.

If there's a few of you why not start a club at one of your houses?

Also as you say GW won't let you use alternative models.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:13:10 No.53175945 Report

Quoted By: >>53175990

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:14:20 No.53175960 Report

Quoted By: >>53175982 >>53176001 >>53176021

if the ecclesiarchy and the inquisition ever butt heads who would the adeptus sororitas side with?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:14:51 No.53175964 Report

Quoted By: >>53175980 >>53175996 >>53175998 >>53176014

>>53175779
I'm salty about battle cannon leman russes, people believe GW will sort it out, but I have been way too long on this rides to trust GW at this heights and deep down I know this is it, now leman russes are weird strength eight heavy d6 machine guns.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:15:24 No.53175967 Report

Quoted By: >>53176093 >>53176212

Are you guys putting together a new army for 8e? I'm doing nids, primarily with large monsters as opposed to swarms of little ones. So far I've got:

1x Swarmlord
1x Trygon (prime)
1x Toxicrene
1x Carnifex
3x Warriors
3x Zoanthropes (/neurothrope)
10x Gargoyles
12x Hormagaunts

How about you guys?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:16:21 No.53175980 Report

Quoted By: >>53175996

>>53175964

A lucky roll can do quite a bit of damage to some vehicles.

6 hits each causing D3 damage with -2AP will spoil someone's day.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:16:41 No.53175981 Report

Quoted By: >>53176387

>>53175902
Well, my LGS is a lot closer than the next GW, so that is that anyway. But again, not everyone has that option.

>>53175921
I'm not against it, but the one time I was at a GW I picked up some colours and a Rhino. Bought some Harlequins too, but when I came to his desk with the Rhino he gave me this weird look, like "Ugh, Space Marines...".
Meanwhile, I never had something like this happen at my LGS. It's not really a problem, but it's a bad, weird feeling if you'd go into a store to play a game, and you know the store owner is just rolling his eyes behind your back.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:16:44 No.53175982 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175960
The emperor.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:16:57 No.53175986 Report

Quoted By: >>53176258

>>53175740
>SLA printer

So $500 minimum?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:17:23 No.53175990 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175945
Saved

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:17:53 No.53175996 Report

Quoted By: >>53176062 >>53176063

>>53175964
I'm hoping they have a special rule that actually makes them better but I'm not confident until I see the actual rules.

>>53175980
6 shots that hit on 4+. Even if you hit several shots you may still end up doing only 3 damage, if you hit two shots you may end up doing 6 damage. It's just way too much RNG for me.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:18:10 No.53175998 Report

Quoted By: >>53176049

>>53175964

D6 str 8 shots doing d3 wounds each is considered bad?

It's basically a SOB Exorcist with extra weapons now. The SOB Exorcist is generally considered fantastic.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:18:15 No.53176001 Report

Quoted By: >>53176037

>>53175960
Ecclesiarchy. Who better knows the will of the Emperor than the ecclesiarch who casually gropes the butt of his Sister of Secretarywork?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:19:35 No.53176014 Report

Quoted By: >>53176193

>>53175964
But anon, you don't actually know better than everyone. You're just guessing, that's not the same as knowing no matter how much you believe it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:20:40 No.53176021 Report

Quoted By: >>53176079 >>53176594

>>53175960

Depends on the situation.

The SOB are not really 'Blind faith' sorts despite the religious focus. Not after the Age of Apostasy. The SOB novels have pretty consistently shown they are fully aware of the flaws of the Ecclessiarchy and it's priests.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:21:49 No.53176037 Report

Quoted By: >>53176099

>>53176001

>Who better knows the will of the Emperor than the ecclesiarch who casually gropes the butt of his Sister of Secretarywork?

The last one who did that got beheaded.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:22:16 No.53176041 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175870

Personally, she's the best I've used so far, though I have a feeling Alpharius is better. MI is really easy to order from and has a huge selection I just wish she had new-style Volkite and combi weapons. However, I didn't order anything particularly big from her(him?), so I can't comment there.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:22:34 No.53176043 Report

Quoted By: >>53176063

>>53175902
Aren't these things like $130

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:23:09 No.53176049 Report

Quoted By: >>53176088

>>53175998
Except the exorcist hits on 3s, is AP1 and does D6 shots in an edition where vehicles generally only have 3 hp. Battle Cannons are hitting on 4+ doing D6 shots with a -2 save mod in an edition where tanks will probably average 12 wounds. Granted they're doing D3 damage but doing good damage requires you to roll well something like 4 times and for your opponent to roll poorly on their saves.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:23:25 No.53176054 Report

Quoted By: >>53176105

>>53174788
>>53174858
If Victoria can do it, GW can too.
There really doesn't need to be a big difference between male and female guard. Just make them small differences, things you need to pick up the model to notice. They would just be like any other small detail on a miniature that you don't notice from a distance.

Besides, I've seen a mixed regiment of pic related, the differences are still pretty clear even from across a table.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:23:33 No.53176055 Report

Quoted By: >>53176078 >>53176098

Man, I am not entirely convinved by 8th edition yet, but why is it so entertaining to read people's comment rampages about how everything is bad and shit and everybody should feel bad for even holding judgement untill release ? It gets specially fun when game mechanics they were praising not too long ago get re-introduced and are suddenly the reason 40k is 'dieing'. Like the 7th edition psycic system now suddenly being the pinnacle of game design, whilst it was inferior to the 2D6 leadership test system before the rumours started.

Shame Whineseer died, because the crying and wailing on there was always top notch.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:24:21 No.53176062 Report

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>>53175996
I envy you anon, I don't hold any hope for this edition, just dreadful expectations, people believe this will save 40k, they're wrong, it will only spawn a different waacfaggotry, shooting will remain king of the hill, eldars will be safeguarded by Kelly and everything will focus on marines Vs chaos, we AoS now.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:24:22 No.53176063 Report

Quoted By: >>53176104

>>53175996

Well, if you take them with 3 heavy bolters that's 15 shots.

The battlecannon was always a weird weapon. A MBT that exclusively fired an anti-infantry shell. If it was up to me I would scrap the vanquisher and just give it a choice between a SABOT round or a high explosive shell.

>>53176043

That's the 15mm version, it's still about 60 Doru though.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:25:14 No.53176078 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176055
Most of the people bitching about 8e only started during 6 and 7

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:25:19 No.53176079 Report

Quoted By: >>53176111 >>53176114

>>53176021
if its a he-says she-says kind of thing?

inquisition says ecclesiarchy is bad, ecclisiarchy says inquisition is bad.

The adeptus sororitas is part of the ecclesiarchy, but they're also one of the militant branches of the inquisition so... who are they closer too? I guess is the real question.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:25:47 No.53176080 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175691
I tried.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:26:20 No.53176088 Report

Quoted By: >>53176143 >>53176151

>>53176049

>Granted they're doing D3 damage but doing good damage requires you to roll well something like 4 times and for your opponent to roll poorly on their saves.

-2 on the saves gives a pretty good chance of it.

I'm not expecting a battle cannon to put other tanks in the dirt in a single turn but that was never really it's purpose. It's good against basically everything (If not specialised against any one of them)

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:26:33 No.53176093 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175967
I really want to do nids if huge swarms is viable in anyway, if not I'll just buy as many basalisks as I can fit on a table and play that.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:26:40 No.53176096 Report

Quoted By: >>53176127

>>53175511
Advantage to Forgeworld: they have great customer service.

>Ordered 5 Renegade Ogryns
>2 arrived with broken arms and bad casts
>We got this m8, here have 2 free ones and you can keep the broke ones

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:26:46 No.53176098 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176055
Most of us are pretty happy with the changes. Some are shit though like the new battle cannon and random charge ranges.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:26:47 No.53176099 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176037
Yeah, after the Custodes told them that the guy they follow is really not doing the Emperors work. Remember anon, most Sisters are not for battle. Most are glorified secretaries and housemaids.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:27:29 No.53176104 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176063
>That's the 15mm version, it's still about 60 Doru though.
Oh, cool. I'd pick one up but honestly the Leviathan looks a little odd.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:27:32 No.53176105 Report

Quoted By: >>53176138 >>53177370

>>53176054
$50 dollars for 10? Yeah, nah. Does anybody else sell any knock-off Guardsmen in the 40k scale for cheaper than what GW wants for theirs?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:28:03 No.53176111 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176079

In such a situation I imagine they'd try to keep the peace and prevent either from killing the other until a proper investigation can happen.

Mind you, this is assuming two people of equal pull. As the average priest isn't exactly on par with the average inquisitor.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:28:13 No.53176114 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176079
That's not really how the inquisition works though. More likely "an inquisitor is investigating part of the Ecclisiarchy", in which case the Sisters would likely go along with the inquisitor.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:28:55 No.53176122 Report

Quoted By: >>53176132 >>53176137

Be honest with yourselves. Does this really look like a loyalist to you?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:29:42 No.53176127 Report

Quoted By: >>53176936

>>53176096
After that it must be pretty tempting to bust a few models so you can get free shit.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:29:52 No.53176132 Report

Quoted By: >>53176185

>>53176122
At least more so than your average Space Wolves marine.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:30:06 No.53176137 Report

Quoted By: >>53176144 >>53176323 >>53177393

>>53176122
Even their primarch was in on it.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:30:07 No.53176138 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176105
Anvil Industries has a lot of options for Guardsmen, a squad of 10 for ~30 Pounds.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:31:08 No.53176143 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176088
The -2 doesn't help it that much. You're only doing about 2 wounds a turn, I don't want it to one shot other vehicles but as it is it's not really good against anything. Seems like you'd be better off taking a more specialized variant over the battle cannon.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:31:14 No.53176144 Report

Quoted By: >>53176198

>>53176137
He's like a Chaos Knight, just like how the dude I posted looks like you could mostly kitbash him from CSM parts.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:32:11 No.53176151 Report

Quoted By: >>53176202 >>53176231

>>53176088
It's really RNG heavy. 0-18 wounds is a massive spread for the gun even if's heavily weighted towards the low end.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:32:41 No.53176157 Report

Quoted By: >>53176164 >>53176177 >>53176302

Holy fuck are sentinels actually going to be good again

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:33:40 No.53176164 Report

Quoted By: >>53176177

>>53176157
Lolno.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:33:54 No.53176166 Report

Quoted By: >>53176216 >>53176249 >>53176373 >>53176445 >>53176726

>>53173565
Getting all my shit ready for a competition saturday

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:34:14 No.53176171 Report

Quoted By: >>53176199

Bets on next Faction Focus? We've gotten CSM and Guard, so I'm going to guess a Xenos is next. Eldar, perhaps, as the debatably most iconic xenos?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:34:46 No.53176177 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176157
>>53176164
could always make it good the old fashioned way and just give it silly numbers that it doesn't deserve.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:35:32 No.53176185 Report

Quoted By: >>53176323

>>53176132
>literally looks like a CSM in a hooded robe
vs.
>loyalist Marine with runes and wolf icons
Sure, okay.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:36:02 No.53176188 Report

Quoted By: >>53176387

>>53175921
All the ones in my area are badly placed, away from transports or in places they don't belong in. One is literally in a the middle of a bus/tramway deadspot; The other is in the party/nightlife quarter of town, so every bar around is overpriced drinks and crappy by day or overcrowded by night.
On top of that add a staff that is either just as good as LGSs or as bas as you'd expect corporate shop keepers to be. Also the usual: They just sell Gdubs, they only accept Gdubs. They also act like you've got no choice but to go there to play and make no effort to keep their clientele.

Against that your LGSs have to compete against each other, pushing them to offer better service, staff prices, you name it. Basically when you step in a LGS you know what to expect. When you step in a dubs you have no idea. And if somehow your LGS sucks and is still somehow in business, you can just go next door. (Although usually they suck because they are the only ones around).
The only Gdubs thing versus everything allowed thing is moot because you have to see the MTG blobs every time you step in the LGS

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:36:47 No.53176193 Report

Quoted By: >>53176247 >>53176307

>>53176014
I know GW well enough, they did the same to fantasy, they bloated the game and then kill it, 40k is going AoS 2.0, they changed less to prevent AoS initial failure, but it's AoS nonetheless, was it necessary to remove initiative? Strike first when charging would have been enough, ws as a static value? Why? Now it doesn't matter how good your character is skilled, he'll be hit as easily as anyone else, wound anything on 6+? That was shit back in fantasy, basic firearms can penetrate a heavy tank hill now, this edition won't change shit, it'll only force you to get new miniatures for the new meta.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:37:12 No.53176198 Report

Quoted By: >>53176238 >>53176243

>>53176144
>kitbashing
Archaon himself looks less Chaos than that.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:37:14 No.53176199 Report

Quoted By: >>53176270

>>53176171
eldar is likely to keep the elite>horde>elite pattern going. Otherwise I'd probably say Orks.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:37:31 No.53176202 Report

Quoted By: >>53176214

>>53176151
The balance justification is for it not being say 3+D3 shots and 2 wounds is that you CAN technically do 18 wounds. Even though the chances of that are 999999/1. It's bullshit, I bet Eldar and Tau won't have this level of RNG because

>Their technology is so advanced stupid Mon keigh/gue la :^)

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:38:13 No.53176210 Report

Quoted By: >>53176228

Hey dudes, for my CSM Kill Team, I'm planning on using mk 4 armor cuz it's sexy and chaos Marines are ugly and dated.

What are your thoughts on having some marines in mk 3 and some in mk 4? It's a 4 man I'll team, so I was maybe thinking 2 of each.

Thanks!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:38:22 No.53176212 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175967
I'm waiting for the release to buy anything new, but I'm really hoping for nids to be playable this edition, especially since they announced the 6+ to wound on everything. Although I play swarm with a few wrecker balls in the middle.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:38:29 No.53176214 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176202

>It's bullshit, I bet Eldar and Tau won't have this level of RNG because

I'm pretty sure they will.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:38:44 No.53176216 Report

Quoted By: >>53176221 >>53176222 >>53176356

>>53176166
>competition

You're literally everything GW hates

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:39:18 No.53176221 Report

Quoted By: >>53176248

>>53176216
>matched play

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:39:37 No.53176222 Report

Quoted By: >>53176248

>>53176216
Its a modelling/painting competition, not a tournament

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:40:06 No.53176228 Report

Quoted By: >>53176252 >>53176452

>>53176210
Don't CSM mix and match any type of armour they can get hold of anyway, what with the whole "Don't have forgeworlds, have to get by on what we can loot"-thing?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:40:13 No.53176231 Report

Quoted By: >>53176255

>>53176151
The more I've thought on it, the more I think it works out. With old style blasts, you pretty much had a 1 in 3 chance of it actually hitting where you wanted. Translated to now, the ideal is 5-6 shots.

Granted, I only think that's really a big improvement if it's also BS 4, but in such cases you could expect those 3-4 hits to turn into a similar number of wounds or more depending on the target. Dealing 3-4 wounds on a proper shot isn't bad and isn't too unlikely either.

Rolling the average on the d6 and getting a 3 or a 4 is closer to the blast scattering and only catching one or two models.

It feels like the odds overall have increased for everything except shooting at tightly packed squads or really big blobs. The problem is that a couple low rolls at key points will screw you over.

Ideally, the Leman Russ having some sort of rule that gives it better accuracy, even if it's only when above half health, will do wonders for making this more consistent

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:40:47 No.53176238 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176198

THICC

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:41:41 No.53176243 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176198
He's the ever chosen, he doesn't have to prove shit to no one, he gets the big four full support.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:42:01 No.53176247 Report

Quoted By: >>53176266 >>53176414

>>53176193
Wait, do you think they are or aren't going to kill 40k?

With most melee being charging and withdrawing, hitting first on charge largely renders I unncessary bookkeeping.

WS static means that higher WS actually make a difference. It used to be that anything beyond middling was a waste, as it was compared mostly to the WS2 of most units.

Wounding on a 6+ is fine given that armor saves are actually important now and the tank will have double-digit wounds. People have run the math, basic firearms will require absolutely ludicrous numbers of shots to down a tank.

Stop whining, we're fine.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:42:03 No.53176248 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176221
Look at the difference in the pictures.

>Open play features a bunch of adults hanging out having a good time at their local store

>Narrative play is a cool movie style shout of a game

>Matched play is literally two uncomfortable looking children with a blank background

>>53176222

That's fine. Good trips for you then.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:42:07 No.53176249 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176166
Competition with Ork
You are a brave man anon

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:42:28 No.53176252 Report

Quoted By: >>53176412

>>53176228
That's a good point. I was mostly asking from an aesthetics point.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:42:56 No.53176255 Report

Quoted By: >>53176276 >>53176299

>>53176231

>Ideally, the Leman Russ having some sort of rule that gives it better accuracy, even if it's only when above half health

In Age of Sigmar weapons like trebuchets have 'Hard to miss' where they auto-hit units above a certain size.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:43:03 No.53176258 Report

Quoted By: >>53176621

>>53175986
$500... more like $5000

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:43:47 No.53176266 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176247
I think he doesn't want to be fine anon ... Why else would he be here if he hates GW that much ?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:44:05 No.53176270 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176199
Ah, didn't catch the potential horde/elite alternation, I was going off of Chaos->Imperium->Xenos.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:44:39 No.53176276 Report

Quoted By: >>53176295

>>53176255
That would only help it hit large model count units, but it's profile seems to lean more towards killing multi-wound models.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:46:39 No.53176295 Report

Quoted By: >>53176338 >>53176353

>>53176276
No? It would still help against killing big things. If you roll 6 shots, and they automatically hit if you're at full health or whatever, then half of those wound against a thing with 8 toughness, your target is taking 3d3 damage, and likely has a 5+ save at best. That'd be 4 wounds off a Russ easily, and more off a Dread.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:46:52 No.53176299 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176255

Oh yeah I forgot about that, crisis averted. Autoing 6 hits with D3 wounds will be pretty good. MEQ will get a 5+.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:47:36 No.53176302 Report

Quoted By: >>53176319

>>53176157
They already are good. They are MVP for me every game. I run both armored and scout.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:47:58 No.53176307 Report

Quoted By: >>53176340

>>53176193
The old WS was dumb and flat to hit isn't any worse.

Not saying there aren't better ways to do it, but it's a neutral change at worst.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:48:13 No.53176309 Report

Quoted By:

Oh hey guys, I just woke up and Leman Russes are Lootas.

Anyone else pissed about this?
Because I really needed random numbers of shots to go on top of my BS3.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:48:57 No.53176319 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176302
wat
who do you play against, orks?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:49:36 No.53176323 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176185
>ShareWolf is THIS DELUSIONAL

>>53176137
This image is fake, DA armor wasn't even green until post-Heresy.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:49:49 No.53176326 Report

Quoted By: >>53176331 >>53176347 >>53176351 >>53176516 >>53177298 >>53179359

What the hell is this ?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:50:28 No.53176331 Report

Quoted By: >>53176339

>>53176326
Space Marine Heroes

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:08 No.53176338 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176295

>and they automatically hit if you're at full health or whatever

Nah, it would be model count not wounds.

The rules for Hard to Miss makes it autohit units of 6 or more models.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:08 No.53176339 Report

Quoted By: >>53176348 >>53176374

>>53176331
Care to add some details ?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:12 No.53176340 Report

Quoted By: >>53176352 >>53176378 >>53176402

>>53176307

I don't understand why they didn't use the same S to T chart they're using if they were worried about bamboozling Timmy's noggin.

ie. WS half opponents you hit on 6, lower it's 5+, same it's 4+, your WS higher than opponents 3+ and if yours is double opponents it's 2+.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:51 No.53176346 Report

Quoted By: >>53176366

Can someone please explain how lemans are bad now

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:51 No.53176347 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176326
>12 heroes to collect!

Gotta catch em all!

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:51:55 No.53176348 Report

Quoted By: >>53176377

>>53176339

I'd say it looks Japanese

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:52:14 No.53176351 Report

Quoted By: >>53176369

>>53176326

Jap exclusive set.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:52:15 No.53176352 Report

Quoted By: >>53176372

>>53176340

What's the point of using it though?

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:52:18 No.53176353 Report

Quoted By: >>53176379

>>53176295
I'm saying it wouldn't help you auto hit vehicles that often, and really I don't see them giving a battle cannon a auto-hit rule. Rolling 6 shots would have a reasonable chance of one shotting vehicles and they seem to at least be trying to avoid that possibility.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:52:23 No.53176354 Report

Quoted By:

>>53175902

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:52:29 No.53176356 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176216
>Open play have a picture of armies fully painted and following their armies structure without allies and several units with different purposes
>That scenography that blocks los to make players think about their deployment and how to move their units
>Open play
>They imperial player only have a single squad of marines and some guardsmen
>Neither have HQ units and barely minimum scenography
>Matched
I don't want to sound like that guy but that's fucked up

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:53:10 No.53176366 Report

Quoted By: >>53176405

>>53176346
Just compare everything we know about them in 8th to how they are now and you'll see it's nothing but straight nerfs.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:53:18 No.53176369 Report

Quoted By: >>53176382

>>53176351
Jap into 40k as well ? That's new.

Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:53:44 No.53176372 Report

Quoted By: >>53176392

>>53176352

Because it's simplifies it sufficiently, as it stands it's too simplified.

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Anonymous Thu 11 May 2017 05:53:48 No.53176373 Report

Quoted By:

>>53176166
>the jet is being held up by a giant crane from a battlewagon
It's beautiful, could be something right outta deff skwadren

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