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>>55679064
I got the Calth box on the cheap and built them all with lightning claws because they look sick. Did I fuck up or are they good with Icon of Wrath? Are they better with a Lord for re roll 1s or a Sorcerer for Warptime and Prescience?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:40:29 No.55679172 Report

Quoted By: >>55679187 >>55679196

So I took your advice /tg/, and asked my guard friend to tone down his army, but it didn't go well.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:42:27 No.55679187 Report

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>>55679172
Please don't elaborate.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:42:46 No.55679192 Report

Quoted By: >>55679225 >>55679226 >>55679278

Do Blight-Hauler cover fields stack for the purposes of determining if a unit's inside them?

Like, if I take three gross karts and space them out, stick a unit in the middle, that unit is entirely within 7" of all three, even if they're not entirely within 7" of just one.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:42:58 No.55679196 Report

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>>55679172
He's a WAAC autist. I knew it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:44:05 No.55679202 Report

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>>55679048
Limited but useful kind of expensive but if you get lucky they do work generally speaking

Always take the assault cannon or Autocannon depending on your flavor.

Tartaros have done well for me this edition

havent tried assault terminators

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:45:01 No.55679212 Report

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>>55679048
storm shields on 2W models is god tier

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:45:37 No.55679221 Report

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>>55679165
claws rely on getting to charge after deep striking, which even with rerolls is unreliable without warptime

termies with guns do stuff even without the charge, and slaanesh termies with prescience and combiplas are heinous

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:45:44 No.55679222 Report

Quoted By: >>55679245 >>55679255 >>55679296 >>55679506

So here's my rough plan for my Guard army, using models I already have

>No vehicles
>Several infantry blobs
>Lots of HWTs with lascannons
>So many snipers. So many.
>A single squad of Rough Riders(using Winged Hussar models)

I won't seem like a WAAC autist will I? Will I get stomped instantly?

Will it be fun?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:45:56 No.55679225 Report

Quoted By: >>55679263

>>55679192
>Friendly DEATH GUARD INFANTRY units that are entirely within 7" of a Myphitic Blight-hauler...
>within 7" of A Myphitic Blight-hauler

Reads to me that you need to be entirely within the bubble of one particular hauler

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:45:59 No.55679226 Report

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>>55679192
You either have cover or you don't, and it's +1 to armor saves. You could be in ruins surrounded by Blight Haulers and you get +1 to your armor saves.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:46:03 No.55679227 Report

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>>55679062
still troops, even have to be their own detachment to get their new regiment bonus.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:47:06 No.55679233 Report

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>>55679226
That's not what he's asking.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:47:25 No.55679236 Report

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>>55679196
I think he is. he didn't like me suggesting ways to make his army less waacy.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:47:27 No.55679238 Report

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>>55679165
chaos terminators are shooty first, choppy second. give them combi-plasmas and the Mark of Slaanesh. Prescience them and give them endless cacophony.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:48:38 No.55679245 Report

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>>55679222
depending on what regiment you choose it "should" be fine in a casual game. Just don't burn your self out painting that many infantry.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:49:36 No.55679255 Report

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>>55679222
aren't Rough Riders squatted?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:50:19 No.55679260 Report

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>>55679245
Most of them are done already, thankfully. I'll probably go with Vostroyans, since I'm using historical Soviet and Finnish models.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:50:36 No.55679263 Report

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>>55679225

I can see both interpretations, the way it reads to me. Mostly I was just curious if other anons had a similar thought; I'm not about to try and insist on it in a game or anything. Was kind of surprised it wasn't addressed in the FAQ to be honest.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:52:19 No.55679278 Report

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>>55679192
I'd say the auras overlap for determining if a unit's in range

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:54:18 No.55679291 Report

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>>55679255
still rules and points in the index so they're fine.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:54:27 No.55679293 Report

Quoted By: >>55679300 >>55679311 >>55679323

Anyone have a good recipe for blued steel?

Have some plasma incinerators I'd like to try that on

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:54:49 No.55679296 Report

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>>55679222
>playing guard
>thinks he won't be ousted as a WAACfag
>especially with a new army

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:55:42 No.55679300 Report

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>>55679293
By this I mean the effect a barrel gets from high heat

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:56:20 No.55679304 Report

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>>55679221
Cocaine fueled plasma was the plan for squad 2, since Calth comes with three and the regular Chaos Termie box only comes with one if memory serves. The box was $100 at the LGS, it wasn't moving so they dropped the price by $50 and I couldn't resist. Can't put it in the Crimson Fists since their old tech was explicitly blown to hell, so it goes to the Word Bearers. I am aware Word Bearers suck dick.

Casting spells on Khorne units feels weird, but those guys are up shit creek if that charge fails.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:56:57 No.55679311 Report

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>>55679300
>>55679293
found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIKEfVoqC5U

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:57:33 No.55679316 Report

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>>55679300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIKEfVoqC5U

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:58:06 No.55679323 Report

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>>55679293
Like this?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:59:37 No.55679335 Report

Quoted By: >>55679357 >>55679373 >>55680258

Tau as a starter army for nooby? Models are badass. However I hear they might get a release in 2018 with auxiliaries? Any idea what those maybe? Or atleast atia said they're not part of the empire.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 05:59:51 No.55679337 Report

Quoted By: >>55680700

Is there any reason to run Inquisition as Guard allies?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:03:02 No.55679357 Report

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>Warhammer painting contest of the month has the theme psykers
>Mortarion model wins

Loving Every Laugh

>>55679335
Not a bad starting point.
New units may be aux, may be farsight. Who knows

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:03:23 No.55679361 Report

Quoted By: >>55679369 >>55679378 >>55679395 >>55682241

guard PDF when
are shotgun vets ever going to be relevant or should I just be boring and give then lasguns?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:03:36 No.55679366 Report

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>>55679323

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:04:11 No.55679369 Report

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>>55679361
It's not even out yet
Wait for the weekend

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:04:32 No.55679373 Report

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>>55679335
spam crisis commanders. skip on crisis squads

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:05:38 No.55679378 Report

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>>55679361
i like shot guns just because i have a huge hard on for shotguns irl

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:07:44 No.55679395 Report

Quoted By: >>55680894

>>55679361
The Imperial Guard are not part of a systems Planetary Defence Force.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:08:21 No.55679399 Report

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>>55679278

I'm inclined to agree but that seems super good with the tri-lobe giving them BS3+. You could smuggle a decent amount of doods in the middle of some adequate anti-tank and just push up the board shooting the whole way.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:10:20 No.55679419 Report

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>>55679399
well you are paying for 3 of them and the armor boost doesn't stack. probably not worth the points for 3 just to stack the aura range

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:12:26 No.55679433 Report

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>>55679419
I think 3 is really the only way to go, BS 4+ makes them pretty weak otherwise.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:13:46 No.55679451 Report

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>>55679162
Maybe? Normal marine backpacks work like jump packs in zero g though.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:16:09 No.55679466 Report

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>>55679049
3rd

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:19:31 No.55679496 Report

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>>55679366
T-thanks?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:21:08 No.55679505 Report

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>>55679323

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:21:32 No.55679506 Report

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>>55679222
>>Several infantry blobs
if your movement phases eat up half the time of a game it will get old pretty quick.

just something to consider

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:23:14 No.55679520 Report

Quoted By: >>55680265

>>55679506
I just did the count, I have 42 guys with rifles(lasguns) and 24 SMGs which will be either lasguns or shotguns, haven't decided yet. So, two or three big blobs, really.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:23:50 No.55679526 Report

Quoted By: >>55679535 >>55679595

I hereby submit my submission for the next general image

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:24:52 No.55679535 Report

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>>55679526
Still better than everyone making the buzz lightyear face

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:27:44 No.55679556 Report

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>>55679535

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:31:18 No.55679595 Report

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>>55679526
General images are for fags

t. Meme image master race

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:35:44 No.55679628 Report

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Haven't played a game since the start of 5th Ed. Just about finished my 500 point army of renegade/heretics using the gsc and Tyranid indexes. Plan on playing fun casual games. This is my list. I have no idea if I can even come close too winning a game with it or how can I use it so advice and feedback are appreciated

Magus

10x neophytes w/ shotguns. 2x flamers, cult icon and power mail

"

Pyrovore

"

Toxicrene

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:36:20 No.55679630 Report

Quoted By: >>55679642 >>55679649 >>55679661

So what faction is intended to be the king of shooting? I saw some mech players complaining guard took that title away from them.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:38:18 No.55679642 Report

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>>55679630
Tau are supposed to be.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:39:13 No.55679649 Report

Quoted By: >>55679691

>>55679630
I don't really think there's intended to just be one king of shooting, more just different types. AdMech with their weird and powerful guns, Guard with massed fire, Tau with their gunlines and advanced tech.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:41:59 No.55679661 Report

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>>55679630
Imperial Guard arty party, accept no substitutes.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:44:42 No.55679691 Report

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>>55679649
I'm not sure that describes Tau. Gunline is more guard isn't it?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:45:47 No.55679703 Report

Quoted By: >>55679752

Man, with vehicle construction rules pending in chapter approved, I am half tempted to resurrect the Stormhammer. Just explode everything around it, one hell of an anvil. Though the Shadowsword is tempting to just pick up, punch a hole right through an thing that stands in your way.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:46:24 No.55679705 Report

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>>55679691
"Gunline" just describes a largely static army that blows you off the board on turn 2-3. Tau are known for gunline because of their long range infantry weapons, tanks, and the Tidewall terrain deal. Guard can do it too, and Space Marines ran gunlines all through 6 and 7e IIRC, lots of Thunderfire cannons.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:48:16 No.55679722 Report

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>>55679378
Own any shotguns?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:48:56 No.55679729 Report

Quoted By: >>55679747 >>55679798

Do you guys think that the undivided legions will get primarchs? I want to run Alpharius in 40k

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:51:06 No.55679743 Report

Quoted By: >>55680006

>>55679691
I really can't come up with a better way to describe Tau and it seemed appropriate with their whole thing seeming to be their ability to support each other with overwatch and such atm.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:51:24 No.55679746 Report

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>>55679628
I can't tell if this bait or you're genuinely retarded

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:51:27 No.55679747 Report

Quoted By: >>55679755

>>55679729
Alpharius is unlikely on account of being super-dead. He's up there with Ferrus and Sanguinis

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:52:22 No.55679752 Report

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>>55679703
The only thing getting custom vehicle rules this year is Land Raiders.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:53:01 No.55679755 Report

Quoted By: >>55679788 >>55679824

>>55679747
>Alpharius
>super dead
Considering he's died 4 times to different people I doubt that he's actually dead

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:57:06 No.55679778 Report

Quoted By: >>55679860

Current progress on some plasma incinerators, I went with a red plasma glow this time.

I tried the steel heating effect on the 3 on the outside of the pic

Thoughts?

The humidity around here is bad hence the bumpy primer, I've done about all I can do to fix it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:57:27 No.55679780 Report

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>>55679746
I am genuinely retarded

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:58:31 No.55679788 Report

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>>55679755
He's straight up confirmed dead in Praetorian of Dorn with Omegon even sensing his death and taking up his identity.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 06:59:56 No.55679798 Report

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>>55679729
Most of them are dead, though I do secretly hope that Batman returns as a headless DP of Malice/Malal

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:00:37 No.55679804 Report

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>>55679399
That's how Death Guard are meant to be played, anon.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:02:37 No.55679815 Report

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>>55679752
source on that it will be exclusive to Land Raiders?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:04:04 No.55679824 Report

Quoted By: >>55680297 >>55680316

>>55679755
No amount of denial will bring him back, chaoscuck. Omegon is supposedly alive but Alpharius is the deadest anyone has ever been.
Thanks to primarch powers Dorn felt it when he killed his ass, Omegon felt it when it happened etc.
He's fucking dead, Jim

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:06:29 No.55679842 Report

Quoted By: >>55679861 >>55679865 >>55679888

What's better, toughness 8 with a 2+ armor save, or toughness 7 with a 2+/5++ armor save?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:06:35 No.55679847 Report

Quoted By: >>55679857 >>55679859

>>55679815
It's in the announcement
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/

>We are going to trial some new rules to allow you to design your very own Land Raider variants and field these behemoths on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:07:52 No.55679857 Report

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>>55679847
>on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium
But it is the 42nd Millennium.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:08:21 No.55679859 Report

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>>55679847
Ah, thanks, hopefully they feel it is good enough to expand it to baneblades. Had missed it was limited, good to have updated info.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:08:28 No.55679860 Report

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>>55679778
Looks neat, though a red glow indicates less heat radiation.
Red light has a longer wavelength than blue, and contains less energy. If your plasmaguns are made from the same material as all others, then your are simply less hot.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:08:28 No.55679861 Report

Quoted By: >>55679869 >>55679871 >>55679873 >>55679942

>>55679842
What units are you choosing between

But T8 does cross the threshold for making S4 need 6s to wound, and you need the rare AP-4 before that 2+ save gets reduced to worse than a 5+

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:08:59 No.55679865 Report

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>>55679842
I'll stick with my toughness 8 w/ 2+/5++/6+++, thank you very much

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:09:13 No.55679867 Report

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>>55679860
It's simply to not be blue like every other plasma weapon lol.

It was either red or purple.

Ty tho

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:09:31 No.55679869 Report

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>>55679861
Ironclad Dreadnought vs Contemptor Dreadnought

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:09:34 No.55679871 Report

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>>55679861
It's also the difference between a meltagun wounding on 3s and one wounding on 4s.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:09:46 No.55679873 Report

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>>55679861
>LaughingDarkEldar.png

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:11:30 No.55679888 Report

Quoted By: >>55679945

>>55679842
depends on the army, particularly with the new militarum book coming. If you are running with any of the stuff that can increase saves just the fact that you have that 5++ can be a big deal, since you can then bump it down to a 4++ or even a 3++

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:18:37 No.55679934 Report

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So I found this floating around, person who posted it claims it was from some children's book they found, anyone care to translate?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:19:44 No.55679942 Report

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>>55679861
>rare
>>55679873

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:20:03 No.55679943 Report

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>>55679860
I think it has more to do with the emission spectra of the gas being used like in a tube sign.. Neon(orange), hydrogen (red), helium (yellow), carbon dioxide (white), and mercury (blue).

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:20:14 No.55679945 Report

Quoted By: >>55681646

>>55679888
I'm doing a Salamander's Dreadnought army.
At 1000 points.

My friends won't let me take Ashmantle in the 1000pts list, so I'm taking a Chaplain dread instead with the Salamander's Mantle relic so he's toughness 8 with a 5+ invuln.

I don't know what to spend the rest of my points on yet though, but I'm going to be half of an imperium force in a 2v2 game.
1000pts of Sisters and Grey Knights and 1000pts of Salamanders vs 1000pts of Emperor's Children and 1000pts of Iron Warriors.

I want to have at least one long range fire support unit.
Thinking a Relic Contemptor, either with two twin lascannons, two twin autocannons or one of each, or maybe taking a Relic Deredeo Dreadnought. Don't know what to put on the Deredeo though.
Or maybe a normal Venerable Dreadnought with either two twin autocannons, or one twin autocannon and one twin lascannon.

Then I'd like to have one or two units to flank the Chaplain dreadnought who will be my warlord, and I wasn't sure if I wanted them to be Ironclad dreadnoughts or assault cannon carrying Contemptors.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:20:30 No.55679949 Report

Quoted By: >>55679993

>>55679869
obviously the right choice is a Leviathan with twin grav-flux bombards.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:20:53 No.55679950 Report

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>>55679942
I sometimes feel bad when I play against Marines because sometimes it feels like DE were designed to shit all over them.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:21:55 No.55679960 Report

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>>55679934
>Unsatisfied with his ork army, Johan convinces his parents to commit to a large FW purchase. Here he is showing Lisa the size of his new Titan.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:26:19 No.55679991 Report

Quoted By: >>55680011 >>55680049 >>55680338 >>55680525

>>55679934
>It was a small monster in plastic. It held an axe in its hand. Johan said he painted them himself. Lisa thought they were pretty nicely painted. Just a bit smudgy. They looked scary with large teeth and axes and skulls.
>-What are they for? asked Lisa.
>-They're soldiers, said Johan. You set them up in armies and then you fight with dice and then they die.
>- Lisa didn't think it sounded that fun.
>-Do you have anything else in the bag, she said.
>Johan took out a measuring band that you could pull out.
>-You can measure centimetres with this, he said.

Basically, girls think 40k is icky.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:27:10 No.55679993 Report

Quoted By: >>55680003

>>55679869
>>55679949

The correct answer is obviously a Redemptor.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:27:26 No.55679996 Report

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>>55679934
My swedish is much too rusty for this shit

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:28:20 No.55680003 Report

Quoted By: >>55680051 >>55680086

>>55679993
Are Redemptors elites or heavy support?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:29:15 No.55680006 Report

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>>55679743
Eh, combine arms and troops maybe. Suit spam is a little weirder

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:30:26 No.55680011 Report

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>>55679991
Yxa had me stuck but I guess it should've been obvious
För fan

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:32:56 No.55680031 Report

Quoted By: >>55680064

>>55679934
>GW sues, says children's books are infringing on their trademark

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:35:49 No.55680049 Report

Quoted By: >>55680187

>>55679991
>Basically, girls think 40k is icky.

>Lisa thought they were pretty nicely painted. Just a bit smudgy

Nigga, she thinks he needs to thin his paints.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:36:03 No.55680051 Report

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>>55680003
elite

Has the design grown on anyone else or is it just me, might have to get myself one

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:37:41 No.55680064 Report

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>>55680031
>releases childrens book ft. The Redeemer to leverage their brand in this new market
>half the book is advertisements for new 40k releases

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:38:12 No.55680065 Report

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>>55680051
I like it now more than I did before but I won't be buying one any time soon, lets just say that.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:38:43 No.55680068 Report

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>>55680051
I love them, plan on getting two eventually

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:38:48 No.55680070 Report

Quoted By: >>55680081 >>55680091

Would I be retarded if I ran my berzerker champions with duel lightning claws?
> world eaters
> duel claws
On charge
> 10 str 4 ap -2 attacks
Or is the fist/chainsword better

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:39:35 No.55680075 Report

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>>55680051
Still don't like the beer belly, but I dig the new weapons and the sheer size of it. Feels like a big stompy war engine. Boxnaughts are nice, but they were always too tiny.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:40:32 No.55680081 Report

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>>55680070
Well, claw is probably better than chainsword, and with the fist you can't get extra attacks from sixes

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:40:43 No.55680084 Report

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>>55680051
>THAT FUCKING MOLDLINE ON THE DUDE GETTING STEPPED ON
>CANNOT UNSEE

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:41:11 No.55680086 Report

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>>55680003
elite.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:41:45 No.55680088 Report

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>>55680081
Forgot about the death to the false emperor rule. Any mathhammer guys out there to figure how many marines on average he could shred?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:41:56 No.55680091 Report

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>>55680070
The word you're looking for is "dual", the claws aren't meeting eachother for some old fashion "pistols at dawn".

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:44:56 No.55680105 Report

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>>55680088
Well you're hitting 2/3rds of the time, and then you wound on half of those, and then they save 1/3rd of those

But the game never works out in a mathhammery fashion, thats the thing about dice. Just play the game, fuck the averages.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:46:51 No.55680119 Report

Quoted By: >>55680138

>>55680091
True and sorry for my spelling.
>>55680088
> 80088
> 88
> is it a sign?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:49:58 No.55680134 Report

Quoted By: >>55680188

>>55680088
3.5 Dead Marines from his 8 attacks in combat, including extra attacks from DttFE for a non-WE berserker champ with a pair of claws. Not bad. I forgot about the S5, which brought it up from 2.3 marines. Big difference there.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:50:13 No.55680137 Report

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>>55680051
>pot belly
>non overlapping armour plates
>curved + angular armour
>cardboard-ey sculpting on arms and legs
>that dreadful minigun design they've had since the Leman Russ Punisher release

There's a lot of details I like, like the ganglyness of the limbs, articulated sarcophagus cover and the little Primaris style turrets, but overall I don't like it.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:50:54 No.55680138 Report

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>>55680119
Yes

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:53:01 No.55680150 Report

Quoted By: >>55680731

>>55679934
Beware the sky dice

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 07:53:09 No.55680151 Report

Quoted By:

>play some kill team, be inquisition vs not!Squats
>enemy brought a few bikes and I' just infantry spam
>game goes on for a while, from turn 2 to turn 6 there is a moshpit going on on top of our objective, the brawl never truly ends
>meanwhile, enemy bike had flanked and charged my last stormtrooper
>from turn 3 to the end of the game, these guys fight eachother
>both roll 1s and 1s only
>neither deals a wound to the other during the entire game
>game ends, win because I have more dudes left on the objective
>biker and trooper still slapping at eachother, suspect they have something going on since they won't agree to hurt eachother
>fluff it so that they ride off to the sunset together
Love can bloom, lads.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:00:06 No.55680187 Report

Quoted By: >>55680292

>>55680049
>Lisa tyckte inte at set lät så roligt

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:00:12 No.55680188 Report

Quoted By: >>55680199 >>55680206 >>55680231

>>55680134
Did you factor in rerolls to wound?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:01:36 No.55680199 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680188
>>55680088

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:02:47 No.55680206 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680188
> 88 again
Oh my, duel claws it is then.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:02:48 No.55680207 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680051
I like them with a good pose, even with just some slight adjustment. Standing still they're awkward

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:05:38 No.55680228 Report

Quoted By: >>55680243 >>55680576 >>55680898 >>55680922

>>55680051
Seeing this is the only reason I started to like them, didn't convert mine full on like pic, but he model is salvageable.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:06:08 No.55680231 Report

Quoted By: >>55680241 >>55680244

>>55680188
Yes HOWEVER I thought claws were -1 not -2, so it's a little different. Here's the break down:

4(2/3)=2.67
2.67+(2.67(1/6))=3.11
3.11(2/3)=2.07
2.07+(2.07(2/3))=3.45
3.45(2/3)=2.30

That's 2.3 wounds against T4 3+ per combat, or 4.6 per turn.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:07:49 No.55680241 Report

Quoted By: >>55680244 >>55680264

>>55680231
Also, I might have fucked up the DttFE. I think I should have multiplied 4 by 1/6, not the hits.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:08:22 No.55680243 Report

Quoted By: >>55680267 >>55680271 >>55680440

>>55680228
Are those tau battlesuit legs?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:08:36 No.55680244 Report

Quoted By: >>55680310

>>55680231
>>55680241
I don't fully understand mathhammer, but I like it

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:10:28 No.55680258 Report

Quoted By: >>55680589

>>55679335
I believe we'll be seeing updated kroot/stingwings and if you want to start a tau army it is easy as cake to build an easily expandable core , 2 start collecting boxes and an armored assault box gets you the following:

2 ethereals, can easily make Aun'shi well
10 Firewarriors
10 Breachers
10 Pathfinders
6 Crisis Suits
A Devilfish to carry the Breachers
A fuck ton of drones

And then just add whatever you think looks good

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:10:39 No.55680259 Report

Quoted By: >>55680276 >>55680405

Pretty comfy thread desu but super slow
What's everyone been working on these past few days? I finally resumed progress on my Freebootas, cleaned up and based Hatman and started painting Raghead
wonder of I ought to get a Gorkanaut for some Nobz in a 'Naut

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:11:47 No.55680264 Report

Quoted By: >>55680310

>>55680241
Appreciate it comrade.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:11:50 No.55680265 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679520
consider movement trays, the guardsmen in our group started using them and it helps so damn much

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:12:10 No.55680267 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680243
Looks like a mix of parts, I think the lower half is from an iron strider and the thigh and foot are somewhat harder to place.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:12:35 No.55680271 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680243
Dunecrawler. So's the head plate and some of the pipework.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:14:10 No.55680276 Report

Quoted By: >>55680287

>>55680259
finishing touches on my thousand sons primaris before moving over to DG. got a recast 30k mortarion for cheap that I'm gonna be running as a demon prince of nurgle, pretty excited about using. the DG sculpts are so fucking good and huge that I never wanna go back to using oldscale marines.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:16:27 No.55680287 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680276
I really am quite fond of the scale that the Chads and new DG sit at

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:17:58 No.55680292 Report

Quoted By: >>55680304

>>55680187
It doesn't seem fun =/= it's icky.

No fucking wonder none of you fuckers have any friends.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:19:01 No.55680297 Report

Quoted By: >>55680305

>>55679824
>deadest anyone has ever been.
Given the emperor erased his soul, Wouldn't that be Horus?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:20:20 No.55680304 Report

Quoted By: >>55680406

>>55680292
Is there really a difference? Either way she doesn't like it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:20:25 No.55680305 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680297
I suppose that might be true.
Well, a close second anyway

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:20:59 No.55680310 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680244
2.46(4.9) wounds if I do DttFE on the 4 attacks not hits, which I should do since each attack has a 1/6 chance of making an extra attack.

Basically it's:
4 attacks (3 base +1 from claw)
Each attack his on a 3, 4, 5, or 6 which is 4/6 or 2/3
Each attack also has a 1 in 6 chance of generating another attack
Each wound at S5 has wounds on the same 3-6, but then each failed wound also has a chance to wound again (fucked up my math again. My fault for doing this while literally shitting)
Then, each wound has a 1/3 chance of failing aka a 2/3 chance of succeeding.

>Initial 4 Attacks
4(2/3)=2.67
>Death to the False Emperor
2.67+(4(1/6))=3.33
>Wounding on 3+
3.33(2/3)=2.22 (wounds)
>Rerolling failed wounds (fixing my fuckup)
2.22+((3.33-2.22)(2/3))=2.96
>Armor saves (failed saves)
2.96(2/3)=1.97

So, with my finally (hopefully) corrected math, it's actually 1.97 wounds per combat, or 3.95 per turn. Hope that makes sense.

>>55680264
Corrected math

Alpharius Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:23:34 No.55680316 Report

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>>55679824
That's what they said last time .

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:25:54 No.55680324 Report

Quoted By: >>55680344 >>55680356 >>55681283 >>55681915

Having trouble washing vehicles lads. My pin washes never come out right and look spotty at best. Isnt there a technique of washing vehicles where you cover the whole thing in wash, then with q-tups clean it up alot?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:26:12 No.55680326 Report

Quoted By: >>55680777 >>55681765

>>55679236

>he didn't like me suggesting ways to make his army less waacy

Maybe because how he plays the game is his own fucking business?

I understand that people don't like losing, but the idea that we're so precious about it that we should go around telling people what they can and can't play blows my fuckin' mind.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:28:21 No.55680338 Report

Quoted By: >>55680353

>>55679991
>>-They're soldiers, said Johan. You set them up in armies and then you fight with dice and then they die.

This man is a true Ork player.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:30:36 No.55680344 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680324
You could maybe get some retarded to mix with the wash and then brush it on, havent tried it myself though

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:31:38 No.55680353 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680338
A gentleman and a scholar

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:31:52 No.55680354 Report

Quoted By: >>55680360

What would be better generally?

S5 AP-2
S4 AP-3

Not sure if I should give my Blightlords Baleswords or Bubotic Axes.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:32:02 No.55680356 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680324

A gloss varnish, wash with oil paints thinned with white spirit, clean up with q-tips and matte varnish to finish.

It works, it looks good, but it's messy and time consuming. I don't really do it anymore.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:32:55 No.55680360 Report

Quoted By: >>55680381 >>55680469

>>55680354
S5 over S4 any day.
The one less AP wont matter as much as wounding most things on 3s

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:37:20 No.55680381 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680360
Wounding on 3+ is a pretty big deal, especially since you're rerolling 1s from being a plague weapon, which means you're nearly wounding on 2+

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:40:02 No.55680395 Report

Quoted By:

guys, with the astra militarum relic where you get an extra CP when your opponent uses a stratagem, can you reroll the dice you roll using a stratagem? And can you get an extra CP back from this with the warlord trait to get a CP back when you use a stratagem?

Combine this with the insane number of CP ou can get from Astra, and you have practically unlimited CP (kinda)

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:41:55 No.55680405 Report

Quoted By: >>55680445 >>55680487 >>55680973 >>55681078 >>55682145

>>55680259

Gorkanaut is the best of the big Ork walkers. Morkanaut is overpriced and the Stompa is an absolute joke.

Basically all you're interested in is the melee statline because the guns on all of them are pathetic. And the Gorka has 2 more attacks, which typically means 6 more since you use the Smash option against 95% of targets.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:42:18 No.55680406 Report

Quoted By: >>55680428

>>55680304
Eating puke is icky. Playing MtG doesn't sound like fun.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:43:40 No.55680412 Report

Quoted By: >>55680473 >>55680688

Sneaky superheavies

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:47:21 No.55680428 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680406
Playing MtG does sound icky because everyone who plays it is a fat greasy neckbeard/basement dweller
Its quite disgusting

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:49:16 No.55680440 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680243
thighs are just the lower legs reversed, and the lower legs are from the dune crawler.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:50:36 No.55680445 Report

Quoted By: >>55680451

>>55680405
Granted it's also an 18 barrel chaingun crewed by maniacs who think maintenance is a good joke.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:52:07 No.55680451 Report

Quoted By: >>55680456

>>55680445
Maybe they dunk the round in oxiclean and because they believe it to work, it does

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:53:10 No.55680456 Report

Quoted By: >>55680468

>>55680451
*rounds, hard to shoot 3d6 with just 1 bullet

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:55:32 No.55680466 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679869

Ironclads are 3+

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:56:20 No.55680468 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680456
Kek, with the new Baneblade buffs that just made me think of a tank commander go "FIRE"
And then the Baneblade takes aim & goes RATATATATATA with its big turret

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:56:28 No.55680469 Report

Quoted By: >>55680485

>>55680360
Okay, one more question.
Combi-metla or combi-plasma?
They both seem pretty good in their own rights and since I'm going to get my Blightlords stuck in melee anyhow, might the melta be better?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:57:04 No.55680473 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680412
Camo reminds me a bit of those horrible popcorn flavored jellybeans

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:57:46 No.55680477 Report

Quoted By: >>55680484

On my hobby bench:
>A 90% complete LOTR commission
>A half assembled Goblin BB team
>A primed 1000pts Death Guard
>2000pts of heavily converted World Eaters still in box
>3000pts of old fantasy night goblins ready to be stripped and redone.
Why the fuck am I still wasting time on /tg/? Conversely what should I work on next?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:58:56 No.55680484 Report

Quoted By: >>55680492 >>55680495

>>55680477
>heavily converted
>still in box
What did he mean by this

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:59:24 No.55680485 Report

Quoted By: >>55680491

>>55680469
Depends on what you're going to be fighting
Plasma is good at short range too, because you'll be rapid firing

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 08:59:37 No.55680487 Report

Quoted By: >>55680498

>>55680405
Neither of those are chainguns

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:00:22 No.55680491 Report

Quoted By: >>55680507

>>55680485
Most of the time I'm going to be fighting other CSM or SM players at my LGS

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:00:27 No.55680492 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680484
It means he sat on the boxes by mistake and it looks like a bomb went off

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:01:00 No.55680495 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680484
I know how and have converted what I am planning but haven't yet. If you know what I mean.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:01:26 No.55680497 Report

Quoted By: >>55680505

>So factions codexes get subfaction rules
>Ork codex drops
>All the clans have rules
>Even SnakeBites

Be still my heart.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:01:36 No.55680498 Report

Quoted By: >>55680511 >>55680598

>>55680487

Ok /k/ but they're still what people think of when they think of chain guns.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:02:49 No.55680505 Report

Quoted By: >>55680594 >>55680655

>>55680497
>implying anyone plays Snakebites

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:03:25 No.55680507 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680491
If you'll have a reroll 1s guy near them, I'd prefer plasma
If you plan to go tank/TEQ hunting I guess I'd go melta

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:03:52 No.55680511 Report

Quoted By: >>55680516 >>55680517

>>55680498
>people
If you can call them that.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:04:47 No.55680516 Report

Quoted By: >>55680543

>>55680511
Read the post again and slap yourself for being stupid for me.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:04:52 No.55680517 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680511
Me's an peoples >:(

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:06:10 No.55680525 Report

Quoted By: >>55680531 >>55680537

>>55679991

>centimetres

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:07:37 No.55680531 Report

Quoted By: >>55680538

>>55680525
In Euroland all measuring things come with centimetres and inches

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:08:05 No.55680537 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680525
I don't mind that part when the author went through the trouble of being accurate with everything else
Also I have one of those ikea tape measures that has both inches and centimeters, maybe Johan does too

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:08:09 No.55680538 Report

Quoted By: >>55680546

>>55680531

Yeah I know here in England we play 40k with inches though.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:09:01 No.55680542 Report

Quoted By: >>55680548 >>55680554 >>55680559 >>55680587 >>55680610 >>55680957

What guard regiment should I start painting? I've got steel legion, Catachan, Cadians and militarum tempestus.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:09:06 No.55680543 Report

Quoted By: >>55680598

>>55680516
I think it's you that needs better reading comprehension.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:09:35 No.55680546 Report

Quoted By: >>55680553

>>55680538
Here in Canada we play 40k in mm

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:09:55 No.55680548 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680542
All

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:10:55 No.55680553 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680546
Officially supported like the jap version or just converting them as you go?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:10:58 No.55680554 Report

Quoted By: >>55680559

>>55680542
Thin your fucking paints god damn

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:12:37 No.55680559 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680554
I didn't even paint those. All second hand. So most of them are going into acetone.>>55680542

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:15:34 No.55680575 Report

Quoted By:

My hellblaster squad, not finished completely but enough for me to play with and not be a grey tide.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:15:54 No.55680576 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680228
YOU NOW HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:18:16 No.55680587 Report

Quoted By: >>55680627 >>55680639

>>55680542
Steel Legion, they're almost as cool as Krieg.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:18:52 No.55680589 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680258
I wouldn't take Breachers in the new edition, at least until the codex drops. AP-2 is literally half as good as it was when it was AP3, and S6 is no longer 2+ to wound vs T4. Tau are frail enough that getting close isn't worth it unless you can absolutely devastate something, or are willing to sacrifice the unit getting close. Furthermore, the formerly good 5++ from Guardian drones is no longer worth it, as most anti-light infantry is only AP-1 or even 0, so it provides you nothing of value at all. In conclusion, just take Strike Squads.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:20:07 No.55680594 Report

Quoted By: >>55680655 >>55680679

>>55680505

Fuck you anon. They would if we had fucking plastic squiggoths...

Shit yeah you're right... no one plays snakebites.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:21:07 No.55680598 Report

Quoted By: >>55680628

>>55680543
You said that:
>> people
>if you can call them that.
Either you are claiming:
a) You can't call /k/ browsers people which, even though many would believe this, they aren't who >>55680498 refers to as people. This would mean you misread the post.
b) That you can't call those who don't browse /k/ people. This would be idiotic yet would mean you have read >>55680498 correctly (just leaving you an idiot instead).
Now before posting your rebuttal consider that either option would leave you the idiot.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:21:49 No.55680604 Report

Quoted By: >>55680773 >>55681301

LOOKING 4 MATHKEKS

Functional retard has a question;

Which is the most effective tank-regiment;

Cadians or Catachans.

Cadian has a special tank order, but Catachans has almost the same rule built-in to the doctrine, no order needed.

NO FLUFF
CRUNCH ONLY

Thank you.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:22:44 No.55680610 Report

Quoted By: >>55680626

>>55680542
Death Korps of the Third Reich. I mean Krieg.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:24:09 No.55680618 Report

Quoted By: >>55680629

>>55679049
>>55679466

What's with the "defiler bad" meme ?

Equip it with scourges

Cheap, lots of high S attacks, smattering of high S shooting

??

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:25:14 No.55680621 Report

Quoted By: >>55681117

So you're telling me a mekboy can't repair a trukk if he's embarked on it?
The fuck shit is that?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:25:36 No.55680624 Report

Quoted By: >>55680643 >>55680783

So GW said they'd like to add another race to the game. What would you like to see? Me? Exodites. Why? Dinosaurs fucking rule.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:25:47 No.55680626 Report

Quoted By: >>55680644

>>55680610
Krieg is Imperial Germany and France put in a blender. Also aesthetic as fuck

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:25:48 No.55680627 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680587
The poor man's krieg.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:25:54 No.55680628 Report

Quoted By: >>55680632 >>55680651

>>55680598
You got both wrong, I was saying that those who think that chainguns have multiple rotating barrels shouldn't be classified as people.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:26:30 No.55680629 Report

Quoted By: >>55680635 >>55681791

>>55680618
Hits on a 5+ when it moves.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:27:36 No.55680632 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680628
this

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:28:06 No.55680635 Report

Quoted By: >>55680647 >>55681791

>>55680629
When it's moving it's assaulting

Equip scourges and go

???

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:28:06 No.55680636 Report

Quoted By: >>55680814

Any suggestions for cloak colours?

Don't wanna do screamer pink as it's so common.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:28:18 No.55680639 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680587
Yea steel legion is my favourite. Anon do you know a few brands for spraycans especially for basecoating metals? I hate it when the paint peels of metal models.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:29:08 No.55680643 Report

Quoted By: >>55680663

>>55680624
I'd like to see R&H if that's what they mean. It would flesh out chaos to three main parts (CSM, Daemons and renegades) which is on par with Imperium (Guard, SM and Daemon-hunters) and Eldar (Craftworlds, Dark Eldar and Harlequins).
However other than that exodites sound fun as it is expanding an already known faction rather than adding a whole new piss weak (see tau) faction with little interest (see tau), power (see tau) or grimdarkness (see tau).
May I also ask where you heard this rumor?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:29:08 No.55680644 Report

Quoted By: >>55680653 >>55680682 >>55680696 >>55680705 >>55680816 >>55681056

>>55680626
DKOK is 100% french

don't start this bullshit again

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:29:27 No.55680647 Report

Quoted By: >>55680941 >>55681791

>>55680635
Because then you're paying for guns you aren't getting much use out of.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:30:29 No.55680651 Report

Quoted By: >>55680718

>>55680628
Somehow you made it worse. Congrats /k/ommando.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:30:49 No.55680653 Report

Quoted By: >>55680661

>>55680644
What does Krieg mean in French?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:30:53 No.55680655 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680505
>>55680594
>Wanted to play Snakebites because i prefer green tide to ork machines
>Their colour scheme sucks
>Goff has all the good characters due to essentially being Orktramarines.
Noone plays Snakebites.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:31:52 No.55680661 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680653
>Krieg

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:32:10 No.55680663 Report

Quoted By: >>55680686

>>55680643

NOVA or gamesday seminar one of the two. Q&A question about rumors of another faction being added. Say they'd like to do it. Keyword there is like.

Tau wise, atia said stuff outside the empire. I hope kroot, vespid, or demiurge. Probably end up being farsight enclaves though.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:35:13 No.55680679 Report

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>>55680594
Guy at my store does. He uses normie Dinosaur models and converts them heavily. It sounds like shit, but he does a great job with them.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:35:33 No.55680682 Report

Quoted By: >>55680696

>>55680644

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:35:55 No.55680686 Report

Quoted By: >>55681026

>>55680663
> Chaos = All powerful threat perhaps reaching beyond our galaxy
> Tyranids = Unstoppable wave of flesh coming from another galaxy
> Necrons = Once all-powerful rulers who knew the creators of everything known
> Orks = A force unimaginably large who gain in strength and intelligence when they gather
> Eldar = the supreme being who can control the winds of magic.
> Imperium = Plot armor thick enough to stop all above
> Tau = Piss-boys.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:36:00 No.55680688 Report

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>>55680412
Pink is the best colour for desert camo.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:36:55 No.55680692 Report

Quoted By: >>55680701 >>55680725 >>55681736

How terrible of a list is this?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:37:54 No.55680696 Report

Quoted By: >>55681657

>>55680644
No there are obviously German and french influences, the helmet is even an obvious hybrid between the German and French WW1 helmets.

>>55680682
Zero French influence either.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:38:33 No.55680700 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679337
Personal preference

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:38:35 No.55680701 Report

Quoted By: >>55680796

>>55680692
>FW shit

Instantly dropped

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:39:35 No.55680705 Report

Quoted By: >>55680715

>>55680644
>99% of DKOK models wearing a spacified kraut WW1 helmets which is one of the most recognizeable helmets of the first half of the 20th century
>100% french

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:42:16 No.55680715 Report

Quoted By: >>55680771

>>55680705
Point me to the German helmets with crests and ridges.
They clearly take influences from both sides every one always just says German because the shape of the helmet is so recognizable,

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:43:14 No.55680718 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680651
Thank you, nonperson.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:43:53 No.55680725 Report

Quoted By: >>55680796

>>55680692
>Primarus SHIT

Instantly dropped

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:45:03 No.55680731 Report

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>>55680150
>Zoggin RNG, Annuver free!

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:53:08 No.55680771 Report

Quoted By: >>55680801

>>55680715
Always thought the DKOK ridge was closer to the one on the space marine helmet, hence the "spacified" part and I'll do you one better and find an actual huge fucking eagle taking up most of the front on a German helmet.

People say German because if you took away the ridge and crest it would literally just be a stahlhelm. The coats are a lot closer to the French coats though, I don't get why it's s huge issue. People aren't saying their German, they're saying they're a MIX of German and French, which they obviously are, you own post even suggests it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:53:13 No.55680773 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680604
Take your waac-fagging and fuck yourself, gaurdfag.

Alpharius Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:53:45 No.55680777 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680326
GW games have always been reliant on a social contract to make them worth the time, and 8th is no exception.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:54:41 No.55680783 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680624
You know those robots that were around before the the horus heresy? I'd like for those to somehow make a come back. They looked sweet.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:57:22 No.55680796 Report

Quoted By: >>55681029

>>55680725
>>55680701
Not sure why I expected any better feedback from /tg/

I legitimately like the look of Primaris Marines and the Leviathan. I painted some up,
so I want to put them in a list.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:57:28 No.55680797 Report

Quoted By: >>55680818 >>55681025 >>55681782

Does anyone have the duncan where he mixes metallic to paint some alpha legion?

I'd like to do the same thing with emperor's children

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 09:57:50 No.55680801 Report

Quoted By: >>55680816

>>55680771
>they're saying they're a MIX of German and French
Yes that's explicitly what I'm saying, I don't know why you think I'm disagreeing with you on this.
My point was that the ridge was a little French inspired flair on what was otherwise a very German helmet.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:00:16 No.55680814 Report

Quoted By: >>55680857

>>55680636
Khorne Red.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:01:04 No.55680816 Report

Quoted By: >>55680823

>>55680801
I had you mixed up with >>55680644 because of your reaction to be stating they weren't 100% French.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:01:10 No.55680818 Report

Quoted By: >>55680886 >>55681804

>>55680797
We'd all like to do it with x color but it only really works with blue for whatever reason. Please post pics if I'm wrong but I've been trying with red for a month now to no avail.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:02:56 No.55680823 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680816
I was just reacting to the
>99% German
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:09:24 No.55680857 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680814
That's a good idea. App suggests carroburg crimson as shade, any other ones also work?

Don't have carroburg crimson.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:09:51 No.55680861 Report

Quoted By: >>55680883 >>55680961 >>55681809

-Battalion Detachment-
HQ
Typhus - 175 pts
Malignant Plaguecaster - 110 pts

Troops
20 Poxwalkers - 120 pts
20 Cultists: 2 Heavy Stubbers - 88 pts (maybe CC weapons and flamers?)
5 Plague Marines: 2 Blight Launchers, Plasma Gun, Plaguesword - 137 pts
5 Plague Marines: 2 Blight Launchers, Plasma Gun, Plaguesword - 137 pts

Elites
Noxious Blightbringer: Fugaris' Helm - 70 pts

Fast Attack
Foetid Bloat-Drone - 158 pts
Foetid Bloat-Drone - 158 pts
Foetid Bloat-Drone - 158 pts

Heavy support
Plagueburst Crawler: 2 Entropy Cannons - 156 pts

Total - 1467 pts

Been working on a DG list for a few days now, trying to work it out with advice given. Any good? I was aiming for Poxwalker heavy, but I began steering away from it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:12:57 No.55680879 Report

Quoted By:

How would using regular Chadian shock troopers as conscripts (only one unit) and using a regiment's style soldier's as veterans look? I want to start converting my force to Tallarn and I've found some nice third party desert soldier heads, but I'd much rather put them in new models than rip the heads off old ones.

>inb4 I'm a WAACfag

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:13:33 No.55680883 Report

Quoted By: >>55681013

>>55680861
If you drop 10 cultists you can afford a naked lord for the reroll 1s and extra command point

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:13:43 No.55680886 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680818
Someone posted purple a few threads ago but I lost it

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:16:47 No.55680894 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679395
He means a leaked codex in the .pdf file format

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:18:05 No.55680898 Report

Quoted By: >>55680921 >>55681014 >>55681676

>>55680228

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:20:01 No.55680909 Report

Quoted By: >>55681059

>Wanna play vostroyans
>Every squad will look the same due to being metal
>No vostroyan tank commander minis
>No missile launcher or autocannon team models

GW for fuck sake I don't give a damn about vostroyans. What I do give a shit about is the fact that you could have printed money by releasing new plastic regiments... For fuck sake Cadia is dead let another regiment be the guards poster boys.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:22:48 No.55680921 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680898
>T A L L B O I

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:22:52 No.55680922 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680228

*mmmhm*

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:26:31 No.55680941 Report

Quoted By: >>55681739 >>55681791

>>55680647
You're not though, look at the price of the whole thing.

If it was costed as a shooting platform it would be A LOT more expensive with those guns.

It's a botched hybrid . . . that does assaulting really good with shooting on the side.

Think of it this way; Imagine if ork walkers were REALLY good ; This it it.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:27:35 No.55680944 Report

Quoted By: >>55680959

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:29:29 No.55680957 Report

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>>55680542

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:29:56 No.55680959 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680944
With order, Canada. Without, Catachan.

Ez enough.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:30:15 No.55680961 Report

Quoted By: >>55681013

>>55680861
If this is the list from the past few forums this is looking much better, Poxwalkers are amazing with Typhus and a Plaugecaster casting things on them, get as many as possible. The Noxious Blightbringer with the Helm is a great addition. If you keep the Bloat Drones near him at deployment they can take advantage of his aura to flank faster, to me its looking good!

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:32:02 No.55680973 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680405
That's because most of those barrels are just glued on because the orks think that adds dakka

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:38:10 No.55680998 Report

Quoted By:

New Nurgle stuff when?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:39:34 No.55681004 Report

Quoted By: >>55681007 >>55681023 >>55681086

What would be more efective plasma or grav with the following stats?

Grav: Heavy 5 5 -3 1 (d3 if save is 3+ or better)

Plasma: Heavy d6 7 -3 1

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:40:18 No.55681007 Report

Quoted By: >>55681021

>>55681004
Against what?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:41:46 No.55681013 Report

Quoted By: >>55681035 >>55681068

>>55680961
Do you think it's worth taking a naked lord like suggested here >>55680883 ? I could probably drop the heavy stubber to give him a real weapon, although I can't think of what.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:41:52 No.55681014 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680898

Looks good, if a bit Tau-y

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:43:38 No.55681021 Report

Quoted By: >>55681182

>>55681007
in general. I feel that plasma is better but with so many shots I would never overload it and the number of shots is so random.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:43:45 No.55681023 Report

Quoted By: >>55681055

>>55681004
You can just ask what kind of Kataphron are better.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:43:57 No.55681025 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680797
Look for the video for the Artificer Tint set. I've got some green and yellow (read: mustard) tester Marines done with it it's not bad

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:44:02 No.55681026 Report

Quoted By: >>55681045

>>55680686
Doesn't chaos auto lose if everyone dies? No real space for emotions and stuff, results in dead chaos entities.

In other words fighting chaos is like fighting a retarded children with a bomb strapped on his chest and the trigger in his hand.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:44:35 No.55681029 Report

Quoted By: >>55681052 >>55681192

>>55680796
ignore them most of the primaris stuff isnt that bad, except those fucking crash test dummies they call inceptors

Forge world's dreadnoughts are not that bad compared to the other undercosted horseshit like the sicarians or their flyers

Leviathan's are second only to the humble boxnaught be proud to field such a brick of resin

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:45:52 No.55681035 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681013
GIve your naked lord a Balesword and the Arch Contaminator warlord trait, now his sword, knives, Blight launchers, mortar and spitters are rerolling all wounds when within 7" of him.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:46:20 No.55681038 Report

Quoted By:

Company veteran bikers with stormshields and plasma guns or stormshields and thunder hammers?

Assuming a chaplain or captain in each case , it seems plasma guns have similar chances to hit and wound but can do so at range without the overwatch and opponent fight phase.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:47:26 No.55681045 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681026
We don't know if potentially chaos is a multi-galactic entity. If so one meager galaxy won't sustain as much as they could get out of it from slaughter.
However even then Horus failing his herasy could have been a ploy of the gods to prolong the inevitable.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:48:48 No.55681052 Report

Quoted By: >>55681143

>>55681029
>primaris stuff isnt that bad
Might not have been if it had been a space marine revamp

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:49:45 No.55681055 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681023
kataphron destroyers are obviously better, but they can equip plasma and grav so that is why I ask.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:49:47 No.55681056 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680644
That's some good bait.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:50:32 No.55681059 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680909
honestly you have more variety in your 10 metal minis then you would in a plastic cadian box

you can convert an autocannon team by swapping out the metal lascannon with a plastic ac one , just ask a frienly neighborhood guard player , he'll have some spares lying around
honestly the biggest obstacle to running vostroyans is that you only get a flamer and a hbolter meaning you either have to buy 3 plasmas and convert a vox operator to run them as vets or buy 2 squads and still convert a vox operator . unless you really want to whip out your wallet and buy a command squad for every infantry squad you get
it's a shame really , you used to be able to buy a 3 man blister of vostroyans 2 years back

look on the bright side though , atleast you guys can still buy a plasma gunner , which is honestly the best sw option available to us right now , there's no reason not to take it
my valhallans are gonna have to make do with conversions made out of the space marine plasmaguns

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:51:21 No.55681068 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681013
Rerolls are incredibly useful, especially if you keep him near you DG squads to use with their Plasma and other weapons to give some anti armour punch or to wade him in with the poxwalkers/Typhus to reroll those hits.

Also to be fair with 20 cultists many will die to moral, so it might be more useful to go with the lord + drones in a separate outrider detachment for the extra command point and reroll benefits.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:52:38 No.55681078 Report

Quoted By: >>55681109 >>55681173

>>55680405
doesn't the ork get to shoot up to 9d6 times ? but it runs the risk of running out of ammo
or is that the stompa ?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:54:14 No.55681086 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681004
grav

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:54:27 No.55681089 Report

Quoted By: >>55681099 >>55681119 >>55681141

Why is there no necromunda hype lads? Get pumped!

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:55:44 No.55681095 Report

Quoted By:

Question

What knight variant would be best for a MSU SoB army
Usually running 10 melta dominion in repressor, 3-4 storm Bolter / flamer spam Immolator sisters, some heavy Bolter retribution

Crusader with full DAKKA seem to be the best option.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:56:33 No.55681099 Report

Quoted By: >>55681107

>>55681089
Because we don't know about the rules so all we have to go on are the models?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:57:52 No.55681107 Report

Quoted By: >>55681145

>>55681099
>models
Am I the only one who considers models to be more important than rules?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:57:58 No.55681109 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681078
Average of 9d6 is still only 27, much less than 40.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:58:29 No.55681117 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680621
Why couldn't he?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 10:59:04 No.55681119 Report

Quoted By: >>55681140

>>55681089
It had board game look. Unlike the older Necromund that least had shitty thin cardboard to make terrain with some volume

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:00:10 No.55681128 Report

Quoted By: >>55681159

I like Roboute Guilliman. I think he's a good character and a good character for Warhammer 40k. He should rebel and make Ultramar the Imperium Secondus as was his plan.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:02:01 No.55681140 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681119
The box just comes with the board to cut costs. The rules for terrain fights are still most certainly there.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:02:04 No.55681141 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681089
No interest in either of the initial two gangs.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:02:13 No.55681143 Report

Quoted By: >>55681160

>>55681052

Nah, the proportions are all fucked up. They don't look like burly supersoldiers in power armour anymore.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:02:39 No.55681145 Report

Quoted By: >>55681157

>>55681107
The rules are the most important thing in Necromunda. Since the models can be made from conversions, kitbash and/or third parties.
80's style cyberpunk/apocalypse models are not exactly a strange thing to find.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:04:26 No.55681157 Report

Quoted By: >>55681171

>>55681145
Well I don't know about you but rules are just words. My friends and I can and have create rule-sets that suit are needs a whole lot better than GW. But models are another story which is why first and foremost GW is a miniature company to me.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:04:40 No.55681159 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681128
t. Alpharius

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:04:56 No.55681160 Report

Quoted By: >>55681170

>>55681143
They look like some Infinity heavy armour dudes.
Something looks strange with Primaris when put next to other 40k models.

I know 40k scale is all over the place with Orks being small, guardsmen huge and dark Eldar are smaller than everyone else for no reason.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:06:57 No.55681170 Report

Quoted By: >>55681183

>>55681160
It's newhammer my dude. Like AOS ignore all models that aren't post 8th because they are the only ones GW is going to care about.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:07:45 No.55681171 Report

Quoted By: >>55681179

>>55681157
Again, what little worth Necromunda has coming from GW are the rules. The models themself are a bonus.
Also Goliath look like ass, they all look the same. They remind me of a Catachan and ork boy conversion a kid made years ago.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:08:02 No.55681173 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681078

That's the Stompa. The Gorkanaut gets 3D6 shots at Str 6, AP-1 and 1 dmg each. Statistically that means it hits around 3 times, and against a Marine, wounds twice and kills 1. By contrast, the 2 Twin-Linked Big Shootas it has fire 12 shots that hit 4 times, wound 3 times and kill 1. That's rather like the Heavy Stubber on a Knight having the same killing power as its arm gun.

The Stompa also has less attacks than the Gorkanaut because of reasons.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:09:04 No.55681179 Report

Quoted By: >>55681198

>>55681171
I guess when I think about it I have no reason to be hyped but I still am. Should I seek help?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:09:36 No.55681182 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681021
If it's kataphrons, the Grav is better against infantry, especially infantry with more wounds.

Plasma will be better wounding against vehicles, especially with overcharging

Park a Dominus or Cawl next to them. Overcharging isn't as big of a problem.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:09:44 No.55681183 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681170
The tree people look like Warhammer, the ground marines and squat look like something from warmachine

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:11:16 No.55681192 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681029
Inceptors look like fucking garbage, they look a little better if you shave off their hood, but not much.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:12:22 No.55681198 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681179
>hype/hope is the first step on the road to disapointment

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:12:23 No.55681199 Report

Quoted By:

So I was talking to sum dud he told me that in combat a thunda warrior is acctually more powerful than a spac marin and now I feel like making a pre-unification army. What do /tg/?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:13:18 No.55681202 Report

Quoted By: >>55681211 >>55681215 >>55681306 >>55681618 >>55681628 >>55681637 >>55681759

So one of my local Warhammer stores just burned down. Possibly arson.

Has anyone else seen any other reactions to the new Guard codex?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:13:28 No.55681203 Report

Quoted By: >>55681222 >>55681224 >>55681255

Can I shoot at a C'tan whos behind three tomb blades but showing his head over them? Asking for a friend

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:14:47 No.55681211 Report

Quoted By: >>55681221 >>55681261

>>55681202
Did you salvage anything?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:15:18 No.55681215 Report

Quoted By: >>55681221 >>55681261

>>55681202
Loot and scoot anon. Time is of the essence.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:15:46 No.55681219 Report

Quoted By:

Someone post that IG vs DG battlereport.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:15:49 No.55681221 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681211
>>55681215
You ain't salvaging shit in a GW-store fire

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:15:50 No.55681222 Report

Quoted By: >>55681232 >>55681255 >>55681315

>>55681203
Does he have 10 or more wounds on his profile? If yes then yes.
If no then no.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:16:01 No.55681224 Report

Quoted By: >>55681232 >>55681255

>>55681203
yes
he doesn't even get a cover save

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:18:04 No.55681232 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681222
>>55681224
Thanks fellas

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:22:09 No.55681255 Report

Quoted By: >>55681260

>>55681203
>>55681222
>>55681224
this shit needs to be changed. it's weird as fuck.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:23:22 No.55681260 Report

Quoted By: >>55681275

>>55681255
Rule writers got lazy and decided that they would simplify the rules beyond the point of return and called it a game feature.
>This is your beloved nuGW

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:23:27 No.55681261 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681215
>>55681211
>possibly arson
>thus crime scene
>removing stuff from a crime scene

That's a nice way to get reamed by the cop on the left.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:25:36 No.55681275 Report

Quoted By: >>55681290 >>55681291 >>55681311

>>55681260
Blame autistic players that would argue to hell and back about whether or not a model is % obscured.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:27:03 No.55681283 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680324
You could always just use shade in the recesses.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:27:30 No.55681290 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681275
Trust me I'm just as mad at them for forcing GW to go from one extreme to the next but it would be nice if they had a less autistic fanbase and the rules could comfortably sit in the middle.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:27:37 No.55681291 Report

Quoted By: >>55681314

>>55681275
>be in cover
>cover absorobs bullets and shit
>be behind cover but not in it
>"-noclip"
Why though

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:29:16 No.55681301 Report

Quoted By: >>55682022 >>55682086

>>55680604
First, let's compare what tanks benefit from which rules.

>Battle Cannon
Cadians are better (assuming you don't give it 3 heavy flamers and blitzkrieg across the board). Cadians get 2.04 hits on average (assuming BS 4+) while catachans get 1.85.
(If anyone wants to know my math you can ask)

>Demolisher
Similar to the Battle cannon, according to my math rerolling ones is better than rerolling the number of shots, however, due to the short range of the demolisher you may be more inclined to move it forward, which would make the Catachan doctrine better.

>Eradicator
A combination of the previous explanations. It's D6 shots at 36" range, not as short ranged as the demolisher but you could take it into consideration.

>Executioner
Another tank with D6 shots at 36" range, but this is a plasma cannon. I'd prefer being able to reroll ones if I overcharge 2D6 shots. I'd use this tank for a Cadian regiment or with a babysitting tank commander.

>Exterminator
Fixed number of shots, Catachan doctrine is worthless here (unless you take flamer or plasma sponsons)

>Punisher
Fixed number of shots

>Vanquisher
Fixed number of shots

In conclusion, the Cadian doctrine is better for letting the enemy come to you and gunning them down along the way, while the Catachan doctrine is better if you plan to be on the offensive.

Finally, you could consider using the Valhallan doctrine.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:30:19 No.55681306 Report

Quoted By: >>55681620 >>55681637

>>55681202
Sup Brisbane anon, where are heading to play with your toysoldiers now?

Also, my "Catachans" are tickled pink with the new book.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:30:45 No.55681310 Report

Quoted By: >>55681533

Would you preffer to play against a FW R&H army or a codex guard R&H army?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:30:51 No.55681311 Report

Quoted By: >>55681335

>>55681275
>implying it was ever a problem
That was just a loud minority

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:31:17 No.55681314 Report

Quoted By: >>55681348

>>55681291
We can't have it taking a whole 10 seconds to determine if a unit is in cover now. We gotta be "streamlined".

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:31:30 No.55681315 Report

Quoted By: >>55681323

>>55681222
Thats cool. So even If I can't see a 10+ wounds model because he has chaff in front of him I can shoot him?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:32:51 No.55681323 Report

Quoted By: >>55681347

>>55681315
Assume the other units aren't there when targeting 10+ wound models.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:33:57 No.55681335 Report

Quoted By: >>55681364 >>55681543

>>55681311
Loud minority or not they were still autistic players who would argue to hell and back over whether or not your unit was % obscured that was apparently loud enough for GW to take their autism into consideration.

I'm almost astonished that GW even provided rules for barricades.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:34:00 No.55681336 Report

Quoted By: >>55681350 >>55681370 >>55681401 >>55681639

Theres a local tournament going on where players play from day to day, and the only Ork player is already starting to snowball hard. Orks seems extremely stupid and strong, I sincerely dont understand how I can stop them. What should I do?
>inb4 stop playing

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:35:10 No.55681347 Report

Quoted By: >>55681357

>>55681323
Gotcha. What if he has 5 wounds but I can see him above the chaff? Like showing its head or a hand?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:35:26 No.55681348 Report

Quoted By: >>55681373

>>55681314
It should just be that you have to see anything that rests above the base, and vise versa. That way winged models aren't completely cucked by their sheer. With tanks it's anything on the main chassis. Anything extra does not count so sponsons, aerials, gun barrels etc don't cuck the tank.

Obviously these rules work both ways so a faggot can't act like his aerial can see an enemy model and can therefore shoot from that point.

This makes it fair for modellers who like to put lots of shit on their models.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:35:43 No.55681350 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681336
Get gud?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:37:15 No.55681357 Report

Quoted By: >>55681427

>>55681347
If he was in the open, charging towards you 5" away, then you'd have to target the dreadnought that's 4" away, that you can't see, instead.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:38:26 No.55681364 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681335
GW has been pulling retard stuff since 4th.

Their proper rule writters left long ago and the new ones have been riding on the shoulders of the guys that did previous edition

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:39:11 No.55681370 Report

Quoted By: >>55681400

>>55681336
Use cover. If you get first turn pop smokes on your tanks (don't shoot with them) so the Ork player is forced to remain stationary with his vehicles and tankbustas. Make sure your infantry is deployed in cover. Take pot shots for the time being. Once he's started to advance you can drop the hammer on his boys and then clean up the vehicles. He'll want to use his boys to secure objectives but he can't since you've killed a lot of them. Once it's your second turn then you can start picking off his vehicles.

Smokes WILL save your bacon. Use them.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:39:45 No.55681373 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681348
Repeat after me class:
8th is the best and most balanced edition yet.

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YOU GUYS SHOULD TRY LOTR SBG Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:42:07 No.55681388 Report

Quoted By: >>55681522 >>55681548

HEY GUYS YOU SHOULD TRY LOTR SBG
It is one of the few decent rule systems GW has at the moment.
If you like it speak to some mates about porting 40k units into it. That's what we did, be smart and don't be a retard, jump ship!

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:43:59 No.55681400 Report

Quoted By: >>55681409 >>55681412

>>55681370
Thank you, but usually the dude uses billions of Boyz and Bikerz and not many vehicles, he uses Da Jump on turn 1 and you have 40 Boyz that are in your face ready to chew your face. Btw, my fault, didnt tell it on the first post, Im a Dark Eldar player

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:44:04 No.55681401 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681336
While true that doesn't mean much.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:45:42 No.55681409 Report

Quoted By: >>55681466

>>55681400
Sad to say it but you probably play the army most vulnerable to orks.

You *need* the first round to stand any chance.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:46:33 No.55681412 Report

Quoted By: >>55681466

>>55681400
If he does that then you need to stay right at your table edge. Don't position your shit at the edge of your deployment zone or you play right into his hands. Bring a fuck ton of anti infantry.

Pray tell what army do you play? How is your army composited?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:47:33 No.55681417 Report

Quoted By: >>55681430 >>55681435 >>55681437

Quick question.

The wording on this seems very convoluted.
So long as my army is Battleforged, I can get my dogma for relative units that have the same dogma.

I can include a Culexus Assassin in my list because it is Imperium and still get my dogma, obviously the Culexus Assassin won't, but they way it reads he won't hamper the rest of my AdMech units from getting their dogma, correct?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:48:33 No.55681427 Report

Quoted By: >>55681439

>>55681357
Got it, last question: if its my firing phase, and I wanted to shoot a guy with 5 wounds standing on a rock in his base and with his hand high (or head), and this guy has 6 chaos marines in front, can I shoot at that dude or I have to fire at the chaos marines?

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:49:42 No.55681430 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681417
It's not even remotely convoluted, so long as every unit in a detachment shares the same forge world keyword then the units in that detachment benefit from the dogma. Yes you can bring assassins but they have to be in a separate detachment.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:50:38 No.55681435 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681417
>army must be battleforged
>Detachment must be a forgeworld XXXX detachment to gain bonuses
Its the same as every other faction bonus.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:50:41 No.55681437 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681417
You need your Culexus in a separate detachment for any of your AdMech to get the dogma.

Basically they're so autistic that if an outsider comes along with them for the fight the AdMech will have a meltdown and won't oprate correctly. But if that outsider is still an outsider who just happens to be fighting with them, then they won't have a meltdown and will just do their shit as normal.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:50:53 No.55681439 Report

Quoted By: >>55681528

>>55681427
If the CSM are closer you have to fire at them.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 11:55:19 No.55681466 Report

Quoted By: >>55681509

>>55681409
>>55681412
With De I can easily destroy his vehicles but all the rest is a big problem..
I change my lists very often, but usually I tend to use 2 Ravagers, 2 or 3 Venoms with Kabalites, 1 Raider with Kabalites, 1 Raider with Wyches. Usually these are something that I always bring in 8th edition. I tried with other players my beloved Grotesques, units that I always used against Orks, but they were really underperforming.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:02:00 No.55681502 Report

Quoted By: >>55681514 >>55681529 >>55681553 >>55681753

So how are you guys dealing with the guard problem at your FLGS?

We've put a blanket ban on anybody starting Guard and bandwagoning . If a player already played Guard they have to play full WYSIWYG, including their regiment. So no Cadians as Mordians etc. Gotta converst those. They also have to submit their lists for review by our club founders before they're allowed to play.

Stops the worst of the excesses.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:02:00 No.55681503 Report

Quoted By: >>55681511 >>55681519 >>55681532 >>55681589

Here's a quick reference guide for you /tg/

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:03:04 No.55681509 Report

Quoted By: >>55681742

>>55681466
You need a lot of splinter and shredder shit. You can't really try to outmanouevre a blob of Orks, so you basically need to remain static and gun them down. If that doesn't work then you will need to play a different army or just refuse to play against him.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:03:20 No.55681511 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681503
>Best edition evar

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:03:32 No.55681514 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681502
Woah you guys sound real fun. Gosh I wish I could play in such a wonderful and fun lot as you.
Congratulations for growing the mightiest neck beards and wearing the fanciest fedoras you basement dwelling creeps.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:04:07 No.55681519 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681503
No because the rule says "Closest visible enemy"

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:04:35 No.55681522 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681388
Fuck off nerd.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:05:04 No.55681528 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681439
Thanks a lot man

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:05:09 No.55681529 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681502
This false flag is too obvious. Try being more subtle next time.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:05:26 No.55681532 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681503
Someone post that assassin pic

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:05:37 No.55681533 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681310
Deciding whether to be Hitler or a WAACfag. It's a hard choice.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:07:30 No.55681543 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681335
I'm not sure designing a game towards the worst excesses of the lowest common denominator players is a good idea, but everyone seems to be guzzling this shit up by the looks of it.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:08:31 No.55681548 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681388

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:09:55 No.55681553 Report

Quoted By: >>55681588

>>55681502
Banning people starting new armies sounds like a good way for a store to go out of business.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:10:12 No.55681555 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679029
/tg/, I want to play IG but the cheesiness of the army will probably piss people off. Wat do?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:11:14 No.55681563 Report

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/thread

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:14:20 No.55681586 Report

Quoted By: >>55681660 >>55681702

Can a single detachment be made of several different <REGIMENTS>?

Can a battle-forged army consist of several diff <REGIMENT> detachments like a <CADIAN> patrol detachment and another <MORDIAN> patrol detachment?

Can these then use all their respective unique regiment rules and strategems?

I've got a guard player who has been asking suspicious questions like these, and I think he plans to do terrible things in the near future. Please help me know my enemy.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:14:24 No.55681588 Report

Quoted By: >>55681667

>>55681553
As soon as you let WAAC players into a club you're fucked anyway as they drive everyone else out with their bullshit , then abandon the game when they get bored of it anyway as they have no love for the lore, modelling or community side of the game and just want to prove how big their wargaming penis is. Not to mention they only ever buy China forge, dtripped eBay armies or online discounted stuff and never support their local stores.

Likewise anyway going out to buy a brand new guard army now when they've had 7 other editions to do it is almost definitely a WAACfag so it's an easy choice to ban them.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:15:12 No.55681589 Report

Quoted By: >>55681597 >>55681648 >>55682172

>>55681503
The Dreadnought doesn't stop them from shooting at the character if it's not visible to them

Here though is a case I saw last week: A Space Marine Predator had a Genestealer Patriarch in front of it backed up by a unit of Purestrains. The Patriarch was the closest MODEL to the tank, but there were Purestrain models hidden from the tank's sight by a wall that were closer to the tank

Should the Tank be able to shoot at the Patriarch here? Personally I thought the Genestealers unit itself being both closer AND visible should have meant the Patty was protected, but the people playing decided to let the tank single it out.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:16:22 No.55681597 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681589
*The Patriarch was the closest VISIBLE MODEL to the tank

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:18:06 No.55681618 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681202
OH what the fuck I know that store owner.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:18:12 No.55681620 Report

Quoted By: >>55681637 >>55681650

>>55681306

I pretty much only play at Ace Comics and Games over in Annerley these days. I've been to Mt Gravatt a few times but never got a good vibe from there. Some very cool conversions there though, and the game room is (or at least, was) second to none.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:19:46 No.55681628 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681202
Yeah my flgs has legitimately closed down as well.

When will WAAC guard players stop their reign of tyranny ?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:20:00 No.55681632 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:20:43 No.55681637 Report

Quoted By: >>55681650

>>55681202
>>55681306
>>55681620
That's too far for me, my cloest stores are either Irrestiable forces or Mt gravatt, feels bad mang half an hour drive either way.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:20:49 No.55681639 Report

Quoted By: >>55681658

>>55681336

Describe what he's using. If he's taking Green Tide (loads of Boyz) which is the only way he should be snowballing, then we need to know what factions you've got. I've taken Green Tide lists against Sisters and Guard and gotten completely stomped both times. Sisters just spammed Bolter squads with Heavy Bolter squads backed up with Imagifiers all over the place for free shooting phases. Guard just takes tanks, and Punishers + Stormlord = dead tide. Pask in a Punisher almost deletes a Boyz squad each turn by himself. Wrap tanks with Conscripts to deny Da Jump assaults on Tanks and it's pretty much impossible to lose.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:22:05 No.55681646 Report

Quoted By:

>>55679945
It's hard to say based on those options since you can have them all cover essentially the same options particularly between the Relic Contemptor and Venerables. The Contemptor is definitely a tougher venerable with better saves and wargear options but if you are looking at the same weapons that a Venerable can take I'd just go with the cheaper option and squeeze out some points for another dread somewhere.
The Deredo I think would depend on if you want to go for a gunline at this point since he has a 5+ invulnerable save for anyone within 6 inches of him. You could then use your remaining points to stick 2 venerable dreadnoughts in there and make them pretty difficult to shift. The Deredo could also allow you to hit flying units easily covering an issue most vanilla dreads would have.
The Chaplains retinue should be geared for close combat due to the buff you get for having two ccw on him. So i'd say give him two Ironclads with chainfist/ccw options so you don't have to worry about the -1 to hit of the seismic hammer. Unless of course you really need to deal 5 damage per unsaved wound.
Running with some basic loadouts on the Chaplain, Deredo, and two Ironclads you wind up at 776 points so you could realistically get another Venerable, Contemptor, or another Deredo plus some upgrades with your left over points.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:22:11 No.55681648 Report

Quoted By:

>>55681589
The tank cannot shoot at the patriarch because the entire unit of Genestealers is visible for shooting purposes. This rule will remain until the player removes genestealers as casualties. If he removes the 6 out of cover then the patriarch becomes a target to a model behind the Predator since the genestealers are no longer visible. If he removes the genestealers in cover then the patriarch becomes a target to another model behind the Predator since it is the closest visible unit.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:22:26 No.55681650 Report

Quoted By: >>55681670

>>55681620
>Ace Comics and Games
Fair enough, I've been into the city GW a few times now but I'm not a big fan. Probably stick to the clubs further north and wait for events desu.

>>55681637
I'm in Newfarm bro, could be worse.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:22:48 No.55681657 Report

Quoted By:

>>55680696

I remember Forge World design notes saying they're based off French and Belgian forces.

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:23:02 No.55681658 Report

Quoted By: >>55681703

>>55681639
Just run guard is pretty much the answer to every other list at the moment.

I'm excited for the in-depth guard Vs guard metagame developing

Anonymous Tue 03 Oct 2017 12:23:35 No.55681660 Report

Quoted By: >>55681699

>>55681586

A battle-forged army can indeed have multiple detachments of different regiments. You can have a <tallarn> tank detachment and a <catachan> infantry detachment, for example, and still be battle-forged.

You can also have both <catachan> and <tallarn> units in the same detachment. However...

You canNOT have <catachan> and <tallarn> units in the SAME detachment and keep your regimental doctrines. Those go away when you mix in other regimental units.

The only non-regiment units you can add to a detachment whilst keeping your regimental doctrines are auxilla (abhumans, basically), tempestus, psykana, mechanicum, aeronautica...and something else I forget. These units are always attached to foreign regiments anyway, so mixing them in won't dilute your regimental doctrine. They do not, however, receive the regimental doctrines themselves since they lack the keyword to do so.

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