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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 18:45:35 2017 No.56112771 View View Reply Original Report

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Death Guard Edition

>Daily Duncan Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1QJazEHMUo

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata#40k-errata

>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
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https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
>Old Black Library Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:47:05 No.56112793 Report

Quoted By: >>56112835 >>56113104 >>56113865

>>56112771
traps are not gay

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:47:16 No.56112797 Report

Quoted By: >>56112824 >>56112835 >>56113038 >>56113059 >>56113065 >>56113097 >>56113813

First for Sisters.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:47:28 No.56112801 Report

Quoted By: >>56112825

>Canadians are different to Americans

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:47:40 No.56112809 Report

Quoted By: >>56112860 >>56112935

Want to make a Death Guard/Daemons list.

What should I put in it?

I'm thinking Mortarion, 3 Spitters Bloat Drones, a Daemon Prince of Nurgle and then some daemons.

Epidimus certainly. Some heralds to buff Mortarion and the Bloat Drones. Maybe a great unclean one? Some plaguebearers maybe? Nurglings? Plague Drones?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:48:18 No.56112817 Report

Quoted By: >>56112859

Reminder there is no proof that 40k 8th edition = ITC house rules

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:48:45 No.56112824 Report

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>>56112797
Sisters are for kisses.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:48:52 No.56112825 Report

Quoted By: >>56114295

>>56112801
What is the difference?
Muricans are fatter?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:49:10 No.56112828 Report

Quoted By: >>56112912 >>56113004 >>56113922

Anyone have a fun weekend game?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:49:47 No.56112834 Report

Quoted By: >>56112861

>>56112813
Wait does that mean each different type of Daemons will be getting a codex

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:49:53 No.56112835 Report

Quoted By: >>56113058 >>56113072

>>56112793
>>56112797
Sisters are best.

Chaos get out!

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:50:47 No.56112849 Report

Quoted By: >>56112868 >>56113063 >>56115091

Happy weekend, 40kg. Reposting my battle report from Wednesday night, enjoy/hate at you leisure.

+++ARMIES+++

Given the unfortunate over-nerfing of commissars the other day, I retooled my go-to list to fill the gaping hole left by the loss of the center of morale for my infantry. I retired the commissar lord, who was now basically just an overpriced Ld 9 aura that shoots his own guys, and replaced him with a generic Specialist Inquisitor with stock gear and the Mental Fortitude psychic power. I also dropped all my HKs to afford a Primaris Psyker for Psychic Barrier. Final composition was:

>2 company commander, 1 primaris psyker, 1 inquisitor
>3 conscripts units at 25 each
>3 infantry squads with plasma guns, mounted in chimeras
>3 veteran squads with 3 plasma guns, mounted in chimeras
>3 armored sentinels with missile launchers
>2 leman russ executioners, no sponsons
>1 heavy bolter squad

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:03 No.56112854 Report

Quoted By: >>56112869 >>56112878 >>56112879 >>56112881 >>56112885 >>56112960 >>56113017 >>56113528 >>56114617

>Post yfw nid codex has useless chapter tactics and all the upgrades are horrendously overpriced

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:28 No.56112859 Report

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>>56112817
Except that there are no ITC house rules because the ITC guys work for GW now, they literally just work with the actual designers to write the rules.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:32 No.56112860 Report

Quoted By: >>56113088

>>56112809
Mortarion is a newb trap.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:36 No.56112861 Report

Quoted By: >>56112915

>>56112834
Slaanesh codex when?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:44 No.56112866 Report

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Any scans of the new ynnari rules yet?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:52 No.56112868 Report

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>>56112849

Space Wolves adjusted their list from last game 2 weeks ago and went transport heavy. That I recall, he fielded:

>bloodclaws in rhino
>4x grey hunters in razorbacks
>a runepriest and the sw techmarine
>vindicator
>whirlwind
>Primaris transport
>lascannon predator

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:51:59 No.56112869 Report

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>>56112854

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:52:29 No.56112878 Report

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>>56112854

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:52:30 No.56112879 Report

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>>56112854
I won't need to because that isn't the case.

Let's have this talk again in a week after you shit your pants.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:52:38 No.56112881 Report

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>>56112854
>nid codex
>chapter tactics

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:52:51 No.56112885 Report

Quoted By: >>56113180

>>56112854
Fuck this, post YFW nids are horribly overpowered and you finally get to be called WAAC for playing them.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:53:10 No.56112895 Report

Quoted By: >>56112914 >>56114043

>>56112868

+++DEPLOYMENT+++

It takes me a while to get my army organized out of its cases, so I let him set up the table any way he liked while I started sorting minis into units. He went surprisingly terrain light, and I asked him if that’s what he wanted since my army likes fighting in open spaces. He said yes. The rolled mission was Relic.

I won the rolloff for choice of deployment and went with the diagonals one, since I had yet to play it. He finished deployment first and got the +1 to go first, which is how the store now recommends the first turn be determined. Personally I preferred the old way with smaller armies going first, but apparently GW hadn’t made transports bad enough yet and removed one of the best reasons for taking them. Oh well.

I set up a chimera gunline in 2 groups, with the russes on the right side where they were most likely to get LOS down the center. Conscripts and sentinels went in front to screen the rest of my army from fast charges, with the officers behind them in the center to get the most utility out of their buffs.

He rolled a 6 for first turn, which I could not tie. SW would go first.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:53:30 No.56112900 Report

Quoted By: >>56112906

I want to start a Krieg army.
I'll buy the platoon box from FW, and the command squad with the superior officer. That will be the core of my army. 1 Marshal, 1 Officer, 2 Command Squads, 4 Infantry Squads and 2 Heavy Weapons Squad.

But then what ? Why do I get next to bring honor to the Emperor on the tabletop battlefields ?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:54:21 No.56112906 Report

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>>56112900
cyborg horses

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:54:23 No.56112907 Report

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what's a good audiobook/youtube channel to get started with 40k lore. i'd prefer to be able to listen to the lore section of the core rulebook while i paint, but i imagine that's not an option.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:54:36 No.56112912 Report

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>>56112828
Actually I did, I tried out a land raider excelsior with salamander's mantle against craftworlds with the new points values.
2 notes, T9 land raider is very good, but it almost got 1 shotted by eldar meltas
also, eldar is much cheaper and is very good now. even with us both taking lists to try things out, eldar is very cheap and has great synergy.
>granted the eldar player is MUCH better at the game than I and he ended up winning with board control

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:54:38 No.56112914 Report

Quoted By: >>56112927 >>56112942

>>56112895

+++TURN 1+++

All the rhinos rolled forward, two directly towards the relic and three along the left side. The whirlwind just hunkered down to start bombarding from the backfield, and the predator also moved up to get better shots on the russes. His elite transport had some kind of marker light majigger on it which added +1 to the predator’s rolls to hit, which he used to excellent effect to almost one-round a russ. Some followup shooting from a razorback finished the battle tank off no problem, leaving a scorched, laser- and bullet-ridden hulk burning beside its squadron mate. The razorbacks all unlaod their stormbolters and assault cannons into the nearest conscript unit, shredding the Ash Waste militia into pulpy meat. Whirlwind shells rain down from above, blowing mean (and escher gangers) apart. Despite the torrent, the stern gaze of the Inquisitor and the Take Cover stratagem keep the conscripts from breaking to severely.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:54:52 No.56112915 Report

Quoted By: >>56112966 >>56112977

>>56112861
>Slaanesh
>not getting squatted by Ynnari
Hahahahahaha

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:55:44 No.56112927 Report

Quoted By: >>56112942 >>56112943 >>56112958

>>56112914

The Company Commander order the forward conscript platoon into the ruins center, which after advancing places them within 3” of the relic. Meanwhile, the mechanized captain orders all his veterans to unload from their chimeras, forming regimented firing lines with their plasma rifles and lascarbines. The infantry captain orders the advanced conscripts to MOVE MOVE MOVE, which they successfully pass, seizing the relic and then hastily running back with it in hand to the safety of the forming Imperial gunline. The fear in them is palpable as Astartes targeting lasers drift over their retreating backs.

Fortunately for them, the Imperial return volley is robust. The Vindicator is focused down by a hail of krak missiles from the tankhunter sentinels and chimeras behind them, and the plasma veterans spread some damage around on the razorbacks. All the marines inside remain safe, however, and ominous howling echoes across No Man’s Land as the space vikings prepare for their glorious charge.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:56:25 No.56112935 Report

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>>56112809
GUO is bad unfortunately, not durable enough for it's cost, and too slow to make a big impact.

Nurglings make great early game speedbumps but they'll get wiped in short order and probably give up first blood, also decent objective sitters because of how cheap they are.

Plaguebearers are fine but I'm a bigger fan of poxwalkers, a bit cheaper and immune to morale so they're better for objective sitting which is what Plaguebearers usually do anyway.

Plague Drones are good though possibly redundant if you're already taking Bloats.

You should also get some Plagueburst Crawlers, those things are ace especially in an Epidemius list. Easily the most cost efficient Death Guard unit.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:57:04 No.56112942 Report

Quoted By: >>56112949 >>56112972

>>56112914
>>56112927

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:57:07 No.56112943 Report

Quoted By: >>56112958 >>56112972

>>56112927

+++TURN 2+++

The bloodclaws jump out of their vehicle, eager to cut down some opponents in combat, while the rest of the transports play conservative and move up closer to the Imperial lines without disembarking just yet. Crew-served bolt weapons rip into the conscript units once again, though the priority retreating unit with the relic is boosted by both Take Cover and Psychic Barrier, preserving a great many from certain doom. More artillery shells land in their number, tearing men asunder, but the survivors keep their prize held tightly close and run through a gap in the mechanized line the chimera crew have left open for them. The bloodclaws unload their pistols before ramming into the conscript unit ordered up to delay their advance, and hack down a dozen of them, terrifying another 5 into abandoning the battle.

The order is given to fall back, and all three Militia units form firing lines in front of the regular Steel Legion infantry. Take Aim! And FRF orders are given, and a truly ravaging fusillade stops the SW advance dead in its tracks. The Bloodclaws are killed to a man from salvo after salvo of heavy bolter rounds, and massed overcharged plasma fire explodes a Grey Hunter transport, forcing the marines to disembark and meet the same fate, falling dead before they can even take 4 steps from the access ramps. The dust clears, the scent of charred flesh and burning promethium in the air where it mingles with the cries of the mortally wounded. Power-armored skeletons lie strewn all over the field, their seared remains still smoldering. Only the Runepriest remains alive amongst all his dead brethren.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:57:36 No.56112949 Report

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>>56112942
kys

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:58:25 No.56112958 Report

Quoted By: >>56113009

>>56112927
>>56112943

your format is horrible, ingest bleach

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:58:30 No.56112960 Report

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>>56112854

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:58:33 No.56112962 Report

Quoted By: >>56113037

Has anybody heard if they plan to make a 40k skirmish ruleset like they did with AoS?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:58:48 No.56112966 Report

Quoted By: >>56112984 >>56113892 >>56113955

>>56112915
>Ynnead roflstomps Slaanesh
>Eldar pantheon sans Khaine and Isha back to normal
>Malice steps in to fill the void left by Slaanesh getting shift-delet'd from the warp
Would this be a good thing?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:59:10 No.56112972 Report

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>>56112943

+++TURN 3+++

The SW aren’t ready to let that slide without payback, and thrust their survivors into the breach. Rhinos gun their engines straight over the bodies of their fallen comrades, closing the distance as fast as possible to tear some holes in that mechanized firing line. A transport pulls up and spins sideways, offering its side armor as cover for the wounded runepriest. He channels his psychic talents and...hears the voices of daemons in his head, feeling the perils of the warp (box cars). He suffers 2 wounds as nightmares plague his waking vision and rend his sanity. More conscripts are felled by the crew-served bolt weapons, the inspiring (and terrifying) presence of the officers keeps them in line. On the right flank, the Predator drills another pair of holes in the surviving russ, dropping it dangerously close to dead.

The Steel Legion retaliates with unbridled fury, finishing the job with merciless overwhelming firepower. Three rhinos are destroyed by overcharging plasma burst, and all three explode, sending flaming debris into the disembarking survivors of the wrecks. Half a dozen Astartes never even make it from their vehicles as their ammo racks cook off inside of them, fuels tanks erupting is gouts of flame. The barking of lascarbines rips across the field, saturating the center ruins and turning it into a slaughterhouse. Not one marine leaves that chapel alive.

At this point we call it since the rest of the game is basically a formality. The conscripts have successfully run out of whirlwind range with the relic, and my infantry all mount up in their chimeras to give chase to the few surviving wolves.

>>56112942
I'm going to post, and I'm going to enjoy it, and you can't stop me. How does that feel, my friend?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:59:18 No.56112977 Report

Quoted By: >>56112990

>>56112915
>implying squatted
>implying Jeremy Vetock didn't already spoil that the studio is working on Slaanesh models
>implying it isn't confirmed Fulgrim is getting a model
>implying they would release a Daemon Primarch without his Legion when they already updated Thousand Sons and Death Guard with Magnus and Mortarion

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 18:59:49 No.56112984 Report

Quoted By: >>56113012

>>56112966
Slaanesh a best.

Fuck off Eldarfags.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:00:15 No.56112990 Report

Quoted By: >>56113011

>>56112977
>>implying it isn't confirmed Fulgrim is getting a model
Citation needed

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:00:52 No.56112999 Report

Quoted By: >>56113030 >>56113140

Chaos Gods tier list.

Nurgle>Khorne>Slaanesh>Tzeentch

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:01:10 No.56113004 Report

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>>56112828
>Look forward to to weekend games all week
>Don't actually go in and spend the day in bed instead
No. I'm not even sure why not.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:01:28 No.56113009 Report

Quoted By: >>56113064 >>56113066 >>56113118

>>56112958

No plans regarding bleach, but I would take constructive criticism of the format. What's wrong with it?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:01:35 No.56113011 Report

Quoted By: >>56113023

>>56112990
Gathering Storm streams nigger, they said yes we're doing models for all of the Daemon Primarchs being mentioned in the narrative, hey hint hint who's that big snake guy being hinted at hint?!?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:01:35 No.56113012 Report

Quoted By: >>56113029 >>56113044

>>56112984
Not even an Eldarfag, though. I just want Fulgrim getting his shit slapped and the Ynnari are the best way for this to happen.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:01:49 No.56113017 Report

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>>56112854

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:02:19 No.56113023 Report

Quoted By: >>56113034

>>56113011
So how long has your uncle worked at GW?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:02:29 No.56113026 Report

Quoted By: >>56113154

>>56112771
What is the ideal base size for the soldiers? 1 inch? 32mm?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:02:44 No.56113029 Report

Quoted By: >>56113115

>>56113012
>hating Fulgrim

Why?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:02:45 No.56113030 Report

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>>56112999
Any order is acceptable as long as khorne is shit tier.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:03:26 No.56113034 Report

Quoted By: >>56113086

>>56113023
Never, I just watch the videos where they tell us this stuff to our faces publically that are on the internet available as proof, you goddamn retard lol

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:03:41 No.56113037 Report

Quoted By: >>56113167 >>56115954

>>56112962
Didn't know they had. What was different about the AOS skirmish rules (just to get an idea of what might be possible for 40k skirmish) out of interest? My feeling is with the patrol detachment being a thing "40k in 40 minutes" is possible anyway, but I'm not sure if that's what was meant by skirmish.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:03:44 No.56113038 Report

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>>56112797

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:03:46 No.56113039 Report

Quoted By: >>56113077 >>56113149

Are there any good mono-Khorne builds?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:04:09 No.56113044 Report

Quoted By: >>56113115

>>56113012
Fulgrim is best boy, you dirty queer.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:20 No.56113058 Report

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>>56112835
Neat, what she did the cellophane tho.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:24 No.56113059 Report

Quoted By: >>56113075 >>56113125

>>56112797
Ok, do you prefer this one or....

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:51 No.56113063 Report

Quoted By: >>56113091 >>56113119

>>56112849
Wait, there is something wrong with those leman russes.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:54 No.56113064 Report

Quoted By: >>56113111

>>56113009
I like the basing. What's the effect?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:54 No.56113065 Report

Quoted By: >>56113209

>>56112797
R.I.P.

They deserved better.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:05:56 No.56113066 Report

Quoted By: >>56113111

>>56113009
only use 1 turn picture instead of 2.

So what the board looks like at the begining of each turn at most. Having to switch back and forth from the post to the picture is disjoined

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:06:11 No.56113072 Report

Quoted By: >>56113128

>>56112835
>this is what sisters players and their broken homes look like
RIP

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:06:28 No.56113075 Report

Quoted By: >>56113125

>>56113059
...this one?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:06:38 No.56113077 Report

Quoted By: >>56113096 >>56113460

>>56113039
I have been working on and posting this list for a bit now. i think i need to replace the bloodthirster with the insensate rage for some AT. But the problem you are going to have is getting across the board to charge your enemies it seems. With no real way to soften them up since Skull cannons are actual shit.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:07:39 No.56113086 Report

Quoted By: >>56113099

>>56113034
>videos
I thought you said it was streams? Can you post the link with a Time stamp to this?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:07:58 No.56113088 Report

Quoted By: >>56113100 >>56113244

>>56112860
Tournament results say otherwise.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:08:21 No.56113091 Report

Quoted By: >>56113198

>>56113063
>leman russes.
>russes

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:08:44 No.56113096 Report

Quoted By: >>56113123

>>56113077

Nifty. It doesn't have to be Daemons-only either. I hear the WEs are getting new non-bunny ears 'zerkers.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:08:44 No.56113097 Report

Quoted By: >>56113108 >>56113835

>>56112797
Eh, might as well

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:08:51 No.56113099 Report

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>>56113086
They are streams, but the recordings are in the archive if you pay for the twitch subscription.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:08:51 No.56113100 Report

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>>56113088
You mean like how Thousand Sons* are top tier now?

*meaning only Magnus in chaos soup lists.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:09:28 No.56113104 Report

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>>56112793
FPBP

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:09:55 No.56113108 Report

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>>56113097

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:09:58 No.56113111 Report

Quoted By: >>56113183

>>56113066
Hmmm. You mean a picture for top of each battle round ,or top of each player turn? Instead of top of the big three phases?

>>56113064
Bases are painted with Zamri Dust, washed with agrax, drybrushed with Karak Stone and then drybrushed again with Flayed One Flesh.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:10:22 No.56113115 Report

Quoted By: >>56113215

>>56113029
Because the EC player at my shop is so autistic that I wish for his army to get squatted, that's why.

>>56113044
>Fulgrim apologists calling someone else a queer

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:10:30 No.56113118 Report

Quoted By: >>56113315

>>56113009
I have some criticism, not for your format but for your choice of army.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:10:43 No.56113119 Report

Quoted By: >>56113139 >>56113156 >>56113173

>>56113063
>>56113063
Why the fuck do his lemons have 4 tracks?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:10:54 No.56113123 Report

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>>56113096
Personally thinking about dropping the Skull cannons as they seem to do nothing at all.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:10:59 No.56113125 Report

Quoted By: >>56113175

>>56113075
>>56113059

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:11:14 No.56113128 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113072
if your army was all metal mini's going for $10-20 apiece, your home would be broken too!

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:11:40 No.56113137 Report

Quoted By: >>56113151 >>56113169

Does being exactly 9" count as being "within half range" of a weapon with an 18" range?

More specifically, can I Manta Strike a Commander in and have it use its Fusion Blasters at full power?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:05 No.56113139 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113119
Probably to denote Tank Commander.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:05 No.56113140 Report

Quoted By: >>56113166

>>56112999
>Actual God tier
Khorne
>Decent tier
Nurgle
>Awful Tier
Tzeentch
>Deserves to be killed by Ynead tier
Slaanesh

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:39 No.56113149 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113039
Daemons are garbage-tier as an army, one or two units might be ok in a primarily CSM list.

As for CSM Khorne isn't bad, Berserkers are one of the better units in the codex and World Eaters have decent stuff, but mono-Khorne will make you lose out on the great CSM psychic powers and the best stratagem in the codex (Endless Cacophony).

I don't think there is a legitimate TAC list in the Khorne toolbox right now, they lose out on too much that the CSM codex offers.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:44 No.56113151 Report

Quoted By: >>56113179

>>56113137
Yes to the first, no to the second. You have to be MORE THAN 9" away when manta-striking.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:46 No.56113154 Report

Quoted By: >>56113302

>>56113026
Oh, we dont play the game here, just shitpost.
P.S.: Imperium = Americhads

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:12:51 No.56113156 Report

Quoted By: >>56113421 >>56114156

>>56113119

Because I like them that way.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:01 No.56113161 Report

Quoted By: >>56113208

>>56113108
>The Chitose Protects*

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:13 No.56113166 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113140
>Not appearing in this IP-tier
Malal

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:18 No.56113167 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113037
They pretty much broke down each army, and took out more powerful things. You used the same rules from their normal army book but you treat each model as an independant unit. Armies are like 5-20 guys.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:21 No.56113169 Report

Quoted By: >>56113179

>>56113137
No because you have to be more than 9 when deepstriking. Pretty sure you can advance after deepstriking though and that would put you within 9.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:37 No.56113173 Report

Quoted By: >>56113432

>>56113119
Better traction and stability.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:13:52 No.56113175 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113125
Huh...

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:14:08 No.56113179 Report

Quoted By: >>56113191 >>56113199

>>56113151
Right, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification with 9", though.

>>56113169
Nearly certain you can't advance after deepstriking.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:14:19 No.56113180 Report

Quoted By:

>>56112885
Is..is there more to that?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:14:32 No.56113183 Report

Quoted By: >>56113196 >>56113206

>>56113111
player turn and maybe split the two up.

So post one photo for the beginning of player As turn and write what happened.

then post one photo for the beginning of player Bs turn and write what happened.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:15:11 No.56113191 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113179
>Nearly certain you can't advance after deepstriking.
You are correct, Advancing is done as part of your move in this edition, not separately, and you count as having already moved when you Deep Strike.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:15:15 No.56113193 Report

Quoted By:

I asked this in the last thread but I'll ask again here

What loadout would /tg/ recommend for ordian veteran squads?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:15:32 No.56113196 Report

Quoted By: >>56113218

>>56113183
...and keep it short so it's not fuckhuge wall of text

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:15:39 No.56113198 Report

Quoted By: >>56113210

>>56113091
Leman russi

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:15:47 No.56113199 Report

Quoted By: >>56113216

>>56113179
I guess that means you can't advance after outflanking because it says you must be within 7 of he board edge?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:16:23 No.56113206 Report

Quoted By: >>56113232

>>56113183

That would mean fewer pictures, so it would be difficult to reconstruct everything that happened over 5 phases from two pictures...but it would be fewer pictures and a lot less editing. I'll think about it.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:16:29 No.56113208 Report

Quoted By: >>56113220

>>56113161
Im glad I am not the only one to think that

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:16:34 No.56113209 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113065
Stop that right now.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:16:35 No.56113210 Report

Quoted By: >>56113261

>>56113198
>russi

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:17:05 No.56113215 Report

Quoted By: >>56113755

>>56113115
I have the same feels about nids I hate them because of retarded nidfag.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:17:07 No.56113216 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113199
You can't Advance after ANYTHING, Advancing doesn't come "after" anymore. It isn't like Run moves in 7th. Just read the rules it's like fucking 8 whole pages.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:17:17 No.56113217 Report

Quoted By: >>56113342 >>56115207 >>56116131

Are the Word Bearers any good this codex?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:17:26 No.56113218 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113196

Dude if you don't like to read just scroll and don't read it.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:17:44 No.56113220 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113208
Chitose is life, anon.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:18:22 No.56113228 Report

Quoted By: >>56113240 >>56113246

Can I use this eldar warlord trait that lets me snipe characters on a wraithseer?

>Cute character, see how he likes this d cannon

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:18:45 No.56113232 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113206
also reconsider that bleach.

:^)

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:19:23 No.56113240 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113228
By RAW yes, but expect it to get FAQ'd within two weeks just like the Guard dex, so you shouldn't bother.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:19:43 No.56113244 Report

Quoted By: >>56113268

>>56113088
He's only competitively good in the context of chaos soup so he can play Primarch Smash Brothers with Magnus.

On his own he is, at best, a Magnus who costs more base AND has to pay north of a hundred points to offload his Warptime casting to an off-Legion sorcerer who doesn't cast with a bonus like Magnus does.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:19:48 No.56113246 Report

Quoted By: >>56113260 >>56113263

>>56113228
I mean its not too different than an autarch with a reaper launcher.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:21:03 No.56113260 Report

Quoted By: >>56113274 >>56113279

>>56113246
I think they got rid of most of the autarch upgrades. I remember complaints from a guy who modeled his with a reaper launcher.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:21:07 No.56113261 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113210
>Lemans Russ
>Alemani Arussi
>Leman Ruxxes

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:21:29 No.56113263 Report

Quoted By: >>56113279 >>56113513

>>56113246
Autarch's cannot take Reaper Launchers anymore in the Codex and the playtesters confirmed on stream last night that GW is making Index weapon swaps illegal soon to stop exactly that sort of WAACfagging.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:21:47 No.56113268 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113244
Lascannon avocs fill a gap in the DG army so its not too bad to take them in a detachment and chaos familiar warp time on to him.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:22:28 No.56113274 Report

Quoted By: >>56113306 >>56113320

>>56113260
Anything that doesn't have a model is gonna get squatted.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:22:49 No.56113279 Report

Quoted By: >>56113293 >>56113306

>>56113263
>>56113260

You can take the index autarch with WJG and take a reaper launcher with him.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:23:45 No.56113293 Report

Quoted By: >>56113318 >>56113334

>>56113279
Until the FAQ where they disallow Codex benefits like Warlord traits on Index-only datasheets, yes. It's coming.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:24:00 No.56113298 Report

Quoted By: >>56113313 >>56113324

I love nuGW profit methods.
>make new codex
>something is stupidly OP
>WAACfags starts to buy OP thing
>wait some time
>nerf it hard so WAACfags need to buy new army
Anyone want to buy 300 conscripts or 6 riptides?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:24:25 No.56113302 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113154
>implying I don't measure 40k in my own island numerical system utilizing pig knuckles and human femurs

Get a load of this whiteskin, Um'tuk-tuk

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:24:42 No.56113306 Report

Quoted By: >>56113379

>>56113274
God I hate this shit. RIP customisation.>>56113279

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:21 No.56113313 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113298
It's genius. It makes the game better for the bro players and fucks over the WAACfags and milks them for profit so we can keep benefitting from GW having more money to throw around at new specialist games and cool shit.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:29 No.56113315 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113118

Well I've been playing this army for 18 years so good luck changing my mind on that one.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:32 No.56113318 Report

Quoted By: >>56113337

>>56113293
I see no indication of that happening. But i already have the model so i don't lose anything by playing it, anyways.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:38 No.56113320 Report

Quoted By: >>56113335 >>56113360

>>56113274
Which is weird, because simultaneously they are putting in units without models in new books. (GK chaplain, Exalted Champion, etc)

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:38 No.56113321 Report

Quoted By: >>56113365 >>56116179

For Chaos Space Marines, how do you best take advantage of the Renegades Legion trait? (You can advance and charge).

Feels like it's probably Berserkers but they feel like they belong in World Eaters more.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:48 No.56113323 Report

Quoted By: >>56113343 >>56113350

I know this gets asked a lot, but I just read that GW plans on having 10 codexes out by Christmas of this year, which is a lot. I know two of them are Eldar and Tyranid, but is there any news on what the remaining four codexes are going to be?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:25:49 No.56113324 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113298
I'll take 120 of those Conscripts for 2 Guillimans and a Celestine.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:26:38 No.56113334 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113293
I'll believe it when I see it, I haven't seen any solid evidence just hearsay which is close enough to heresy to be put down with a bolt pistol.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:26:51 No.56113335 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113320
GK Chaplain is the limited edition plastic terminator chaplain.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:26:56 No.56113337 Report

Quoted By: >>56113366

>>56113318
FLG Playtesters confirmed it in-stream last night. The video is on youtube. Someone in chat asked about index autarch weapons and they were like "yeah no you can't take that stuff, GW is going to release a more official statement on that." etc.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:27:12 No.56113342 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113217
Not really, which is sad.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:27:18 No.56113343 Report

Quoted By: >>56113359

>>56113323
>Remaining four

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:27:54 No.56113350 Report

Quoted By: >>56113359 >>56113361 >>56113367

>>56113323
>Marines
>CSM
>GK
>DG
>IG
>Eldar
>Nids

>>Remaining four codexes

Where did you learn how to count?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:28:44 No.56113359 Report

Quoted By: >>56113375

>>56113343
>>56113350
Sorry, I meant remaining two. It was a typo, I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

I'm assuming one is obviously Ork.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:28:49 No.56113360 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113320
Those aren't units without models, they're units that can be made from other model kits.

It's like, they're expanding pre-existing kits into dual-kits or triple-kits. All that's missing is the name of the new unit on the box. But all the bits are available.

Basically like when Codex: Genestealer Cults came out, and now you can buy the Genestealer box as Genestealers or Purestrain Genestealers. It's the same thought process.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:28:56 No.56113361 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113350
Oh and the toasterboys.

But they don't have transport options, so they hardly count.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:29:08 No.56113365 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113321
Untis that either dont shoot or have assault weapons.

Marines with flamers/meltas
Bikers with flamers/meltas
Raptors with flamers/meltas
Helbrutes with fist and power scourge
Berserkers
Noise marines
Possessed
Terminators with combi-meltas/flamers
Daemon princes and all other HQ choices with assault weapons

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:29:09 No.56113366 Report

Quoted By: >>56113388

>>56113337
im not gonna dig through videos to check. But they may be talking about something different than what i am. Alot of people are currently talking about take a codex autarch and just giving him the weapon load out.

But like i said, i have a combi-autarch magnetized so until its faq'd ill just play it as an index autarch with WJG.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:29:11 No.56113367 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113350
You forgot admech
It's okay, gw did too

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:29:52 No.56113375 Report

Quoted By: >>56113387

>>56113359
Orks are confirmed not until next year by the Chapter Approved preview.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:30:10 No.56113379 Report

Quoted By: >>56113403 >>56113415

>>56113306
Its really turning me off the game in general. Its already difficult to get parts now they are just flat out banning it in the rules.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:30:14 No.56113382 Report

Quoted By: >>56113406 >>56113408

With the way units split fire now, is it reasonable to have loadout for a squad of 3 war walkers with a shuriken cannon and a missile launcher or bright lance?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:30:49 No.56113387 Report

Quoted By: >>56113429

>>56113375
Alright. Are there any more confirmations regarding what the other books are or aren't?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:30:53 No.56113388 Report

Quoted By: >>56113417

>>56113366
That's fine I'm just giving you the heads up, if that's suddenly illegal in two weeks don't be too surprised.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:32:03 No.56113403 Report

Quoted By: >>56118362

>>56113379
I just hate how many conversions I'm gonna have to put on the shelf, and probably never get to use again.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:32:17 No.56113406 Report

Quoted By: >>56113486

>>56113382
It's MORE reasonable, but you still have differing ranges which can be bad.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:32:25 No.56113408 Report

Quoted By: >>56113486

>>56113382
Still better to specialise your units.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:32:47 No.56113415 Report

Quoted By: >>56113424 >>56113632

>>56113379
That's the tax you pay for playing filthy xenos. I can toss my cat in the bits box and remove him covered in every single marine wargear

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:33:19 No.56113417 Report

Quoted By: >>56113494

>>56113388
fair enough, i just hope there's no big changes like they did to commissars.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:33:28 No.56113421 Report

Quoted By: >>56113516

>>56113156
She Thicc as FUCK

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:33:44 No.56113424 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113415

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:34:11 No.56113429 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113387
Dark Eldar and Necrons are also not until next year. That's all we know for sure.

Rumour-wise there's a persistent one that Thousand Sons are "soon", and that T'au were supposed to get some sort of update "not a part of the main Empire" at the end of this year. Neither of those are confirmed but they're from good sources - however, sometimes things change, so even if those sources were correct months ago GW executives may have decided to adjust the schedule.

Primarch-wise we know Lion is next which means the Dark Angels Codex can't be far off, but that's probably not until next year as well.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:34:30 No.56113432 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113173

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:36:37 No.56113455 Report

Quoted By: >>56113469 >>56113475 >>56113650

How would sex with a Sister of Battle feel like ?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:37:12 No.56113460 Report

Quoted By: >>56113504

>>56113077
Skull Cannons are kinda lame in 8th. Also I run Bloodletters in units of 30 with Herald support. Makes them real killy and the opponent has to remove 10+ models to remove their bonus.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:37:34 No.56113469 Report

Quoted By: >>56114213

>>56113455
Like sex. With a muscular woman.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:38:02 No.56113475 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113455
Devout.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:38:24 No.56113486 Report

Quoted By: >>56113501 >>56113568 >>56113681

>>56113406
>>56113408
Buying six EML or bright lances for three light vehicles just seems like a dangerous investment of points. Like putting too many of my AT eggs in one basket.

I'd stick to just shuriken cannons, but I keep gravitating towards that choice as the optimal pick for every other unit. (Wraith lords, vypers, etc)

It's pretty easy to choose effective anti infantry kit for eldar, a bit hard to decide where to put anti tank weapons, IMO. Unless you're playing with aspect squads, obviously, but I'm trying to avoid those for ulthwe theme and less resin based disasters.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:39:21 No.56113494 Report

Quoted By: >>56113534

>>56113417
I don't expect Eldar to get nerfed that hard. People have been bitching about Commissars since Day 1 of the whole edition and they needed it. If anything gets hit in the Craftworld Codex FAQ it will be unintended combos or typos, like not allowing you to embark on transports after using Fire and Fade.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:40:11 No.56113501 Report

Quoted By: >>56113723

>>56113486
Acquire wraithguard for anti tank.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:40:29 No.56113504 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113460
Yea was thinking about dropping them. I wanted to use one of every type of unit But with an Average of 1.62 wounds against their preffered target with the gun they just wont make their points back ever. If i drop them then i Definitly can boost my Bloodletters up to 30 per unit. how many instruments/icons d oyou reccomend per unit?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:40:52 No.56113508 Report

Quoted By: >>56113518 >>56113539 >>56113557

Can you disembark after your transport falls back from melee?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:41:18 No.56113513 Report

Quoted By: >>56113527 >>56113560

>>56113263
Every generic HQ in the codex only has a shuriken pistol or a spear. The trait is dogshit if thats the case so they're wrong whoever they are.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:41:41 No.56113516 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113421
Tankers like their girls thicc. Thicc and fast, and will kick your ass!

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:41:52 No.56113518 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113508

You disembark before it moves, so no

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:42:28 No.56113527 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113513
They're 100% not wrong I assure you.

They've yet to be wrong about a thing GW was planning to fix or change.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:42:36 No.56113528 Report

Quoted By:

>>56112854
What the everloving fuck is that?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:43:18 No.56113534 Report

Quoted By: >>56113566

>>56113494
I think people were complaining about conscript spam rightfully so in my opinion and GW basically walks in a blams commissars instead of conscripts.

They could of just given conscripts a rule called wavering defenders, which made them take a reroll instead of an auto pass.

i don't even play guard and think the change was overly harsh

then i remember i hate guard, so fuck those guys :^)

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:43:30 No.56113539 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113508
No. Unless it's a Valkyrie.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:44:37 No.56113557 Report

Quoted By: >>56113592

>>56113508
second question, can you disembark if your transport is still in melee?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:45:00 No.56113560 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113513
I dunno, it's not great, but a Farseer with a singing spear on a jetbike will likely kill squishies, especially with mind war or executioner (or both).

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:45:28 No.56113566 Report

Quoted By: >>56113587

>>56113534
>I think people were complaining about conscript spam rightfully so in my opinion and GW basically walks in a blams commissars instead of conscripts.
It was the combination of the two that really made conscripts broken.

When susceptible to Morale you basically kill two conscripts for every one slain, making them effectively 6ppm instead of 3ppm which is no longer so ruthlessly efficient almost nothing in the game can make its point back.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:45:39 No.56113568 Report

Quoted By: >>56113723

>>56113486
When I stated eldar I bought some cheap finecast Fire Dragons. After that mistake... metal only from ebay

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:46:48 No.56113584 Report

Quoted By:

DAEMONS WHEN?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:46:59 No.56113587 Report

Quoted By: >>56113619

>>56113566
>It was the combination of the two that really made conscripts broken.

yea, thats what im saying. I just didn't find commissar interactions with other units broken.

Which is why i would have just changed conscripts.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:47:10 No.56113592 Report

Quoted By: >>56113613

>>56113557
Only if you can fit the passengers on the board within 3" of the transport without being placed within 1" of enemy models.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:48:10 No.56113613 Report

Quoted By: >>56113630

>>56113592
are they still free to shoot and act normally?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:48:42 No.56113619 Report

Quoted By: >>56113653

>>56113587
Then people would have just always taken infantry squads instead of conscripts. Now both are viable, the only thing that lost viability were Commissars and even then they can still be good with the right Warlord trait or Relic.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:49:44 No.56113630 Report

Quoted By: >>56113666

>>56113613
Yes, read the rules.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:49:49 No.56113632 Report

Quoted By: >>56113652

>>56113415
That just shows how little of a fuck about it they give when its one of the main draws of the game in general, hardly anyone even has options outside of SM in the first place. FW even does a better job at offering 40k shit just by osmosis.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:50:29 No.56113644 Report

Quoted By: >>56113657 >>56114065

So what do you think Jews Workshop will release now?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:50:35 No.56113650 Report

Quoted By: >>56113738

>>56113455
Like fucking a trap, but with a vagina.

Basically: -1 benis

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:50:45 No.56113652 Report

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>>56113632
>hardly anyone even has options outside of SM in the first place
>laughing Carnifexes.gif

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:50:46 No.56113653 Report

Quoted By: >>56113664

>>56113619
I thought infantry units were locked at 10?

At around 10 models, i don't think commissars would have the same impact they had on 30 man units of conscripts.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:51:06 No.56113657 Report

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>>56113644
/pol/ please leave

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:51:48 No.56113664 Report

Quoted By: >>56113691

>>56113653
They are to start with, but they can consolidate with the Stratagem.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:51:48 No.56113666 Report

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>>56113630
I did, just double checking with the gestalt mind.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:52:39 No.56113673 Report

Quoted By: >>56113687 >>56113700

>tfw you like your Death Guard
>tfw you want Nurgle Daemons
>tfw you want new Emperors Children
>tfw you want new generic undivided Chaos Space Marines

I want more stuff now!

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:53:23 No.56113681 Report

Quoted By: >>56113769 >>56113901

>>56113486
Lance War Walkers are good. Since they get 5++ they easily out shoot equal points of other vehicles.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:53:57 No.56113687 Report

Quoted By: >>56113697

>>56113673
>>tfw you want Nurgle Daemons
GW confirmed these are getting updated for AoS, right?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:54:23 No.56113691 Report

Quoted By: >>56113711 >>56113717

>>56113664
>run out of ideas for strategems
>i know, why don't we let them combine units!
>I don't see how this will ever become an issue!

lol, fucking GW.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:55:00 No.56113697 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113687
Its heavily hinted at.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:55:02 No.56113700 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113673
>>tfw you want new generic undivided Chaos Space Marines
This is going to be awhile, and when it happens, it will be Primaris Chaos. So be careful what you wish for.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:56:05 No.56113711 Report

Quoted By: >>56113749

>>56113691
Considering that it's a thing they've always been able to do for free, and now have to spend CP on, I'm not sure what you're bitching about.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:56:17 No.56113717 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113691
What, you don't remember the days of Combined Squads?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:56:34 No.56113723 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113501
Yeah, definitely thinking about those. They're pretty and look nice in black with red soul stones. Leaning towards cannons over scythes.

>>56113568
Yuck. I did ask myself "how bad could they be in fine cast? They're fairly stout shaped". Apparently not.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:56:54 No.56113730 Report

Quoted By: >>56113987

How bad is my list, /tg/?

Grey Knights: 2000/2000 points; 5 CP total

++ Vanguard Detatchement: ++

+ HQ: +
>Voldus

+ Elite: +
>4 Paladins with Halberds and a Hammer

>4 Paladins with Halberds and a Hammer

>Ven-Dread with Multimelta and Fist

>Ven-Dread with Lascannon and Missle Launcher

++ Spearhead Detatchement: ++

+ HQ: +
>Grandmaster with Soul Glaive

+ Heavy Support: +
>Purgation Squad with Psilencers

>Purgation Squad with Psilencers

>Land Raider Godhammer

+ Troops: +
>10 man Strike Squad with 2 Hammers and Halberds

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:56:56 No.56113731 Report

Quoted By:

If you have a gun with multiple shots firing at a phoenix gem equipped character, do you keep resolving shots if an earlier shot kills the character?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:57:38 No.56113738 Report

Quoted By: >>56113750 >>56113761

>>56113650
"Fuck me in the ass cause I love the Emperor, the good lord would want it this waaaaay"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv1gnug6HJ0

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:58:23 No.56113748 Report

Quoted By: >>56113770 >>56113797

What was its name again?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:58:38 No.56113749 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113711
Not that its overpowered or anything, its just something that can get out of hand very quickly when they continue to add more and more intricate rules. So GW has to always be aware of that interaction from here on out.

Basically it hampers rule design.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:58:39 No.56113750 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113738
Sad. Low energy.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:58:59 No.56113755 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113215
I hate space wolves for same reason.

I think past GW knew their audience very well because I liked TS and hated SW before knowing about the lore

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:59:19 No.56113758 Report

Quoted By: >>56113816 >>56113893 >>56113938 >>56114341 >>56114476

Post things you want to see

an inquisition Codex:
>have scions in it as stormtroopers
>make henchmen a super customizable unit with 3+ BS/WS, 2A
>can use any imperial vehicle and slap it with [ORDO]
>crusaders, death cultists, jokaero all get buffs to be more useful (not that DC are bad, just eh)
>fluffy alliance rules for daemonhunters, witchhunters, etc. with armies like sisters, GK and deathwatch
>cool buffs and stratagems that make you play however you want
I know we won't but I like the idea, who else desires this for their codexes?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 19:59:26 No.56113761 Report

Quoted By: >>56113774

>>56113738
Brunette's breasts are surprisingly good.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:00:29 No.56113769 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113681
Interesting. Yeah, a 5++ is very solid. That might be fun.

From what I hear, most eldar heavy weapons are fairly easily swappable, even without magnets?

I'm having fun looking at eldar units as I build this army. I've played humies of various flavors exclusively for a decade.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:00:38 No.56113770 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113748
SCREAMER

KILLER
I
L
L
E
R

"IT SCREAMS WHILE IT KILLS AND KILLS WITH ITS SCREAMS"

GET HYYYYYPE

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:00:57 No.56113774 Report

Quoted By: >>56113804

>>56113761
ikr, i was surprised when she whipped them out in the little hours.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:02:58 No.56113797 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb8JyKuKkJw

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:03:40 No.56113804 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113774
Had to top Riki's full nude scenes in Hell Baby and the Last House on the Left somehow.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:04:40 No.56113813 Report

Quoted By: >>56113821 >>56113830 >>56113837 >>56113906 >>56114133

>>56112797
WIPish
I am sorry, anon that hates all my stuff!
My phone camera sucks

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:04:58 No.56113816 Report

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>>56113758
The biggest thing blocking me from going back to inquisition since the GK codex broke them in 5th ed is that they basically ditch and rewrite their rules every half year. They're so unreliable and flux.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:05:23 No.56113821 Report

Quoted By: >>56113835

>>56113813
Oh god anon this is the worst one by far

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:06:53 No.56113830 Report

Quoted By: >>56114133

>>56113813
Digitize it, preferably in vector. I'd buy sticker prints.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:07:13 No.56113835 Report

Quoted By: >>56113852 >>56113957

>>56113821
Lol, nope>>56113097

But lets be real, traditional art looks bad when you dont know how to take pictures.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:07:23 No.56113837 Report

Quoted By: >>56113849

>>56113813
What is she chasing after?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:09:12 No.56113849 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113837
She is walking over dead orks, but I have to redraw and ink them

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:09:21 No.56113852 Report

Quoted By: >>56113864

>>56113835
Anon it is arguably better than that one. I have to disagree good art looks like good art no matter how you put it unless you horribly disfigure it.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:10:30 No.56113862 Report

Quoted By: >>56115317

For roughly the same point cost, should I take :

1 Malcador Annihilator with Twin Lascannons, Demolisher Cannon, 2 Autocannons and a Heavy Stubber

OR

One Leman Russ with Demolisher Cannon, 3 HBs and a Heavy Stubber
Plus one Hellhound with Inferno Cannon and Heavy Flamer.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:10:40 No.56113864 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113852
What anon is which?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:10:40 No.56113865 Report

Quoted By: >>56113897

>>56112793
Traps aren't gay, but you're gay if you like traps

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:10:45 No.56113866 Report

Quoted By: >>56113878 >>56113882 >>56113885

>>56112771
how much, would a 1850pts army cost, if I went with a low model army?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:11:56 No.56113878 Report

Quoted By: >>56113923

>>56113866
Depends on the setting.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:12:08 No.56113882 Report

Quoted By: >>56113923

>>56113866
Could be 70usd if you use china.
Low model army are turboshit tho.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:12:23 No.56113885 Report

Quoted By: >>56113923

>>56113866
Its called 40k for a reason

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:12:55 No.56113892 Report

Quoted By: >>56113916

>>56112966
>Malice
You mean Belakor, GW have been building this for a while, he'll replace Malal (Malice) as the new chaos god of fuck the other chaos gods

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:13:00 No.56113893 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113758
Good Inquisition codex woud be awesome but probably(and sadly) they will get 5 pages in Imperial agents and that's all.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:13:21 No.56113897 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113865
incorrect

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:13:32 No.56113901 Report

Quoted By: >>56114107

>>56113681
i'd say they are comparable to quad las predators. Slightly weaker to autocannon type weapons but slightly stronger to lascannon type weapons. Have a little under half their output wiuth twin lances at a little under half the cost of a quadlaspred.

I'd still take fire prisms over them, though

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:13:55 No.56113906 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113813

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:14:39 No.56113916 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113892
Whatever, Carnac.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:15:00 No.56113922 Report

Quoted By: >>56114119

>>56112828
>Posting unfinished models
Where're the bases, anon?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:15:01 No.56113923 Report

Quoted By: >>56113945 >>56113950

>>56113878
what is a setting.
>>56113882
every box coming from china is opened here, so they would confiscate it or hit me with import tax and vat. So store stuff.

>>56113885
40k??? pounds or dolors

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:15:57 No.56113938 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113758
Thousand sons
>Cults as chapter tactics.
>beatstick unit.
>fast unit, likely disk riders
>non fleshy psychic hellbrute.
>psychic powers that doesn't require dice rolling and consulting a chart. It's never been good, it's never gonna be good, so fuck off with it already.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:16:36 No.56113945 Report

Quoted By: >>56113989

>>56113923
In the us, they just label it toys. Does your post office actually search for the price of wargaming models and such?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:16:57 No.56113950 Report

Quoted By: >>56113989

>>56113923
How the fuck does bongland customs have the resources to open every single package from china?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:17:00 No.56113951 Report

Quoted By: >>56113968 >>56113972 >>56113975 >>56113993 >>56114012 >>56114046

Are there any mass shootings in the imperial schools?

Chaos kids are everywhere I guess,puberty makes you want to kill,makes you desperate,makes you manipulate the exams and...well,makes you want to fuck every pucci

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:17:21 No.56113955 Report

Quoted By: >>56113974

>>56112966
>He thinks that Ynnead isn't a facet of Slaanesh.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:17:27 No.56113957 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113835
your style changed a bunch in the while when i was away
what else you got

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:18:49 No.56113968 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951
Considering white kids are gone i doubt it

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:19:09 No.56113972 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951
Schools?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:19:13 No.56113974 Report

Quoted By: >>56114033

>>56113955
But that's Fukken Epimethius the old grey knight abbadon kidnapped on Pythos.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:19:13 No.56113975 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951
40k IS a mass shooting

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:19:54 No.56113987 Report

Quoted By: >>56114189

>>56113730
Pretty bad, though you have some promising things in it.
>making a batallion isn't a terrible idea for an additional CP
>PAGKs are really strong, so consider DS'ing some squads of them
>Paladins are awesome but a tad lackluster without a force multiplier (banner and buff) and apothecary
>Dreadnoughts are only ok, ML is never the way to go though
>maybe go lascannon/fist, twin twin autocannon, or FW doomglaive one, those are really the only viable load-outs
>land raiders suck. Sad but true, surprisingly easy to kill and way too expensive
>get a Stormraven for all your WAAC troop tote'n gunboat'n needs
>never put hammers on PAGK. halberds or falchions only.
>put that GM in a dreadknight
I know this is Waac-ish advice, but it's how it'll be a better list, use as you desire

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:20:02 No.56113989 Report

Quoted By: >>56114001 >>56114010

>>56113945
if they come outside of EU and from places like Russia or China, and they are private they open them every time.
>>56113950
stuff that comes in huge conteiners is checked in Russia or China. Private boxs all come to 3 places in my country where they are all opened at random. which means they open every 5th. if it is heavy or big it will get open. if it is small they will open it.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:20:14 No.56113993 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951
Why would the Imperium partake in this American tradition ?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:21:15 No.56114001 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113989
Jesus Christ

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:21:57 No.56114010 Report

Quoted By: >>56114099

>>56113989
They open random stuff here too, but even with the fine recasts are still cheaper than GW. And they still allow you to have it.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:22:30 No.56114012 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951
yes, although they're usually directed by a drill Abbott

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:24:43 No.56114033 Report

Quoted By: >>56114074 >>56114096

>>56113974
Was that story continued somewhere?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:25:29 No.56114043 Report

Quoted By: >>56115305

>>56112895
Uhh, I think you said you chose the diagonal one because you haven't played it? You don't choose the map. Whoever chooses makes the roll for the deployment style. Still random

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:25:37 No.56114046 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113951

>Are there any mass shootings in the imperial schools?

I'm saying no. The Imperium is pretty up front and unapologetic about being a crushing authoritarian regime. There's no existential panic from disillusionment that it is otherwise.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:27:28 No.56114065 Report

Quoted By: >>56114079

>>56113644

good joke comrade i almost believed you were a nazi

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:28:18 No.56114074 Report

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>>56114033
Of course not. You know how they never resolve plot threads until several years after they've been introduced.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:28:35 No.56114079 Report

Quoted By: >>56114147

>>56114065

only thing worse than a nazi is a commie.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:29:52 No.56114096 Report

Quoted By: >>56114140

>>56114033
That little blurb about Abaddon gifting him to Fulgrim for an alliance is the last we hear of it I believe. Since the whole point of Of this was to to claim Epimethius as a present to gain Fulgrim as an ally for the black crusade, I was kinda surprised it didn't show up in fall of cadia.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:30:00 No.56114099 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114010
if they open, and it doesn't fit on their lists or fits one of their lists, but I haven't paid import tax, which for toys here is 200%, they would confiscate it and make me pay a fine. Plus I would have to explain what resin is, if they ask, this doesn't have to happen, as they are lazy, they made deem it unhealthy and confiscate it. they can also be assholes and ask me what the stuff is, if they don't find it on their lists. And then sky is the limit. they can decide those are luxury model products that have an import tax up to 1400% of worth, and if they don't have the worth of something on the list they can call it what ever they think it may be. I can of course take the country to court to get my tax return back, only this costs a lot, takes a lot of time and those would be fake models, so I would lose anyway.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:30:29 No.56114107 Report

Quoted By: >>56114131

>>56113901
Head to head Preds don't stack up well against them. It needs two turns to down one 90 point WW. You also get to splash psychic powers over the whole unit of 3, and they get attributes.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:31:10 No.56114119 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113922
>Where're the bases, anon?
Under their feet silly.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:32:20 No.56114131 Report

Quoted By: >>56114171

>>56114107
>>splash psychic buffs on the whole unit.
Good reason to bring a squad.

I thought most of the eldar powers were only able to buff infantry and bikes though.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:32:23 No.56114133 Report

Quoted By: >>56114564

>>56113830
I'll be going digital soon

>>56113813
Better camera

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:32:46 No.56114140 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114096
Fulgrim was to busy Auto-erotic asphyxiating himself to help with the fight

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:33:07 No.56114147 Report

Quoted By: >>56114164 >>56114181

>>56114079
what about Islamists?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:33:31 No.56114156 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113156
Please report to your local commissariat for summary execution due to unauthorized modificaton of Munitorum equipment.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:34:05 No.56114164 Report

Quoted By: >>56114210

>>56114147
a close third.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:34:06 No.56114165 Report

Quoted By: >>56114212 >>56114215 >>56114218 >>56114239

So I can't fire at a Character if it isn't the nearest model. However, I can fire at a Character if he is 6 inches away, but a Land Raider is 5 inches away, right?
Surely, a Land Raider or other comparable vehicle can't just draw fire away from other units by dint of merely being in play.
TLDR - Vehicles protect heroes? Rhino spam soon>

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:34:33 No.56114171 Report

Quoted By: >>56114193

>>56114131
Guide and Fortune should work unless they changed it.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:35:00 No.56114177 Report

Quoted By: >>56114620 >>56114639 >>56114680

So as a Guard player I can use an inquisitor with 3 squads of Acolytes as a pocket Leadership battery with relative ease.
Stuffing the Acolytes into a Valkyrie (since they can all of them carry meltas and plasmas and flamers) makes for a super tasty air mail package too.

Is this cheese?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:35:15 No.56114181 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114147

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:35:45 No.56114189 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113987
>I know this is Waac-ish advice, but it's how it'll be a better list, use as you desire
Thats cool, I want to optimize my list, but of course there are some units I just have to take no matter how bad they are, for example my Landraider, I used that in 7th as well no matter what.

>making a batallion isn't a terrible idea for an additional CP
I'll try to make this one work, CP would be really nice
>PAGKs are really strong, so consider DS'ing some squads of them
So I've heard, the 10 man squad is for buffing with the psiammo stratagem
>Paladins are awesome but a tad lackluster without a force multiplier (banner and buff) and apothecary
Really? I've always been pretty dissapointed when I use those support characters, apothecaries tend to fall behind and the banner always seems so expensive that it would be better to just take more paladins instead
>Dreadnoughts are only ok, ML is never the way to go though
>maybe go lascannon/fist, twin twin autocannon, or FW doomglaive one, those are really the only viable load-outs
Yeah, I'm kinda experimenting with Dread loadouts, the fist+melta is meant for gating forwards, while I was planning on using astral aim on the lasmissle dude. Having a fist would probably be a better idea, though.
>land raiders suck. Sad but true, surprisingly easy to kill and way too expensive
:(
I'm always sad to hear that Land Raiders are bad. Unfortunately I love them too much to ever not use mine. It has a very special place in my heart.
>get a Stormraven for all your WAAC troop tote'n gunboat'n needs
Dont have one, unfortunately, and I'm currently kinda sick of stormravens (since a friend of mine plays 3 of them)
>never put hammers on PAGK. halberds or falchions only.
Not even on the sergeants?
>put that GM in a dreadknight
I know that they're good, but seriously fuck babycarriers.

Thanks for the indepth answer man, I really appreciate it!
May the Emperor smile upon your dice rolls.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:35:56 No.56114193 Report

Quoted By: >>56114728

>>56114171
Oh, those are the farseers though, right? I suppose warlocks are only for infantry.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:37:34 No.56114210 Report

Quoted By: >>56114225 >>56114337

>>56114164
what about social democracy?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:37:47 No.56114212 Report

Quoted By: >>56114253

>>56114165
Vehicles are also models anon. Don't be racist.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:37:50 No.56114213 Report

Quoted By:

>>56113469
Well sing me in, I love em muscular Amazon girls

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:38:03 No.56114215 Report

Quoted By: >>56114253

>>56114165
yes...closest actual model. period...no other stipulations.

if a squad of dudes is locked in combat and they are closer than the character...you still cant shoot the character.

it isnt the closest legal target...it is just the closest target period.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:38:26 No.56114218 Report

Quoted By: >>56114253

>>56114165
Jesus Christ. If the character's not the closest thing you don't shoot at it

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:38:54 No.56114225 Report

Quoted By: >>56114292

>>56114210
its #2, we already covered that.

:^)

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:39:59 No.56114239 Report

Quoted By: >>56114253

>>56114165
Closest visible model.

This means two things: one, that NOTHING must be closer, vehicles, infantry, or monsters. Two, that indirect weapons can NEVER target characters. You have to be able to see the target.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:41:14 No.56114253 Report

Quoted By: >>56114263 >>56114291 >>56114503 >>56114614

>>56114212
>>56114215
>>56114218
>>56114239
That's some fucking janky bullshit right there.
"IT'S THE ENEMY LEADER! FUCK, LOOK OUT! A RHINO WITH ONE WOUND LEFT!"

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:42:06 No.56114263 Report

Quoted By: >>56114299 >>56114304

>>56114253
>oh hey an infantryman with wierdly painted-
>SHIT ITS A TANK

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:44:01 No.56114289 Report

Quoted By:

NEGATIVE NEGATIVE THE SODA BOTTLE IS THE CARNIFEC

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:44:11 No.56114291 Report

Quoted By: >>56114299 >>56114304 >>56114305 >>56114312

>>56114253
>Is that a dude on his own? Is he wearing a laurel? It's hard to see with all the dust, smoke and-
>HOLY FUCK THERE'S A HUGE TANK RIGHT NEXT TO US

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:44:17 No.56114292 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114225
hohoho
fair point, so I guess it's Junta only then

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:44:30 No.56114295 Report

Quoted By: >>56114326 >>56115340

>>56112825
Fatter, lower IQ, lower life expectancy, more violent.

But better armed so we like to stay on their good side.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:44:42 No.56114299 Report

Quoted By: >>56114394

>>56114263
>>56114291
>Sir I know that fuckhuge demon monster is about to rape us but that empty transport is a much more pressing concern

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:45:05 No.56114304 Report

Quoted By: >>56114379

>>56114263
>>56114291
"THAT'S ROBUTE FUCKING GIRLYMAN! SHIT, LIGHT SPEEDER!"

Fucking retarded.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:45:07 No.56114305 Report

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>>56114291
How would it be hard to see? They are only 5 inches or so away :^)

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:45:18 No.56114310 Report

Quoted By: >>56114358 >>56114396

What are essential units for Death Guard?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:45:31 No.56114312 Report

Quoted By: >>56114379

>>56114291
>There's a huge tank right next to us!

Meanwhile Guilliman is towering over the rhino right behind it

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:46:29 No.56114326 Report

Quoted By: >>56114334 >>56114408

>>56114295
I am not more violent you son of a bitch ill kill you.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:47:17 No.56114334 Report

Quoted By: >>56114408

>>56114326
It's okay I love you Yankee boy.
Just put the gun down.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:47:40 No.56114337 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114210
considering the Military junta that took over Chile did so via a military coup against a social democratic government and that the image references the execution method used against democrats. I'm pretty sure the only acceptable choice is going to be military dictatorship and or oligarchy.

also take it to /pol/

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:47:50 No.56114341 Report

Quoted By: >>56114361 >>56114585

>>56113758
>Fit muscular cute sisters repentia

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:48:52 No.56114358 Report

Quoted By: >>56114850

>>56114310
Depends on what kind of DG you want to bring.

demon prince with wings is good no matter what list type you bring.
Typhus + 20 pox walkers if you want to play zombies
plagueburst crawlers are basically DG only good ranged anti-tank

are all good choices

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:49:05 No.56114361 Report

Quoted By: >>56114401 >>56114406 >>56114548

>>56114341
>repentia
Don't put your dick in crazy?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:50:34 No.56114379 Report

Quoted By: >>56114412

>>56114312
>>56114304
Y'all realize that even with his armor Bobby G doesn't break 10 feet right?

Rhinos, meanwhile, are designed to CARRY space marines. So of course they're taller.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:50:40 No.56114382 Report

Quoted By: >>56114403

Can some good and kind anon share Craftworlds Codex?
Pretty Please

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:51:45 No.56114394 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114299

The fuckhuge daemon monster can be shot at because even though it's a character it has too many wounds to hide amongst its troops.

I like how you inadvertently just shit on your own argument.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:51:49 No.56114396 Report

Quoted By: >>56114439

>>56114310
Poxwalkers and/or Cultists, Plague Tonks, Daemon Prince, Foul Memeflamer, Blightlords, allied CSM sorc for Warptime to make your slow cunt move faster, Chaos Lord for the rerolls aura in larger games where the Prince can't cover all the important stuff.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:52:18 No.56114401 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114361
No such option available.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:52:27 No.56114403 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114382
Nah. I'll get you folks the nid Codex as soon as its out though.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:52:35 No.56114406 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114361
Crazy in the head, crazy in bed.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:52:39 No.56114408 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114334
>>56114326

Now kiss.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:52:56 No.56114412 Report

Quoted By: >>56114451 >>56114473 >>56114523 >>56114543

>>56114379
>Bobby G doesn't break 10 feet
Come on then. Hit me with your info.
Marines are 7-8 foot tall and Bobby towers over them. Explain or accept a gaping from orc cock.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:54:55 No.56114439 Report

Quoted By: >>56114486

>>56114396
i never got the use of the memeflamer, just doesn't seem to make his points back. But i play shooty midrange DG.

But if you bring an allied detachment of CSM you can use 1 cp to give your DP warptime.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:55:30 No.56114451 Report

Quoted By: >>56114473

>>56114412
>Explain or accept a gaping from orc cock.
You idiot, now we'll never get an answer from the faggot!

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:56:13 No.56114463 Report

Quoted By: >>56114497 >>56114891

Please r8, h8 or ber8 this list.

Death Korps of Krieg 1000 points list :

** HQs **

Marshal with Plasma Pistol, Power Sword, Memento Mori (56 pts)

Officer with Laspistol and Power Sword (27 pts)

Death Rider Squadron Commander with Plasma Pistol and Power Sword (47 pts)

** Elites **

Command Squad with Regimental Standard and Meltagun (45 pts)

Command Squad with Platoon Standard and Meltagun (45 pts)

** Troops **

2x Infantry Squad with Plasma rifle, Watchmaster with Lasgun (2x 57 pts)

2x Infantry Squad with Flamer, Watchmaster with Power Sword (2x 61 pts)

** Fast Attack **

6 Death Riders, Ridemaster with Plasma Pistol (101 pts)

Hellhound with Inferno Cannon and Heavy Flamer (110 pts)

** Heavy Support **

Heavy Weapons Squad with 3 Lascannons (75 pts)

Heavy Weapons Squad with 3 Autocannons (60 pts)

Mars Alpha Leman Russ with Battle Cannon, Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolters and a Heavy Stubber (194 pts)

Total : 996 pts

The army would be organized as a Battalion + a Spearhead detachment for 7 CP. The cavalry officer would get the sword of conquest for added choppiness.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:56:42 No.56114473 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114412
>>56114451
Wasn't Magnus like 11-12ft?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:56:44 No.56114476 Report

Quoted By: >>56114507

>>56113758
Servitors. I'm tired of using my plasma cannon servitors as plasma gun acolytes.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:57:14 No.56114486 Report

Quoted By: >>56114573

>>56114439
>But if you bring an allied detachment of CSM you can use 1 cp to give your DP warptime.
At that point why not just take the fucking Sorc? It's not like Contagion doesn't have good powers, if you're not putting up Miasma every turn you're doing DG wrong.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:57:29 No.56114492 Report

Quoted By: >>56114559

Alright anons, what will be next unit for Chaos LoW list once bird gets nerfed/banned?

>Dual Avenger Knight
>Renegade Baneblade
>Brass Scorpion
>Lord of Skulls
>some other FW model

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:57:40 No.56114497 Report

Quoted By: >>56114556

>>56114463
You sacrifice way too mich for useless CP

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:58:05 No.56114503 Report

Quoted By: >>56114561

>>56114253
I mean, it depends on how crazy decorated he is. Certainly the space marine with a huge flag or bright gold halo on his head you might be temped to shoot him first. But for the average Company Commander, pic related is very relevant.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:58:12 No.56114507 Report

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>>56114476
servitors only need one change. servo-arm price change. they shouldn't in any way be more expensive than marines

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 20:59:24 No.56114523 Report

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>>56114412

I know we know the average height of an Astartes. Pic related is based on the relative depiction of the two in art.

Bobby G maybe would get another foot with that wonky armor of his, but it's just as likely that size is accounted for.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:00:46 No.56114543 Report

Quoted By: >>56114566 >>56114570

>>56114412
According to the fluff Primarchs are suppose to be as tall or a little taller than marines in terminator armour.

Of course nobody told the design team that...

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:12 No.56114548 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114361
Anon what are you? A faggot?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:30 No.56114556 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114497
Which units do you think should be removed ?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:39 No.56114559 Report

Quoted By: >>56114874

>>56114492
>Duel Avenger Knight
God, when this thing gets the ROF buff I am NOT looking forward to it. Forget losing 2 squads per turn, imagine just how ungodly long its going to take to roll 80 dice per walker?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:42 No.56114561 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114503
Yeah, I feel like this discrepancy really only exists for space marines, and mostly with Guilliman.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:50 No.56114564 Report

Quoted By: >>56115251

>>56114133
Eh, I dont think I will finish this

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:01:53 No.56114566 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114543
i don't think so

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:02:01 No.56114570 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114543
But terminator is as tall as normal marine. He's just bulkier

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:02:16 No.56114573 Report

Quoted By: >>56114627

>>56114486
I usually run the heavy support detachment and bring a cheapy chaos lord for rerolls and 12+3 lascannon havocs. Also i take plagucasters who can throw up miasma.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:02:36 No.56114578 Report

Quoted By: >>56114600 >>56114636 >>56114692

i want to use this guy as an acolyte with bolt pistol and power sword. how would you 40kify him. do any kits come with little inquistorial bits, maybe a servo skull floating skull somehow?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:02:59 No.56114585 Report

Quoted By: >>56114858

>>56114341
No futa-cock cant even get hard

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:03:37 No.56114600 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114578
He's a feudal worlder nothing more neede

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:04:28 No.56114614 Report

Quoted By: >>56114881

>>56114253
Why aren't you mad that you can't shoot at specific models in a squad without special rules? That sergeant with his bling and back banner is just as visible, but because he's "part of the unit" he's a no-no as a target and I have to shoot at the unit as a whole. That's bullshit man, I can clearly see him and that he's a high value target. Smoke that motherfucker with everything you got.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:04:48 No.56114617 Report

Quoted By:

>>56112854
Why would nids have chapter tactics,?
They eat that many marines?

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:05:00 No.56114620 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114177
It's not cheese because you can use 3 Command Squads for cheaper and more accurate weapons inside the Valkyrie. BS4+ melta gun on an Acolyte is 25 points total, where as a Guard Vet is 18 with it at BS3+ and can get Orders if you only put 2 squads of 4 in there.

Using Acolytes period is the opposite of cheese unless you bring them in a stupidly good transport like taking 1 Acolyte and giving him a Stormlord.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:05:20 No.56114627 Report

Quoted By: >>56114663

>>56114573
>Havoks
>Not just taking Plaguebursts
I too was once tempted by the siren call of shitty Devastators with inferior support units. You'll figure it out someday.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:05:50 No.56114636 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114578
Servo skull and a purity seal.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:05:56 No.56114639 Report

Quoted By: >>56114680

>>56114177
Plasma and Melta are wasted on them. Flamers only and leave the other two guns to Scions.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:06:40 No.56114654 Report

Quoted By: >>56115304

R8 my competitive list. I intend on using this to stomp the local waacfags and then possibly take it to tournaments if it performs well. The basic idea is to use Cawl to give the beep boops re-rolls and provide the entire army with a constant cover save via rolling Canticles with the Mars Forge World. The Dominus sits with the laser Dunecrawlers to give re-rolls of 1's and the rangers will bubblewrap one of the characters.

AdMech2k comp list
1997pts

Spearhead Detachment 962pts

Belesarius Cawl 250pts

Cybernetica Datasmith 22/52pts
- Power Fist 20pts
- Gamma Pistol 10pts

Kastellan Robots 220pts
- 2 robots 65ppm
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts

Kastellan Robots 220pts
- 2 robots 65ppm
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts

Kastellan Robots 220pts
- 2 robots 65ppm
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts
- 3 Heavy Phospher Blasters 45pts

Spearhead Detachment 1035pts

Tech-priest Dominus 125/135pts
- Omnissian axe 0pts
- Volkite Blaster 8pts
- Macrostubber 2pts

Skitarii Rangers 80pts
- 5 Vanguard 8ppm
- Galvanic Rifles 0pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/140pts
- Neutron Laser 45pts
- Cognis Heavy Stubber 5pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/140pts
- Neutron Laser 45pts
- Cognis Heavy Stubber 5pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/140pts
- Neutron Laser 45pts
- Cognis Heavy Stubber 5pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/140pts
- Neutron Laser 45pts
- Cognis Heavy Stubber 5pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/130pts
- Icarus Array 40pts

Onager Dunecrawler 90/130pts
- Icarus Array 40pts

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:07:04 No.56114663 Report

Quoted By: >>56114807

>>56114627
After buying three plaguebursts i found their output lacking.

Shooting twice and wounding T8/3+ on 2s is pretty g8

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:08:15 No.56114680 Report

Quoted By: >>56114748

>>56114639
>>56114177
Flamers aren't worth it either being 7 points. Go for Storm Bolters instead for 2 points. Personally what I would do is load up a Taurox Prime with 10 Acolytes all with Storm Bolters and give the Taurox Prime the Gatling gun, Hotshot Volley Guns and a Storm Bolter. Hop out, 40 S4 shots from the Acolytes and the Taurox shooting 32 S4 shots.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:08:46 No.56114692 Report

Quoted By: >>56114717 >>56114794

>>56114578
Kitbash a cybernetic lense over the eyepatch

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Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:09:28 No.56114700 Report

Quoted By: >>56114755

Building a Deathwatch motorpool is a weird feeling. (Yes I have two Corvus too).

Inb4 “LR turrets in the back don’t work”
>Not going out the Assault Ramp

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:10:14 No.56114717 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114692
oh i like that. cybernetic eye, servo skull behind him and a purity seal on the sword. thanks man i think that eye will be what i really need to make him look like a feudal world guy who has been with my inquisitor for a while

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:10:47 No.56114728 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114193
Warlocks and Spiritseers get RoB and they only buff Infantry and Bikers. Debuffs can target anything.

F

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:11:46 No.56114748 Report

Quoted By: >>56114821

>>56114680
It’s only worth it to take 4 flamers in a separate unit or nothing but storm Bolters in a 5-6 man unit.

Both have worked amazingly for me. Chipping wounds off of big units with flamers before a charge or chunking out swarms is awesome. The Storm Bolters are awesome for spamming shots.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:12:12 No.56114755 Report

Quoted By: >>56114914

>>56114700
At least it's not anywhere near as bad as the Tau transport vehicles with the hatches in front of the turbine intakes...

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:14:29 No.56114794 Report

Quoted By: >>56114848

>>56114692
>Kitbash a cybernetic lense over the eyepatch
Eyepatchs are superior though

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:15:20 No.56114807 Report

Quoted By: >>56114842 >>56114851 >>56114876

>>56114663
I also own three and have had the exact opposite experience, because they never fucking die.

If Havoks are still firing effectively after turn 2 your opponent has either fucked up monumentally or he never had a reason to care about them to begin with. If a Plagueburst stops firing before turn 4 your opponent either got super lucky or his entire list is just points divided by lascannons.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:16:16 No.56114821 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114748
So what you're saying is, combine both. One squad of 4-5 Storm Bolters and one squad of 4-5 Flamers. I like it. Sadly all I have right now is 3 Flamers and 3 Storm Bolters so I will just have to make a single squad of 6 with 3 of each with my Inquisitor in there as well. Going up against Eldar tomorrow, so I'm excited. They are Xenos Ordos, which I haven't changed for any game to keep it consistent. I'm also happy to be shooting all that S4 at T7. 5+ wounding here we come.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:17:23 No.56114842 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114807
This. I've never let a Devastator or Havoc squad live for more than a turn with my Tyranids. If I get first turn they're neutered before they can take one shot.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:17:43 No.56114848 Report

Quoted By: >>56114910

>>56114794
>Not having depth perception is superior though.

Ingest Bleach.

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:17:49 No.56114850 Report

Quoted By:

>>56114358
Brutes and preds are fine just less tanky

Anonymous Sat 28 Oct 2017 21:17:49 No.56114851 Report

Quoted By: >>56114955

>>56114807
The thing is, most opponents have no real way with dealing with infantry at long range, so they either take a couple turns to get into range and dealing with them or resorting to sniping them out of cover with lascannons.

seeing as i run effectively an infantry list its win win for me, since i only really have to worry about anti-infantry vehicles.

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