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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 23:45:51 2017 No.56870368 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56871740 >>56874077

Radical genestealer edition

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:51:23 No.56870483 Report

Quoted By: >>56870506 >>56870711 >>56870742 >>56870763

First for Da Boyz

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:52:30 No.56870506 Report

Quoted By: >>56870528 >>56870742

>>56870483
and second

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:53:38 No.56870528 Report

Quoted By: >>56870579 >>56870711 >>56870742 >>56870762

>>56870506
And Third. Who can possibly compete?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:56:37 No.56870579 Report

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>>56870528
>attacking four times before anyone else
I2 no longer!

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:56:48 No.56870580 Report

Quoted By: >>56870626

Alright boyz, party is over.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:58:28 No.56870611 Report

Quoted By: >>56870628 >>56870659 >>56872701

The survey expired 4 days ago.

Get it out of the OP pls.

Also, finished my first Genestealer Cults model. I messed up the banner when I sprayed it so its not great, but I think I did well in the paint scheme. My highlighting could get better...

Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:59:22 No.56870626 Report

Quoted By: >>56870675

>>56870580

>Plasteel stock
>Has no stock

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Anonymous Sun 10 Dec 2017 23:59:34 No.56870628 Report

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>>56870611
Back

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:01:58 No.56870659 Report

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>>56870611

Banner needs more shading.
Torso armour needs some edge highlighting, it looks sorta dull.
Looks good otherwise.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:03:02 No.56870675 Report

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>>56870626
Well clearly it's folded behind the gun.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:04:01 No.56870690 Report

Quoted By: >>56870710 >>56870719

xth for ebin reference.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:05:25 No.56870710 Report

Quoted By: >>56871055 >>56872623

>>56870690
I just started playing that game again yesterday, fug

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:05:27 No.56870711 Report

Quoted By: >>56870720 >>56871047 >>56873147

>>56870483
>>56870528
Why are devastators in melee?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:06:01 No.56870719 Report

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>>56870690

>Cannot be learned

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:06:06 No.56870720 Report

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>>56870711
It's from Regicide, the 40k chess game. I think Devastators are the Rooks.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:06:11 No.56870723 Report

Quoted By: >>56870756 >>56870772

Worst Codex so far?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:06:58 No.56870739 Report

Quoted By: >>56870804 >>56870907

>>56870631
>2nd ed the loyalist ones were all dead c'ept Russ and Johnson.

You got sources for these? My 2e fluff-fu is a but rusty.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:07:06 No.56870742 Report

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>>56870483
>>56870506
>>56870528
>>56870579

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:07:44 No.56870756 Report

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>>56870723
Grey Knights, no question.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:08:05 No.56870762 Report

Quoted By: >>56870795

>>56870528
Poor second company marine. You shall be missed

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:08:11 No.56870763 Report

Quoted By: >>56876568

>>56870483
Where is this from? And can I play as Orks?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:08:15 No.56870765 Report

Quoted By: >>56870797

slaangors when
any slaanesh unit that isn't a dominatrix when
I want murderraping things that aren't feminine as well

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:08:48 No.56870772 Report

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>>56870723
Grey Knights.
I'll still kick you're fucking butt anyway

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:09:07 No.56870778 Report

Quoted By: >>56870791

warmaster when

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:09:59 No.56870791 Report

Quoted By: >>56870848

>>56870778
fires of cyraxes when

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:10:13 No.56870794 Report

Quoted By: >>56870875 >>56870904 >>56871238 >>56871306 >>56871427 >>56873121

Fa/tg/uys and Ca/tg/irls!
I come to you in search of wisdom and advice!
How much fun would you have against this list and how viable do you think it would be?

SPACE WOLVES CHAPTER:

VANGUARD DETACHMENT [+1 CP] (906 pts):
- HQ:
BJORN THE FELL-HANDED (210 pts) + Helfrost Cannon (25 pts) + Trueclaw (0 pts) + Heavy Flamer (17 pts)
- ELITES:
MURDERFANG (200 pts) + Storm Bolter (2 pts) + Heavy Flamer (17 pts)
Venerable Dreadnought (90 pts) + Fenrisian Great Axe (40 pts) + Blizzard Shield (15 pts) = (145 pts)
Venerable Dreadnought (90 pts) + Fenrisian Great Axe (40 pts) + Blizzard Shield (15 pts) = (145 pts)
Venerable Dreadnought (90 pts) + Fenrisian Great Axe (40 pts) + Blizzard Shield (15 pts) = (145 pts)

BLOOD ANGELS CHAPTER:

VANGUARD DETACHMENT [+1 CP] (928 pts):
- HQ:
Librarian Dreadnought (130 pts) + Furioso Force Halberd (0 pts) + Furioso Fist (40 pts) + Meltagun (17 pts)
Chaplain Venerable Dreadnought (120 pts) + 2x Dreadnought Combat Weapon (2x40=80 pts) + 2x Heavy Flamer (2x17=34 pts)
- ELITES:
Death Company Dreadnought (90 pts) + Blood Talons (65 pts) + Storm Bolter (2 pts) + Meltagun (17 pts) + Magna-grapple (5 pts) = (179 pts)
Furioso Dreadnought (69 pts) + Furioso Fist (40 pts) + Frag Cannon (38 pts) + Heavy Flamer (17 pts) = (164 pts)
Furioso Dreadnought (69 pts) + Furioso Fist (40 pts) + Frag Cannon (38 pts) + Heavy Flamer (17 pts) = (164 pts)

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:10:19 No.56870795 Report

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>>56870762
>black rim
>second company

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:10:27 No.56870797 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870765
Bird dominatrix horde

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:10:32 No.56870801 Report

Quoted By: >>56870841 >>56871485 >>56871515

How do I use Dark Eldar Reavers? They are fast and can spit out a fuckton of splinter shots and some blaster fire but do I want to charge them into combat or do I just want to keep them on the flanks and dumping shots into the enemy?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:10:46 No.56870804 Report

Quoted By: >>56870967

>>56870739
Yep. Russ was waiting for the WOLFTIME and Jonson was still sleeping off the roofie Luther gave him.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:11:53 No.56870826 Report

Quoted By: >>56870861 >>56870866 >>56871049 >>56871096 >>56871174 >>56871737 >>56871752

Post cool HQs!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:12:19 No.56870837 Report

Quoted By: >>56871397

Anyone got the hammer of the emperor omnibus pdf?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:12:33 No.56870841 Report

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>>56870801
Depends on the opponent
Ramming them into Tau infantry seems to work well for me

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:12:35 No.56870843 Report

Quoted By: >>56870886

>>56870609
The response was stupid and gets a stupid response.

I said emotional old dudes were a problem, somehow he immediately jumps to the conclusion I think blacks are the problem and not emotional people.

That's fucking retarded.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:12:59 No.56870848 Report

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>>56870791

When AdMech get transports and when GW releases plastic Sisters.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:13:33 No.56870861 Report

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>>56870826
>hot mango pickle

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:13:49 No.56870866 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870826
Patak's Hot Mango Pickle is also one of my favorite HQs

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:14:22 No.56870875 Report

Quoted By: >>56870956

>>56870794
>How much fun would you have against this list and how viable do you think it would be?

None

Let me read it though.
...

Nah probably would hate it if I had no tank busting shit. But your turns would be fast so that might not be so bad.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:15:05 No.56870886 Report

Quoted By: >>56870921

>>56870843
>>>/pol/

Don't shit up a new thread you guys

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:16:05 No.56870904 Report

Quoted By: >>56870956

>>56870794
>10 Dreadnoughts
>field GKs: 2 GM Knights, two Naughts and a fuckton of Paladins
>field Nids: As many Genestealers and Hormagaunts I can fit, as well as a couple Hive Tyrants and Old One Eye leading a shitton of Carnifexes

You.
Me.
12'o'clock noon.
By the playground behind the school.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:16:08 No.56870907 Report

Quoted By: >>56871022 >>56871153

>>56870739
From Codex Imperialis
>Of the original twenty Primarchs only nine survived the Horus Heresy. The remainder were either killed in the fighting (like Horus) or fled with their Chapters into the Eye of Terror. The survivors helped the Emperor to rebuild the Imperium. A genetic hank war I'ormed from their gene-material so that ncw Space Marine Chapters could be rounded in the future. Although long lived, he Prinlarchs were not immortal and the last of their kind finally died after fourteen hundred years. Many extraordinary legends arc [old of the deeds of' the Primarchs. many of which are preserved by thc lore of the Marine Chapters. Today the Primarchs are worshipped alongside the Emperor as saints in the pantheon of the Chapter cults. Their tombs have become places of pilgrimage. and their bones and personal possessions revered relics

However!
Codex Angels of Death and Codex Spacewolves then go on to say
>Buried even deeper within the Rock, is the final, greatest secret of the Chapter. Only one person in the entire universe knows the truth - the Emperor himself. For hidden inside a secluded, unreachable chamber at the heart of what was once the planet Caliban, Lion El' Jonson lies sleeping, waiting with the Watchers in the Dark for that time when he will be needed once again to defend the Imperium against its enemies.

>Listen closely Brothers, for my life's breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime." (last words of Leman Russ)

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:16:33 No.56870916 Report

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For when I purchase Primaris shit should I invest in an Apothecary if they'll be mingling in one detachment with my Deathwatch boys.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:16:44 No.56870921 Report

Quoted By: >>56870946 >>56870988

>>56870886
Fine.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:17:44 No.56870946 Report

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>>56870921
thankyou <3

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:18:12 No.56870956 Report

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>>56870875
I just- I just can't stop smiling whenever I look at it, it just sounds so bad and good at the same time, so dreadful yet so fun!
>>56870904
You're on, you little shit!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:18:53 No.56870967 Report

Quoted By: >>56871153 >>56871245

>>56870804
I mean where in 2e does it talk about everyone else being confirmed dead?

From what I remember from old fluff is that Guilliman was in stasis and some people claim he's healing, even though it shouldn't be possible due to the stasis. Dorn was missing with only his arm found. Russ and Khan disappeared. I think Vulkan did as well. Ferrus and Sanguinius were confirmed dead.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:19:52 No.56870988 Report

Quoted By: >>56871066

>>56870921

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:20:02 No.56870993 Report

Quoted By: >>56871028 >>56871041 >>56871259 >>56871762

>tfw no headless Ferrus warp ghost leading the legion of the damned as an actaul army

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:21:14 No.56871022 Report

Quoted By: >>56871153

>>56870907
>genetic hank war

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:21:42 No.56871028 Report

Quoted By: >>56871042 >>56871762

>>56870993
I think you mean the disembodied head of Ferrus Manus

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:22:27 No.56871041 Report

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>>56870993

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:22:33 No.56871042 Report

Quoted By: >>56871076

>>56871028
why not both?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:22:58 No.56871047 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870711
Because the orks charged them.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:23:08 No.56871049 Report

Quoted By: >>56871227

>>56870826
Is it actually hot or just moderately spicy?
I hate when they do that.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:23:34 No.56871055 Report

Quoted By: >>56872562

>>56870710
Blood DK is so much fun.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:23:44 No.56871058 Report

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Thinking about using this as a general scheme for my death guards, any tips to get that schlik look to the tentacles?

That and what color should I use for flesh? Neutrals seem out of the question if clothes are neutral.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:24:11 No.56871066 Report

Quoted By: >>56871105

>>56870988
Are mutants heresy if they're cute enough to fuq?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:24:49 No.56871076 Report

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>>56871042
>Head on a Relic Leviathan
>Headless body has a Legion of the Damned LoW tier

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:25:57 No.56871096 Report

Quoted By: >>56871174

>>56870826

Colonel “Go ahead and shoot me with a Battle Cannon” Petrov

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:26:34 No.56871105 Report

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>>56871066
Just make sure to clean up when you're done. Fire and a bucket full of hot lead get the job done.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:27:13 No.56871122 Report

Quoted By: >>56871135 >>56871138 >>56871149 >>56871154 >>56871199 >>56871224 >>56871264 >>56871265 >>56871460 >>56871547

Does anyone else miss when 40k was a static setting?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:27:16 No.56871124 Report

Quoted By: >>56871145

>These are now actually good and fairly priced
This makes me so happy.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:28:21 No.56871135 Report

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>>56871122
I wouldn't exactly call the plot a roiling, breakneck caper

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:28:27 No.56871138 Report

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>>56871122
No

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:28:42 No.56871145 Report

Quoted By: >>56871194

>>56871124
What do you prefer Anon, Fists or Talons?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:28:54 No.56871149 Report

Quoted By: >>56871224

>>56871122

No, it was hardly static when kept adding events that were happening up until the end of .41M.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:29:19 No.56871153 Report

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>>56870907
>>56871022
>>56870967
that'll learn me to copy past, I'll clean this up a bit

>Of the original twenty Primarchs only nine survived the Horus Heresy. The remainder were either killed in the fighting (like Horus) or fled with their Chapters into the Eye of Terror. The survivors helped the Emperor to rebuild the Imperium. A genetic bank was formed from their gene-material so that new Space Marine Chapters could be founded in the future. Although long lived, the Primarchs were not immortal and the last of their kind finally died after fourteen hundred years. Many extraordinary legends are told of the deeds of the Primarchs many of which are preserved by the lore of the Marine Chapters. Today the Primarchs are worshipped alongside the Emperor as saints in the pantheon of the Chapter cults. Their tombs have become places of pilgrimage and their bones and personal possessions revered relics

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:29:33 No.56871154 Report

Quoted By: >>56871684

>>56871122
No. The setting moving again has brought a lot more good than bad.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:30:06 No.56871174 Report

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>>56870826
I can't paint well enough for cool HQs, just normal HQs.
>>56871096
I know that feel. My count as Straken is known for taking missiles to the face after failing charges.

>Give him a bodyguard so he doesn't get shot so much in the face
>Bodyguard makes the charge but Straken doesn't
>Straken gets blown up

Happened about 3 times before I realized, charge with Straken first and if he fails, don't charge the bodyguard in.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:30:44 No.56871186 Report

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For The Dead Walk Again do the Pox walkers need to be in range of the unit or the model that's slain?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:31:21 No.56871194 Report

Quoted By: >>56871238

>>56871145
Talons. Rerolling everything makes up for my shit luck. Also, witht he chapter tactic, S10 will still allow you to wound everything on 2+ during the first turn of combat.

Add 2 heavy flamethrowers to this, to make the heretics extra crispy.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:31:30 No.56871199 Report

Quoted By: >>56871243

>>56871122
Fucking yes. The world was so well designed for the gameplay, with explicit excuses for Your Guys and Your Battles, and every change makes it smaller.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:33:14 No.56871224 Report

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>>56871122
Yes, >>56871149 is a fair point but it was nicer to have my dudes making a tiny difference in a small corner of the setting than my dudes watching the narrative.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:33:19 No.56871227 Report

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>>56871049
it's sat in there for a long enough time that I don't remember

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:34:02 No.56871238 Report

Quoted By: >>56871269

>>56871194
Aaah, good choice! Does the Chapter tactic still work if I use this list? >>56870794

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:34:04 No.56871240 Report

Quoted By: >>56871306

post dreadnoughts

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:34:15 No.56871243 Report

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>>56871199
I will say that I do like the changes, but I really hate characters.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:34:27 No.56871245 Report

Quoted By: >>56871265 >>56871420

>>56870967
I have to go digging to remember exactly where, but I'm sure I'm right about those two. Dorn got his hands chopped off, presumed dead. Khan went... somewhere. Vulkan I'm hazy on. Corax got killed doing something fucking retarded, that I'm pretty sure on. But the point of the legends were to inspire humanity to keep jumping into the meat grinder, not to magically show up and save humanity because 40k is about humanity enduring endless warfare because it's either fight or die and not having superheroes save the day because humans are 'good'.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:35:38 No.56871259 Report

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>>56870993
He makes a cameo in MoM.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:35:54 No.56871264 Report

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>>56871122
It's static now

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:35:54 No.56871265 Report

Quoted By: >>56871318 >>56871420

>>56871122
Nah I like that they're moving it on, I just want them to be careful with it. While not related to plot I do feel like narrative and open play would have been a good opportunity to get special characters out of normal games

>>56871245
that stuff all comes later I think

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:36:07 No.56871269 Report

Quoted By: >>56871306 >>56871314

>>56871238
Yes, if one of your detachment is 100% made out of units with the same <Chapter> keyword, you get to use the chapter tactics for them.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:38:37 No.56871306 Report

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>>56871240
Here you go Anon! If you could give me some input on: >>56870794
that would be awesome!
>>56871269
Yis yis, my plans come ever closer to completion~

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:39:06 No.56871314 Report

Quoted By: >>56871349 >>56871393

>>56871269
>One
? How would that even work?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:39:18 No.56871318 Report

Quoted By: >>56871355

>>56871265
I know that's what it was. I have no clue what the retcons have made them now.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:40:49 No.56871345 Report

Quoted By: >>56871380

Hello, i like Space Wolves

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:41:07 No.56871349 Report

Quoted By: >>56871364 >>56871414

>>56871314

How does that work?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:41:14 No.56871355 Report

Quoted By: >>56871402

>>56871318
It's roughly the current state of affairs but all were dead save Johnson and Russ and the Heretics up till 4th ed I think

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:41:41 No.56871364 Report

Quoted By: >>56871393

>>56871349
How does *that* work?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:42:38 No.56871380 Report

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>>56871345

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:43:11 No.56871393 Report

Quoted By: >>56871442

>>56871364

Was supposed to read how does what work in reference to >>56871314

Smink Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:43:26 No.56871397 Report

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>>56870837
>hammer of the emperor omnibus
all the individual stories are in my trove at snip.li
/RPGNovels along with pretty much everything else published for 40k in novel audio or comic book form (still adding stuff)

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:43:43 No.56871402 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871355
Khan is having a hell of a time with Dark Eldar racing

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:44:10 No.56871410 Report

Quoted By: >>56871810

Thinking of a plan for melee. The idea is a company champion, a squad of tacticals or assault marines, and an apothecary to work as a kind of speed bump. Champion to dish out damage, squadies as ablative wounds, and the medic to help sustain the group. Obviously it won't hold up to a dedicated blender, but to help tie up a lesser threat or a shooty mob, would be viable?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:44:15 No.56871414 Report

Quoted By: >>56871446 >>56871447 >>56871457

>>56871349
How does only one habe the keyword, thought they all need to share. Do they not need to use the keyword like chaos for both but if they all have the faction they get it? But so you get multiple faction bonuses if tou have a different faction too in a separate detach?
Do both get the faction bonus?

So many questions.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:44:44 No.56871420 Report

Quoted By: >>56872053 >>56872070

>>56871265
>that stuff all comes later I think

3e Index Astartes releases had pretty much all of that, and some of it has been reprinted over the years, even recently.

>>56871245
>the point of the legends were to inspire humanity

Since 3e the primarch fluff, apart from Horus, Ferrus and Sangy, has pretty much been "missing/stasis/waiting, presumed dead by the Imperium." So them suddenly coming back isn't some drastic rewriting of history. And daemon primarchs were always there doing their thing.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:45:09 No.56871427 Report

Quoted By: >>56871463

>>56870794
I've actually played this list before, and its pretty fucking fun to play as. Not sure they guy across me was having much fun while my stuff had 3+ invulns though.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:45:58 No.56871442 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871393
Thank you for remaining calm in the face of obnoxious trolling. Godspeed soldier.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:46:22 No.56871446 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871414
I said chaos but i meant imperial or whatever

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:46:29 No.56871447 Report

Quoted By: >>56871468 >>56871521

>>56871414
If all units in a detachment have the corresponding faction keyword all units in that detachment benefit from the faction traits.

Detachments won't share traits across each other, but they don't prevent traits being gained.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:47:08 No.56871457 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871414

For the entire army to be Battle Forged it has to share a keyword (so a keyword across all detachments). To get access to Chapter Tactics a detachment has to have all of the same <Chapter> key word. So you could take 3 detachments that all share the Imperial keyword and then each detachment is composed of units with a singular <Chapter> and thus each detachment would get its chapter tactics while still being battle forged.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:47:19 No.56871460 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871122
I like the idea of every new edition pushing things maybe 100 years further.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:47:29 No.56871463 Report

Quoted By: >>56871603

>>56871427
You serious?!
Can you give me a quick battle rep.? I'd love to hear how it went!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:47:52 No.56871468 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871447
Oh wow.

Gonna need an hour to process that.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:48:39 No.56871485 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870801

Until they get a points drop or something else they are suffering as many bike units did from moving into 8th. Not really helpful but, let's not forget.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:50:41 No.56871515 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870801

I've been running 2 units of 6 with the Webway portal stratagem and using them primarily for shooting. I like to drop 2 of them with 2 units of scourges to give myself some flexibility in backfield pressure.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:51:01 No.56871521 Report

Quoted By: >>56871575 >>56871678

>>56871447
So do you get multiple faction bonuses if they exist?

E.g. say nurgle or daemons get a faction in the codex and in my death guard army I make a patrol unit of death guard daemons do they theoretically get both?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:51:32 No.56871529 Report

Quoted By: >>56871557 >>56871582 >>56871591 >>56871667 >>56871716

how would you guys feel about a space marine army with 3 detachments, but each detachment has very differnt paint jobs, even though they are the same army? basically i want to do a wheel of time army, and have the 3 main characters as captains, and each of the detachments reflect them from the book

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:52:40 No.56871547 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871122
They kept squashing more and more shit into a single fucking year. It was retarded.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:53:09 No.56871557 Report

Quoted By: >>56871600

>>56871529
Totally cool with that. Especially if they squad markers and special little things pertaining to them.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:53:50 No.56871575 Report

Quoted By: >>56871596

>>56871521

I don't quite follow your question.

A detachment gets bonuses laid out in its codex which is usually predicated on having all of the strictest available keyword (for example <Deathguard> or <Nurgle Demon>). So if demons get a detachment bonus you'd need to take an entirely demons detachment and an entirely Death Guard detachment.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:54:08 No.56871582 Report

Quoted By: >>56871625

>>56871529
so long as it wasn't deliberate cheese it'd be fine

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:54:11 No.56871583 Report

Quoted By: >>56871654 >>56871682

>Ork Warbikes didn't get a point drop in Chapter Approved

Playing Kult of Speed is suffering.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:54:35 No.56871591 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871529
Dark Angels are literally this

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:54:52 No.56871596 Report

Quoted By: >>56871612 >>56871655

>>56871575
Yes and i have daemons with death guard and nurgle daemon I think, would they get both?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:55:06 No.56871600 Report

Quoted By: >>56871630

>>56871557
yeah each squad in every detachment would have something to show their connection to their specific captain

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:55:14 No.56871603 Report

Quoted By: >>56871655

>>56871463
It was only the top half of the list cause it was a 2k point 2v2 with me and some dude playing ravenguard against eldar tank busting and some guard with a couple tanks basically here's what happened if I remember correct it was soon after 8th dropped:

>march bjorn and his entourage of 3 melee dreads up the board while murderfang menacingly runs at some eldar in cover
>ravenguard guy does nothing the entire game
>only dreadnought to die was actually murderfang after he tore open an eldar tank and a squad of their heavy weapons equivalent
>the remaining dreadnoughts charge some poor guardsmen and scions and melts their faces while chain consolidating into their tanks and the last of the eldar

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:55:56 No.56871612 Report

Quoted By: >>56871647

>>56871596

Are they in the same detachment?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:56:39 No.56871625 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871582
im newish to the game, so i dont know if it would be cheese, but id basically have 1 detachment be troops and heavy, 1 be fast attack and 1 be elites. should i just do 2 detachments instead?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:56:50 No.56871630 Report

Quoted By: >>56871651

>>56871600
God damn they better have cool banners and shit too.
Or man like a theme that they all share but have a different take on too.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:57:51 No.56871647 Report

Quoted By: >>56871669

>>56871612
Yeah if they were? Like hell an easy one would be 3 daemon princes for the command one.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:57:58 No.56871651 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871630
yeah 3 different banners, 1 banner is a red hand, 1 a wolfs head and the other will be hard, a golden chinese dragon. red hands and wolf heads are easy to find in 40k, i might pay to have a dragon banner painted from a commission

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:58:09 No.56871654 Report

Quoted By: >>56871837

>>56871583
How about that kult of speed battleforce that has.. footsloggers and.. 3 bikes

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:58:11 No.56871655 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871603
God damn beautiful Anon!
>>56871596
Because Nurgle Daemons don't have the "Deathguard" keyword and Deathguard don't have the "Nurgle Daemons" keyword, they'd get neither in the same detachment.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:58:27 No.56871659 Report

Quoted By: >>56871703

What is the most fun army to play? Or type of army

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:58:51 No.56871667 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871529
That's basically Dark Angels.
But that's a good thing, marine armies tend to look like one big ugly blob, breaking up the scheme with specialized groups looks a lot better.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:59:03 No.56871669 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871647

If you had nurgle demons and death guard in the same detachment you'd get no bonuses for either in that detachment. You'd need 1 detachment where everything is Death Guard and a separate detachment where every model is a nurgle demon.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 00:59:55 No.56871678 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871521
No, as every unit needs to have the appropriate keyword.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:00:04 No.56871682 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871583

Neither did DE reavers. I feel like they are leaving things off the table to give the codex validation

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:00:07 No.56871684 Report

Quoted By: >>56871722

>>56871154
Being this wrong.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:00:36 No.56871694 Report

Quoted By: >>56871718 >>56871903

>Why aren't playing Imperium, heretic ?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:00:43 No.56871696 Report

Quoted By: >>56872081

Any advice on IG? I really want to base an army around having a fuckhuge LoW tank like a Shadowsword or Baneblade.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:01:20 No.56871703 Report

Quoted By: >>56871748

>>56871659
Dark Eldar are very fun to play
Orkz are very fun to play (unless you like winning) and fun for your opponent to fight against

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:02:15 No.56871716 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871529
Sounds like a fun idea. As long as they're all using the same tactics, I don't think most people would have a problem with it.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:02:22 No.56871718 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871694
Because this is 40k and not 30k

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:02:27 No.56871722 Report

Quoted By: >>56871859 >>56871863 >>56871883 >>56871935

>>56871684
>Being a marinelet

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:03:09 No.56871737 Report

Quoted By: >>56871763

>>56870826
Why are they in a fridge?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:03:14 No.56871740 Report

Quoted By: >>56871785

>>56870368
So i have an idea for an army. 1 battalion of imperial guard, and another detachment (probably heavy) of space marines. What are your thoughts anon?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:03:47 No.56871747 Report

Quoted By: >>56871998

Should I give my terminator lord the black mace or the murder sword? Which will let him fuck shit up harder?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:03:50 No.56871748 Report

Quoted By: >>56872580

>>56871703
>unless you like winning
>Orks are bad meme
Don't run so many transports. Mass bodies and you'll be fine.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:04:03 No.56871752 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870826
I love to post HQs! The one in the back left was my very first model I ever painted!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:04:42 No.56871762 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870993
That'd be rad as fuck. I'd want it to be implied though, more like a fuckhuge legionnaire with distinctive Ferrus features rather than an obvious Ferrus Mannus walking around.

>>56871028
>You are weaaaak Vulkan!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:04:49 No.56871763 Report

Quoted By: >>56871807

>>56871737
Because some brilliant anon discovered that fridges are natural light boxes. White paneled, built in light, the works

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:06:36 No.56871781 Report

Quoted By: >>56871898 >>56872153

My friend's Alaitoc Eldar rip my asshole apart as a Tau player.

Rangers 1st turn battle round infiltrate anywhere on the board, taking up a lot of deep strike territory, and in cover with -2 to hit native are really fucking tough to dig out, and theres about 40 of them on the board. Not to mention the sniping bullshit. Oh, and he can always out-deploy me with the stratagem phantasm.

Then I have wave serpents up my ass doing the same thing with -2 to hit coming up, unloading wraith knights with d-sycthes s10 -4 ap dm1 auto hitting rape cannons. With fire and fade they can roll up, do that, and run back in the transport.

Psychic phase my screen of fire warriors gets obliterated (tau FNP/savoir protocals is the only mitigation we get for pyschic raping)

I feel like I can never get any tempo because he puts the wave serpents in the back. sents them on at a time at me. Once I deal with 1 wave I have to deal with another. Also while getting shot at with bubble-wrapped dark reapers and fire prisms. theres a psychic spell that lets a unit move like it is its movement phase. Howling banshees going 7 + d6 + 3 + 7 + d6 + 3 + charge distance is bonkers, and you get no overwatch against it.

I have taken combinations of the following:

4-6 fusion commanders
cold stars
60 fire warriors supported with aun'va/dark strider (for fallback and analyzer) / cadre
20 path finders with 2x recon/grav/pulse accl/2x shield drones
shield drones
devilfish with breachers
flamer crisis team
stealth suits
vespids

I guess gundrones with fireblades in devilfish and cheese harder? A lot of the games he also loses the first die roll, so he gets to pick side/deployment zone for the map. Going 1st + picking side and deployment is a kick in the dick

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:06:55 No.56871785 Report

Quoted By: >>56871845

>>56871740
If you run Bobert you'll be accused of being a waacfag, so watch out. Other than that, guard and astartes is pretty fluffy

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:06:58 No.56871786 Report

Quoted By: >>56871822 >>56871826 >>56871832 >>56871850

Is playing pic related in a 1500pts game being a dick ?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:08:13 No.56871807 Report

Quoted By: >>56871829

>>56871763
My fridge is too packed with food to see the walls..

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:08:19 No.56871810 Report

Quoted By: >>56871921

>>56871410
What chapter?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:08:57 No.56871822 Report

Quoted By: >>56871905

>>56871786
Superheavies under 1850pts is kinda dickish.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:09:17 No.56871826 Report

Quoted By: >>56871905

>>56871786
Playing it at all is being a dick

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:09:43 No.56871829 Report

Quoted By: >>56871860

>>56871807
whats that like? i spend all my money on minis

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:09:51 No.56871832 Report

Quoted By: >>56871905

>>56871786
Did you agree on use of FW beforehand?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:10:05 No.56871837 Report

Quoted By: >>56871943

>>56871654
>b-b-but it has two transports

Yeah, that battleforce is insulting to call Kult of Speed.

DESU if they just had the Battleforce be 18 bikes at the same price I would probably buy it.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:10:55 No.56871845 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871785
i don't plan to, i have a gillyman model but its more to appease my autism of wanting the primarch models

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:11:10 No.56871850 Report

Quoted By: >>56871905

>>56871786
i always ask my opponent if they are fielding a superheavy or a knight, if they arent using one, i dont use mine. when i go to play i normally have 2-3 lists i can use at various point levels, and 1 to change out my superheavy with

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:11:51 No.56871859 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871722
At least you try.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:11:58 No.56871860 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871829
It's not good for my heart, that's for sure.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:12:00 No.56871863 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871722
you deserve a (You)

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:13:20 No.56871883 Report

Quoted By: >>56872009

>>56871722
This art is still shit

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:14:25 No.56871898 Report

Quoted By: >>56872153

>>56871781

Sounds like he's taking a pretty potent list. If you want to combat it unfortunately commanders and drones is probably your best bet because he's playing a tournament caliber list against a pretty poor index army.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:15:07 No.56871903 Report

Quoted By: >>56872041

>>56871694
Some of the Imperium frowns on skinning people alive for shits and giggles. Chaos encourages it.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:15:18 No.56871905 Report

Quoted By: >>56872057

>>56871822
You're probably right. For its price, I could take a Russ and a Basilisk, plus some extra dudes instead.

>>56871826
Not so much when you're facing opponents using a -1 to hit at more than 12" range doctrine.

>>56871832
My LGS has a policy stating that FW is always allowed, except during tournaments.

>>56871850
I'm a relatively new player, and I've never played with or against a superheavy.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:16:35 No.56871921 Report

Quoted By: >>56872486

>>56871810
Storm Wardens, but since they're an unknown founding, I use Salamanders tactics, cause they're both pretty bro tier with penchents with hunting giant monsters.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:17:41 No.56871935 Report

Quoted By: >>56872004

>>56871722
Is this fan art or is GWs moving away from their uncomfortably crisp style that they've been using for 8th?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:18:26 No.56871943 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871837
That'd at least be decent value, ork bikes are so expensive

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:21:18 No.56871980 Report

Quoted By: >>56872032 >>56872044 >>56872117 >>56872232

I want to play a xeno race
decide for me /tg/ and tell me why you chose the particular race

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:22:01 No.56871998 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871747
Murdersword is great, I barely feel black mace's impact.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:22:10 No.56872004 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871935
That's official. However, the bolter looks excessively thin, the marine could snap it in two if he isn't careful.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:22:18 No.56872009 Report

Quoted By: >>56872124

>>56871883
The bolter is off but I dont see why you'd call it shit

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:23:51 No.56872032 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871980
Orks
Fun

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:23:51 No.56872033 Report

Quoted By: >>56872068 >>56872127 >>56872128

>mfw Alpha Legion infiltrating Khorne Berzerkers

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:24:12 No.56872041 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871903
You’re not the only one there

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:24:21 No.56872044 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871980
necrons, so you know your faction lore will not be ruined by nature of not having lore.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:25:04 No.56872053 Report

Quoted By: >>56872110

>>56871420
It's not the rewriting of the lore that bugs me. It's the half assed effort put into it and the lack of thought to the consequences of it. Like Alpharius. If Dorn killed him, then why was half the Legion still fucking with the other half? Did Omegon plan against himself until Guilliman killed him? Or was that an Alpharius 'clone' kept in stasis? It's just a mess trying to be a mindfuck. And I can go on with more examples of just retarded 'It sounds cool, but makes no rational sense in the overall picture' writing.
>Stoned and on Vicodin, let me refine my thoughts before I continue

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:25:11 No.56872057 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871905
Always allowing FW is different than letting the dude know you're bringing a macharius

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:26:13 No.56872066 Report

Quoted By: >>56872581 >>56873482

Are DKoK tank crews all-female units reenacting Girls und Panzers, but with gas masks ?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:26:21 No.56872068 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872033
*angry hushed whispering intensifies*

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:26:23 No.56872070 Report

Quoted By: >>56872137 >>56872187 >>56872274 >>56872276

>>56871420
>So them suddenly coming back isn't some drastic rewriting of history.
It's not a big factual departure, but it's a huge departure in tone. The original 40k is a setting where mankind's best days are behind it, the ancient heroes are dead or have abandoned humanity, and the Imperium is a cruel mockery of what it promises to be. And none of that was changing.

Shit was GRIM, and DARK. The imperviousness to change gave the setting a unified theme that most commercial sci-fi doesn't have.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:27:25 No.56872081 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871696
You gotta pick a list type before anyone can give worthy advice.

Are you infantry 'footguard' with a bigass LOW in the center?
Are you Mechguard, with lots of chimeras?
Are you Tankguard with Hellhounds and Russes backing up the Baneblade?
Are you Airguard or Militarum Tempestus?

Different strategies elicit different advice.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:29:10 No.56872110 Report

Quoted By: >>56872211 >>56872227

>>56872053
They just carry on his legacy since he ded deady ded

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:29:14 No.56872112 Report

Quoted By: >>56872130 >>56872136 >>56872159 >>56872225

Who is scarier? Chaos Marines or Dark Eldar?

Night Lords might be edge lords but Dark Eldar want to keep you alive as long as possible until they've squeezed all your soul juice out.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:29:37 No.56872117 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871980
Memestealer cults
>Cool models
>Lovecraftian
>purple, purple everywhere
>let’s you collect two other armies

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:10 No.56872124 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872009
Bolt Rifle is too long, too thin. Pauldron on the left is long than the one on the right, head is too high up, hand on the grip is too small and there's clearly no arm behind it.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:20 No.56872127 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872033

>MFW when I properly screen them
>MFW I have no face

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:23 No.56872128 Report

Quoted By: >>56872162 >>56872169

>>56872033
:/ how do you tell the difference between an AL Khorne berzerker and a AL marine with CC gear? I'm just asking because I'm pretty sure the bunny ears are world eater only

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:31 No.56872130 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872112
Dark Eldar might also turn you into gore-y Bane

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:49 No.56872136 Report

Quoted By: >>56872175

>>56872112
what part of we shall know no fear, do you not get?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:30:50 No.56872137 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872070
>thinks the setting has always been grim and dark
>thinks that not progressing is the only way to keep a unified theme

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:31:29 No.56872153 Report

Quoted By: >>56872183 >>56872901

>>56871781
>>56871898
>he's playing a tournament caliber list
Fight fire with fire

Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire)
HQ
Cadre Fireblade Selections: Markerlight

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team
2x Pathfinder, Pathfinder Shas'ui, 3x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle
Pathfinder Team
2x Pathfinder, Pathfinder Shas'ui, 3x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle
XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit Selections: Stimulant injector, Target lock

Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire)
HQ
Cadre Fireblade Selections: Markerlight

Fast Attack
Tactical Drones Selections: 11x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones Selections: 11x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones Selections: 12x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones Selections: 12x MV1 Gun Drone

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish Selections: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon, Seeker missile
TY7 Devilfish Selections: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire)
HQ
Commander Selections: Advanced targeting system, 3x Cyclic ion blaster
Commander Selections: Advanced targeting system, 3x Cyclic ion blaster
Commander Selections: 4x Fusion blaster
Commander Selections: 4x Fusion blaster
Commander Selections: 4x Fusion blaster

Total: [104 PL, 1999pts]

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:31:52 No.56872157 Report

Quoted By: >>56872168 >>56872247 >>56875498

I know I'm probably asking the impossible here but I'm going to anyway.

I'm interested in getting into 40k but I'm not sure where to start. What could you recommend as a good army for beginners that doesn't require a lot of models and is also cheap to buy?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:31:57 No.56872159 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872112
Yeah I’m going with DE here. Being given to a haemey coven or enslaved by a Kabal is probably the worst way to go in 40k

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:32:04 No.56872162 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872128
>Blood for the Blood God

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:32:26 No.56872168 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872157
easy to build primaris army

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:32:29 No.56872169 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872128
They started as a World Eater tradition what with the gladiator pits of Nuceria. However they came to represent a stylized '8' so any Bezerker can feel free to wear them.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:32:52 No.56872175 Report

Quoted By: >>56872268

>>56872136
You'll break, they all break.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:33:51 No.56872183 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872153

It's a decent go. Depending on how much of a dick his friend is the list may just not exist to beat him with Tau in their current state.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:34:01 No.56872187 Report

Quoted By: >>56872214

>>56872070
I like the setting progressing past being perpetually stuck at five minutes to the turn of the millennium, and I don't even mind Bobby G being back, but I'm not really feeling the tone, too many successes.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:34:11 No.56872188 Report

Quoted By: >>56872239

Fuck I love other guard regiments, but they’re so hard to collect.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:35:34 No.56872206 Report

Quoted By: >>56872983

Hey, so I have been considering playing one of the 40k RPGs, and I am mostly trying to decide between Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Dark Heresy 2nd edition.

Generally, my group like to earn their power, but wants to end up earning their way to the top. I think rank 16 Dark Heresy got you equal to the highest rank in DeathWatch, and while Rogue Trader starts off higher than DH, it ends up weaker than rank the max of DH or DW characters.

What is the power scaling like in DH 2nd ed, and is their any unofficial stuff for Rogue Trader that is the equivalent to the Ascension stuff in DH?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:35:55 No.56872211 Report

Quoted By: >>56872538 >>56872601

>>56872110
why are exorcists best chapter

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:36:05 No.56872214 Report

Quoted By: >>56872342

>>56872187
It feels too clean. There's still the pew pew, and the blood, and the sad people, but something is missing. It's starting to feel more like Star Wars than 40k.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:36:54 No.56872225 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872112
Night Lords can only kill you once. DE can bring you back to squeeze that last bit of soul out if you have a particularly 'valuable' form of suffering. I'd rather take physical torture then be turned into a psychic crack pipe.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:37:07 No.56872227 Report

Quoted By: >>56872253 >>56872561 >>56872583

>>56872110
That guy is basically just Lorgar.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:37:21 No.56872232 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871980
Necrons. Sick ass Robo-Egyptian theme. Fulfills the cool factor that undead give while also fulfilling robo cool factors. Also the Monolith is my single favorite model in the entire game. It is also an easy faction to start out with because of how little facial detail and other things like that you have to immediately jump into. They are really durable and all of their units are tough.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:37:57 No.56872239 Report

Quoted By: >>56872270 >>56872311

>>56872188
The Steel Legion has been made obsolete by the Death Korps of Krieg, though.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:38:37 No.56872247 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872157
Read some books from the mega link and figure out 'your dudes'. You'll be much happier and you won't waste money picking a faction that you'll hate later.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:39:03 No.56872253 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872227
Except people don't laugh at him

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:39:50 No.56872268 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872175
my brothers may be broken, but they never broke

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:39:51 No.56872270 Report

Quoted By: >>56872305 >>56872310 >>56872397

>>56872239
>forgeworld
Yeah no thanks. Nice try jewdubs.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:40:02 No.56872274 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872070
30 years of the same old and over a decade of cramming everything into the last few years were restricting the setting so much that it was either move forwards or retcon everything to get space to breathe. Fucking tau were already planning the 4th sphere expansion when the 3rd had just begun and the 1st and 2nd took thousands of years. Shit was bananas.

Not gonna lie that it's a shift, but I'm also glad the setting isn't afraid to change. I know people like Star Wars, but at some point everything being about the jedi and light sabers gets old. Even Rogue One couldn't avoid hamfisting The Force into it.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:40:09 No.56872276 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872070
This is just the long awaited Renaissance for the Imperium. Much like how in 1500-1600s Europe, people decided that "antiquity was cool but this crusading shit sucked" and decided to name the age between them (the 'new' antiquity) and ye olden days "the dark age" & "the middle age", the Imperium will look back on their primarchless and Emperorless times with disdain.
Good old antiquity before the heresy and then the dark ages between the modern 42nd millenium's renaissance and said antiquity.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:42:50 No.56872305 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872270
>poorfags

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:43:12 No.56872310 Report

Quoted By: >>56872365

>>56872270
Yeah feel free to buy your over priced metal miniatures instead

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:43:12 No.56872311 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872239
>panzer grenadiers have been made obsolete by WW1 trenchers

?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:45:06 No.56872342 Report

Quoted By: >>56872373 >>56872445

>>56872214
There's not enough devastation to make this important. To get the gears of the Imperium to turn to Bobby G's direction I would have expected some sort of rebellion. Even if the Ecclesiarchy tougned Girlyman's O-ring some cardnial should have gone fundamentalist and launched some kind of shit. It's too neat and clean. Fuck, Robby's whole idea to resynchronize the Imperial Calendar should have kicked off some shit.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:46:35 No.56872365 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872310
Still half the price

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:46:40 No.56872366 Report

Quoted By: >>56872371 >>56872379

r8 my list tg I made it unbound to be easier to read, its just a vanguard and battalion detachment fun list to stack -3 ld in a bubble

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:47:13 No.56872371 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872366
I r8 8/8 nice job

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:47:15 No.56872373 Report

Quoted By: >>56872437

>>56872342
blowing up cadia was a start, but they left too many cadians.
If they are willing to blow up a few more lore worthy things, and actually have them be gone, it might start to feel like a real lose.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:47:42 No.56872379 Report

Quoted By: >>56873168

>>56872366
shit

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:48:48 No.56872397 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872270
Ebt that way

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:49:03 No.56872404 Report

Quoted By: >>56872452 >>56872454 >>56872482 >>56872489 >>56872499 >>56872536 >>56872569

Here's my Ork list for an upcoming tourney lads

If you don't know, Ork Weirdboyz get an extra +1 to their physic tests for every 10 Ork models near them

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:49:15 No.56872406 Report

Quoted By: >>56873893

>try freehanding after not having done it in years, thinking it’ll be just like riding a bike
>not at all like riding a bike
>totally fucked like 4 chapter symbols for my dudes

Okay, so how can I salvage this one? I decided to try a sneaky AL dude, maybe painting it to make it look like chameoline shifting to a different chapter symbol?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:51:27 No.56872437 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872373
Exactly. I can understand that Cadians are a very popular choice to bulk out Guard units, but it just feels like Cadians are the cockroaches of humanity free from the rotting house they were confined to. They're fucking everywhere.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:51:37 No.56872441 Report

Quoted By: >>56872469

can the mines spawned by a sporocyst (not the ones from the spore gun) charge the turn they are spawned?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:51:46 No.56872445 Report

Quoted By: >>56872531

>>56872342
eh some of this is kind of happening, part of him recruiting Frater Mathieu is to try to smooth over the cracks with the Ecclesiarchy, there's no shortage of groups who are a little more than grumpy to discover that they're no longer the voice of god. Unfortunately a lot of it is happening off camera, but it's early days yet we don't even have all the codices so can't expect them to push forward so soon

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:52:14 No.56872452 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872404
>enough weirdboyz that they can provide the +1 for themselves
Absolute madman

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:52:32 No.56872454 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872404

Not enough mekguns - trade a few weird boys for some gunz.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:53:17 No.56872463 Report

Quoted By: >>56872471 >>56872476

Have Tau Heavy Gun Drones been discontinued? I can't find them on GW or FW and old links to their FW page say it's been expunged.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:53:35 No.56872469 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872441
Seems so, they don't have the restriction.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:53:46 No.56872471 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872463
In that case yes

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:54:01 No.56872476 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872463
Might just be getting a new mold.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:54:27 No.56872482 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872404
>15 D6 smites
holy tits lel

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:55:00 No.56872486 Report

Quoted By: >>56872578 >>56872773

>>56871921
Could also roll with blood angels, sanguinary guard sort of fit the tempest blade shtick, while the +1 to wound would be helpful in making your basic tacticals and assault marines punch harder?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:55:08 No.56872489 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872404
It might be worth investing in mek gunz. Also, add a nob to the mob of boyz that has no nob. They're free after all. Lastly, if you're going to do the full weirdboy spam then you're probably going to want more boyz and less weirdboyz since the way to neuter your list is just going to be "kill the boyz" because that will deny you both the ability to grab objectives and simultaneously deny the battery buff for your psychic tests.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:55:44 No.56872499 Report

Quoted By: >>56872529

>>56872404
too many detachments, not legal.
2000pts is max 3 detachments.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:57:39 No.56872529 Report

Quoted By: >>56872542 >>56872588 >>56872594

>>56872499
I've never heard of that rule anywhere

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:57:43 No.56872531 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872445
That's the point. GW and BL are breaking new ground and it's being done in a half assed way. The Prime G wouldn't leave Terra if the Ecclesiarchy and the Imperial Timecops were not completely on board.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:58:00 No.56872536 Report

Quoted By: >>56872642

>>56872404
How do you format your list like that, good sir?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:58:08 No.56872538 Report

Quoted By: >>56872640

>>56872211
I think people either think Exorcists are stupid snowflake bullshit or super cool.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 01:58:20 No.56872542 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872529
core rule book, under match play rules.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:00:05 No.56872558 Report

Quoted By: >>56872574 >>56872582 >>56872589 >>56872591

who was the most bro primarch before the heresy?
and who is the most bro primarch currently?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:00:16 No.56872561 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872227
Except he's not gay or Chaos. Actually that's the same thing.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:00:19 No.56872562 Report

Quoted By: >>56872593 >>56872623

>>56871055
Suffer well, fellow brethren

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:00:42 No.56872569 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872404
Protip:

Grots count as Ork models.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:00:58 No.56872574 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872558
Vulkan
Vulkan

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:08 No.56872578 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872486
I think you should go BA. Fluff them as distant or reluctant successors but with a strong martial tradition kinda like Carmine Blades. Maybe they come from a Feudal World with a long tradition of swordplay. Use a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack out of the Index to go with the S. Guard.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:14 No.56872580 Report

Quoted By:

>>56871748
Yea. Orks will lose if the opponent has lots of tanks or lots of flamers. I got roasted by sororitas immolator spam. Will do bad vs imperial knights too.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:14 No.56872581 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872066
WIth Your Dudes (or Girls)j, anything is possible!

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:14 No.56872582 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872558
Sanguinius

vulkan

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:17 No.56872583 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872227
Except loyal and badass instead of retarded.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:25 No.56872588 Report

Quoted By: >>56872839

>>56872529
It's a suggested rule, rather than a strict one, but tournament organizers so far are implementing it as a strict rule. I mean, just cram a few of those weirdboyz in the supreme command detachments into the other ones. You'll short yourself a few weirdboyz, but you should be using those points on a couple mek gunz anyway. Either way, let us know how well this works at the tourney.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:27 No.56872589 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872558
Vulkan
Vulkan

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:30 No.56872591 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872558

horus

also horus, because he's dead

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:40 No.56872593 Report

Quoted By: >>56872661

>>56872562
>tfw 2h Frost will never ever come back

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:01:39 No.56872594 Report

Quoted By: >>56872660

>>56872529
page 214 of the rule book, page 39 in the pdf in the mega

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:02:10 No.56872601 Report

Quoted By: >>56872640 >>56872648

>>56872211
They're "GK-lite" but with full space marine rules.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:03:42 No.56872623 Report

Quoted By: >>56872658

>>56872562
>>56870710
I quit WoW as I got more into 40k. I was finding the raid times at certain points too restricting, and I wanted more freedom to paint plastic army men and shit.

Plus, WoW felt like a job at points too... it went beyond the raid times. And the story as of recently has been really crappy. I just do not care so... nah.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:04:36 No.56872640 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872601
>>56872538
The way I see them are loyalists with word bearers aesthetic. They're gk without all the mary sue writing of gk. But aside from the demon slaying they're nothing like gk. I like them a lot because of their aesthetic and the fact that their HQ is doom guy.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:04:45 No.56872642 Report

Quoted By: >>56872681

>>56872536
Use battlescribe on desktop

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:05:14 No.56872648 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872601
best chapter rules to use for them?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:05:15 No.56872649 Report

Quoted By: >>56872704 >>56873034

>tfw Incubi darkness spray
My God I need more

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:05:36 No.56872658 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872623
I still play it in between painting sessions. If not WoW, then I play a match or two of League. I'm also waiting for the new PUBG map, because I'm a sucker for deserts.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:05:40 No.56872660 Report

Quoted By: >>56872839

>>56872594
>guidelines
>guide

Those are suggested rules for tourney organizers and it really depends on what the house rules end up being for the event.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:05:53 No.56872661 Report

Quoted By: >>56874213

>>56872593
>tfw different runes are gone
>bdk is reworked into a fun but braindead spec
>no mastery stacking
>no frost tank
We hold our runeblades in missing hands. We raid well on missing legs. We strive forward on the bones of our raidmembers. Then and only then are we alive. This pain is ours, and no-one else's. To suffer well through.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:06:26 No.56872670 Report

Quoted By: >>56872682 >>56872694 >>56872726

How do I paint this shade of gold?
I like it

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:07:31 No.56872681 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872642
Ah, many thanks to you and your kin!

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:07:31 No.56872682 Report

Quoted By: >>56872713

>>56872670
>fw shit
Its airbrush cancer.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:08:06 No.56872694 Report

Quoted By: >>56872873

>>56872670
if you google how to paint forgeworld custodes it'll come up

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:08:25 No.56872701 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870611
Looks bretty gud desu. Especially like the realistic alien shade on the skin

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:08:45 No.56872704 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872649
It's a godsend for my pre heresy sons of Horus

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:09:36 No.56872713 Report

Quoted By: >>56872731

>>56872682
nothing wrong with using an airbrush as part of your painting kit.
What's wrong with it is using it for everythings and never using a normal brush again

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:10:26 No.56872726 Report

Quoted By: >>56872873

>>56872670
Try the "Brass" paint scheme from GW's Paint App.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:10:46 No.56872731 Report

Quoted By: >>56872816

>>56872713
>tfw I want an airbrush for priming and power swords
>tfw no room to use it
I tried using Vallejo primer as a brush on...Nope. Never again.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:13:52 No.56872773 Report

Quoted By: >>56873017

>>56872486
Might be a good idea. I'm kind of biased against it though, purely based off of when i first started out I avoided bangles and stuck with the more vanilla chapters. I don't really feel comfortable with switching it up at this point.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:16:28 No.56872795 Report

Quoted By: >>56872830 >>56872843

If Horus was the first Primarch then why are the Dark Angels the first legion?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:18:09 No.56872816 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872731
The adhesive will eventually clog the airbrush regsrdless how meticulous you clean it after use.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:18:59 No.56872830 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872795
He was the first 1 found at the beginning of the crusade.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:19:34 No.56872839 Report

Quoted By: >>56872867

>>56872660
see >>56872588
if the rules are different for the event it's either an open play/weird casual event, or the rules will be even stricter.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:19:45 No.56872843 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872795
werent all primarchs made at the sametime? maybe horus was just the first one that the emperor found on his crusade

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:21:31 No.56872867 Report

Quoted By: >>56872925

>>56872839
It's the difference of like an independent local tourney for fun with small prize support or something that's gonna attract people out of state and be more serious. It all depends on what kind of event anon is going to and he should check the event rules out for himself.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:21:53 No.56872872 Report

Quoted By:

Any news on who/what won Heat 2 of the GT?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:21:54 No.56872873 Report

Quoted By: >>56872905

>>56872726
The one that layers up with Brass Scorp? That is how they paint their FW dreads, not troops though
But thanks for answering

>>56872694
I'll try to dig.
Google keeps trying to be smart and give me the garish 40k bright gold custodes

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:23:09 No.56872888 Report

Quoted By: >>56872911 >>56872919 >>56872929 >>56872931 >>56872955 >>56872981 >>56873468 >>56873601

Fuck GW with all their -1 to hit this edition. All my shitty daemon engines can barely even function now considering everyone I play against always picks the -1 to hit trait since its almost always the best out of any other choices.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:23:57 No.56872901 Report

Quoted By: >>56873545

>>56872153

No drone controllers?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:24:15 No.56872905 Report

Quoted By: >>56872994

>>56872873
https://objectivesecured.com.au/2017/04/legio-custodes-painting-guide-obsec-way/

These ones are pretty close and easy

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:24:33 No.56872911 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872888
Cawl would like to have a word with you

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:25:04 No.56872919 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872888
>plays anything chaos
serves you right

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:25:30 No.56872925 Report

Quoted By: >>56872954

>>56872867
>prize support.
>not a wacky list encouraging event
it will use the suggested rules.
It being a small local tournament means it's more likely they'll just use the suggestion from the core rule book.

The only way it won't is if the organizers never read that page at all. In which case you're going to an event in which the organizers never bothered to read the rulebook. ie terrible.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:26:00 No.56872929 Report

Quoted By: >>56872942 >>56872960

>>56872888

Learn 2 smite.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:26:04 No.56872931 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872888
You don't know suffering until you've tried Ork shooting this edition.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:26:47 No.56872942 Report

Quoted By: >>56873659

>>56872929
>>56872929

What if you play tau like me ? prepare my anus?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:27:49 No.56872954 Report

Quoted By: >>56872988 >>56872996

>>56872925
Every local tourney I've been to made their own rule packet and objective sets for us to use. And were the most balanced and fun games of 40k I got to play. No stupid spam bullshit, and no forgeworld shenanigans. If you only go to a tourney to win you're doing it wrong.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:27:52 No.56872955 Report

Quoted By: >>56873183

>>56872888
>mauler fiend
>only range weapon has too small a range for the -1 faction trait to matter

>heldrake
>autohits

the forgefiend did get fucked. Which sucks.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:28:01 No.56872960 Report

Quoted By: >>56872982

>>56872929
Anon i play Khorne Daemons what do i do?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:29:29 No.56872981 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872888
>everyone picks the -1 to hit tactic over fluff
WAACfags are true cancer
I'm glad my store owner (Blood Ravens player) is more interested in fluff and gave his Blood Ravens the Salamanders tactic to show how they have a bunch of relics also lets us make jokes about them stealing wargear because they chose the black guys tactic

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:29:30 No.56872982 Report

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>>56872960

Take a boat load of flying princes, get close fast, abuse targeting rules.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:29:31 No.56872983 Report

Quoted By: >>56873103

>>56872206
Anyone?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:29:52 No.56872988 Report

Quoted By: >>56873000

>>56872954
>stricter rules than those suggested in the book
I did say that was a possibility.

Letting you run as many detachments as you want is not a possibility if the tournament organizers have read the rules page.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:30:21 No.56872994 Report

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>>56872905
Hm, that looks pretty decent actually
Thanks a bunch

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:30:31 No.56872996 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872954

This is bait.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:31:17 No.56873000 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872988
No problemo my dude

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:32:38 No.56873017 Report

Quoted By: >>56873313

>>56872773
Oh no I mean use the blood angels ruleset my dude.

You can easily justify it for storm wardens as simply not knowing their parent legion. Lucifer engines reflect the Storm Wardens knack for armoured warfare while the special rules reflect the martial prowess.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:33:53 No.56873028 Report

Quoted By: >>56875039

Is an Autocannon/Las Sponson Predator basically a useless expensive heap compared to Las/Heavy Bolter and or Auto/Heavy Bolter?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:34:22 No.56873034 Report

Quoted By: >>56873051

>>56872649
do I not get this spray because australian?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:35:38 No.56873051 Report

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>>56873034
I'm in Canada, GW estore has no non primer sprays either

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:37:16 No.56873071 Report

Quoted By: >>56873078 >>56873087

So are Nids completely unaffected by Night Lords legion tactics?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:37:45 No.56873078 Report

Quoted By: >>56873190

>>56873071
not completely, just the ones in synapse range

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:38:49 No.56873087 Report

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>>56873071
no. Things that use leadership that aren't moral checks are still effected. If you take out the synapse it still works.

Do you mean "doesn't synapse prevent you from taking moral rolls"?, yes, that is what the rule says.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:39:44 No.56873103 Report

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>>56872983
there's a different thread for 40k rpg stuff

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:41:21 No.56873121 Report

Quoted By:

>>56870794
Blizzard Shields are 30 points now m8

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:42:55 No.56873147 Report

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>>56870711
you may not know this but you can charge units that aren't specifically good at melee with your units that are good at melee

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:44:21 No.56873168 Report

Quoted By: >>56873292

>>56872379
bumping for a r8ng

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:44:24 No.56873170 Report

Quoted By: >>56873189

Why has GW neglected beastmen in 40k?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:45:18 No.56873183 Report

Quoted By: >>56873302

>>56872955
forgetting defilers and all of the DG newfiends but leman russ are in the same position as we are

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:45:52 No.56873189 Report

Quoted By: >>56873214 >>56873251

>>56873170
Don't merit a kit beyond an upgrade sprue for IG.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:45:55 No.56873190 Report

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>>56873078
Which is basically all of them all the time if the Nid player is competent.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:47:38 No.56873214 Report

Quoted By: >>56873229 >>56873290 >>56873336 >>56873421

>>56873189
So why has GW neglected upgrading the guard line in 40k?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:48:37 No.56873229 Report

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>>56873214
Because they're not marines.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:50:05 No.56873251 Report

Quoted By: >>56873264

>>56873189
Not if they bothered to bring back the Lost and Damned.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:50:17 No.56873255 Report

Quoted By: >>56874096 >>56874105

My fire dragon exarch kitbash needs a name.
He's done too many epic things to not deserve it.

Short list:
In 7th:
Was charged by a Blizzard shield dreadnought. Killed it in overwatch.

Killed himself blowing up a tank 3 times.
Survived being shot by an entire tac squad in rapid fire range.

Shot down a Storm Raven.

In 8th

One shotted a mechanicum big robot.
Survived the being shot by the entire mechanicum infantry. Later a 20 man cultist squad.
Killed his entire squad blowing up a plane.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:51:04 No.56873264 Report

Quoted By: >>56873283

>>56873251
Have you seen Renegades and Heretics? GW doesn't give a fuck unfortunately.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:52:37 No.56873283 Report

Quoted By: >>56873410

>>56873264
>Have you seen Renegades and Heretics?
Yeah but it's not the same and that line is not only an incomplete mess because FW gives no shits but it is also one of the worst armies this edition.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:52:39 No.56873284 Report

Quoted By: >>56873297 >>56873322 >>56873354

Wait... it doesnt say anything about the starting characteristic anymore. Does that mean, for example, a Trygon Prime with 9 wounds left has to be closest and visible to be targeted?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:53:06 No.56873290 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873214

Marines sell, IG sell less.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:53:10 No.56873291 Report

Quoted By:

I thought that the new Fabius book was out on the 19th, but it's already out?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:53:12 No.56873292 Report

Quoted By: >>56873357

>>56873168
Lukas without any units of blood claws is a mistake.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:53:34 No.56873297 Report

Quoted By: >>56873322

>>56873284

RAW yes.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:53:46 No.56873302 Report

Quoted By: >>56873372

>>56873183
yep, and then it's completely worthless armies that get close.

Spend a turn moving up. Amazingly hard counter tactic to figure out.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:54:13 No.56873313 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873017
I know what you meant. What I was trying to say was that after years of running them as imperial fists successors, I felt bad enough running them as salamanders successors this edition, and they're in the same codex. Running them as something else entirely just doesn't sit right with me. Even if it is a good idea.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:54:52 No.56873322 Report

Quoted By: >>56873349 >>56873436

>>56873284
>>56873297
No, they already answered this in a facebook question. Their answer was the same as any sane person's, if they're talking about the wounds the unit has left then the text will say "wounds remaining."

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:55:41 No.56873336 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873214
except they didn't.
They did create a counter tactic to a guard list that wants to stay in the back line and never ever move.

Of course that list got reroll 1s on everything if they don't move.

And you know, let russes shoot twice to be extremely deadly.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:56:32 No.56873349 Report

Quoted By: >>56873389

>>56873322

Not a valid source of information until its in a printed FAQ on the community page.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:56:43 No.56873354 Report

Quoted By: >>56873436

>>56873284
yes, and you can name all your faction keyword "wu-tang clan" and combine any models together.
And use stratagems to reroll your opponents dice.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:56:51 No.56873357 Report

Quoted By: >>56873389

>>56873292
I looked into it but blood claws cost the exact same points wise as grey hunters. For 65 points you get +1 bs, a bolter, and access to the banner that lets you rerolls 1 to charge and advance. So they're probably not worth, but it was a memey list to turn my wolves into terror squads so who knows. I'm prob gonna try it this week and report back.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:57:47 No.56873372 Report

Quoted By: >>56873415

>>56873302
yeah, just run your artillery units within 12" of their target in which case they will have the heavy weapon penalty and still have -1. that is brilliant. you are a visionary. it gets better for DG when the plague crawler has a min range of 12"

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 02:59:31 No.56873389 Report

Quoted By: >>56873422

>>56873349
Okay, well in a couple weeks when it becomes a rule we can go back to playing the game how you know it should be played anyway.
>>56873357
Think about it this way. The character is pointed, ostensibly, based upon the value that he could potentially add to your army. Except that one of his most important parts you're choosing up front to not be able to use. You should not expect, then, for him to be worth the points that your paying for him.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:00:47 No.56873410 Report

Quoted By: >>56873445

>>56873283
That's my point, GW shoved traitor guard into the Forge World corner and Chapter Approved is the first time they paid attention to them and that was to nerf them.
GW doesn't care about them unfortunately. We're not getting anything for them, we're lucky they have rules at all with how much GW seems to hate anything that isn't power armor.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:01:20 No.56873415 Report

Quoted By: >>56873667

>>56873372
yes, because that army is going to really be good at hurting models within 12", clearly they took that trait to be able to do that.

>hitting on 5+ means you can never hit.
I get the running theme here, but it's not broken.

The only army that has a legit complaint is orks, because going from 5+ to 6+ is crippling, but

>plague crawler
Yep, death guard lists really hate getting close to their enemies. They just suck withing 12".

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:01:49 No.56873421 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873214
Too many different niched troop lines

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:01:59 No.56873422 Report

Quoted By: >>56873461

>>56873389

Fair point and I agree it should be played as such. However there are going to be people who won't acknowledge anything other than an FAQ.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:02:43 No.56873436 Report

Quoted By: >>56873496 >>56873500

>>56873322
If that were the case then why didn't they just copy and paste the wording from before and add the newest caveat? Or even just wrote the "This means..." statement. Both ways would have been far simpler than a rewrite.

"Remaining" is an unnecessary word in either case. They would have needed to retain the "characteristic" wording to preclude wounded models that start at 10+.

As it is now it does not.

>>56873354
reductio ad absurdum

Personally I think the new character rules are BS to begin with. They should never have been like this. Should have been joining units like 7e.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:03:01 No.56873445 Report

Quoted By: >>56873562

>>56873410
It's a shame too because of all times to have this this would be the perfect time what with the rift and all.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:04:03 No.56873461 Report

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>>56873422
>literally the wu-tang clan idiots.
It's if anything a benefit, it lets you know who you should refuse to play against ever.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:04:17 No.56873468 Report

Quoted By: >>56873557 >>56873632 >>56873714 >>56873865

>>56872888
>Starts death guard army
>"Hey let's figure out the eldar matchup"
>Looks at the 10 gorrilion defensive options that a single wave serpent has
>Throw in a -1 to hit on it because why the fuck not
>Cannot find anything in the DG book that can reliably do damage to it
>Sweats nervously

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:04:18 No.56873470 Report

Quoted By: >>56873533 >>56873596

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Officio-Assassinorum-Callidus-Assassin-oop-metal/332446947394?hash=item4d6761d842:g:uJ8AAOSwY~1aCF3e
>The pubes are painted

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:05:08 No.56873482 Report

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>>56872066
Yes but they're also catgirls

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:06:27 No.56873496 Report

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>>56873436
>Should have been joining units like 7e.
Please no. That was such an awful mechanic, especially when you could mix characters into units across codexes. The right rules isn't hard to come up with in this game, and people were coming up with very good alternatives before CA came out, it's just that GW screwed the pooch.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:06:43 No.56873500 Report

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>>56873436
>why not copy paste
Probably formatting for publishing.
Not to say that they don't need a copy editing department like no bodies business, but these mistakes are really easy to make if you don't get a copy editing department to catch these things.

>joining units.
yeah, because that doesn't add a whole mess of extra rules for basically the same point of 'you can't shoot this until you kill the troops in the way'.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:06:48 No.56873501 Report

Quoted By: >>56873517

So how common is a chaos cult on the average imperial planet?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:07:08 No.56873505 Report

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Can I use the veritas viatae on the extra relic?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:08:01 No.56873516 Report

Quoted By: >>56873555

Can you use both a Codex and an Index in a single army? For example the Sanguinary Priest can no longer take Jump Packs in the Codex, but he can in the Index. Can you use the Index version of him to take it, but also use models and rules for other units as they appear in the Codex? Can you pick and choose?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:08:16 No.56873517 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873501
Imperial Planets
---------------------- =% of Chaos Cults present
Plot

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:09:25 No.56873533 Report

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>>56873470
>In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, women still dye their hair a different color from their pubes.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:09:59 No.56873545 Report

Quoted By: >>56873576

>>56872901
I've been debating it.
Not sure what I want to stick them on as it would take away from the Commanders main roles and if I was going to do something like put one on a stealth team why not just take more drones?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:10:33 No.56873555 Report

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>>56873516
Codex overrides Index. But if it isn't in the Codex you use the Index.
Unit loadouts fall under that umbrella, use the Codex version, if not present, you can use the Index version.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:10:47 No.56873557 Report

Quoted By: >>56873667 >>56873676 >>56873701

>>56873468
>death guard
> a short range army with access to powerful auto-hit weapons.
>Oh no, how do I deal with things that give me a penalty to hit at range.

To give you a hint, blight drones, bloat drones, anything that can get into melee.

To give you the better tactics to use, the WS does shit damage against DG, so ignore them and shoot the other things. When the stuff gets out of the WS it will get one turn of shooting at you, then kill those things.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:11:11 No.56873562 Report

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>>56873445
I know, but the worst part is the only thing that needed a nerf was the Malefic Lord, everything else about R&H is barely playable shit, but instead of giving them anything at all, they increased points cost of some weapons and added a rules addition to Disciple squads that most people already used since common sense dictates that's how it works.
R&H is unfortunately only for allying a limited number of Guard tanks and vehicles into a Chaos Soup list or grabbing sniper mercenary marauders.
Plus Forge World is never going to update these rules, lazy cunts that they are.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:11:52 No.56873576 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873545
You've got loads of gun drones, a nice +1 helps a lot

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:13:21 No.56873596 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873470
I take it this guy never played in a FLGS. Least I hope not.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:13:43 No.56873601 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872888

I can't wait for peak Codex creep, which might be for the next bunch.
-1 to hit will probably have hard counters like a Strat for one unit to ignore all negatives flatout.
Then of course, dial the codices back down just in time for the Ork dex

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:15:05 No.56873632 Report

Quoted By: >>56873667 >>56873701

>>56873468
You know nothing about death guard

You have like a bazillion sources of mortal wounds. Use them.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:16:48 No.56873658 Report

Quoted By: >>56873694 >>56874028

If my custom Craftworld is essentially the forerunners from Halo, but buried under ice and dreaming will you make fun of me?

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:16:52 No.56873659 Report

Quoted By:

>>56872942
Dump a million S5 shots into them with your Fireblade + giant swarm of drones.

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:17:15 No.56873667 Report

Quoted By: >>56873811

>>56873415
the point is that demon engines are already expensive as shooters so having -1 (or more) to hit units everywhere makes them difficult to justify as shooters at all. oh and AL can run a pretty nasty melee army so your argument about the 12" bubble being countered by it belonging to bad melee armies is pretty circumstantial

>>56873557
DG melee units outside of the fleshmower drone and the DP typically have 4" or 5" movement. I don't know where you play that something with FLY that moves 16" is in any way threatened by DG melee.

>>56873632
psyker powers are the only reliable ones, unless the wave serpents are charging typhus. you have a meme understanding of DG

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:17:52 No.56873676 Report

Quoted By: >>56873811

>>56873557
To be honest bright Lances and shurriken cannons are dangerous

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:18:53 No.56873694 Report

Quoted By:

>>56873658
I've never played Halo and know nothing about it, so probably not,

Anonymous Mon 11 Dec 2017 03:19:22 No.56873701 Report

Quoted By: >>56873726 >>56873862 >>56873869

>>56873557
>>56873632

But what happens when you play a competent Eldar player who just continue to out range and screen you while blasting your dick off?

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