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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 21:02:24 2017 No.56981133 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56981230 >>56982177 >>56982241 >>56982762 >>56984328

Magnus is Anime Edition

>Previous
>>56977447

>duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cv6rhmiOeg

>FAQ update
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/

>FAQs, Errata, and Designer Commentary (all of them):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
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>Other Megas
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>Old Black Library Mega
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

>Math-hammer Updated for Tyranids? Math-Anon requests vetting
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10t6_FO9mTaG8FHY4B7v6hOQgwc3gXxUiIOrMYt16I6M/edit

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:04:31 No.56981165 Report

Quoted By: >>56981181 >>56981192 >>56981195 >>56981204 >>56981326 >>56982734 >>56984279 >>56985548

What's your tabletop standard for casual games? Most of my dudes are basecoated the main color of my chapter, with a good few of them having defining details painted on. I hit a slump months ago which is why they're painted like this. Hoping to maybe play a few small casual games in the future.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:04:52 No.56981172 Report

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First for 7th ed is best
It will not be the first post

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:04:57 No.56981174 Report

Quoted By: >>56983589

First for the First Legion

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:05:23 No.56981181 Report

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>>56981165
>whats your tabletop standard for casual games?
fully painted and based.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:05:53 No.56981192 Report

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>>56981165
I've primed all my stuff. Squads tend to have one or 2 models in each with a few painted.

I do have a decently painted Death Guard force, enough to make a full list which is fully painted. Locals were shocked at this, 'wow he has a fully painted army!'.

Its cool to see that.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:06:07 No.56981195 Report

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>>56981165
My stuff is always 100% painted.

As long as you're making progress I don't mind what state your models are in. (although all primed black is worse than unpainted...)

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:06:35 No.56981200 Report

Quoted By: >>56981249

Dark traitors pdf when?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:06:42 No.56981204 Report

Quoted By: >>56982507

>>56981165
The standard I hold others to is the three colors rule but I personally dont want to field a model that isnt fully done up with detail work also

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:07:16 No.56981217 Report

Quoted By: >>56981328

FW sent me the wrong sided claw with my wrecking ball Carnifex wheeeee

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:07:23 No.56981222 Report

Quoted By: >>56981636

-Archon 54
>agoniser 4
>parasites kiss 0
(58)

-Venom 65
>2 splinter cannons 30
(95)

-5 Kabalite trueborn 55
>4 blasters 60
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blast pistol 10
(128)

-Raider 95
>Disintegrator Cannon 30
>shock prow 1
(126)

-9 Kabalite warriors 63
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blaster 15
(88)

-3 Reavers (+1T) 90
>agoniser 4
>blaster 15
>grav talon 5
(114)

-Ravager 95
>3 dark lances 60
>shock prow 1
(156)

-10 scourges 140

TOTAL: 905

How’s this for a basic Kabal list? Dunno how to fill that last 95 points

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:07:33 No.56981227 Report

Quoted By: >>56981273 >>56981274

Should I model my Fire Warrior Sha'ui with a pistol or finger-poiting?

Also is there any brief summary of T'au drones usability? I don't know if I should assemble Guardian Drone or just another Shield Drone

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:07:44 No.56981230 Report

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>>56981133
thats not duncan thats sargon

count dankula was p gud

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:08:21 No.56981249 Report

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>>56981200
probably in the next week or two, chill

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:09:53 No.56981266 Report

Quoted By: >>56981314 >>56981464 >>56981517 >>56981871

Honestly I'm not sure I get the whole "Unforgiven" angst and secrecy thing. Why is it such a big deal to the Dark Angels that some assholes came from their legion ten thousand damn years ago? Do they even have a Bjorn-style dread who remembers those times? Any living link at all?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:10:22 No.56981273 Report

Quoted By: >>56981869

>>56981227
>pistol or finger poiting?
finger pistol'ing
>brief summary of T'au drones usability?
gun drones shoot, markerlight drones help you get markerlights, and shielddrones allow you to pass 1 wound off, however, you can also pass that off to your gun or ML drones, they just lack the invuln, making them slightly less durable
if you want either shield or guardian, i believe they have the same point cost and stats/abilities, but guardian gives your guys a invuln iirc.
my words probably not the best here tho, since i play mostly without drones.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:10:25 No.56981274 Report

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>>56981227
Gun drones: makes a nearby infantry or battlesuit immune to one weapon shot, be it a bolter or lascannon or massive nuke, also has 4 carbine shots

Shield drones: same thing but has a 5+ FNP so it might survive taking the shot, no guns tho

guardian drone: has a 5++, gives breachers 5++ aswell, doesnt affect anyone else but still intercepts shots

honestly breacher teams went from being solid in 7th to shit in 8th, so guardian drones are not really a priority to build

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:12:46 No.56981314 Report

Quoted By: >>56981504 >>56981766

>>56981266
The "fallen" are loyalist dark angels. They are being hunted down and exterminated for having those memories you speak of. The dark angels legion is still fully intact and their hypnoprogramming and layered secrets keep a protective outer shell of supposedly loyal marines while the inner circle go about their treasonous work.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:13:34 No.56981326 Report

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>>56981165
Fully painted, regardless of quality

Base optional. I personally hate it when bases don't match the table.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:13:40 No.56981328 Report

Quoted By: >>56981377

>>56981217
Just make an asymettrifex

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:16:27 No.56981372 Report

Quoted By: >>56981492 >>56981633 >>56983175

Are the Grey Knights good in 8th? Haven't played for a while because I got tired of having to take Dreadknights to be viable.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:16:41 No.56981377 Report

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>>56981328

I'm tempted to give him a wrecking ball on one side and Scytals on the other, yeah.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:16:52 No.56981383 Report

Quoted By: >>56981695 >>56981958

Help me write better homebrew spells by telling me what I'm doing wrong
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ASGQJccpgImp4fpUxJ8wmtauDS7asFqRusnh-m0gHo/edit#gid=0

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:17:50 No.56981395 Report

Quoted By: >>56981411 >>56981416 >>56981419 >>56981427 >>56981611

When you've decided that citadel paints are way too fucking expensive, what are some good alternative brands?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:19:03 No.56981411 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981395
Vallejo

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:19:20 No.56981416 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981395
Vallejo

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:19:32 No.56981419 Report

Quoted By: >>56981435

>>56981395
Army Painter, P3, Valejo

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:20:12 No.56981427 Report

Quoted By: >>56981435

>>56981395
Valejo, Army Painter, P3.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:21:03 No.56981435 Report

Quoted By: >>56981739

>>56981427
>>56981419
I've never been a huge fan of P3. What am I missing here?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:23:05 No.56981464 Report

Quoted By: >>56981882 >>56984283

>>56981266
Originally (and in some contemporary lore) the legions joined Horus or remained loyal in their entirety. Except for the Dark Angels hence dirty secret. That's all rather gotten muddied up now with the Istvaan III massacre and the scouring.

So instead the other legions as far as we know dealt with their rebel problems whereas for the DA their traitorous brethren are still around and just keep popping up because rather than being scoured like the other legions the DA were robbed of the ability to redeem their chapter when the Dark gods threw the fallen into the warp. There's also the problem that the DA just hold themselves up to a higher standard than every one else. Of course there were rebel Space wolves they're basically just animals, obviously Ultramarines fell their high ideals make them easy prey for corruption etc etc but a full third of our own? Unacceptable!

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:23:38 No.56981476 Report

Quoted By: >>56981501 >>56981554 >>56981774 >>56983182

Ey, chart-anon still here. Got a new 1v1 calculator chart going, give me something to pit against each other.

Solitaire beats an Eversor by the way.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:24:45 No.56981492 Report

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>>56981372
Dreadknight is viable, meanwhile GK are one of the weakest army AND they are nerfing smite on top of that.
Truly the monkey paw, I feel sorry for you.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:25:21 No.56981501 Report

Quoted By: >>56981705

>>56981476
Tallyman vs cryptek

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:25:33 No.56981504 Report

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>>56981314
Someone wants to have a chat with you. Pic related.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:26:19 No.56981517 Report

Quoted By: >>56981609 >>56981841

>>56981266
At this point it's not even the secret traitors, it's all the outright treasonous shit they've done to keep covering it up.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:28:06 No.56981546 Report

Quoted By: >>56981581

So how many casualties do you think they take to get these augments on these fellows?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:28:40 No.56981554 Report

Quoted By: >>56982106

>>56981476
Patriarch vs Lord of Contagion with Plaguereaper

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:30:16 No.56981581 Report

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>>56981546
None. Ogryns are stupidly loyal. It would probably go kinda like this:
>"Hey Bork, Emperor wants you to have these claws."
>"K Boss"
>"Now go kill these guys over there, Emperor wants it"
>"Alright boss"

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:31:02 No.56981592 Report

Quoted By: >>56981607

Fires of Cyraxus when?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:31:45 No.56981607 Report

Quoted By: >>56981736

>>56981592
February.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:31:46 No.56981609 Report

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>>56981517
like being the last people to see a Black Templar strike cruiser and being busy some times? Treason I say!

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:31:56 No.56981611 Report

Quoted By: >>56981669

>>56981395
>When you've decided that citadel paints are way too fucking expensive
Not there yet.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:33:02 No.56981633 Report

Quoted By: >>56982266

>>56981372
Competitive GK units:
GMDK
GM
Librarian with stormshield and warding stave
Draigo
Strike squads
Purgation squads

Terrible GK units:
Everything else

Its a shame the buffed fire raptor cant be GK but oh well

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:33:14 No.56981636 Report

Quoted By: >>56981768

>>56981222
As for last few points you may want to give some of your scourges darklances or splinter cannons depending on what you want to do.My only concern for your list is that your anti-tank is too focused in one location meaning it can be taken out easily.
You may also want to take another squad of kabalites to allow you to make a patrol detachment.Given the fact you have a squad of 9 suggests you don't have the models.unless you want him in the raider. Given the list you will be starved for command points.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:35:26 No.56981669 Report

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>>56981611
I envy you

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:37:08 No.56981695 Report

Quoted By: >>56981735

>>56981383
Writing homebrews in the first place

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:37:29 No.56981705 Report

Quoted By: >>56981755

>>56981501
Oddly specific, but sure. Both of them are relatively tanky and deal fuck all damage. Tallyman takes 4 turns to kill the cryptek, cryptek takes 4.65. Tallyman wins!

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:38:51 No.56981735 Report

Quoted By: >>56981765

>>56981695
The alternative is putting up with GWs incompetence, so no thanks.
If you have something more specific and constructive to say I'll gladly listen.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:38:55 No.56981736 Report

Quoted By: >>56981749

>>56981607
Really? Source?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:39:05 No.56981739 Report

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>>56981435
Coal black is fantastic highlight color for black. P3 also is very opaque so if you need strong coverage it's good for that. Their medium mixing is bit terrible so paints do go bad pretty easily.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:39:35 No.56981749 Report

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>>56981736
X released in February is a meme. Ignore it.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:39:41 No.56981753 Report

Quoted By: >>56981771

>tfw you cut the hand from the arm just right, so you can reuse both parts

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:39:42 No.56981755 Report

Quoted By: >>56982321

>>56981705
Did you account for the cryptek healing a wound each turn?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:40:29 No.56981765 Report

Quoted By: >>56981817

>>56981735
You could just not play the game

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:40:31 No.56981766 Report

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>>56981314
REPENT MOTHER FUCKER

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:40:32 No.56981768 Report

Quoted By: >>56982016 >>56982073

>>56981636
I’m using the 9 because I want the archon in the raider. I was told in the last thread that any anti tank beyond a blaster venom and a ravager is WAAC, and that splinter cannons on scourges just aren’t worth what you get out of it

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:40:38 No.56981771 Report

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>>56981753
It's called a file and greenstuff.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:40:40 No.56981774 Report

Quoted By: >>56982340 >>56983012 >>56983173

>>56981476
Maybe Asterion Moloc vs some of the other Chapter Masters? I'm curious how he stacks up against them in 8th edition.

Also, would you mind sharing your calculator?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:41:52 No.56981796 Report

Quoted By: >>56981809 >>56981938

Secret Santa here when?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:42:24 No.56981804 Report

Quoted By: >>56983201

Reminder that you might as well not play if they're not going to try.

Waac>caac

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:42:47 No.56981809 Report

Quoted By: >>56981938

>>56981796
Do you really want that? Do you really want someone from 4chan to have your home address?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:42:53 No.56981814 Report

Quoted By: >>56982386 >>56982412 >>56982484 >>56985892

What are some big guys to convert into a warboss that aren't the ironjawz guy? Looking for about as big as a meganob, ideally slightly bigger.
No 3rd party incase I want to go to a gw store.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:42:58 No.56981817 Report

Quoted By: >>56981829 >>56981846

>>56981765
Being able to change the rules yourself is the best part of tabletop games. Besides I want to be able to play, my army's rules just suck so hard they are literally unplayable outside of one unfun broken build that I refuse to play because playing it is terrible for everyone involved.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:43:47 No.56981829 Report

Quoted By: >>56981909

>>56981817
>my army just suck so hard
>outside of one unfun broken build
Tau commander spam?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:44:30 No.56981841 Report

Quoted By: >>56982866

>>56981517
to be fair, if the inquisition found out that even a few of their fold turned to heresy like that, they could, and would, purge them all.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:44:46 No.56981846 Report

Quoted By: >>56981909

>>56981817
>Being able to change the rules yourself is the best part of tabletop games
kys cheater.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:45:07 No.56981851 Report

Quoted By: >>56982324 >>56983652

What are effective loadouts for noise marines?

The 5 man w/ sonic and blastmaster is the obvious answer.

Is a chainsword/power weapon loadout good?

The ones I have conidered are:
>4 sonic, 1 blastmaster
>5 sonic (suicide squad)
>5 bolter (suicide squad)
>4 chainsword, 1 power weapon (melee/suicide squad)
>8 sonic, 2 blastmasters

Trying to make a NM heavy (6 units) army, and am considering what all to do.

I have 3 squads of 4 sonic, 1 blastmaster already

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:45:34 No.56981863 Report

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Looking for Daemon Prince inspiration, preferably kitbashed from GW stuff not just 3rd party models

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:45:41 No.56981867 Report

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Why is the FW towed artillery so shit ?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:45:46 No.56981869 Report

Quoted By: >>56981905

>>56981273
Ignore this guy he knows nothing.
You can take a wound of any hit from any drone (All the damage too, so they will steal lascannon d6 damage hits on your broadsides).

You don't get a save but shield drones have a fnp.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:45:52 No.56981871 Report

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>>56981266
It's because a full third of the Legion went traitor

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:46:21 No.56981882 Report

Quoted By: >>56981923 >>56982059

>>56981464
Actually alot of legions had many traitors, same with the heretics themselves who had alot of loyalists.

As Cypher put it, the issue was that we didnt own up to it like all the other legions. We hid it away, to the point that this lie has consumed us as much as it has.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:47:20 No.56981905 Report

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>>56981869
>ignore this guy he knows nothing.
okay.jpg
you're probably right tho

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:47:37 No.56981909 Report

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>>56981829
Thousand Son, outside of Magnus lists they're terrible. What I posted in the first place was some extra spells for Thousand Sons.

>>56981846
Obviously I'd only do it if my opponent agreed to it silly.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:48:07 No.56981922 Report

Quoted By: >>56981926 >>56981952 >>56982048

How much anti tank is enough for a dark eldar list at 1000 points?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:48:12 No.56981923 Report

Quoted By: >>56981956 >>56982019 >>56982059

>>56981882
This is the only hesitations I have to picking up DA. I like their origin lore, the descent of angels book was one of my favorites.

But the lion is such a tool when it comes to his own sons. You can't find a more perfect storm to have renegades sprout up than to do what he did

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:48:26 No.56981926 Report

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>>56981922
10000

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:49:11 No.56981938 Report

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>>56981796
/Wip/ thread

>>56981809
Use a PO box if youre worried

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:49:13 No.56981940 Report

Quoted By: >>56982008

so due partly to a boredom of playing them currently and the proposed changes to smite utterly butchering them, I'm going to be dropping my Sons for the foreseeable future. However, I still want to have a fun third army, so I want to pick up Genestealer cults next.

Anyone got a fun, fluffy list for them that features lots of purestrains? I want to take a look at future purchases to start playing them.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:50:15 No.56981952 Report

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>>56981922
Every unit should be able to solo kill a transport tank in one turn.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:50:23 No.56981956 Report

Quoted By: >>56981967

>>56981923
>caring about lore.
If you like the models/rules just buy the thing and stop being a faggot

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:50:36 No.56981958 Report

Quoted By: >>56982027

>>56981383
In the case of Fiery Form, the intangibility aspect could be represented like in the Weaver of Fates power (1+ to inv. saves, 5++ inv. save if the target doesn't have one). Of course, that would require for the WC to Ben increased.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:50:45 No.56981964 Report

Quoted By: >>56981986 >>56982068

r8 my 2000 point list anons

2000 points 5CP

Vanguard
2x Patriarch
2x 20 Purestrain Genestealers
1x 10 Purestrain Genestealers

Spearhead
2x Company Commander - Shotguns + chainsword

4x 3 Mortar HWTs
1x 3 Manticore Platform
1x 2 Manticore Platform

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:50:49 No.56981967 Report

Quoted By: >>56981979 >>56981998

>>56981956
lore is a big deal to me, so shoot me

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:51:30 No.56981979 Report

Quoted By: >>56982009

>>56981967

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:51:58 No.56981986 Report

Quoted By: >>56982024

>>56981964
>50 Genestealers

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:52:23 No.56981998 Report

Quoted By: >>56982009

>>56981967
but dark angels and salamanders have some of the most interesting lore.

Loyalist marines are inherently boring as shit. chaos too for different reasons. DA at least are different enough to stand apart from most loyalist shit. You're confusing the memes with canon.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:52:55 No.56982008 Report

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>>56981940
Have 2 big squads, 1 with Primus, one with Patriarch. Summon them on separate turns so you can make use of the stratagem twice to make things reliable.

Consider what your opponent has, if you fear overwatch give your patriarch mass hypnosis, if you just wanna crump things, give him might from beyond.

Rest is up to you really.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:52:57 No.56982009 Report

Quoted By: >>56982039

>>56981998
It's too late for me, i am dead >>56981979

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:53:24 No.56982016 Report

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>>56981768
Most of that is true. Indeed the main reason I recommended the weapons is your 95 points left over. You could spend it on more kabalites without a boat a poor idea admittedly more bodies?
But sadly if you're not willing to take WAAC options such as dark lances. The ability to put out more shots even if they will die near instantly isn't a bad option.
If you have some "court of the archon" models they may be worth putting in an extra venom as lhamaeans are dirt cheap now along with the rest of the court.
Other than that you will have to find somebody better to get this list the way you want it to be.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:53:40 No.56982019 Report

Quoted By: >>56982031

>>56981923

The Lion has alot of good traits, his main issue is truely relating to other people. You must remember that all the primarchs have flaws. Girlyman might be the current posterboy, but he has his flaws and closet of skeletons so to speak.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:54:00 No.56982024 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981986
I did originally only have 45 with an Iconward, but one of the company commanders will be my warlord for either grand-strategist or old grudges

>12d6 mortars and 20d6 lascannons all rerolling failed wounds against a target of your choosing turn 1

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:54:02 No.56982027 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981958
That's what it originally was, but someone pointed out that there might be too much invuln save stacking.
And alternative would be to hit modifiers but that would be way too powerful.

Perhaps your suggestion but with a no higher than 3++ clause would be fine.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:54:24 No.56982031 Report

Quoted By: >>56985167

>>56982019
My dislike for him started with how he handled zahariel, and then it was cemented with what happened to nemiel..

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:55:08 No.56982039 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982009
>Yet another victim of the lore. The poor bastard.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:55:33 No.56982048 Report

Quoted By: >>56982089

>>56981922
Enough to kill 2-3 tanks on average one turn of shooting.

Armor is always the biggest bitch. Take something reliable for them.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:56:14 No.56982059 Report

Quoted By: >>56982084

>>56981882
it's almost like you didn't read my post or something

>>56981923
I feel like they're trying to legitimise Luthor's rebellion. before it was all
>Hey best buddy, you're my best buddy and this is the thing that's most important to me. Could you look after it so I know every thing is comfy while I go off and do some dangerous shit
Now it's
>Hi dude I never really related to, go over there and look after your home that I've destroyed while I go and have awesome adventures without you because you're lame

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:56:46 No.56982068 Report

Quoted By: >>56982079 >>56982099

>>56981964
Cunt out of 10
Not a real GSC list, just a tyranid WAAC spam list with guard

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:56:54 No.56982073 Report

Quoted By: >>56982090 >>56982161

>>56981768
anon from the last thread here
no, you misunderstood me, anon.

I said that that was what -I- ran.

I don't think that pure drukhari CAN go really WAAC-ey right now, but I also run hellions and reavers in my 1000 point list.

pic is from a GSC 2000 point game I had a few months ago

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:57:41 No.56982079 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982068
>Not a real GSC list, just a tyranid WAAC spam list with guard

1: its a real GSC list you are just a pussy bitch
2: its intended for tournaments anyway

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:58:09 No.56982084 Report

Quoted By: >>56982288

>>56982059
Maybe because I am new and started in on the lore in the last year, but it's completely the latter.

Everyone else beside luther got completely and totally buttfucked for no damn reason.

They even took their assignment faithfully, and never even got the courtesy of a fucking astro message. Totally forgotten.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:58:32 No.56982089 Report

Quoted By: >>56982115

>>56982048
Except deldar generally have trouble dealing with massed infantry.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:58:33 No.56982090 Report

Quoted By: >>56982180

>>56982073
>mounting your heavy weopon team on a tank

Genius

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:58:52 No.56982099 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982068
So it's a gsc list then.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:59:16 No.56982106 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981554
Gotcha. Fun fact, Patriarch is one of the biggest pains in the ass to calculate, because his rending and reroll to wound interact in funky ways that require a lot of fiddling to get right. Anyway. Lord of Contagion deals 5.69 damage, killing the Patriarch in almost exactly one turn, and the Patriarch deals 4.87 (not inconsiderable considering how bloody tough the LoC is) and kills it in 1.23 turns, giving a narrow win to the LoC.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 21:59:40 No.56982115 Report

Quoted By: >>56982169 >>56982180

>>56982089
How are they against tanks?

Inb4 they have trouble

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:02:37 No.56982161 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982073
Ok then. I guess I can throw a lance on the raider and on about half my scourges, or run my scourges in 2 squads of 5, and equip one with lances.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:03:02 No.56982169 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982115
If you spam darklances? No issue and you have no issue spamming lances while scourge exist.Even without scourge getting lances isn't hard.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:03:34 No.56982177 Report

Quoted By: >>56982194 >>56983266 >>56983315 >>56985396 >>56985418

>>56981133
Why are Tau so based, /tg/?
>Best technology they understand and actively work to improve
>Rational and selfless ideology willingly adhered to be everyone
>Veterans are more experienced and competent than anyone else's
>Rational tactics, never charge into melee like retards, instantly grasp the primitive tactics of everyone else
>Star is on the rise, they will inevitably conquer the Imperium & Chaos alongside all other xenos

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:03:40 No.56982180 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982090
that's a chimaera. He was indicating that he had a squad mounted inside.

>>56982115
We shred tanks and MEQs

they get fucked up by massed infantry.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:04:55 No.56982194 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982177
>

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:05:28 No.56982202 Report

Quoted By: >>56982261 >>56982288

>Fallen gathering in number to bring the galaxy to heel.
Did they multiply over 10k years?
Cause a fraction of a legion isn't conquering shit

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:08:52 No.56982241 Report

Quoted By: >>56982332

>>56981133
>Magnus no Yome
I'd watch it.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:10:27 No.56982261 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982202
If there are suddenly 15 000 Space Marines in one system, conquering is going to be A Thing. And it'll be a slog to get rid of them. And before anyone starts yammering about such number, the Legions of old were usually in the 100k+ range. If a full 3rd of the Dark Angels went rogue, you're easily looking at that sort of number,

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:11:01 No.56982266 Report

Quoted By: >>56982466

>>56981633
I never got an answer on the Storm Shield Librarian thing from GW. According to the chart they released, it should be fine, but I asked here and nearly got my head chewed off for being a cheesing faggot by wanting a single storm shield on a single model. Also, Paladins are on the competitive unit list.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:12:49 No.56982288 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982084
To be fair that should be how some but not all of the fallen perceive it the problem I think is that the writers have got lost in their own contrivances. Luther was better as Lancelot

>>56982202
To be fair we're looking at what 50-100k Marines many of whom have started their own cults and warbands and with some who may remember the locations of and indeed be equipped with tech from the old night I mean it still sound like gross hyperbole and I'm pretty sure part of the point of the fallen is that they can't bloody agree on anything so I don't see them forming a army of any major size bu we've got to have some flavour text right?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:13:29 No.56982298 Report

Quoted By: >>56982342 >>56982346 >>56982365 >>56982367 >>56982739 >>56983778

is this 3d-printed titan looks nice?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:14:43 No.56982321 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981755
Ach, no I didn't. Right now I'm not considering degrading statlines or loss of damage from troop deaths, since those are a pain, but this one is easier to chart since it's just subtract a wound dealt per turn.

Regardless, I'd made an error in the previous calculation, my apologies! Turns out neither will kill another in the length of a normal game. Tallyman takes 6.11 turns, Cryptek takes 7.36. Tallyman still wins!

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:14:47 No.56982324 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981851
bump

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:15:26 No.56982332 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982241
My Ahriman can't be this cute

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:16:16 No.56982340 Report

Quoted By: >>56982392

>>56981774
Sure thing, it's in the OP. It's still WIP and a few errors keep cropping up, but I'm reasonably confident in it now. It's this tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10t6_FO9mTaG8FHY4B7v6hOQgwc3gXxUiIOrMYt16I6M/edit#gid=1549977001

I'm gonna do Daddy Minotaur vs others in a bit.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:16:22 No.56982342 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298
only the painting. That model looks like shit.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:16:37 No.56982346 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298
Of course not. It's a titan. They all look bad

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:18:01 No.56982365 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298
Not amazing, but certainly not bad.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:18:14 No.56982367 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298
No

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:19:28 No.56982386 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981814
bump

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:20:04 No.56982392 Report

Quoted By: >>56982445 >>56982481 >>56983012 >>56983944

>>56982340
Thanks chart-anon!

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:20:50 No.56982402 Report

Quoted By: >>56982439 >>56982507 >>56983154 >>56983236 >>56983774 >>56984162

Post your collections

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:21:21 No.56982412 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981814
crisis suits :^ )

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:23:11 No.56982439 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982402
Anon, I really don't feel like setting out 3 armies today.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:23:31 No.56982445 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982392
Milk-from-nostrils inducing image.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:24:50 No.56982458 Report

Quoted By: >>56983230

What's a good core for a space marine army? Thinking about a melee-weighted army and I'd like to have a good amount of infantry in there.

Basically, if I want to get started with, say, a 1000 point SPESS MEHREEN army around those parameters, what'd be a good way to go about it?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:25:09 No.56982466 Report

Quoted By: >>56982513

>>56982266
> According to the chart they released, it should be fine

it is fine, ignore the casual fags here

>paladins competitive
>needs a warlord trait to have only a 50% chance to make a charge

lmao no they fucking arn't, 3 wounds is a pittance for thier cost and just taking strike teams instead nets you way more damage over multiple matches

if they had 4++ and/or something to let them charge more reliably which is better than rerolls and doesn't require a warlord trait, then I might reconsider

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:26:31 No.56982481 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982392
>THOTH
Space Marines confirmed as members of thot-patrol?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:26:37 No.56982484 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981814
Helbrute? some random walker? Converted Ghazkull? you're asking for something that doesn't exist if you aren't going 3rd party and refuse to use Ironjawz models

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:27:48 No.56982507 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982402

>>56981204
I haven't taken a group shot since I moved. There's a few more foot marines and three bikes besides what you already see here, plus a squad of IG. I've also got 2 converted drop sentinels primed and some bikers that are going to be finished either tomorrow or the next day.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:28:06 No.56982513 Report

Quoted By: >>56982537

>>56982466
>tfw I have 15 terminators/5 Unbuilt and 20 power armor dudes
I need more power armor dudes but we just suck so fucking bad, I really don't feel like painting up another 10 just to get my shit kicked in a little softer.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:30:16 No.56982537 Report

Quoted By: >>56982602

>>56982513
I normally ally in scions or raven guard usually, RG for the auto charge turn 1 melee and scions for the overwhelming dakka and plasma to go with GKs strike teams

also, add another unit to that list which i forgot about, psyfledreads

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:34:30 No.56982598 Report

Quoted By: >>56982742 >>56982766 >>56983110

What's an unreasonable number of genestealers and how much will they cost me?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:34:48 No.56982602 Report

Quoted By: >>56982621

>>56982537
I wish they were good without having to ally regular SM. Good thing I have a psyfledread, at least. Astral Aim and he's shooting people through walls. Not sure if I want to try Autocannon/Lascannon or just double Autocannons.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:36:55 No.56982621 Report

Quoted By: >>56982641

>>56982602
if you dont have any GMDKs you could use one or two lascannon ones, but generally its autocannon all the way

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:38:24 No.56982638 Report

Quoted By: >>56982648 >>56982686 >>56982707 >>56982755

Should I bite the bullet and get into 40k? I don't have any friends who play it...

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:38:45 No.56982641 Report

Quoted By: >>56982702

>>56982621
I have 2 NDK's that I used to run in 7th, but regular NDK's are strictly worse this edition because there's no such thing as relentless anymore. I would try 2 GMNDK's but damn, that's 500+ points on 2 models.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:38:58 No.56982645 Report

Quoted By: >>56982786 >>56982833

Why are so few people painting their tau dudes metalic? Are crisis suits or FW bitch to paint with metalic paints or something?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:39:41 No.56982648 Report

Quoted By: >>56982664

>>56982638
Do you have a LGS?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:41:08 No.56982664 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982648
Yeah, but they don't play 40k. I check on the website and they don't even sell any 40k minis... There is a GW around an hour away from my house.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:42:25 No.56982679 Report

Quoted By: >>56982728 >>56983377

I'm looking to get into 40k. I've decided to start with guard. My favorite regiment is the steel legion, but they don't seem to ever be in stock. I'm not in any rush, but I wouldn't mind starting to paint something. Should I keep waiting for Steel legion or should I just settle with some boring Cadians? Cadians seem to have far better regiment commands than the steel legion anyway.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:42:46 No.56982686 Report

Quoted By: >>56982700

>>56982638
Try to talk your friends into buying a start collecting box each and play small point games or kill team games. That's what I am doing - I bought a Tau SC box because I liked models and their lore. Then my GF decided to buy necrons box, my other friend wanted to have a big, neat tank on his shelf so he bought an IG SC box etc. Now we have a small group of players to play 500-1000pts games. Also two-player starter sets are great - models are easy-to-build so they are newbie friendly and they are also a good deal budget-wise

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:43:34 No.56982700 Report

Quoted By: >>56982803

>>56982686
Thank you for the advice.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:43:43 No.56982702 Report

Quoted By: >>56982719 >>56982725

>>56982641
its worth if you can make the charge, swords + psi + psy + teleport is the only viable loadout though

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:44:09 No.56982707 Report

Quoted By: >>56982750

>>56982638
Well if you socialize easily you can make friends at your LGS (beware "those guys"), however I suggest you buy the cheapest smallest interesting unit of your faction, paint it fully with 3-4 colors and if you enjoy yourself, make an army.
Also, golden rule:
If you have unpainted minis, don't buy another box.
Also, golden life rule:
Life's expenses>WH expenses

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:45:02 No.56982719 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982702
>if you can make the charge
I fail 2+'s like it's no one's business. I should probably play an army that relies less on the dice. Or is just better.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:45:37 No.56982725 Report

Quoted By: >>56982888

>>56982702
>sword
Huh? I thought that Hammer>>>Sword by a long shot, since you already get rerolls, and the 3 damage minimum helps more?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:45:45 No.56982728 Report

Quoted By: >>56982847

>>56982679
Steel legion are, crunch wise, one of the weakest regiments and their entire model line is still in metal.

What I did was just took cadian models and painted them AS steel legion. You miss out on some of the aesthetic, but I'd say it's a fair tradeoff than the massive amount of cash you'd have to sink to get a full army with the proper models.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:46:13 No.56982734 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981165
Fully painted, although some of them are pretty shitty 'cos I did them at 4am before a tournament.

Occassionally might take one unit that's unpainted if I've just bought it, but I try to get it at least mostly done before using it.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:46:32 No.56982738 Report

Quoted By: >>56982748 >>56982751 >>56983721

>at LGS
>player 1 is shooting player 2
>player 1's gun has ap -4
>it hits player 2's dude like 5 times
>player 2 has the choice of either not having a save, or using his 4+ invuln save
>obviously he would be using his invuln save
>player 2 rolls
>makes all his saves
>table is like ayyyyyy lmao
>player 1: "you have to declare if you're using your invuln save a bloo bloo bloo"
>player 1 cries so much 2 just concedes and takes an important unit off the field
Today was a bad day.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:46:34 No.56982739 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298
I find it serviceable the question though is how much did it cost to produce? Due to my degree I can use the cost to figure out the worth-ability of the model by comparison to the real thing.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:46:36 No.56982740 Report

Quoted By: >>56982774

>he plays a marine army

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:46:41 No.56982742 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982598
10^86 is probs an unreasonable amount

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:47:42 No.56982748 Report

Quoted By: >>56982857

>>56982738
I'm pretty sure the rules actually say you always use whatever the higher save is as of 8e.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:47:50 No.56982750 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982707
Thank you, however, I know what colours and units I want to go for! :)

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:47:55 No.56982751 Report

Quoted By: >>56982761

>>56982738
What kind of autism leads to this situation.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:48:10 No.56982755 Report

Quoted By: >>56982772

>>56982638
I didn't have any friends before i stated but now i do
go for it

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:48:40 No.56982761 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982751

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:48:42 No.56982762 Report

Quoted By: >>56983076

>>56981133
>Mordians, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, and Ulthwe Aledari were defeated by Magnus and his forces in the Dark Angel codex.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:48:45 No.56982765 Report

Quoted By: >>56983087

Is the Castellum stronghold good?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:48:46 No.56982766 Report

Quoted By: >>56982981

>>56982598
π

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:49:13 No.56982771 Report

Quoted By: >>56982782 >>56983556

Would staff at LGS question me for having printed/written rules and stats instead of a rulebook? :thinking:

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:49:14 No.56982772 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982755
>mfw I realized most of my friends now are people who play 40k

40k's community is great, outside the shitty outliers.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:49:22 No.56982774 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982740
>He plays an irrelevant army

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:50:16 No.56982782 Report

Quoted By: >>56982975

>>56982771
some might, but most won't care in my experience. It's the third party models they don't allow.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:50:41 No.56982786 Report

Quoted By: >>56982883

>>56982645

Metallics don't really work with the general Tau aesthetic, personally, they look like they're wearing plastic/carbon fibre. Same reason Stormtroopers would look weird in Star Wars if they were done in a gritty metallic scheme (hell, even Phasma looks weird and that's just one done out in bling at the head of the army anyway).

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:52:06 No.56982803 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982700
Np. Remember - this game is as expensive as you want it to be. You can download rules for free and all codices are on mega so if your friends want to give it a try before spending a lot of money then just download whatever you can.
Want to see if you even like the game rule-wise? Proxy your armies with cheap bases from aliexpress or make your own. I teached my GF how to play with coins used as 25mm bases.
Also don't worry about stuff like hobby knives, brushes, clippers, drills etc - you can buy them cheaply on aliexpress too. They are not high-quality but they are fine for newbies.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:55:03 No.56982833 Report

Quoted By: >>56982883

>>56982645
Slapping on metallics looks weird on them. Works for specific tasks. Like edges and rivet things

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:55:12 No.56982837 Report

Quoted By: >>56982850 >>56982863

I'm new to 40k so please go easy on me. I was wondering what master-crafted means for equipment? is it for both weapons and armor?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:55:43 No.56982847 Report

Quoted By: >>56982859 >>56982881 >>56982923

>>56982728
Oh wow I didn't even realize that they came in Metal on GW. Kinda strange considering all the Cadians and such are plastic. Cadia seems to be the strongest firepower and I guess Mordians are the best with morale?

Your models look really good, but for me I like the Steel Legion aesthetics. Also I think Cadians would be cheaper because I don't really want to get a ton of transports to get the benefit of using Steel Legion.

Are there any rules in GW shops as to how you paint your models? Sorry kinda a noob question.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:56:05 No.56982850 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982837
Used to be a special rule. Now it just means it is special so extra reroll or whatever

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:56:40 No.56982857 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982748
I wish I was more up on the rules, I would have told that smarmy cunt to get fucked

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:56:48 No.56982859 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982847
Cadian and Catachan lines are the only plastic ones.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:57:05 No.56982863 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982837
in previous editions, master-crafted weapons let you re-roll hits(or wounds, can't remember which)

Now, all special rules will be stated on the weapon's profile.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:57:35 No.56982866 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981841
The Inquisition knows not to fuck with First Founding chapters. The DA and their legion of successors would kick their teeth in

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:59:08 No.56982881 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982847
oh, I agree, the steel legion aesthetics are great.

but a lot(and I mean a LOT) of non-marine stuff is still in metal(or finecast, which are shitty resin poured into metal molds)

at least half the eldar, all guard regiments outside of cadia and catachan, and ALL OF THE SISTERS OF BATTLE except a limited release canonness and saint celestine are all shitty like that.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:59:09 No.56982883 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982786
>>56982833
>Metallics don't really work with the general Tau aesthetic, personally, they look like they're wearing plastic/carbon fibre
I thought about metallic scheme for a mining-planet sept with blue cloth and leadbelcher on armours and helmets

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 22:59:44 No.56982888 Report

Quoted By: >>56983016

>>56982725
hitting on 2+ rerolling 1s d6 damage
vs
hitting on 3+ rerolling 1s d6 (min 3) damage

the hammer has a large weakness and also costs more, the average damage for the sword is 3.5 and has more hits on average

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:02:16 No.56982923 Report

Quoted By: >>56983075

>>56982847
>Are there any rules in GW shops as to how you paint your models? Sorry kinda a noob question.

generally, the only rules for painting are for tournaments(or playing at warhammer world in britain) that require a minimum of 3 colours on your entire army. It's not uncommon to see people who just prime their models, or don't even do that. It's the mark of a faget,
but there you go.

As for warhammer world, well, that's the GW headquarters, and they require full detailed painting on your entire army, with base coats, washes, and edging.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:05:55 No.56982975 Report

Quoted By: >>56982996

>>56982782
>third party models
Maybe at a tournament or something, but on a regular FLGS gaming night, most wouldn't give a crap unless your opponent kicks up a fuss.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:06:29 No.56982981 Report

Quoted By: >>56983074

>>56982766

How does one model .14 of a Genestealer?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:07:32 No.56982996 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982975
ah true. I'm talking more at your average GW store.

My store is super lax, and the owner kicks ass, but store policy dictates models have to be 60% GW properties.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:08:03 No.56983012 Report

Quoted By: >>56983137

>>56982392
>>56981774
Alright, trying out Moloc versus some Chapter Masters. Starting off simple, versus some of the literally whos: Kayvaan Shrike. Moloc deals 4.86 wounds in melee alone, 5.67 if shooting, neatly one-rounding Shrike. In return, he takes 2.5 wounds, taking 3 turns to kill (and this is not counting that Moloc can hit back on death, so he can sit still eating boogers a turn and still BTFO Shrike).

Let's try with someone with a bit more cred: Gabriel Seth. It's worth noting that Seth and Moloc are one of the few characters in their tier that have D3 weapons, most are Dd3, so this gives them a big edge against other duelists.

Seth puts up a much better fight: 3.86 wounds per turn, taking 1.81 turns to kill. In turn, Moloc does him the same he did Shrike and drops him in one turn with a bit of shooting aid. Close, but no cigar. That Custodes-lite spear and shield is too OP.

Now, let's get to the big guys. Marneus Calgar, despite being more irrelevant than a Marine's ballsack after Guilliman came back, is one tough motherfucker, even able to survive a round of combat against the Swarmlord if the latter is chivalrous and doesn't use his psychic powers. So, let's see how this one goes. I've hopes for Papa Smurf.

And what do you know! Thanks to his Armour of Antilochus, Calgar only takes half to two thirds of Moloc's damage, suffering 3.78 wounds per turn and dying in 1.85. He hits back with 4 wounds even, killing in 1.75 for a very close victory. Mind you, Moloc can fight on death, so it's mutually assured destruction at best. Additionally, this is counting shooting, of which Calgar's gauntlets give a much better showing than his counterparts' piddly bolt pistols. Counting circumstances, this one's as close to dead even as they come.

I wanted to do Logan Grimnar too, but I gotta run. Bottom line, Moloc lives up to his reputation!

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:08:13 No.56983016 Report

Quoted By: >>56983042

>>56982888
But the hammer also has AP-4, and higher strength (even though the S only matters vs T6 models).
Plus, if you need to hit on two's (against chaff/1 wound models), you could use the fists instead.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:10:00 No.56983042 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983016
for strength you can just cast hammer hand, you are wounding everything on 2+ in the game

the missing AP isnt as much as a disadvantage as the -1 to hit

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:12:55 No.56983074 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982981
You did say an unreasonable number

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:12:57 No.56983075 Report

Quoted By: >>56983100

>>56982923
Thanks, however, let me be more specific in my question. I intend to properly paint my army before playing. Can I paint in a color scheme against the fluff following the 3 color minium with proper bases, washes, and edging and still be okay for a tournament? Or do I have to paint in fluff colors?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:13:00 No.56983076 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982762
And in Rulebook

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:13:30 No.56983080 Report

Quoted By:

Gaunts Ghosts Warmaster Epub when?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:14:10 No.56983087 Report

Quoted By: >>56983112

>>56982765
>fortifications
>good

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:15:19 No.56983100 Report

Quoted By: >>56983179

>>56983075
yourdudes. EVERYTHING in this game runs secondary to your dudes.

Want to run cadians, but would rather a black and silver scheme? yourdudes.

Want to run tempestus scions, but still want to stay with your colours? yourdudes.

want to run crusaders, but think you could kitbash your own models to make them look better than the metal model off the GW site? yourdudes.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:16:16 No.56983110 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982598
Think any arbitrarily high number and add 1, that's an unreasonable number of Ben Stillers

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:16:34 No.56983112 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983087
>he doesnt know that fortifications can hold objectives

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:18:12 No.56983132 Report

Quoted By: >>56983160

I tried another gamestore this weekend. I found some Spider Riders while there was a tournament going on in the background. Afterwards, I got to do some testing with the game I'm making.

At its base, it's Alternating Activation. Each unit does 2 actions per turn, activating multiple units in a row costs a slowly increasing amount of notCP.

In this picture, player A has two Cultists, player B has two Horrors.

Player A wishes for the Cultist on the left to attack the Horror on the left. Thus, a "1" die is placed on the unit. However, Player B doesn't want to sit and take it and decides to Interrupt. Thus, Player B places a "2" next to the Horror on the right.

However, Player A doesn't want for Player B to sit and take it. Since A already has one unit on the stack, A must spend a Command Point to have the Cultist on the right Interrupt the Horror on the right. Likewise, the Horror on the left (which although being targeted, is considered "target zero", and is thus still able to Interrupt) would have to spend a CP to Interrupt.

Once both players quit bidding, the Horror on the left (#4) would attempt to attack the Cultist on the right (#3), would remove the die and replace it with an action marker. If #3 survives, it would attempt to attack the Horror on the right (#2), discarding its die before replacing it with an action marker. #2 would attempt to attack #1 if it survived, and assuming #1 survived, it would attempt to attack #0.

In the end, since all the Interrupts are using up actions that would normally be used for Activations, the actual net time to play it isn't *that* much more than a normal IGOUGO, but there's less downtime between players getting to do stuff.

Incidentally, an Interrupt can be **any** single action you normally can do in an Activation. So if you were being shot at, you could Interrupt and drive a Rhino in front of the target unit, among other dirty tricks. :)

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:18:22 No.56983137 Report

Quoted By: >>56984550

>>56983012
Thanks anon.
Just a question though, did you consider his additional attack against characters? Seems like it could turn a close one around, if it wasn't included already.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:19:36 No.56983154 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982402
> that dick gun

quality/10

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:20:16 No.56983160 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983132
Nice blog
Where can i subscribe?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:21:20 No.56983173 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981774
He's pretty much why I'm building an army that and fuck ultramarines

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:21:24 No.56983175 Report

Quoted By: >>56983227 >>56983235

>>56981372
This came in 3rd place at a major tournament recently.

Draigo 240
(gate of infinity, sanctuary)
Brother Captain w/nemesis stave + Relic storm bolter (warlord - first to the fray) 150
(gate of infinity, sanctuary)
3x10 strikes w/8 falchions+ storm bolter, 2 psilencers 214 214 214
(hammerhand, hammerhand, gate of infinity, gate of infinity)
1x10 interceptors w/10 falchions 250
(gate of infinity)
3x5 Purgations w/1 falchion+ storm bolter, 4 psilencers 113 113 113
(gate of infinity, astral aim, astral aim)

Vanguard Detachment
Company commander
5 x 1 Acolytes W/boltguns
Culexus Assassin
2x5 Purgations w/1 falchion+ storm bolter, 4 psilencers

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:21:30 No.56983179 Report

Quoted By: >>56983214

>>56983100
Thanks, cheers

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:21:37 No.56983182 Report

Quoted By: >>56983584

>>56981476
Gabriel Angelos Vs. Dragon

Then both of them Vs Typhus, not at the same time though threesomes are gay.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:23:23 No.56983201 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981804
This all day. Caacfags are the cancer born from parents who insist their shitty kids get a participation trophy for being shit instead of cultivating people who know what they're good at and want to try their best

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:24:39 No.56983214 Report

Quoted By: >>56983224 >>56983315

>>56983179
for the record, this (was) my archon, whom I'm now working on rebuilding and repainting.

The default drukhari archon model is distinctly male and ugly as sin, so I took pieces from the archon, sigmar's dark elf sorceress, scourges, and kabalite warriors.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:25:41 No.56983224 Report

Quoted By: >>56983315

>>56983214
and used my own personal custom colour scheme.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:26:03 No.56983227 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983175
Thanks man, gives me some hope.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:26:21 No.56983230 Report

Quoted By: >>56984286

>>56982458
Always start with your Captain/Chapter Master and two squads of Tactical marines. Then maybe grab a squad of five Terminators, and a Dreadnought. I've found that to be a pretty reliable core for an SM army. Also, a Rhino or Razorback is needed for your squishy Tacticals.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:26:54 No.56983235 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983175
Psilencer spam is pretty good

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:26:58 No.56983236 Report

Quoted By: >>56983246 >>56983555

>>56982402
My painted Vostroyans

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:27:57 No.56983246 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983236
unf.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:29:28 No.56983266 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982177
Obvious bait, but I can't resist
>Best tech
Who even are the Necrons?
>Ideology
Literally so shit their leaders have to brainwash their citizens
>Vets
Other races have vets with literally hundreds, sometimes thousands of years of experience
>Refuse melee
So they're pussies then?
>Star on the rise
Such a small and insignificant non-threat the major factions just ignore them, still can't conquer a respectable empire

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:33:07 No.56983315 Report

Quoted By: >>56983344 >>56983345 >>56983348 >>56983431

>>56983214
>>56983224
the default archon

>>56982177
>best tech
not even the top 3.
necrons>GAoT humans>Drukhari
>Rational and selfless ideology willingly adhered to be everyone
except farsight and anyone not being brainwashed by ethereals
>Veterans are more experienced and competent than anyone else's
the only veterans the tau have more experience than are the guard and sisters of battle.
>Rational tactics, never charge into melee like retards, instantly grasp the primitive tactics of everyone else
they crumple when they are forced into martial combat. even the imperial GUARD are able to fight back properly.
>Star is on the rise, they will inevitably conquer the Imperium & Chaos alongside all other xenos
can't even hold a sector.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:35:10 No.56983344 Report

Quoted By: >>56983356 >>56983372 >>56983431

>>56983315
Were GAoT humans more high tech than the Eldar Empire?
I'm pretty sure Eldar Empire were at least equivtech to Necrons

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:35:16 No.56983345 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983315
>sisters of battle

But SoB can live centuries if not killed in battle.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:35:41 No.56983348 Report

Quoted By: >>56983431

>>56983315
>Drukhari
anon

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:36:33 No.56983356 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983344
>Were GAoT humans more high tech than the Eldar Empire?
yes. Drukhari tech outstrips eldar empire tech, and they still don't hold a candle to GAoT shit.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:36:43 No.56983358 Report

Quoted By: >>56983395 >>56983403

>"Da look I've became an Angel, Da"

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:37:28 No.56983372 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983344
Necron tech wizardry leaves even Eldar baffled. On the other hand, they don't get any psykers.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:37:38 No.56983377 Report

Quoted By: >>56983437

>>56982679
>steel legion out of stock

Sorry anons, that may have been me...

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:38:54 No.56983395 Report

Quoted By: >>56983436

>>56983358
Is this a picture for grots anon?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:39:01 No.56983397 Report

Quoted By: >>56983420

>GW nerfed GK so hard because there is no way to mix primaris with them

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:39:33 No.56983403 Report

Quoted By: >>56983436

>>56983358
That an image for ants? Because that's how you get ants literary ants

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:40:37 No.56983420 Report

Quoted By: >>56983429

>>56983397
it is so custodes have their own niche when they get their codex

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:41:18 No.56983429 Report

Quoted By: >>56983440

>>56983420
Custodes > Grey Knights

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:41:27 No.56983431 Report

Quoted By: >>56983457 >>56983496

>>56983315
>>56983348
>>56983344
I should clarify:

necrons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GAoT humans>>>>>>>Drukhari>Eldar empire>>>>>>CWE>tau>admech

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:41:57 No.56983436 Report

Quoted By: >>56983699 >>56984425

>>56983403
>>56983395
>"Dddddd-da! I'll be Angel are you proud of me da?!"

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:41:59 No.56983437 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983377
I've been checking for months and haven't seen shit available in the states

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:42:20 No.56983440 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983429
That is what I meant. Lets Custodes really stand out as the elitest of the elites if similar armies suck

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:43:01 No.56983450 Report

Quoted By: >>56983462 >>56983587 >>56983595

How good is Kroieg compared to Cadians or other 8th edition strong guard?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:43:31 No.56983456 Report

Quoted By: >>56983479 >>56983485 >>56983490 >>56983562 >>56983842 >>56983934

So, my local GW manager just sent me this photo as his stand in Banesword for his Sentinel Army. (3 tank commanders and 21 Sentinels)

I present to you...

THE SUPER SENTINEL

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:43:33 No.56983457 Report

Quoted By: >>56983469

>>56983431
Eldar Empire got better technology than DE because they got all toys hat DE have and shittones of psychic stuff that DE can't use.
And I doubt that Eldar Empire was worse than DAOT Humanity.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:44:03 No.56983462 Report

Quoted By: >>56983587

>>56983450
Krieg*

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:44:38 No.56983469 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983457
According to the 7e codex, DE adapted the eldar empire shit once they lost their psychic connection and their current shit outstrips what they lost.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:45:11 No.56983479 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983456
A Weapon to Surpass Metal Gear!

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:45:24 No.56983485 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983456
looks dumb as fuck and way too small

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:45:45 No.56983490 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983456

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:46:11 No.56983496 Report

Quoted By: >>56983507

>>56983431
>Drukhari
ANON

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:47:06 No.56983507 Report

Quoted By: >>56983560

>>56983496
It's a more fitting name than saying DARK eldar all the goddamn time.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:51:22 No.56983555 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983236

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:51:23 No.56983556 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982771
It's generally better to just have a file on your phone/tablet if you can

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:51:42 No.56983560 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983507
shut your FUCKING MOUTH

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:51:49 No.56983562 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983456
are his tank commanders in walking tanks?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:53:50 No.56983584 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983182
Dragon?

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:54:00 No.56983587 Report

Quoted By: >>56983777

>>56983450
>>56983462
Worse. But Guard are still inherently pretty good.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:54:07 No.56983589 Report

Quoted By:

>>56981174
codex upload when?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:54:19 No.56983590 Report

Quoted By: >>56983797

Is it possible to build a viable pure-primaris 1000pts army with boxed deals like Dark Imperium and easy to build kits? I thought about DI primaris half and an easy to build Redemptor Dreadnought to round out the list to 1000pts

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:54:36 No.56983595 Report

Quoted By: >>56983777

>>56983450
objectively worse. krieg are, afaik, the worst guard regiment in 8e.

Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2017 23:58:52 No.56983652 Report

Quoted By: >>56984097

>>56981851
>The 5 man w/ sonic and blastmaster is the obvious answer.

You probably want 10 man squads. Its more efficient to burn command points on bigger squads for things like Veterans of the Long War or Endless Cacophony.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:02:02 No.56983699 Report

Quoted By: >>56984461

>>56983436

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:04:01 No.56983721 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982738
This happens like every time I play. I'm not cheating but my opponent always gets super butthurt over something I do. We argue, then we argue about wording, then he drags someone else in, then like 3 people look up rules at a time, I make my case as best I can but my opponent gets so upset I just say fuck it and play it his way because he refuses to continue playing. Then we find out like 30 minutes later that I was correct and it's infuriating. I'm starting to get sick of most people at the store for this reason. They cannot fucking read or handle a rule they don't like.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:07:14 No.56983774 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982402
I will post it eventually, once I finish up painting some things. I just got more Ogryn so I can finally make and paint my penal Orgryn to match my penal Infantry squads, penal Commander and penal Ogryn Bodyguard.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:07:19 No.56983777 Report

Quoted By: >>56983877 >>56983939

>>56983587
>>56983595
Alright so the cooler the model, the worse it is. Alright, Cadians it is.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:07:19 No.56983778 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982298

pretty damn gud seeing as its based on the lucius boi, all the edges work well with 3d printin

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:08:44 No.56983797 Report

Quoted By: >>56983942

>>56983590
That works, the DI set of primaris is pretty good. if you get 2 halves its even better

Gungy Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:10:06 No.56983816 Report

Quoted By: >>56983836 >>56983902

By the 9th, maybe 10th editions. all models not primaris will not be allowed officially. I'll put money on it because they're money grubbing fucks, binning the 7th when some books were not even 6 months old is BS.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:11:45 No.56983836 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983816

do you just sit here all day talkin shit

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:12:19 No.56983842 Report

Quoted By: >>56983921

>>56983456
Love it! Super cool idea, but the size comparison is horrendous. It's just advantageous to him in every way with how it is now. I would measure the shape and height of the Banesword and have like a little rectangle outline to see where it can fit and for how people can see it.

It would be better off as a Knight.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:14:53 No.56983877 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983777
Just get creative with the kitbashing. Between the metal models on Ebay, the Forgeworld stuff, and the 5 cadian kits you should be able to make some pretty good looking dudes.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:16:00 No.56983894 Report

Quoted By: >>56983910

Painting a new primaris space marine army, I am thinking of a fortification/defensive based Chapter. Which chapter should they be descended from fluff-wise?

Bonus question, which would be the best chapter crunch-wise to pull it off in any sort of degree?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:16:16 No.56983902 Report

Quoted By: >>56983976

>>56983816
I still see people bringing Rogue Trader Rhinos to the game store. What makes you think they'll boot the squat marine's models?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:16:51 No.56983910 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983894
Imperial Fists

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:17:09 No.56983912 Report

Quoted By: >>56984020

just watched event horizon, and it got me thinking.
is it basicly the first flight in/through the warp for humankind?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:17:36 No.56983920 Report

Quoted By: >>56983960 >>56984632

Are GW memeing us with this?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:17:42 No.56983921 Report

Quoted By: >>56983936

>>56983842
With the terrain in our local GW, i can assure you, that unless the firing unit is behind a wall without windows, then it is gonna be seen.

Additionally he makes custom datasheets wiht a loyalty point system, such as the mighty Brad Angel, a model thats cost is literally >20 PL, that is the cost, >20PL, not 21, just more than 20

Dude only suffers one damage everytime he fails a save.
Assault 10 S6 -2 2D Boltgun
The Occasional Grenade - Grenade 3 12" S10 AP-4 5d

Dude has 9 wounds with a 3++ and a 2++
Could probably 1v1 guilliman EZ

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:18:38 No.56983934 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983456
This is why I was REALLY hoping the new Codex would give us Sentinel Commanders like the Cadian Supplement.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:18:44 No.56983936 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983921
not a 2++, he has a 2+ armour

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:18:55 No.56983939 Report

Quoted By: >>56983984 >>56983994

>>56983777
>cadians
>uncool

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:19:01 No.56983942 Report

Quoted By:

>>56983797
>if you get 2 halves its even better
What is the strong point of Primarines? I was away for a long while and I remember that people tend to say primarines are not doing well on their own

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:19:04 No.56983944 Report

Quoted By:

>>56982392
Never skip leg day

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:19:38 No.56983951 Report

Quoted By: >>56983972

Being a worst version of an OP army still makes you a strong force. Also, other IG armies don't have that level of class, and are shit at close range. Krieg isn't a pure downgrade : while its shooting is worse, it's stronger in melee.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:20:14 No.56983958 Report

Quoted By:

I've finished off my wierd Rataphrons with some Cognis Flamers in spinal and fist mounts, as well as giving the previously derpy-looking one a bulbous fleshy hood to make his eye more flush with his face. Tomorrow they get sprayed and based.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:20:33 No.56983960 Report

Quoted By: >>56985049

>>56983920
Why not play IG army with AoS aetherpunk dwarves?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:21:26 No.56983972 Report

Quoted By: >>56984015

>>56983951
My Kriegers could be the worst offshoot of the worst codex, I'd still run them as themselves.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:21:38 No.56983976 Report

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>>56983902 Money, they never listened to people about what was wrong with the 7th, if they had the chaos codex which was for the 7th wouldn't of been altered and released as part of the 8th. they saw the opportunity to smash everybody for another pile of books. And now with the squat marines been pushed out, with primaris as the new and improved..... marketing talk for replace them now before they are banned. as soon as you see primaris versions of the masters etc you know it's coming.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:22:27 No.56983984 Report

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>>56983939
>Ollanius Pius
>guardsman

How times change

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:23:16 No.56983990 Report

Quoted By: >>56984033 >>56984050 >>56984057 >>56984063 >>56984099 >>56984108 >>56984130 >>56984441

okay so ive been digging around for a place to share this story with for months because fuck i have to tell somebody, and i think this is the right place

>be sex shop cashier, on normal days it's really just retail work
>this was not a normal day
>this guy walks in and he's kinda tall, huge mangy beard. not that bad on his own
>carrying a pack of nails, a shelf from Ikea, and a bucket of weird chemicals
>immediately walks up to me and asks "What's the most powerful fucking machine you have, I need two"
>my mind is just 'what the fuck' at this point
>I do not want to engage at all but i'm at work so I have to ask why
>he explains he's making toy soldiers. i slowly realize that he's actually serious
>drops his nails to show me pictures of his toy soldiers, looks kind of like some of the ones in this website
>walk him over to the sybians, he spends like $2000
>"do you want a bag for those?"
>"no thanks i need to catch the bus in 10 minutes"
>spills a bunch of nails and as he picks them up i realize he's going to just have his rape rack supplies in his arms on the bus

so that was the first time i met one of you people are you all this insane?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:23:45 No.56983994 Report

Quoted By: >>56986363

>>56983939
but those dudes are from Necromunda

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:25:14 No.56984015 Report

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>>56983972
That's the spirit. I'm starting a Krieg army myself, recently bought pic related.
Maybe FW will smile on us one day, and update its Index rules. Their book has been patched to death, and is almost worthless after two FAQs and Chapter Approved.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:25:25 No.56984020 Report

Quoted By: >>56984036

>>56983912
That's a common fan theory but iirc it wasn't intended.

Is still cool to think about.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:26:14 No.56984033 Report

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>>56983990

It varies in degrees.
I use metal miniatures.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:26:29 No.56984036 Report

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>>56984020
yeh, i thought that it wasnt intended, but its just so fitting

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:26:41 No.56984042 Report

Quoted By: >>56984609

So how do assassins work in 8th? Do I place one of them just an regular elite in place of another unit, or do I need to ally them with another force like the Imperial Guard?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:27:13 No.56984050 Report

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>>56983990
Old silly story about resin recasts is old. But silly.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:27:55 No.56984057 Report

Quoted By: >>56984082 >>56984099

>>56983990
im confused, whats the use of the sybian for modelwork?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:28:43 No.56984063 Report

Quoted By: >>56984099

>>56983990
Even as bait this gets a "wat?"

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:30:02 No.56984082 Report

Quoted By: >>56984146

>>56984057
As a shaker to get bubbles out of model casts.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:31:17 No.56984097 Report

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>>56983652
I don't have enough models for 6 10 man squads.

Plus I find more success spamming stratagem on onbliterators, terminators, etc

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:31:21 No.56984099 Report

Quoted By: >>56984146

>>56984057
>>56983990
>>56984063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWpunxeTbY

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:32:39 No.56984108 Report

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>>56983990
Nice.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:33:40 No.56984130 Report

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>>56983990
Sounds like a total fucking bro

I'd play 40k in his rape dungeon desu

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:34:34 No.56984146 Report

Quoted By: >>56984197

>>56984082
>>56984099
ffs,
lucky me i dont cast anything

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:35:33 No.56984162 Report

Quoted By: >>56984375 >>56984850

>>56982402
It's not much but it's still an army nevertheless

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:38:35 No.56984197 Report

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>>56984146
I'm not really into casting but I had a mate who used to cast some pretty good quality Mordheim terrain he was an actual art student though. His casting table just used a power drill to shake out bubbles though not twin linked fuckbots

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:40:14 No.56984218 Report

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Anyone got an epub or pdf of Gaunts Ghosts Warmaster? I'm asking for a friend

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:40:28 No.56984220 Report

Quoted By: >>56984274

Why can't I buy this style of Ethereal by itself

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:41:26 No.56984233 Report

Quoted By: >>56984244 >>56984294 >>56984504 >>56984519

What's the most gasoline chugging diesel huffing mad max esque army in this fucking game? I'm new to this shit.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:41:29 No.56984235 Report

Quoted By: >>56984261 >>56984349 >>56984549

Do GW want to kill off GK and 1KS with the beta smite changes?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:41:53 No.56984244 Report

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>>56984233
Orks. Speed Freaks in particular.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:43:35 No.56984261 Report

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>>56984235
Yeah, pretty much. Everyone I've talked to has agreed those two should ignore it, maybe even ignore psychic focus.

lol GW really must be on a hateboner for elite marine armies

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:44:41 No.56984274 Report

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>>56984220
It's called Ebay, pinhead

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:44:53 No.56984279 Report

Quoted By: >>56984297

>>56981165
I never field an unpainted or unfinished unit. EVER.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:45:00 No.56984283 Report

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>>56981464
>... whereas for the DA their traitorous brethren are still around and just keep popping up because rather than being scoured like the other legions the DA were robbed of the ability to redeem their chapter when the Dark gods threw the fallen into the warp.

Thank you for helping me reconcile the weirdness of explaining why the Dark Angels still have issue with the traitors of their chapter considering other legions had members fall as well. I could never figure out exactly how to explain it when asked, and these are the words I was looking for. Pic related.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:45:03 No.56984286 Report

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>>56983230
Fuck tactical just get intercessors. Regular bolt guns don’t do shit

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:45:50 No.56984294 Report

Quoted By: >>56984322

>>56984233
Orks

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:46:02 No.56984297 Report

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>>56984279

Lucky you. I've swamped myself with models and as such, my painting queue is so backlogged I won't be able to play for years if I don't field unpainted stuff.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:47:48 No.56984322 Report

Quoted By: >>56984353

>>56984294
Metal as fuck. I'm looking at the range and I can see a nice battle force box called the kult of speed. How are bikers in this edition?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:48:14 No.56984328 Report

Quoted By: >>56984354 >>56984357 >>56984365 >>56984376 >>56984415 >>56984433 >>56984458

>>56981133
The sisters of battle havent had an update in years. they are one of the coolest factions in the lore and have a potential to be a very strong rush army and with a few tweaks could be very competitive. what are some ideas and tweaks that could make them into a force to be reckoned with and make them a serious army again?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:49:25 No.56984349 Report

Quoted By: >>56984391

>>56984235
I don't think they want to kill them off as factions so much as kill smite spam off as a tactic. Which is fine by me GKs aren't meant to be field as armies anyway so diminishing return seems to be a good way of encouraging that. Sucks for the 1k sons though, hopefully they'll get some kind of buff to compensate for it

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:49:44 No.56984353 Report

Quoted By: >>56984377

>>56984322
Bad.
Unfortunately, this is not a great edition for bikers right now. when the codex gets released, it might get better. Might.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:49:48 No.56984354 Report

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>>56984328
SoB are already top tier, you idiot.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:50:13 No.56984357 Report

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>>56984328
Make flamers good

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:50:45 No.56984365 Report

Quoted By: >>56987487

>>56984328
They'd need a few new units. Also, the Ministorum should be updated alongside with them. I'd like to see plastic Penitent Engines and Crusaders one day.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:51:29 No.56984375 Report

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>>56984162
>/yourdudes/ing you HQs rather than using the named characters

Good on you, Anon.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:51:31 No.56984376 Report

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>>56984328
they're already pretty powerful but they need a refreshed range of minis and a little bit of time in the spotlight

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:51:37 No.56984377 Report

Quoted By: >>56984398 >>56984411

>>56984353
Fuck. Are battle wagons any good? And are trukks loaded up with boyz any good?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:51:37 No.56984378 Report

Quoted By: >>56984390

Is there a DA codex upload yet? I haven't been able to go by GW yet, and wont be for a while

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:52:38 No.56984390 Report

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>>56984378
wait a week

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:52:38 No.56984391 Report

Quoted By: >>56984407 >>56984443 >>56984445

>>56984349
>I don't like how an army is so let's nerf it to below ally-tier
You know what asshole, it's people like you that keep ruining the fun and balance of this game. Now I'll take me and my 4K of grey knights and cry in the corner

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:52:55 No.56984398 Report

Quoted By: >>56984411

>>56984377
Orks in general are not very good right now. If you play them it'll have to be because you love their aesthetic

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:53:58 No.56984407 Report

Quoted By: >>56984437 >>56984490 >>56984499

>>56984391
Smite spam needed to be nerfed it was obnoxious as fuck. Especially if you play an army without any psykers and so can't deny the witch.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:54:09 No.56984411 Report

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>>56984377
Green tide is good, since orkz have Mob rule. Rolling up slugga boyz into near melee is good, with Battlewagons being the better option due to being capable of carrying 20 boyz each.
But as >>56984398 said, orks aren't great right now, but they're not the worst either.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:54:28 No.56984415 Report

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>>56984328
would giving them bikes be a good idea? put flamers on the bikes and it can be disgusting

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:55:06 No.56984425 Report

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>>56983436
Aw, poor dude

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:55:32 No.56984433 Report

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>>56984328
i just dont want to see them get squated because they are so cool

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:55:55 No.56984437 Report

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>>56984407
As well as low model count armies, not everyone wants to jam Guard into their lists

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:56:12 No.56984441 Report

Quoted By: >>56984483 >>56984514 >>56984546 >>56984613

>>56983990
40k boys are a bunch of freaks.

>Meet guy at the shop who has a Slaanesh army and a Dark Eldar army
>Figure he's a degenerate too, so I start talking to him
>Months go by and we've flirted here and there
>Tell him I'm a girl(male)
>He tells me that he's really into that
>He invites me over one weekend for a game of 40k
>Obviously we start making out and fondling each other instead of playing
>He busts out this weird thing he made out of a shower wheelchair and a fuck machine
>Asks if I want to test it out
>I was very dick starved at the time and his earlier moves already had me under his spell, so I agreed
>He ties me to the chair, lubes everything up and let's it run
>Feels amazing, but then it hits me what exactly is happening and I start to feel weird
>Before I can say much more he starts blowing me until completion
>He then finishes himself off shortly after while I just sit there taking it
>He stops the machine, unties me and I get changed
>We go to his basement where his gaming table is and play a 2k game
>I almost table him because he's awful
>Whines the whole time about my army composition and argues rules with me about damn near everything because he can't fucking read
>I think to myself, thank god we played second, this would have been a complete turn off

So long story short, yes we're all terrible.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:56:21 No.56984443 Report

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>>56984391
>4K of grey knights and cry in the corner
Well, at least you can fit them all in a tiny shoe box.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:56:26 No.56984445 Report

Quoted By: >>56984618

>>56984391
I love GKs but they shouldn't be any army, same with Deathwatch, same with Harlequins, same with Custards, same with Fallen etc

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:57:22 No.56984458 Report

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>>56984328
>they are one of the coolest factions in the lore

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:57:28 No.56984461 Report

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>>56983699
Oh, it's real. That's honestly kinda heartwrenching.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:59:34 No.56984483 Report

Quoted By: >>56984527

>>56984441

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 00:59:53 No.56984490 Report

Quoted By: >>56984530 >>56984693

>>56984407
Smite may have needed a nerf, but cutting off the balls of what's left of GK is just cruel. What they should be doing is fixing rules and cost of broken units, not blanket nerfing all psykers.

And I'm more annoyed at the 'it's mostly an ally in fluff, so let's make it unplayable as an army lmao' attitude that has kept deathwatch, harlequins, and GK stuck in the dirt. I don't get upset when people play a list with character combos or force orgs. that aren't 100% Normal fluff, so you shouldn't do an even worse version of that either

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:00:38 No.56984499 Report

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>>56984407
>smite needed a nerf so lets kill off 2 factions to deal with it

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:00:49 No.56984504 Report

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>>56984233
Ork fighta bomma pilots literally chug gasoline when thirsty on a flight

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:01:29 No.56984508 Report

Quoted By: >>56984520 >>56984566 >>56984568 >>56984598

can someone tell me the purpose of this character?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:02:02 No.56984514 Report

Quoted By: >>56984619 >>56984856

>>56984441
I want to do this with my bf, minus the bj part since he'd be in chastity before he tables me with his BA army and I whine the entire time.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:02:21 No.56984519 Report

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>>56984233
Orks, duh.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:02:23 No.56984520 Report

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>>56984508
forgettable and discount Curze

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:02:39 No.56984527 Report

Quoted By: >>56985010

>>56984483
Source?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:02:47 No.56984530 Report

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>>56984490
They didn't nerf Weird boyz. In fact, it was practically a buff.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:03:35 No.56984546 Report

Quoted By: >>56984619

>>56984441
this is the funniest thing I've read in ages

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:04:02 No.56984549 Report

Quoted By: >>56984597

>>56984235
I really hope that the fact they didn't fast track the Thousand Sons codex is because they realize that the army doesn't have enough to stand on its own regardless of the change to smite or not. They really need to add another unit or 2 and a vehicle to make Thousand Sons actually feel like something that could stand on their own.

That doesn't mean they new models but just rejiggering of current ones. Though new models would certainly help, especially with a vehicle.

Take Exalted Sorcerers for example. They should just remove aspiring sorcerers from the Rubric units and make Rubric and Scarabs lead by Exalted Sorcerers (level 2, upgradeable to 3, 2 wounds each).

They could then replace the exalted HQ unit into a sorcerer coven type deal kind of like how Warlocks work. 0-X models per unit, can be broken off to join other units. For each unit of 3 or more Sorcerers in the coven they gain access to 2 unique spells. One is a lower strength ordnance blast not needing LOS. The other is a high strength beam lascannon.

Adding a rifle sprue to the Tzaangor shamans to give Thousand Sons snipers would work.

Adding a flying mini-silver tower type vehicle that is effectively a flying razorback would also work. Able to fly, transport min rubric squads, and have a lascannon.

But the army needs something or why bother even making it a stand alone box? May as well just add Scarab Occult to the CSM book and call it a day.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:04:07 No.56984550 Report

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>>56983137
Yup, I try to consider all those factors when making calcs. Some slip through every once in a while, though.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:05:07 No.56984566 Report

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>>56984508
Johnson's bumboy

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:05:19 No.56984568 Report

Quoted By: >>56984651

>>56984508
DEPPPPREESSSSIIIIOOOONNNNNN

And a funny shoutout.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:07:45 No.56984597 Report

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>>56984549
youve got magnus, stop bitching

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:07:47 No.56984598 Report

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>>56984508

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:08:34 No.56984609 Report

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>>56984042
You can take them as an elite choice in any imperial detachment. They'll disable any faction traits in that detachment unless they go in a detachment that doesn't have any.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:08:50 No.56984613 Report

Quoted By: >>56984685 >>56984753

>>56984441
I'm not sure if its a guy/girl there.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:09:15 No.56984618 Report

Quoted By: >>56984693

>>56984445
Well fuck you man, GK are an army. It's really just a dick move to say "hey, that editions old thing of yours should just be an ally!... because the stories of them usually have small armies!" and give no consideration to the hundreds of dollars, hours, and everything else i and others have put into them.

It's not like GK doesn't deploy en masse too, it's just rarer than some other armies. As do DW, but noooooo if it's not 100% standard ultramarines v chaos, then it's not fluffy and not allowed. Do you think certain armies shouldn't be allowed to fight cause it's not "fluffy?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:09:17 No.56984619 Report

Quoted By: >>56984679

>>56984514
You should, it's a lot of fun. I would prefer it your way too, but guys who like people like me like it out and about. I would also prefer to do it with someone I love. As for avoiding being tabled by BA, look into screening more. Pushes back the deepstrikes and if you layer it nicely even with their jetpacks they can't just hop the screen as easily.
>>56984546
I'm glad.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:10:33 No.56984632 Report

Quoted By: >>56984825

>>56983920

ADB confirmed that squats are demiurg on plebbit the other day. squats be tau auxilliaries

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:10:55 No.56984638 Report

Quoted By: >>56984659 >>56984664

I wanna start playing, and I want Sisters of Battle

How long should I wait before even thinking of getting into it?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:11:57 No.56984651 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984568
Fuck is this?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:12:17 No.56984659 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984638
As long as it takes to get new models.

So basically just start a different army

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:12:36 No.56984664 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984638
A month after all the codexes release.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:13:47 No.56984679 Report

Quoted By: >>56984753

>>56984619
Being with someone you love makes anything you do with them an incredible experience desu, I recommend finding someone you can connect with without any hint of sexual stuff and then get into the sexual side of things with them, being able to have someone you care about and have feelings for rather than just lust is 10/10.

Also I'm not really sure what I'll be able to do, I run a 1KS army without named characters, my goal will be not getting tabled by turn 4.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:14:11 No.56984685 Report

Quoted By: >>56984753 >>56984761

>>56984613
Two guys, although one fell into the Nyannichuan

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:14:24 No.56984693 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984490
>>56984618
Meh it appears we have different values. But you're the one who decided you wanted an army made entirely of of SWAT teams

That said I'd be-perfectly happy if GKs got additional buffs against Daemons. Once upon a time force weapons automatically wounded daemons and ignored their aura save. Having GKs ignore daemonic saves and auto pass moral would be neat

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:18:23 No.56984753 Report

Quoted By: >>56984761 >>56984865

>>56984613
If you want to be accurate a male and a male presenting as female
>>56984685
I like this version better.
>>56984679
That sounds really nice. I hope to have that someday. Also, I saw a batrep with a guy who ran a bunch of Tzangors/Kairic Acolyte things. They seemed pretty good in melee. There are also Cultists that are good screens. I heard not running named characters with them is rough, so godspeed.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:19:19 No.56984761 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984685
>>56984753
Makes more sense.

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:22:43 No.56984803 Report

Quoted By: >>56984809 >>56984864

What is a good highlight color for Abaddon Black? Also what about a good highlight color for Troll Slayer Orange?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:23:16 No.56984809 Report

Quoted By:

>>56984803
Eshin Grey

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:24:15 No.56984825 Report

Quoted By: >>56984872 >>56985270

>>56984632

ABCDxyz can choke on his fanfiction bald ass beanie as a toupee wearing cunt

A really peaceful anon Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:26:07 No.56984850 Report

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>>56984162
The Pagan Space marines i always enjoy these figures

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:26:20 No.56984856 Report

Quoted By: >>56984882

>>56984514
>Mfw me and my boyfriend are about to do a IF on IW slam fest before the winner slams the loser

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:27:14 No.56984863 Report

Quoted By: >>56985163

Now that 8e lets me pick who dies in a squad, is it a good idea to roll a 10 man termie squad with the assault and plasma cannon on the same guys that have the cyclones?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:27:20 No.56984864 Report

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>>56984803
eshin gray, dark reaper, thunderhawk blue, dawnstone, etherium blue

They all give different finishes depending on what sort of black you want.

as for troll slayer orange....no idea, maybe small amounts of yriel yellow?

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 01:27:22 No.56984865 Report

Quoted By: >>56984914

>>56984753
I'm using 20 tzaangors in my list right now as pure melee units, there's an expensive unit of rubric marines which I should really drop for more cost effective units but I like the idea of them in my head and what I want to do with them. Me not running or Magnus is a big disadvantage but I don't really like Magnus and at some point I'll add Ahriman who is pretty much a straight upgrade on an ExSorc but I want to use the Burning of Prospero Ahriman and I don't want to get the box yet.

Also don't give your body up easily,
don't get sucked in by guys who are horny and want to fuck, search for someone you'll have a proper connection with, just engaging with people in similar hobbies to you and not

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