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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 06:54:12 2017 No.56942234 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56942293 >>56943050 >>56943124 >>56943288 >>56944597

Well, it's out. How is it?

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 06:59:32 No.56942293 Report

Quoted By: >>56942406 >>56942806

>>56942234
Wasn’t that blonde chick white? What tumblr filter did she get stuck in to turn into an American?

Indonesian Gentleman Fri 15 Dec 2017 07:08:57 No.56942406 Report

Quoted By: >>56943050

>>56942293
The pic is of Auntie Swordhobo Maya when she's younger. She used to have the key that Incubus now had.

And she is not Allison. Just to be clear.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 07:44:44 No.56942806 Report

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>>56942293
Allison isn't a natural blonde, she's (disappointingly) actually a brunette.

Also, KSBD is based around Eastern Religion, with particular emphasis on Zen Buddhism and Vedic Hinduism. It'd be weird to base your mythos around Asian religion and not have people look at least vaguely Asian.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 07:59:24 No.56942976 Report

Quoted By: >>56943003 >>56945261

Better question: has anyone here played Powered by the Apocolypse games? Apparently Broken Worlds is based on that system, and I'd like to know how good it is.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 08:02:21 No.56943003 Report

Quoted By: >>56944428 >>56945018

>>56942976
PbtA is an okay system for what it does, which is simplify RPGs into the most basic and bland formulaic play possible while expecting players to help make the game good. In other words, just like FATE: if your players are engaged, interested, and creative, it's good. If they aren't, it will suck hot shit worse than FATE can.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 08:06:41 No.56943050 Report

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>>56942234
>>56942406
What I'm wondering is if we're going to be seeing the other members of Maya's adventuring party in the comic. They're all members of races with natural immortality, so it seems possible that they'd still be alive if nothing killed them in the mean-time.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 08:13:06 No.56943124 Report

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>>56942234
I cant believe they managed to make an RPG so bland and forgettable with that setting. All in all I am just disappointed. Not even mad just kinda meh.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 08:29:54 No.56943288 Report

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>>56942234
Does anyone have a PDF? I'm a faggot who is too retarded to find it on my own.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 08:37:13 No.56943357 Report

Quoted By: >>56943733 >>56944066 >>56944706 >>56944792

>>56943124
You could always run your own homebrew with a generic ruleset like Savage Worlds

>>56943288
From the other thread: https://expirebox.com/download/a6ea692b7324f45ce677ae1faefa014e.html

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 09:27:05 No.56943733 Report

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>>56943357
>https://expirebox.com/download/a6ea692b7324f45ce677ae1faefa014e.html
Thanks. That over thread has transformed into a Star Wars discussion of all things.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 09:29:19 No.56943745 Report

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>>56943733
Seems to be the day for off-topic threads. Another thread at the moment on how hard it is to find a good roll20 game is now entirely about He-man for some reason.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 10:17:17 No.56944066 Report

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>>56943357
>You could always run your own homebrew with a generic ruleset like Savage Worlds

Then why the fuck even buy this?

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:09:32 No.56944428 Report

Quoted By: >>56944556 >>56944574 >>56945060 >>56945261

>>56943124
>bland and forgettable
I'm reading the rules as I write this, and it seems like there's too much simplicity. Roleplaying is great, but it looks like the rules don't represent characters that well because they're so basic, with little room for differentiation. On top of that, there's some weird stuff like armour being a SPENDABLE resource that you negate attacks with. Is that a normal Powered by the Apocalypse thing? It seems weird as fuck to me. I've never played any Powered by the Apocalypse game before. From what I can see, >>56943003 is right.

I'm all for taking existing generic systems and customising them to create an official RPG system so the wheel doesn't have to be reinvented again. But using PbtA seems almost, if not completely lazy. It looks like the easy way out, it's no wonder it's so bland.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:27:38 No.56944556 Report

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>>56944428
>but it looks like the rules don't represent characters that well because they're so basic, with little room for differentiation

Your archetype is your differentiation, and they should be really different, if not, it's a bad attempt at a PbtA (at least in this sense).

>On top of that, there's some weird stuff like armour being a SPENDABLE resource that you negate attacks with. Is that a normal Powered by the Apocalypse thing?

That's a thing in a lot of the more indie games actually, especially ones that use simple rules (many OSRs use similar things for shields and helmets for example).

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:31:27 No.56944574 Report

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>>56944428
>there's some weird stuff like armour being a SPENDABLE resource that you negate attacks with. Is that a normal Powered by the Apocalypse thing?
I don't know a fuckin' thing about PbtA, but I like the idea just because it seems appropriate to the way combat looks in K6BD. People's armor is always being cracked like an eggshell and crumbling off them from some crazy hyper-Vedic blow infused with Backwards Tao energy.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:34:56 No.56944591 Report

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>>56944574
I guess, but that seems more like due to Allison tangling with really fucking high power shit in the first place.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:36:02 No.56944597 Report

Quoted By: >>56944630 >>56944862

>>56942234
I skimmed it once and it didnt really look playing. Honestly, as cool as the setting is I wouldnt want to run a game in it. As a GM getting everybody on the same page lore-wise is important, as it ensures everybody knows what the hell is going on. Half the fun of KSBD is filling in new bits about the world that you couldnt have predicted from older elements, hence its not a great system to run an RPG in.

As for what you could use instead, you could probably actually run some street-level shit in Throne using hacked Dark Heresy. Everything's there: Guns, Magic, Lasers, Demons, Backflips, etc.

All you'd need to do is come up with templates for all the Inheritors and you're good to go.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:40:56 No.56944630 Report

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>>56944597
I somewhat agree with you. Street level stuff looks quite interesting, and the players could work up to being formidable, like that Gun witch in one of the earlier chapters.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:46:44 No.56944661 Report

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>>56944630
Honestly, street level stuff in Throne is the only way Id play in the KSBD universe. Thats why it came to mind. Its grounded, but still really weird, and its full of stuff that people have actual context for, like buildings, public transport, markets, etc.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 11:52:40 No.56944706 Report

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>>56943357
Thank you. Have a Cio.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:02:44 No.56944792 Report

Quoted By: >>56944811

>>56943357
>You could always run your own homebrew with a generic ruleset like Savage Worlds
Not that anon but the lore is fine. The rules just look like bland garbage.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:05:21 No.56944811 Report

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>>56944792
Yeah exactly. The lore in the book looks just fine. It's just the rules.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:10:43 No.56944862 Report

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>>56944597
>>56944630
>Half the fun of KSBD is filling in new bits about the world that you couldnt have predicted from older elements, hence its not a great system to run an RPG in.

PbtA games have this communal world building going on, which is good exactly for this kind of stuff.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:29:31 No.56945018 Report

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>>56943003
Why are you saying that as if it isn't true of all RPGs? D&D and Pathfinder are a fucking droll when you've got shitty players, too, you know.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 12:35:32 No.56945060 Report

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>>56944428
To be fair, I think this is Abadon's first crack at RPGs in general. Like, he came here for advice early on saying that he wanted to base it of DW instead of PbtA proper. After pointing out that DW is a shitshow that betrays its own goals, BW went though a LOT of revisions.

Now the man is apparently balls-deep in RPGs. I'm curious how his other two are going to shape up; I bet he learned a lot from this little project, and we'll probably see a much better Broken World 2e somewhere down the road.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 13:00:50 No.56945261 Report

Quoted By: >>56947134

>>56944428
>>56942976
Pretty much what >>56942976 said.

PbtA games are lightweight. They have really simple resolutions that are intuitive and easy to conform to any system. It appeals to casual players who want to sit down and play without spending much time making a character or learning the rules.

I have friends who have never played rpgs. They have jobs and children but are good players in that they are engaged and creative. PbtA works great for them because they are engaged by narrative elements supported by light mechanics.

If I had other players who liked tactical combat and simulationist rules, I’d obviously pick a different system, but PbtA works really well for casual players who are imaginative and invested.

If you’re new to the system though, play a one shot of Apocalypse World. The mechanics feel good and every resolution makes for different stories. Have also played Dungeon World and Masks which work fine, but AW continues to be my favorite.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 13:37:49 No.56945544 Report

Quoted By: >>56945772

>>56945018
He didn't talk about shitty players. I think the keyword here is "creative." Not that many people are creative, though they might be interested and engaged.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 14:04:31 No.56945772 Report

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>>56945544
I don't know about you, but it's not exactly fun role-playing with people without an ounce of wit or creativity. Being unimaginative definitely makes you a shitty player in my books.

Anonymous Fri 15 Dec 2017 16:22:30 No.56947134 Report

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>>56945261
So PbtA is fine if you've got creative players who don't care that much about mechanics? Sounds like a great fit for my group, I'll have to check it.

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